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I just read this and so I'm hoping we get Froyo soon too. Hopefully we will.
http://phandroid.com/2010/06/22/htc...-desire-and-legend-within-the-next-two-weeks/
Would be awesome if true but why in the world isn't the Evo mentioned
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Would be awesome if true but why in the world isn't the Evo mentioned
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I don't know but I hope we get it.maybe that's why google is updating all their apps. Google maps is also getting a update.
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We should definitely be getting it on the EVO... the only question is how soon???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY3U2GXhz44
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Desire and Legend do not have Sense UI, which means it's a straightforward port.
If you've played with any of the 2.1 ROMs with JIT you would know that JIT does not work with Sense. Froyo - JIT = FAIL. Thus a froyo port for sense devices could be a little further away than you would hope.
Just wait for the evo kernel source to be released and we will have a complete badass froyo rom for evo, minus the sense (which I've learned to live without already.)
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the Desire and Legend do not have Sense UI, which means it's a straightforward port.
If you've played with any of the 2.1 ROMs with JIT you would know that JIT does not work with Sense. Froyo - JIT = FAIL. Thus a froyo port for sense devices could be a little further away than you would hope.
Just wait for the evo kernel source to be released and we will have a complete badass froyo rom for evo, minus the sense (which I've learned to live without already.)
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Correction....the Desire and Legend do have the SenseUI. The Nexus is stock, Vanilla Android.
itmustbejj said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Desire and Legend do not have Sense UI, which means it's a straightforward port.
If you've played with any of the 2.1 ROMs with JIT you would know that JIT does not work with Sense. Froyo - JIT = FAIL. Thus a froyo port for sense devices could be a little further away than you would hope.
Just wait for the evo kernel source to be released and we will have a complete badass froyo rom for evo, minus the sense (which I've learned to live without already.)
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Both Desire and Legend are running on Sense UI. The Only HTC (Android) device that I know that doesn't run on Sense is The Nexus One.
The key is the Desire and Legend aren't locked to carriers, and don't have to go through the US carrier dance whenever they want to release an update.
If you read the article and then jump to the Adobe announcement..."explicitly mentioned several devices that will be getting Android 2.2 sometime down the line to take advantage of Flash Mobile 10.1 (it will be heading out of beta and into a final release the moment Froyo is available). The Google Nexus One, HTC Desire, HTC EVO 4G, Motorola Droid/Milestone, and the HTC Droid Incredible are all of the obvious candidates they mentioned,"
My hunch is that we will see 2.2 drop with some fixes for things seen in the first release of the EVO (30 fps, screen capacitance, etc.). If that's true, we will see 2.2 sooner rather than later.
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If you read the article and then jump to the Adobe announcement..."explicitly mentioned several devices that will be getting Android 2.2 sometime down the line to take advantage of Flash Mobile 10.1 (it will be heading out of beta and into a final release the moment Froyo is available). The Google Nexus One, HTC Desire, HTC EVO 4G, Motorola Droid/Milestone, and the HTC Droid Incredible are all of the obvious candidates they mentioned,"
My hunch is that we will see 2.2 drop with some fixes for things seen in the first release of the EVO (30 fps, screen capacitance, etc.). If that's true, we will see 2.2 sooner rather than later.
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That would be a very beautiful thing if you are right. They would be killing multiple birds with one stone then. Almost seems to logical for htc and sprint though so i doubt this will be the case
Things needed for a fully working Froyo Build on the EVO
1 2.6.32 kernel source with drivers for the EVO. (Not Available)
2 Evo Vendor Files needed for Froyo source (Not Available)
3 Froyo Source
pixelpop said:
If you read the article and then jump to the Adobe announcement..."explicitly mentioned several devices that will be getting Android 2.2 sometime down the line to take advantage of Flash Mobile 10.1 (it will be heading out of beta and into a final release the moment Froyo is available). The Google Nexus One, HTC Desire, HTC EVO 4G, Motorola Droid/Milestone, and the HTC Droid Incredible are all of the obvious candidates they mentioned,"
My hunch is that we will see 2.2 drop with some fixes for things seen in the first release of the EVO (30 fps, screen capacitance, etc.). If that's true, we will see 2.2 sooner rather than later.
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HTC has said that the 30fps issue is hardware related and will not be fixed, so if it somehow gets magically fixed the same time they push Froyo I will be ecstatic.
asrebel said:
HTC has said that the 30fps issue is hardware related and will not be fixed, so if it somehow gets magically fixed the same time they push Froyo I will be ecstatic.
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If the LCD is running off of the MDDI interface, there is no way to fix it. MDDI 1.1 has a 30hz limitation. End of story.
Doesn't it stand to reason that HTC must at least wait for google to finish Froyo before HTC can release it? Perhaps HTC is able to begin designing their Sense UI while awaiting a final build of Froyo, but I doubt they'd release 2.2 for their devices based upon a beta-build of Froyo.
I certainly hope that we see an official HTC Froyo release asap, though once it's available I will wait to see what the XDA community is able to do to preserve root, and eagerly await some optimized ROMs based on an official release of Froyo.
In the meantime, I love my Evo and am enjoying it thoroughly. I just wish we'd get some 4G down here in the big-easy.
Battery issues aside, I picked up one of the chinese battery/charger bundles on ebay for $11 shipped. I don't mind carrying 2 spare (albeit, probably lower mAH) batteries for extended weekend excursions.
Vandam500 said:
Both Desire and Legend are running on Sense UI. The Only HTC (Android) device that I know that doesn't run on Sense is The Nexus One.
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G1/Dream
MyTouch 3G/Sapphire/Magic/Ion/etc...
There are more than just the N1.
When will the G2 get android 3.1, the expected ice cream sandwich version with the famous gpu acceleration after its release?
We are on waiting list to get gingerbread soon most probably in august
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3.1 is honeycomb
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Haha that's funny. We are still waiting for Gingerbread since its release and your asking about Ice cream. I doubt the G2 will ever see it without rooting.
well since htc signed tht agreement about updating phones for at least a year and a half id say we will see ice cream served
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Beagan said:
well since htc signed tht agreement about updating phones for at least a year and a half id say we will see ice cream served
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I'm fairly sure that was for newly launched devices.
hogg2500 said:
3.1 is honeycomb
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sorry idk why i put 3.1, i meant 3.x
XPLANE9 said:
I'm fairly sure that was for newly launched devices.
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yup the agreement said from now on lol i still think we will get ice cream tho tbh
Dont think the G2 will get Ice Cream. Think it will stop at Gingerbread. Feel Ice Cream is gonna be optimized for dual core devices.
i thought ice cream sandwich was going to be 2.4. that is what i have read on most of the websites. Read that google was going making 3.x a tablet os and keep 2.x as a phone os. If that does i see it continuing with even numbers being phone os and odd being table os.
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Dont think the G2 will get Ice Cream. Think it will stop at Gingerbread. Feel Ice Cream is gonna be optimized for dual core devices.
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nop not for dual cores only
...and it's putting a stop to Android fragmentation...
There's nothing worse than your friends having a more recent Android version than what you have, and thus getting cool new features. Google said they want "one OS that runs everywhere." They're going to do this by adapting the framework and adding new APIs "to help developers optimize for all various devices." Naturally, they're going to be open source.
I just read on google that T-mobile said G2 end of life will be soon. I doubt the G2 will see anything past Gingerbread.
Richard1510 said:
I just read on google that T-mobile said G2 end of life will be soon. I doubt the G2 will see anything past Gingerbread.
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links please
If we do see ICS it is going to be because of the rom community supporting it, not the carrier. I sincerely doubt we'll see a G3 come down the pipes within the year. I can only think that HTC will keep with the two year gap like they did with the G1-G2. When they do, I would imagine that it will be running ICS, probably around mid July next year.
Admittedly this is all speculation.
That worries me tooo
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link to G2 end of life rumor
link to G2 end of life rumor
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Well that was out of stock on tmobile doesn't really mean its the end of it, tmobile just has it out of stock so don't worry, this have nothing with the G2 ending LOL
And look @ this link
http://drippler.com/t-mobile-g2/goo...its-all-ice-cream-sandwich-os-unites-android/
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This link means not only for dual core, but for every android device ice cream will be optimized for, therefor I think we will see ice cream sandwich update, they can't leave us like this.
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T-mobile has the G2 as approaching end of life in the system, we are nearing that point. Cyanogen will still have us covered for ICS, I'm not worried.
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Frankly i can't wait till the drop of ICS. I'm supporting my buddy in getting the latest of updates so moving over to a super stable rom will be a godsend.
I seriously don't want to flash ice cream in the G2 I really want the official update that we should get because ice cream will be optimized to fit all android devices. But for now we are waiting for gingerbread and after that we can hope to receive the ice cream update from htc
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just wondering... icecream sandwhich sounds deliecious...
3.1 is not ice cream sandwich. That's going to be android 4.0 which hasn't even been released yet buddy.
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Although 3.1 is rocking. Looking forward to the usb peripheral support. Toshiba thrive out next month. Grabbing it the day it comes out.
I read somewhere units with micro usb supporting 3.1 can still utilize this function with an adapter.
Fyi 3.1 is still honey comb
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sorry 4.0 then. i ask because i saw a article somewhere from like may or somthin of 2010 that said wed be getting it soon so was just wondering if it ever came out. didnt know its not even in beta yet...
Ice Cream Sandwich is going to be farrrrr away. And I believe it's going to be 2.4
It's going to appear first on the Nexus 3 later this winter, probably around Christmas. So take account the time for Google to open source it, and then for Cyanogen to cook it up... We'll probably won't see Ice Cream Sandwich on this phone until early next year. Probably around Jan-Feb at the earliest.
Our first chance of seeing IceCreamSammich on this phone will likely be with CyanogenMod when ICS is released to AOSP. I'm too big a fan of some of the Sense underpinnings and apps (camera, browser) to use CM7, but for ICS, I might just go with CM8.
yea i use dolphin browser and the camera is the only thing i like about sense roms... aosp are so raw royal ginger is where its at ... bluemagic theme with adw ex is dope
I just read this article saying that the Nexus 4G will be Android 4.0 "Ice Cream Sandwich".
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yea i use dolphin browser and the camera is the only thing i like about sense roms... aosp are so raw royal ginger is where its at ... bluemagic theme with adw ex is dope
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AOSP is the only way to go.
w/ either LPP or ADW/EX.
I think it would make the most sense to make Ice cream Sandwich 4.0. 3.x is tablets, 2.x is smartphones. since it doesn't fit in either specifically, it probably will need a new number.
And chances are it will leak out on to phones through the SDK at some point. I've heard that the emulator for the versions is released long before it is open sourced so devs can make apps for it. people are expecting it to appear in the SDK as early as Q3 this year. We can hope, right?
Hi All,
With news humming around that IceCream Sandwich will be out soon ( October Maybe ) Do you think that we will see official update from HTC to Desire HD or they will continue ignoring Desire HD owners and we will go for custom ROM's from developers ??
Images for IceCream Sandwich are already leaked out...
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak1.jpg
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak2.jpg
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak3.jpg
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak4.jpg
I don't think that we will get 2.4 officially, but I know that the sensation will get it 100%, and the great devs will bring it to us! that's my point of view.
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Offical update? Unlikely, especially if the DHD does not meet the hardware requirements.
or they will continue ignoring Desire HD owners
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I'm curious. How did HTC ignore DHD owners? We have the latest updates, after all.
Don't get how the desire hd doesn't have the right specs, if its better than the Nexus S. Unless its the dedicated gpu that it needs.
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I'm curious. How did HTC ignore DHD owners? We have the latest updates, after all.
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Official Sense 3.0 Update , I don't know how HTC claims that Desire HD doesn't fit with requirements to run Sense 3.0 while XDA developers brings Full Functional Sense 3.0 to Desire HD in thier ROM's !!!!
Most rumors says that Ice-cream doesn't need hardware changes and it will fit in old devices and comparing Desire HD to Nexus S i think Desire HD is better in Ram and almost equal processor performance !!!!!
Good point about Sense 3.0.
Anyways, I hope there will be support, but it might be too much to ask that we will get any the day ICS comes out. We may be waiting for for some time.
i dont think so................they have already ignored us in updating to sense 3..........................most probably.....officially we wont get it.........
but i am damn sure that XDA will find a way..............
In their official statement i've read at endgadget, "...ice cream sandwich is expected to be backward compatible, universal upgrade that will standardize the Android platform." I forgot where the links are.
8penned from my blazing fast DHD
Keep in mind that Sense 3.0 is HTC's UI on top of Android Gingerbread OS. The new Sense 3.0 devices have more or less the same Gingerbread beneath.
Even if we think Sense 3.0 works okay in ports on the DHD it might not meet HTC's "quality standards" regarding smoothness and stability for example, on a phone that hasn't got the hardware it was meant for. This I think is the reason why we haven't got a Sense 3.0 (yet). Another reason could be that new devices need something special to make people upgrade their old phones and not just update them. HTC might just be holding back the update until they've sold enough new phones.
I'm not saying that I'm sure we'll get Ice Cream but there's a difference in releasing a whole new OS instead of just a UI. A new OS brings much more important and necessary changes (eg security fixes and new features) than a UI. AFAIK Ice Cream will be designed to work even on phones that aren't cutting edge.
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I don't think that it will, officially anyway.
The DHD went from Froyo to Gingerbread, where as i think the Sensation will go from Gingerbread to IceCream Sandwich.
sromer said:
I don't think that it will, officially anyway.
The DHD went from Froyo to Gingerbread, where as i think the Sensation will go from Gingerbread to IceCream Sandwich.
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I agree that. More than a 2 official updates of Android ver. on device that it`s not branded by google (Nexus) it`s not for hope.. but there will be many cust. roms based on Icecream for sure
but i think there wont be any ARHD rom based on ice cream sandwich........
and that makes me sad ...........
If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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kuklux said:
If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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This is the problem with Android devices and what gives iPhone more popularity in some markets that Apple support for their devices
3Gs is more than 2 years old and still get support with new iOs till now so this is a good point for it but with Android it's always up to developers community
Icecream Sandwich meant to all devices and tablets so i think that all devices that meet minimum requirements should get it cuz this is the first Android version that will be compatible with both Tablets and Mobiles also with support for new languages like Arabic as example and have better enhancements in it's core so i think that we should get it
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If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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sony ericson-->nokia 5110--->nokia 3210--->nokia 3350-->nokia 6600-->nokia 6630--->nokia n70--->O2 xda mini II--->iphone 2g-->HTC legend--->HTC Desire HD...............
i know one more fone after DHD wont be that tough for ya..............
I agree also supposed to be able to work on all 2.2 and up
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if they arent releasing officially.........
.i want the world to be end by december 2011.....
I think the last update for our dhd is 2.3.3 thats the final and major update some other phone like samsung tab still getting 2.3.3 at the moment so i think this is our last update... Thats why it is open source and its up to developer to make run to our dhd...
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How about the Desire that went from 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.3?
So maybe if we're lucky!
I am honestly not too concerned. As others have stated ports will most probably arrive after the release. And I would honestly rather use a ROM cooked up by one of the talented devs here than the official HTC crew. So far their results have underwhelmed me.
They do however make quality phones that feel good to hold in your hand, and that is what I buy them for. The rest I fix myself. =P
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If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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Also this. It's a shame, a real shame. But I suppose if they did not do it this way and kept people interested somehow, they would stop selling phones. I do find it silly though that with the crazy specifications on new phones that a phone like the DHD which I consider a decent phone will be left in the dirt a lot sooner than I had imagined.
Update on Ice Cream Sandwich
by HTC on Friday, October 21, 2011 at 10:14pm
Since Google unveiled Ice Cream Sandwich earlier this week, HTC has been looking closely at the new OS's features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. We're a recognized industry leader in providing fast and consistent upgrades to our Android devices (see what Engadget had to say about our upgrades: http://engt.co/qMb9nQ), and Ice Cream Sandwich will be no different.
Upgrades require a careful balance of hardware and software to ensure the best possible performance and usability, so please stay tuned as we assess our product portfolio. Our goal is to upgrade as many HTC devices as possible and we'll be sharing details on specific devices and timing in the coming weeks!
Thanks!
i am very much lookin fwd to ICS for my wildfire
Wildfire didn't get official Gingerbread, so I can't see how on earth you people are linking HTC's posts on ICS, and, "waiting/hoping" for official ICS, no less.
I agree with 3xeno.
When they said they'll upgrade as many of their devices, the meant recent
devices. So what, HTC will upgrade the G1 to ICS? No go. And plus, they declared the Wildfire as end-of-life. Nullifying the chance.
I am not trying to say I don't want official ICS; I do want it very much, but there is a slim chance of it happening.
any unofficial rom's available???
At this point, I am more worried about UN-official ICS, official be damned. (Again, I am repeating, Wildfire didn't get official Gingerbread, so I honestly don't know what makes us think even an iota that it will get official ICS)
Remember, the Gingerbread SDK Port DID run on the Wildfire (Jacob's GingerFire Alpha ROM), which is not the case with ICS, and arco has pretty much confirmed any attempts to have an ICS SDK port up and running are going to be futile, because the ICS SDK doesn't support the old ARMv6 CPU, period.
I completely agree with you 3xeno. The HTC Wildfire lacks GPU and the processor is too slow. So there won't be an Official ICS and probably not even an Unofficial port of ICS AOSP.
Well, even the Nexus One won't get official ICS, as Google says its hardware is too old.
Update for all - Wildfire Ice Cream Sandwich
Sorry for cross posting ... i was reading up on the same question, can wildfire work for ICS. Well good news ... someone has already started - unofficially. Its still being worked upon but seems there is hope.
Check the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355189
Officially Ice Cream Sandwich will never be on Wildfire. Its simply not viable for business. No wonder HTC didnt upgrade to Gingerbread.