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So I read on CNET, a preview that the Wildfire S will be running a 2.4 (a bug fixed gingerbread, I think they mean 2.3.3) rather than 2.3 gingerbread when it comes out late spring at a similar price. So its almost time to ditch the wildfire already sigh..... cos face it wildfire screen is simply lame.
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I did actually read the same. But then, there are conflicting reports. Some sources state that 2.4 is Ice Cream, whereas some say 2.4 is still Gingerbread. Obviously, as far as I know, 2.4 will be Ice Cream, and, in such a case, Wildfire S runs Android 2.3.x Gingerbread.
Ahaa gingerbread hasn't been out for long so I think that google wouldn't release another so quickly. But they have announced it'd be soon.
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Android Central has this from a customer that contacted HTC.
The bigger question for me: which version of Sense will it get? (2.0? 2.1? 3.0? something entirely different?)
[Could someone post the link for me, still can't put outside links in]
First off, here's that link you wanted...
Second, if it gets Sense 3.0 I will **** myself. Likely 2.0, but still...
I really like that lockscreen in 3.0.
Also I guess its worth speculating over which gingerbread it will get. The rumors about the Droid X update had 2.3.3, but supposedly 2.4 is in the works.
As i said with Froyo, I'll believe this when I see it.
billandsebastian said:
Android Central has this from a customer that contacted HTC.
The bigger question for me: which version of Sense will it get? (2.0? 2.1? 3.0? something entirely different?)
[Could someone post the link for me, still can't put outside links in]
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I think its "impossible" for us to get sense 3.0 because well its built to run on dual core phones as you see only two phones have been "announced" and not "released" that will run sense 3.0 and both have dual core 1.2 ghz processors and i dont think htc would give us sense 2.0 since sense 2.1 is so similar so if we get sense 2.1 or 2.0 it will be 2.1 because of it's similarities and thats only a slim chance that we will get sense 2.1 because we might stick with out original sense which will be very sad but as the other guy said if the incredible gets sense 3.0 i will also **** myself hehe.
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Second, if it gets Sense 3.0 I will **** myself. Likely 2.0, but still...
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Cheers!
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Unfortunately, it's official - HTC will not be supporting Sense 3.0 on non-dual core devices. So it's Sense 2.x or bust for us.
http://mobiputing.com/2011/04/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-run-on-newest-phones-tablets/
I would imagine HTC would port Sense 2.0 to the Incredible, rather than working with Sense 1.0. That being said, I've been wrong before.
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Unfortunately, it's official - HTC will not be supporting Sense 3.0 on non-dual core devices. So it's Sense 2.x or bust for us.
http://mobiputing.com/2011/04/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-run-on-newest-phones-tablets/
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And the clarification:
"Clarification: aspects of the latest HTC Sense won’t work on some previous devices. We are working to incorporate other aspects that will"
Perhaps Sense 2.1.1? Or 2.2?
Odds are we will be on sense 2.0. Engadget just posted an article saying that only the newwer phones will get 3.0 so that's a non-issue. HTC did say we will get gingerbread by end of 2nd qt 2011 so we should be good on that.
The big question is... will be it worth unrooting and loading back on all that bloatware for the 2.3 update?
I'm sure a couple of the devs around here will help all of us not make that decision.
We wont be getting Sense 3 thats for sure, but once again I don't really care what we get since I'm rooted and will always have the best stuff available before stock users
Compared to the Evo Gingerbread leak yesterday, the Inc might get stuck with Sense 1.0...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
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Compared to the Evo Gingerbread leak yesterday, the Inc might get stuck with Sense 1.0...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
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yes but that leak can turn into sense 2.0 within a day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706
I'm concerned that we will get locked from being able to root after the update. I think that happened with the Aria when AT&T pushed out the 2.2 update where the phone was unrootable after that?
Am I mistaken or is this a legit concern? I'm kind of a newbie to the root scene so I could be being a total idiot here.
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yes but that leak can turn into sense 2.0 within a day
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706
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Hey incubus any chance of that getting ported to our incredibles?
I'm still happy with CM7 so IF we get it I probably won't install it.
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The evo got a leaked version with sense 1.0 so I will just assume that our phones will not receive anything better
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for me, the importang from official 2.3 from htc is, dev could get the driver2 that need for optimizing the kernel and rom (gpu, cam, etc)
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I'm concerned that we will get locked from being able to root after the update. I think that happened with the Aria when AT&T pushed out the 2.2 update where the phone was unrootable after that?
Am I mistaken or is this a legit concern? I'm kind of a newbie to the root scene so I could be being a total idiot here.
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I could be mistaken, but given that you can set S-off, doesn't that pretty much guarantee that you can always flash a custom recovery and then, flash a rooted ROM?
Besides, even if the update is "unrootable"... I have no doubt that smarter people than I will be able to find a way.
Hi All,
With news humming around that IceCream Sandwich will be out soon ( October Maybe ) Do you think that we will see official update from HTC to Desire HD or they will continue ignoring Desire HD owners and we will go for custom ROM's from developers ??
Images for IceCream Sandwich are already leaked out...
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak1.jpg
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak2.jpg
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak3.jpg
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak4.jpg
I don't think that we will get 2.4 officially, but I know that the sensation will get it 100%, and the great devs will bring it to us! that's my point of view.
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Offical update? Unlikely, especially if the DHD does not meet the hardware requirements.
or they will continue ignoring Desire HD owners
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I'm curious. How did HTC ignore DHD owners? We have the latest updates, after all.
Don't get how the desire hd doesn't have the right specs, if its better than the Nexus S. Unless its the dedicated gpu that it needs.
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I'm curious. How did HTC ignore DHD owners? We have the latest updates, after all.
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Official Sense 3.0 Update , I don't know how HTC claims that Desire HD doesn't fit with requirements to run Sense 3.0 while XDA developers brings Full Functional Sense 3.0 to Desire HD in thier ROM's !!!!
Most rumors says that Ice-cream doesn't need hardware changes and it will fit in old devices and comparing Desire HD to Nexus S i think Desire HD is better in Ram and almost equal processor performance !!!!!
Good point about Sense 3.0.
Anyways, I hope there will be support, but it might be too much to ask that we will get any the day ICS comes out. We may be waiting for for some time.
i dont think so................they have already ignored us in updating to sense 3..........................most probably.....officially we wont get it.........
but i am damn sure that XDA will find a way..............
In their official statement i've read at endgadget, "...ice cream sandwich is expected to be backward compatible, universal upgrade that will standardize the Android platform." I forgot where the links are.
8penned from my blazing fast DHD
Keep in mind that Sense 3.0 is HTC's UI on top of Android Gingerbread OS. The new Sense 3.0 devices have more or less the same Gingerbread beneath.
Even if we think Sense 3.0 works okay in ports on the DHD it might not meet HTC's "quality standards" regarding smoothness and stability for example, on a phone that hasn't got the hardware it was meant for. This I think is the reason why we haven't got a Sense 3.0 (yet). Another reason could be that new devices need something special to make people upgrade their old phones and not just update them. HTC might just be holding back the update until they've sold enough new phones.
I'm not saying that I'm sure we'll get Ice Cream but there's a difference in releasing a whole new OS instead of just a UI. A new OS brings much more important and necessary changes (eg security fixes and new features) than a UI. AFAIK Ice Cream will be designed to work even on phones that aren't cutting edge.
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I don't think that it will, officially anyway.
The DHD went from Froyo to Gingerbread, where as i think the Sensation will go from Gingerbread to IceCream Sandwich.
sromer said:
I don't think that it will, officially anyway.
The DHD went from Froyo to Gingerbread, where as i think the Sensation will go from Gingerbread to IceCream Sandwich.
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I agree that. More than a 2 official updates of Android ver. on device that it`s not branded by google (Nexus) it`s not for hope.. but there will be many cust. roms based on Icecream for sure
but i think there wont be any ARHD rom based on ice cream sandwich........
and that makes me sad ...........
If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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kuklux said:
If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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This is the problem with Android devices and what gives iPhone more popularity in some markets that Apple support for their devices
3Gs is more than 2 years old and still get support with new iOs till now so this is a good point for it but with Android it's always up to developers community
Icecream Sandwich meant to all devices and tablets so i think that all devices that meet minimum requirements should get it cuz this is the first Android version that will be compatible with both Tablets and Mobiles also with support for new languages like Arabic as example and have better enhancements in it's core so i think that we should get it
kuklux said:
If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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sony ericson-->nokia 5110--->nokia 3210--->nokia 3350-->nokia 6600-->nokia 6630--->nokia n70--->O2 xda mini II--->iphone 2g-->HTC legend--->HTC Desire HD...............
i know one more fone after DHD wont be that tough for ya..............
I agree also supposed to be able to work on all 2.2 and up
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if they arent releasing officially.........
.i want the world to be end by december 2011.....
I think the last update for our dhd is 2.3.3 thats the final and major update some other phone like samsung tab still getting 2.3.3 at the moment so i think this is our last update... Thats why it is open source and its up to developer to make run to our dhd...
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How about the Desire that went from 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.3?
So maybe if we're lucky!
I am honestly not too concerned. As others have stated ports will most probably arrive after the release. And I would honestly rather use a ROM cooked up by one of the talented devs here than the official HTC crew. So far their results have underwhelmed me.
They do however make quality phones that feel good to hold in your hand, and that is what I buy them for. The rest I fix myself. =P
kuklux said:
If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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Also this. It's a shame, a real shame. But I suppose if they did not do it this way and kept people interested somehow, they would stop selling phones. I do find it silly though that with the crazy specifications on new phones that a phone like the DHD which I consider a decent phone will be left in the dirt a lot sooner than I had imagined.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/09/09/android-jelly-bean/
More likely, it will be something like Jelly Roll instead. Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, FroYo, Gingerbread, ICS (not just Ice Cream as your title states) . . . the naming convention has been following dessert-type items, not just sweets. But then, I was sure the last version would be Gelato.
Also, isn't ICS pretty clearly going to be version 4.0? This source seems to be out of the loop with that, or maybe just being very cautious without formal confirmation.
And, finally, shouldn't this be in the Android General forum?
SilverZero said:
More likely, it will be something like Jelly Roll instead. Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, FroYo, Gingerbread, ICS (not just Ice Cream as your title states) . . . the naming convention has been following dessert-type items, not just sweets. But then, I was sure the last version would be Gelato.
Also, isn't ICS pretty clearly going to be version 4.0? This source seems to be out of the loop with that, or maybe just being very cautious without formal confirmation.
And, finally, shouldn't this be in the Android General forum?
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-lol I agree, it should be Jelly Roll to coincide with previous naming.
We don't even know much and we're already talking about the next version?
-I've seen conflicting reports but does it really matter?
It should just be 3.0. One version for tablets, one for phones.
-It is.
Honeycomb is already 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2
velociraptors said:
Honeycomb is already 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2
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I realize that but why play games with it?
Just name it 3.0 and have honeycomb (and future tablet versions) numbered under it's current structure.
What are you gonna do have it go from 3.x to 5.x for tablets?
Silly.
next version?
Kiwi? Wow, good luck.
The new version will bridge the gap between all the differing versions and unite all android under the same OS - phone AND tablet. The new version, out sometime Q4 this year, will be Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich.
Chlballi
mattykinsx said:
I realize that but why play games with it?
Just name it 3.0 and have honeycomb (and future tablet versions) numbered under it's current structure.
What are you gonna do have it go from 3.x to 5.x for tablets?
Silly.
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No. ICS is a unified platform for both phones and tablets. So all devices would be running 4.0.
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Rem3Dy said:
No. ICS is a unified platform for both phones and tablets. So all devices would be running 4.0.
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I haven't heard anything like that.
Source?
mattykinsx said:
I haven't heard anything like that.
Source?
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This is what was said at the Google I/O.
9:15 a.m. (Maggie Reardon): Ice Cream Sandwich will allow Google partners to put the OS on all kinds of form factors: phones that flip, tablets, smartphones. One OS that runs everywhere. That's the goal.
Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20061246-266.html#ixzz1XiYa4umU
I don't know what a Jelly Roll is... but I want to taste one!
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I haven't heard anything like that.
Source?
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This may be true, I've seen this some where.
Help support ERA and Android4Autism...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/donatetome.php?u=331067
You think the ice cream sandwhich android system supports ideos.x5?
or can be supported with custom roms ?
The next version of Cyanogen will be based on ice cream sandwich!
Maybe we could not get the ICS, because Huawei will not creat the 3.0.1 kernel for X5.
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With custom ROMs, sure! About official, not sure yet.
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I highly doubt there will be official ICS. Huawei doesn't seem to be the best company at giving updates to our phones. Still no gingerbread and you guys are talking about official ICS.
EDIT: People should also read the forums rules. Development forum is only for rom, kernel etc development. So if you are not developing anything you should put these in the general section of the forum.
What is needed to be done to get the 3.0 kernel to this phone?
with custom roms supported.... k?
It's too soon to know.Source ain't out yet, right?
u8800,cm7,[email protected]
PlanDreaM said:
It's too soon to know.Source ain't out yet, right?
u8800,cm7,[email protected]
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yes, right...
Then, as soon as the code comes we will be able to know which phones can take it.
It is my assumption that the U8800 will have some minor problems with it, if ram is an issue.I find no problems with the hardware though.If ICS has hardware acceleration on the browser and UI, our GPU can take it.I find no reason not tofcourse we will have to see what happens with the drivers, and what we need to change.
I am positive though.
Huawei Forums;
Senior Vice President of Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. Yu Chengdong: I see some friends who use the old product U8800 asking if 2.2 can upgrade to 2.3 version as their expectations and concerns. Huawei's mobile phone R&D focus to a more leading ICS 4.0 version, with the fastest speed for the main products directly to upgrade to 4.0, for which cannot be upgraded to 4.0 will also be upgraded to 2.3, unless some of the hardware capabilities are limited. However, Vision Honor and other new models provide the first public version 2.3, and then will be the fastly upgraded to version 4.0!
ideos x5
Vague bull***t... :/ Whats that suppossed to mean? After all these months of waiting for the "october relase of gingerbread" now we'll have to wait for a (probably fictional) upgrade straight to 4.0?
They just keep reminding us why they sell their phones so cheap dont they?....
There are none ice cream sandwich release yet. They just lies..
http://twitter.com/#!/HuaweiDevice/status/90736282896052224 => "2.3 will be coming."
http://getsatisfaction.com/huaweiindia/topics/android_2_3_when_for_ideos_x5 = > Will be in october.
CMO says: 2.3 is not coming. 4.0 will be coming.
Are they kidding? 4.0 even not launched yet.
Özgürce said:
There are none ice cream sandwich release yet. They just lies..
http://twitter.com/#!/HuaweiDevice/status/90736282896052224 => "2.3 will be coming."
http://getsatisfaction.com/huaweiindia/topics/android_2_3_when_for_ideos_x5 = > Will be in october.
CMO says: 2.3 is not coming. 4.0 will be coming.
Are they kidding? 4.0 even not launched yet.
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I think most of the companies have the ICS SDK already for faster releases - at least that's my imagination of a perfect world lol
franciscofranco said:
I think most of the companies have the ICS SDK already for faster releases - at least that's my imagination of a perfect world lol
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Samsung has it,for sure
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Samsung has ICS SDK because the Google Galaxy Nexus Prime will be launched next month and will have the first phone with ICS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM9RO-GAKjE
i think it will
i think it wont..
On this site, it says all newer devices HAVE to have the latest update for the first 18 months after they go on sale. I think our u8800 is new enough. (In Estonia available at August, announced in December 2010 worldwide?)
And, Open Handset Alliance members are here, as you can see, Huawei is there.
And I read somewhere that ICS should support >1 year old devices, so even if we don't get the official port, we'll get a custom one hopefully.
would be great to have ICS to x5