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Should I Bother Trying HC for Repair?

Ok So I sent my HC H2 off under warranty to HC as I had lots of white marks on the screen display when surfing the net. They didn't repair it and said it would cost £198 to fix even though apart from seeing the spots mainly only a white back ground the phone was actaully in perfect working order and it cost me £20 to get it back. Now the ouchscreen has gone just suddenly and am debating on sending it back again. Now the postive thoughts from me is that if it is under warranty then they surely have to fix me phone for free. But my negative thoughts are they will just try to charge me for the repair or charge me £20 just to get my phone back. What would you do?
I get get the unit to turn on I can take calls using the buttons on the bottom but cannot use the touchscreen so can#t unlock it or do anything else with it. The phone is perfect never been near water and never been dropped.

Did you forget to remove hspl and return it to stock before you sent it to them? That voids warranty and makes the repair chargeable.

Yes sorry forgot to mention that I had indeed removed it and put the stock raido rom and removed HSPL. I assumed that the white marks were deemed as cosmetic but i will never know as I didn't get a report just an email with a link saying pay £198 for a repair or £20 to have it sent back unrepaired. I think if they don't fix it this time under warranty I will take them to the small claims court if needed.

hmm, could be water marks? is the water damage indicator red or white? if its even slightly pink, they wont cover it. Best of luck arguing your case.

water damage indicator red or white? It's never been near water opened the back can see a white circle looking sticker near top left if thats it?

There are 2 water markers i understand, and regardless of how close the phone may have been, it they says its water damage there is no movement from HTC on this
Sadly your best bet would have been to get full details of the issue before it was sent back. I suspect that it wil;l cost you the £200 to get it repaired.
You could replace it yourself for much less - if you have the skills as it not easy to do imho, or try the repair company's that advertise in the Sunday papers.
If it was mine, I'd have paid the first time

If you are good at following instructions, then you could probably replace the touchscreen and get it working. There's several disassembly videos on YouTube. Beware, the HD2 is a beast to take apart. There's several fragile ribbon cables that are extremely easy to tear, and many XDA users have made their phones worst off trying this. I mean, you could almost get a good condition HD2 for the 200 pounds HTC is trying to charge you.

Well it's good news, After 10 days of not hearing anything had a call to sall repair is being done under warranty and as a good will gesture of the delay they are going to email a link for all the accessories available for the phone that they sell and I can have anything up to the value of £50! I am well happy and this has restored my faith in HTC

Thats good news :0
The delays in UK HTC repairs have been up to 6 weeks and have been reported by the bbc

What? Water damaged surround!?

Hello all,
Today has been quite a frustrating day. I got my surround back in november from BestBuy. Since then, i have had constant problems with the software, but nothing that rebooting it could not fix.
Then, in May, for the first time it got stuck on the HTC welcome screen. I took it in BestBuy, they did a restore to it. It took a while... but the phone worked.
Last night, it happened again. This time, to save time, I took it into the nearest AT&T store. There, they opened it up, took one look at it. Told me it was water damaged (WHAT!??) and that they could not do anything and I had to buy a new one for the cosmic price of over $400. No way in hell. I have never done anything to it. It was explained to me that that could happen even if I put it in my pocket and I have been sweating. Well, it was the indicator by the charger.
Quite discouraged, I got home and of course, on the internet. I found that the water damage indicators that actually they take more into account are the ones on the battery and another one right behind it, on the phone. I took it apart, and those were white.
SO, I went to BestBuy for second opinion. THERE, they tell me, no, it is not water damaged and you are under manufacturer warranty... Take it back to the store and they should replace it.
I go back to the store. This time, they agreed with the BestBuy people, after I had explained what they told me there (the people at AT&T remembered me). So, I was sent to an AT&T Device Repair place thing, to get a replacement.
The sweet young lady with mile long painted nails... opened the phone. Took one look at it and said water damaged. You are not covered under warranty. She was pretty much talking down to me.
SO, of course I got furious. She took the battery out and told me the same thing. The red little sticker by the charging spot says moisture got inside. After I asked her why the ones further inside the phone were white, she told me this one was the indicator. I repeated. She said those were indicators too. WELL, shouldnt those be red too!?? If the phone is somehow magically been damaged by my sweat or who knows what... freaking condensation from when talking on the phone. She said, we do not care what you do with your phone. It has been water damaged and I can issue you a phone for the full price only.
FURIOUS, I call at&t on the way home. They told me to look at the one in the battery compartment of the phone and since it was white... I should have gotten a replacement. AMEN! The representative I talked to, told me that the fact that i was in the store, was not even recorded on my record. He told me that sometimes AT&T hires people and they have no idea of what they are talking about. They suggested I got a third opinion at another place.
Needless to say, it is Sunday and those are closed.
So, i went back to the internet. I found that most times they do not even consider the one on the charging place, because it can turn red easily (exactly what they told me at BestBuy. I was told that even air humidity can turn it red but INSIDE it is not damaged). Also, apparently they have a way of looking at the deterioration of the phone. WELL, I guess that sweet sweet lady did not feel like doing her job today.
Not to mention the fact that she did not notice that my SIM card was not inside the phone, and proceeded to do a hard reset or whatever it is called... not just the holding the vol. up and down.
Anyway, I just want to hear your opinion on this. I see there are many competent people here, willing to listen to your story. I will not pay $400 for a new phone when the freaking indicator turn red even from air humidity.
So, which indicators mean what? What do you think I should do? I do not want to be a victim here of smart placing of indicators, so AT&T or HTC can say "oops... we cant replace it."
Thank you so much!! I am sorry my post turned out so long

I would go to a 3rd place if its close and see what they say and explain everything again.
I agree with you and I have read that even humidity can turn the charger one red.
They have indicators all over, which tells them how far water got in. So if you put it around a spin cycle in the washer, all of them will probably change.

[Q] To claim or not to claim? S5 mysteriously survives dive into bubbly bucket.

Hi Everyone
I'd like to start off by apologizing that my first post is a question - as the welcome message so nicely encouraged helpful posts I promise I do have skills (not related to my question though, only software) & in future, when I have time, will hopefully manage to post something helpful. You can have a good lol at the stupid situation I've gotten myself into though.
I've looked over the internet for days but can't seem to find anyone in the exact same situation as myself... In a way I am extremely lucky but kinda not because now I've been left with a dilemma.
I have a Galaxy S5 and lo & behold it fell off the arm of the chair into a bucket of water (sadly not just any water but containing thoroughly diluted Fairy washing up liquid) which I was using to clean the floor an hour earlier. (Bucket placement fail. Rest assured I now always remove the bucket to the bathroom straight after cleaning.) It was submerged for ~2 seconds, was turned on at the time and when removed it was in the process of shutting itself down. Stupidly, my first instinct was to turn it back on (I know it's actually irrelevant but I was pretty uneducated on water damage before this happened so I thought if it came back on it was a good sign.) It began booting up normally but my second instinct was arguably more intelligent and I turned it back off again.
I went off to dissassemble it & just as I was thinking about how lucky it was that the S5 was water resistant I suddenly noticed a gap where the battery cover had come away (probably from the impact of hitting the bottom of the bucket - it fell bottom first and it was very shallow - still deeper than a phone.) That sucked. On removing it it was painfully obvious that water had got into it - everywhere - the water indicator behind the battery is so red it's half fallen off. So at this point I just consigned myself to claiming on my insurance (it is covered for this situation thankfully but there's an excess) and left it in pieces for a few minutes. I really stupidly turned it on again - just to check (please don't tell me off, I totally admit at this point I hadn't read on google this was a bad thing to do) - and the display did not work at this point, it constantly vibrated until I removed the battery again but I was erroneously relieved that it had powered on.
Remembering I had an emergency wet electronics pack - a rich name for a plastic bag with 2 big packets of silica gel in it - I thought I might as well try it (although I really did think there was no hope at this point.) I left it - and the battery - in the packet overnight and tried again in the morning - still no display (vibrating had stopped =)) I returned it to the emergency packet where I pretty much forgot about it for 3-4 days booting up my old S3 mini to use in the meantime. (Pay as you go so I still couldn't ring the 25p a minute insurance line.)
I was just about to pop to a relatives to use the house phone to make my claim when I thought I'd give it the S5 one last shot, not expecting anything, I pressed the power button & realised it wouldn't power on at all, so I wiped it with alcohol (having finally googled my problem... the cleaning kind, not the drinking kind), dried that off, plugged it in and lo & behold - again - it appears to work perfectly. This, ironically, is the crux of the problem.
I've read the insurance T& Cs over and over and whilst it covers water damage it says, in a totally unrelated section, that it doesn't cover damage that does not prevent the normal functioning of the device.
So I started googling some more. I read that water damaged devices may have some problems (namedly with the screen, audio or signal) yet I have none of these. I am ridiculously paranoid that every bit of lag is water damage but then again I have a lot of apps installed *naughty* so it's probably not... and tbh it does perform pretty well (my nonwater damaged laptop is lagging as I type & the S3 mini performs worse.) I also read that water-damaged devices frequently appear to work then give up the ghost within a few days of drowning - this also didn't happen. Aside from the indicator being red (and possibly soap residue inside knowing my luck) it's working. So, because of the fairly large excess I haven't reported it yet (there is no time limit on when you report the damage on my cover, I assume this is because most people want their phone replaced sooner rather than later.).
Soooo... phone is still working what I think is fine. Battery life sucks but tbf I think that's the case with all the droids I've had, if it did actually become a problem it's likely fixably by replacing the battery anyway. What I want to know is do I ring the insurance people anyway? There's no T & Cs regarding time of accident or when it breaks la de da but the clause that's worrying me is that the phone has to not be functioning normally. I don't want them saying "you can't have a new phone because it still works" and then snidily cancelling my insurance the next day because they know there is a heightenend future risk of breakdown. Or is water damage so bad that they will replace it anyway regardless of whether it's showing any signs of damage yet? I just want to know what the typical approach to that is.
I'd also like to know, based on the high-level of detail I've provided on what occured post-plunge - what are the odds & likely timescales of future breakdown? Is most the damage likely to have been done by now or is it still likely to turn into a brick at any second? If problems emerge are they likely to appear gradually or suddenly? It has been 4 weeks since the incident. I think I can safely rely on it day to day at this point but do you think it could last another 4 weeks? 4 months?
I guess I could dunk it again just to be sure it breaks :angel: but that seems like such a waste, both of the phone & the excess money... and not to mention stupid if there were any problems with the claims process or the new phone...
Thank you very much, Im really not much of an expert on what water does to phones. Especially not fairy liquid.
Many thanks
AngelzEye
TL;DR = Dunked S5 in water, waterproof cover failed on impact, did turn it back on whilst wet *idiot*, left it in emergency wet electronics pack for 3-4 days, works perfectly, insured for water damage but there's a clause that says damage that doesn't affect the normal functioning isn't covered - I'm guessing their talking about minor cracks here but does it apply to me? . What the hell do I do?? Should I break it properly and claim because the future risk of problems is so great, do I just wait it out and claim only if problems happen, will I get a replacement if i ring the insurance or will they refuse to replace it cos it still works and threaten my future cover.

S7 Edge dead screen.. No reply from Samsung

So my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge broke after 3 months, I got it the day it came out in the UK. At first I opened Snapchat then all of a sudden a third of the screen went pink and flickery, so I contacted samsung and they said do a factory reset and get back to them.
This did nothing, so I went to contact Samsung again and whilst I was contacting them the screen completely went so it was sent off to Anovo I got an email with a image of my Micro USB port saying....
“We have located damage on your device and this damage is not covered under the manufacturer’s warranty.
Our engineers have found liquid damage and are therefore unable to further assess any faults you were experiencing.
Please see attached a picture of the damage.
This damage is considered too severe for us to proceed, and classes your product as Beyond Economical Repair. (BER)”
I've never put my phone in water as I've never wanted to risk it but it has been exposed to a bit of rain (the weather hasn't been the best in the UK). I phoned Anovo to find out what was going on. The man on the phone told me exactly what the email said, and when I went on to say “I thought it was water resistant” he put me on hold to speak to someone. He then came back and said the engineers found water in the charging port but didn't say how it got there and also didn't tell me why the water sensor in the USB port didn't work to prevent it from happening, I don't know if a message pops up on your phone when you try and charge it when it's wet or not warning you but if there is one then I've never seen it.
But what's even stranger to me is that the phone still functions, it charges, it vibrates for notifications and the little light comes on, it makes sounds when you press the volume buttons, you can double tap the home button and it opens the camera, you can press the volume buttons to take pictures. So I feel like it's not as broken as I'm being told. I've made a lot of phone calls, sent a formal letter and 2 emails starting on Friday 13th (when I got the email from Anovo) and I am still yet to hear anything back!
I can't post links yet so can't attach the youtube video and image
Just posting this to warn people that the S7e might not be as waterproof as they make out and I wanted to see if anyone else has had any similar problems and could please help!

My first S7 Edge screen was faulty aswell, screen gives purple smudges and streaking black when swiped, sent it my mobile provider and was too severe to fix, so I got a replacement.
here in Australia the mobile service providers have to provide warranty to the life of the 2 year contract and we have tough warranty laws to protect consumers from these kinds of problems.

Could you attach some image or video?
You can try post the URL like "google[dot]com" or something like this if you can't directly post URL.

Hey, I have somewhat the same problem as you, My phone suddenly didn't show anything anymore, as if the screen was off. but everything still worked. So my screen is dead but not the touchscreen/anything else. and it's really annoing, also have not been in touch with water, and the waterdetection thing in the microSD tray is clearly still totally clean. so it can't be water. gonna send my phone off to repair monday and hope they are nicer than you'r provider...

I lost a 3 day old S7 edge to a total water damage. I placed it in a bowl of water ... anyways, they claim it's IP87 so the phone should handle this.
This phone isnt waterproof, or at least not mine, but my provider says "following up to our test we performed with the given device its still waterproof" and so the warranty is just void.
They asked me if I submerged the phone with the SIM-tray open. Or, they claimed, as its obviously the only way for water to get into. (...)
I have a IT diploma so that is just nothing Im evening considering discussing.
Its with a lawyer now and everybody should be very aware about this situation and how Samsung defines IP87
Komaandy

Here a couple of official Italian Samsung S7 & S7E advertisements with their water resistance...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S82LRydTWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXX3w6wJioI
Then my S7E must be able to do the same without damages! Or Samsung is lying...

Jomari29 said:
My first S7 Edge screen was faulty aswell, screen gives purple smudges and streaking black when swiped, sent it my mobile provider and was too severe to fix, so I got a replacement.
here in Australia the mobile service providers have to provide warranty to the life of the 2 year contract and we have tough warranty laws to protect consumers from these kinds of problems.
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Oh really need to move to Australia haha. I have found that because my phone is less then 6 months old then they have to prove that the fault wasn't with the phone when I brought it
NonXtreme said:
Could you attach some image or video?
You can try post the URL like "google[dot]com" or something like this if you can't directly post URL.
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Yeah can do
youtu[dot]be/s5J9dzpMyrQ this is before the screen went
youtu[dot]be/LTCr4Lt7riw this proves it still functions
goo[dot]gl/mg8FDS image that I was sent by A Novo
donoboy97 said:
Hey, I have somewhat the same problem as you, My phone suddenly didn't show anything anymore, as if the screen was off. but everything still worked. So my screen is dead but not the touchscreen/anything else. and it's really annoing, also have not been in touch with water, and the waterdetection thing in the microSD tray is clearly still totally clean. so it can't be water. gonna send my phone off to repair monday and hope they are nicer than you'r provider...
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Sorry to hear that bud! Yeah I checked mine too and it's still white! let me know how you get on, good luck!
Komaandy said:
I lost a 3 day old S7 edge to a total water damage. I placed it in a bowl of water ... anyways, they claim it's IP87 so the phone should handle this.
This phone isnt waterproof, or at least not mine, but my provider says "following up to our test we performed with the given device its still waterproof" and so the warranty is just void.
They asked me if I submerged the phone with the SIM-tray open. Or, they claimed, as its obviously the only way for water to get into. (...)
I have a IT diploma so that is just nothing Im evening considering discussing.
Its with a lawyer now and everybody should be very aware about this situation and how Samsung defines IP87
Komaandy
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Sounds like a lot of people are having problems with the "water-resistance". Let us know how it goes, good luck
themissionimpossible said:
Here a couple of official Italian Samsung S7 & S7E advertisements with their water resistance...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S82LRydTWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXX3w6wJioI
Then my S7E must be able to do the same without damages! Or Samsung is lying...
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Yeah they are similar to ones here in the UK! I've seen ones with lil Wayne pouring champagne over it and putting it in a fish tank too...

Komaandy said:
I lost a 3 day old S7 edge to a total water damage. I placed it in a bowl of water ... anyways, they claim it's IP87 so the phone should handle this.
This phone isnt waterproof, or at least not mine, but my provider says "following up to our test we performed with the given device its still waterproof" and so the warranty is just void.
They asked me if I submerged the phone with the SIM-tray open. Or, they claimed, as its obviously the only way for water to get into. (...)
I have a IT diploma so that is just nothing Im evening considering discussing.
Its with a lawyer now and everybody should be very aware about this situation and how Samsung defines IP87
Komaandy
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I thought the IP rating was IP68?
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/galaxy-s/galaxy-s7/design/
Still, it should withstand upto 1.5M for 30mins as per the above link.
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trickie69r said:
I thought the IP rating was IP68?
Still, it should withstand upto 1.5M for 30mins as per the above link.
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
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Yes, sorry, my bad. Stupid typo. IP87 doesnt even exist...
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calum1904 said:
Oh really need to move to Australia haha. I have found that because my phone is less then 6 months old then they have to prove that the fault wasn't with the phone when I brought it
Yeah can do
goo[dot]gl/mg8FDS image that I was sent by A Novo
Sorry to hear that bud! Yeah I checked mine too and it's still white! let me know how you get on, good luck!
Sounds like a lot of people are having problems with the "water-resistance". Let us know how it goes, good luck
Yeah they are similar to ones here in the UK! I've seen ones with lil Wayne pouring champagne over it and putting it in a fish tank too...
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The fact is that IF something happens, they just claim its your fault, because (!sic) you probably didnt keep the Simslot properly tightly closed(!sic). End of story for Samsung.

My S7E have this exact same problem before (glitch screen then went completely black screen but everything else work including touch screen) and It was fixed by just a screen replacement by local Samsung service centre under the warranty. I live in Thailand by the way.
I don't think it's water damaged. I did put my phone underwater before but there's nothing wrong with it. The water damage indicator didn't turn red either which indicated no water entered the phone.
I think it's just faulty screen batch and the affected device is among the early batch S7E.
Anovo is the one who run the Samsung service centre, right?
If so, I think Anovo is just being irresponsible.
I see nothing in the image they sent. I can't see anything indicate that the phone was water damaged. It also too blurry to see anything else.
Also from what I thought, since the phone is water resistance showing the image of outside the phone shouldn't be able to tell anything about water damage since it's the part that won't get or allow the phone to get water damaged. If they really wanted to show the damage, they must show the component inside the phone that get damaged.
In conclusion, the image they sent is nonsense and useless.
I'm not sure but maybe filing a lawsuit can help you.

Hello all!
I got the same problem. My screen has now a big lign without pixels and the screen is blinking a lot.
I've bought it in belgium at Mediamarkt. I'll go today to post it to repair. I hope that I'll not take too long before get my repair.
I never try to put it in the water or anything like that. It's protected by a Spigen Case and the phone is perfect not even a single scratch on it or the screen.
I cross my finger also because I've root it so I hope that they not tell me that I lost my warranty for a hardware problem!
Thanks!
Pierrick

Hi,
I have started to reading a lot and see that in my screen edges the touch is not so sensitive. It fails a lot of times.
And 3 or 4 times i have the turning on settings and apps by it self.
I have to reboot.
Im on btu latest version.

Cracks through S7 Edge Screen - No physical reason

Hey Guys,
I have noticed have been a few reports of S7 Edge screens cracking for what seems to be no reason. Mine has lived in a Pelican cover all of its life
I had mine next to my bed last night, before going to sleep I turned it over to be screen side down, and I heard a weird noise coming from it (sounding something like an electrical short). I picked it up, unplugged the charger, and was able to see the cracks appear as they slowly (over about 4 seconds) appeared all over the screen.
From looking at it, the cracks appear to have originated from the volume buttons?
Does anyone have any ideas / other articles / posts that I can see to help me with my case with Samsung warranty in Australia?
Thanks a lot for your help

I did try and insert a link to the photos I took, but as a new member I cannot insert links.

Haven't heard of this issue.
Try mailing me a link through private messaging and I can post it.

There you go.
http://imgur.com/a/3cDKK

It appears that the display cracked from within? Did you apply any considerable force to the volume buttons before this?
Can you feel the cracks when running your finger across the screen?
I'm sorry for your loss, though you actually seem strangely calm when discussing your spontaneously cracking smartphone.

iSaitama said:
It appears that the display cracked from within? Did you apply any considerable force to the volume buttons before this?
Can you feel the cracks when running your finger across the screen?
I'm sorry for your loss, though you actually seem strangely calm when discussing your spontaneously cracking smartphone.
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The cracks seem to be from within the screen, and you cannot really feel anything from the surface.
There was no unusual force applied to the phone that I can recall.
The part that really confused me, was the fact that it seemed to take about 5 seconds from the start of being able to hear the noise, to the time the cracks had made their way across the screen.
Yeah, not calm, pretty pissed about the whole thing actually. I was hoping I would be able to find a few more examples of this happening to others, but it doesn't appear to be the case.

Contact samsungs customer service, maybe there is a chance that you get it replaced by samsung. Doesn't look like it's your fault.

paysen said:
Contact samsungs customer service, maybe there is a chance that you get it replaced by samsung. Doesn't look like it's your fault.
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The problem will be proving that. I'm not implying the OP isn't being truthful, but you can pretty much guarantee the majority of people that go to Samsung with cracked screens do so whilst claiming that it just happened and the phone hadn't been dropped/manhandled etc, even if they had. Unfortunately, I can't see this being repaired free of charge.
As for the photos, I can't look at them without cringing! I'd be mortified if that happened to mine. Hope you get it sorted.

paysen said:
Contact samsungs customer service, maybe there is a chance that you get it replaced by samsung. Doesn't look like it's your fault.
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The phone is currently with a service centre in Perth WA.
The guy I spoke to there was one of the biggest douche bags I have dealt with in a very long time. He had very close to zero interest in helping me, and pretty much laughed me off the whole time.
Yesterday (after about a week of it being at the service centre) I contacted Samsung Support, and they informed me that the warranty case manager at Samsung had rejected my claim as hey do not cover physical damage. I informed her of what had happened to the phone, and why in my opinion it should be covered. She said that there was no information on the Service Request form about what had happenened (written and sent in by the DB in Perth), and all the request said was "Cracked Screen and customer is escalating for Samsung to Cover". There was no information about what I had said happened, and as the case manager does not have the physical device (I am assuming they are on the other side of the country), they just directly rejected it without any thought because they don't normally cover that sort of damage.
Long story short, they are going to re open the service request with the new information and see how it goes.
This time I will be able to speak directly with the Samsung case manager and explain to him my version of events, instead of wasting my time with some smart arsed tech.
Fingers crossed

Simmilar issue like Note 5/ Edge Plus. The problem is from drastic temperatures of charging device and surface of your table/ plot. The phone is very warm because of the charging process but the surface of the plot is cold -> and boom, the screen or glassy back cracking. My opinion is because of the slim body of the device, when the battery going to degredation the dimensions is going bigger and there is a chance to crack the whole device from inside.

Same. S7 Edge Glass Cracked for no Reason
I recognize this thread is old, but same thing happened recently to me with my S7 Edge after less than a month. Never broke a phone ever, had it in a case, didn't drop it. Broke similar to yours. Samsung basically said 'we don't believe you' and that was the end of it. Done with those guys. Nokia was also a once great cellphone Company who similarly got smug like this, and how many of you are carrying Nokias around these days? Exactly, none of us.