I just read this and so I'm hoping we get Froyo soon too. Hopefully we will.
http://phandroid.com/2010/06/22/htc...-desire-and-legend-within-the-next-two-weeks/
Would be awesome if true but why in the world isn't the Evo mentioned
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Would be awesome if true but why in the world isn't the Evo mentioned
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I don't know but I hope we get it.maybe that's why google is updating all their apps. Google maps is also getting a update.
Sent from my Sprint Evo
We should definitely be getting it on the EVO... the only question is how soon???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY3U2GXhz44
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Desire and Legend do not have Sense UI, which means it's a straightforward port.
If you've played with any of the 2.1 ROMs with JIT you would know that JIT does not work with Sense. Froyo - JIT = FAIL. Thus a froyo port for sense devices could be a little further away than you would hope.
Just wait for the evo kernel source to be released and we will have a complete badass froyo rom for evo, minus the sense (which I've learned to live without already.)
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the Desire and Legend do not have Sense UI, which means it's a straightforward port.
If you've played with any of the 2.1 ROMs with JIT you would know that JIT does not work with Sense. Froyo - JIT = FAIL. Thus a froyo port for sense devices could be a little further away than you would hope.
Just wait for the evo kernel source to be released and we will have a complete badass froyo rom for evo, minus the sense (which I've learned to live without already.)
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Correction....the Desire and Legend do have the SenseUI. The Nexus is stock, Vanilla Android.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the Desire and Legend do not have Sense UI, which means it's a straightforward port.
If you've played with any of the 2.1 ROMs with JIT you would know that JIT does not work with Sense. Froyo - JIT = FAIL. Thus a froyo port for sense devices could be a little further away than you would hope.
Just wait for the evo kernel source to be released and we will have a complete badass froyo rom for evo, minus the sense (which I've learned to live without already.)
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Both Desire and Legend are running on Sense UI. The Only HTC (Android) device that I know that doesn't run on Sense is The Nexus One.
The key is the Desire and Legend aren't locked to carriers, and don't have to go through the US carrier dance whenever they want to release an update.
If you read the article and then jump to the Adobe announcement..."explicitly mentioned several devices that will be getting Android 2.2 sometime down the line to take advantage of Flash Mobile 10.1 (it will be heading out of beta and into a final release the moment Froyo is available). The Google Nexus One, HTC Desire, HTC EVO 4G, Motorola Droid/Milestone, and the HTC Droid Incredible are all of the obvious candidates they mentioned,"
My hunch is that we will see 2.2 drop with some fixes for things seen in the first release of the EVO (30 fps, screen capacitance, etc.). If that's true, we will see 2.2 sooner rather than later.
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If you read the article and then jump to the Adobe announcement..."explicitly mentioned several devices that will be getting Android 2.2 sometime down the line to take advantage of Flash Mobile 10.1 (it will be heading out of beta and into a final release the moment Froyo is available). The Google Nexus One, HTC Desire, HTC EVO 4G, Motorola Droid/Milestone, and the HTC Droid Incredible are all of the obvious candidates they mentioned,"
My hunch is that we will see 2.2 drop with some fixes for things seen in the first release of the EVO (30 fps, screen capacitance, etc.). If that's true, we will see 2.2 sooner rather than later.
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That would be a very beautiful thing if you are right. They would be killing multiple birds with one stone then. Almost seems to logical for htc and sprint though so i doubt this will be the case
Things needed for a fully working Froyo Build on the EVO
1 2.6.32 kernel source with drivers for the EVO. (Not Available)
2 Evo Vendor Files needed for Froyo source (Not Available)
3 Froyo Source
pixelpop said:
If you read the article and then jump to the Adobe announcement..."explicitly mentioned several devices that will be getting Android 2.2 sometime down the line to take advantage of Flash Mobile 10.1 (it will be heading out of beta and into a final release the moment Froyo is available). The Google Nexus One, HTC Desire, HTC EVO 4G, Motorola Droid/Milestone, and the HTC Droid Incredible are all of the obvious candidates they mentioned,"
My hunch is that we will see 2.2 drop with some fixes for things seen in the first release of the EVO (30 fps, screen capacitance, etc.). If that's true, we will see 2.2 sooner rather than later.
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HTC has said that the 30fps issue is hardware related and will not be fixed, so if it somehow gets magically fixed the same time they push Froyo I will be ecstatic.
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HTC has said that the 30fps issue is hardware related and will not be fixed, so if it somehow gets magically fixed the same time they push Froyo I will be ecstatic.
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If the LCD is running off of the MDDI interface, there is no way to fix it. MDDI 1.1 has a 30hz limitation. End of story.
Doesn't it stand to reason that HTC must at least wait for google to finish Froyo before HTC can release it? Perhaps HTC is able to begin designing their Sense UI while awaiting a final build of Froyo, but I doubt they'd release 2.2 for their devices based upon a beta-build of Froyo.
I certainly hope that we see an official HTC Froyo release asap, though once it's available I will wait to see what the XDA community is able to do to preserve root, and eagerly await some optimized ROMs based on an official release of Froyo.
In the meantime, I love my Evo and am enjoying it thoroughly. I just wish we'd get some 4G down here in the big-easy.
Battery issues aside, I picked up one of the chinese battery/charger bundles on ebay for $11 shipped. I don't mind carrying 2 spare (albeit, probably lower mAH) batteries for extended weekend excursions.
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Both Desire and Legend are running on Sense UI. The Only HTC (Android) device that I know that doesn't run on Sense is The Nexus One.
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G1/Dream
MyTouch 3G/Sapphire/Magic/Ion/etc...
There are more than just the N1.
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Will we Legend get Android 2.2 (Froyo) update?
Here are the platform highlights. very good improvements
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html
Latest news from HTC (thanks to Iryia ) :
Iryia said:
Hi guys,
I just received a reply from HTC..
"Good Morning Thank you for contacting HTC At the moment we dont have official date of the relase for the new update but it is suitable for your device and soon or later it will be relased for Legend Regards Piotr HTC "
At least some good news..
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Yes, we will, its just a question of when!
HTC will have to apply their 'modifications' to it, i.e. Sense.
Then if yours is network branded, you have to wait until your network make it available to you, after they've made their changes!
Unless of course you've rooted, which case you should be able to apply a fresh ROM whenever it is made available.
I believe the above is correct, am sure someone will correct me if needed.
What I'm wondering is will FROYO make a different to the speed of the Legend? There are many reports online about how FROYO will make the Nexus One and Desire up to 300% faster due to the JIT Compiler (and other stuff?) ...but is this potential speed benefit applicable to the Legend?
I really really hope so...
c_man said:
Yes, we will, its just a question of when!
HTC will have to apply their 'modifications' to it, i.e. Sense.
Then if yours is network branded, you have to wait until your network make it available to you, after they've made their changes!
Unless of course you've rooted, which case you should be able to apply a fresh ROM whenever it is made available.
I believe the above is correct, am sure someone will correct me if needed.
What I'm wondering is will FROYO make a different to the speed of the Legend? There are many reports online about how FROYO will make the Nexus One and Desire up to 300% faster due to the JIT Compiler (and other stuff?) ...but is this potential speed benefit applicable to the Legend?
I really really hope so...
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HTC LEGEND is not getting 2.2 Update in 2010.
Source -->>URL product-reviews.net/2010/05/21/android-2-2-froyo-no-update-to-htc-hero-legend-and-droid-eris-phones
Following on from our previous article, which informed you about HTC’s plans to update their smartphones to the latest version of Android OS (2.2 Froyo), it seems that HTC deliberately left a few handset names off their initial upgrade list.
HTC issued a fresh statement, in which they detailed a few handsets that will be receiving the update to Android 2.2 first. These included the HTC Incredible, MyTouch 3G, HTC Desire and the HTC EVO 4G smartphone.
Does this mean that handsets such as the HTC Hero, Legend and Droid Eris will not be getting the update to 2.2 Froyo? We can understand the Hero and Droid Eris not being included on the list, since they were released a while ago now, but what about the HTC Legend?
The Legend was available after the HTC Desire, so it seems slightly odd that the statement from HTC didn’t include the handset on the list. Maybe it was just a bad choice of wording. Hopefully HTC will clear this up for us soon – we’ll update you when we can.
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HTC Legend probably get Android 2.2 (FROYO) update because is launched this year,see here:
http://www.androidcentral.com/most-2010-htc-android-phones-will-get-froyo-2010
I really hope it does get updated, the whole reason I upgraded to legend and not desire was A. the industrial design of the phone, and B. sick of waiting around for 2.1 GSM hero update so gave the hero to GF.
Even after this statement im seeing a pattern here with HTC not clearly being able to state weather or not brand new phones will receive an update, or hell even when (2nd half of 2010 can mean December). If it does turn out our Legends dont get 2.2 I'm gonna stick with vanilla android experience on an unlocked N1, or hopefully N2.
I dont think that HTC will update Legend to 2.2.
Considering its RAM and processor Legend is behind from N1 and Desire or incredible.
Even i have Legend and its utterly dissapointing from the side of HTC to ignore such a high profile handset from new update.I ll never buy any handset from HTC now onwards.
F*** u HTC......
Froyo for Legend
I bought the legend some time ago. It would be a major dissappointment if HTC doesn`t create an update for it...let`s be realistic the amount of work they have to do once they change stuff to work on the Desire should be fairly minimal. Also I don`t think that the HW of Legend is not good enough to run Froyo (from what I`ve heart all devices should see a performance boost and the ROM itself should be smaller). Anyway we`ll see how it goes ). Worst case is that everybody will root their legends and flash it over and over again with unstable roms until it becomes an aluminium brick going back to HTC for replacement )
tbh if the mytouch slide is getting update i see no reason why they shouldn't update the legend either
the my touch has :
320x480 screen
600mhz cpu (same as legend i believe)
387mb ram
512mb rom
so spec wise its very similar to legend so its got nothing to do with the lack of snapdragon or screen res.
and tbh all devices even 1st gen should get an update for 1 very big reason JIT!
it will make everything faster.
really there is no reason not to update the legend
if all of us email them they might give an update let the legend 2.2 outcry begin!
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tbh if the mytouch slide is getting update i see no reason why they shouldn't update the legend either
the my touch has :
320x480 screen
600mhz cpu (same as legend i believe)
387mb ram
512mb rom
so spec wise its very similar to legend so its got nothing to do with the lack of snapdragon or screen res.
and tbh all devices even 1st gen should get an update for 1 very big reason JIT!
it will make everything faster.
really there is no reason not to update the legend
if all of us email them they might give an update let the legend 2.2 outcry begin!
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However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.
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However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.
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why should the sense version matter ? either way they have to update sense on all the models to support the new 2.2 features for example why not just resize the desire one which is essentially the same as the legend minus the live wallpaper support
either way im sure 2.2 will popup in other non official roms
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However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.
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people forget about the specs these are not comparable to win xp & then vista & then win 7, these are not resource hungry, I reckon its handset selling gimmicks of HTC, i have fallen victim to it; i have sold my hero & bought LEGEND; now i suppose history is going to repeat itself on legend. this time wait is going to be for FROYO.
New article found now:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/33238/htc-phones-android-os-updates
i think we have update
Pff I bought the Legend in stead of the desire because I thought it would have better support on forums and from HTC (since it was the succesor to Hero) bad mistake, really hope we get the update, but I'm not really counting on it.
There is no reason why Legend shouldn't get the update...the specs are surelly enought. No need to panic guys....i mean even if there will be no official rom with 2.2 rom (which i trully doubt) there will be plenty of rooted roms available.
Let's just wait and see.
just wait n watch what HTC does. If they release 2.2 for Legend then is well gud otherwise HTC will loose its credibility..........
Update to froyo for htc legend is clearly 100% sure come on guys! It's sure because it's a phone tha has 2-3 months of life! It's sure htc will update it. The problem is when...even if I don't understand where is the difficulty to upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2, it seems very simple, in fact google will update n1 in the next 2 weeks...I don't think the senseUI is so hard to update, considering that this upgrade is not revolutionary! The very cool features of froyo are simple to add to a device working on 2.1. So HTC move your ass and make this upgrade available for max september. If we will not have the upgrade for september will be really bad for a company like HTC that wants to fight against apple. So please make your engineers work hard to give us this upgrade quickly, considering it's also quite simple to do it.
you are absolutely right mate. legend has the power to run it. also Froyo has been built for more speed and stability. So unless HTC dont want to upgrade it for its marketing reasons, we ll have Froyo running on our legends.
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you are absolutely right mate. legend has the power to run it. also Froyo has been built for more speed and stability. So unless HTC dont want to upgrade it for its marketing reasons, we ll have Froyo running on our legends.
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I had a diamond 2 before the legend, and ii OS was windows mobile 6.1. HTC made available the 6.5 upgrade for free, so I can't imagine this time will do different. So it's only matter of time, and we all hope max 2-3 months from now it's enough.
Froyo (pre-rooted) out for the Nexus
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686631
This german article says:
Legend will get the 2.2 update.
"in the second half 2010"
Does anyone has a clue about when Froyo will be available for Aria?
I'm not holding my breath for update from AT&T!
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I'm not holding my breath for update from AT&T!
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I am hoping we'll be able to port the Legend Rom with a great deal of success once it is available. I will be looking into an unbranded 2.1 Legend ROM port for the Aria next.
eh it was just released... wouldn't expect to hear about a 2.2 release for at least a few months probably more.
Froyo hasn't even been officially released yet. after that, HTC will need to port SenseUi for it. HTC did say all 2.1 devices released this year should expect a 2.2 update.
Probably not until AT&T figures out how to remove tethering from it.
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Froyo hasn't even been officially released yet. after that, HTC will need to port SenseUi for it. HTC did say all 2.1 devices released this year should expect a 2.2 update.
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As saint168 said, I wouldn't hold your breath. What will happen is HTC will say "we expect a Froyo update for the Aria by Christmas!" and then the day before Christmas they will say "We expect a Froyo update for the Aria by the end of February!" and then we won't see an update except in Taiwan in June.
I am going by the official Eclair update for the GSM Hero of course.
attn1 brought up a factor, as most likely we will be seeing mostly stable 2.2 Roms within the next six months or so for the Aria that will probably make the frustrations of any promised official update increase.
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Probably not until AT&T figures out how to remove tethering from it.
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Or perhaps not remove it outright, but to figure out how to make it billable to the tune of extra $20 per month on top of "DataPro" data plan, as they've done it with iPhone 4/iOS4.
Android 2.2 Froyo will definitely for Aria but i don't count on AT&T. I want a clean Froyo and not At&T B.S. in there
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Android 2.2 Froyo will definitely for Aria but i don't count on AT&T. I want a clean Froyo and not At&T B.S. in there
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cyanogen has said he's porting to the MT3GS, which is nearly identical to the Aria. That WILL be ported to the Aria.
AOSP Froyo 2.2 - cyanogen style. Everyone and their all their brothers will be taking a crack at that port - including me.
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cyanogen has said he's porting to the MT3GS, which is nearly identical to the Aria. That WILL be ported to the Aria.
AOSP Froyo 2.2 - cyanogen style. Everyone and their all their brothers will be taking a crack at that port - including me.
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Will this be a dump of the official update for the MT3GS or is there a port that's being used. Also, if this is a pre-existing port then what kind of features should we expect to not work by the time it hits Aria (like camera, 3D acceleration, gps, and sound)?
By the way ... my Aria is now in my state so hopefully will be playing with it in an hour or two.
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Will this be a dump of the official update for the MT3GS or is there a port that's being used. Also, if this is a pre-existing port then what kind of features should we expect to not work by the time it hits Aria (like camera, 3D acceleration, gps, and sound)?
By the way ... my Aria is now in my state so hopefully will be playing with it in an hour or two.
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The MT3GS and Aria are very closely related. HTC does not do AOSP roms - they add their proprietary HTC sense stuff. If you want that, it will take some time for HTC to release a stable version for either the MT3GS or the Aria.
AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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The MT3GS and Aria are very closely related. HTC does not do AOSP roms - they add their proprietary HTC sense stuff. If you want that, it will take some time for HTC to release a stable version for either the MT3GS or the Aria.
AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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Man this is like night and day coming from the Xandroid community (new android features seem to take months to develop).
I too prefer AOSP which I used on the Xandroid builds (tested on my Pure) and I had Launcher Pro installed which I think is LEAGUES better than Sense.
I'm extremely excited to learn more about flashing android roms. Don't know anything about it yet but I saw Aria's already been rooted.
I do appreciate the WVGA of the Pure but this Aria really isn't THAT different in quality (seems more colorful though). Gotta get a screen protector from AT&T ... will have to wade through crowds of iPhone sheep no doubt.
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AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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When you say ported, does that mean I can rewrite my phone replacing Sense? Because I don't just want to have Froyo AND Sense and just have sense disabled and hiding in the background.
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When you say ported, does that mean I can rewrite my phone replacing Sense? Because I don't just want to have Froyo AND Sense and just have sense disabled and hiding in the background.
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I think you're confusing Android 2.2 (FroYo) with HTC's user interface (Sense).
cyanogenmod is based on pure AOSP code - no Sense UI.
I just completed a port of a MyTouch3G rom to the Aria. Wifi doesn't work, and my touch keys don't work. I am sure those are simple fixes. Eugene probably has answers to some of those issues, but it stands to reason that when CM 6 is released for the MTS3G, we can begin work on a port for the Liberty (Aria).
Froyo runs... it's just a matter of someone who knows what they're doing fixing all of the drivers and a few other things.
big file here
CM6 is coming soon I think!
"release later this weekend" ... running out of time but this is exciting.
http://androidspin.com/2010/06/25/sneak-peek-at-cyanogenmod-cm6-test-build-on-g1-and-nexus/
So what does the release of CM6 mean for us?
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The MT3GS and Aria are very closely related. HTC does not do AOSP roms - they add their proprietary HTC sense stuff. If you want that, it will take some time for HTC to release a stable version for either the MT3GS or the Aria.
AOSP means Android Open Source Project based - and that means no HTC Sense UI. The Nexus One runs pure AOSP, which personally, I prefer. cyanogenmods are all AOSP based, but are generally better in terms of features and performance.
cyanogenmod 6.x will be based on Android 2.2 AOSP code, and is being built and in limited testing now. It will be released for a half dozen phones almost simultaneously - and soon. Once something is working for the MT3GS, it will be a very short time before it is ported to the Aria.
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jznomoney- Read that
Sorry. Wrong thread.
So Gingerbread (2.3) is here and I wanted to be the first nagging user to ask when we are going to see the port for the Aria?
No asking for ETAs...IOW, whenever they damn well please.
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Gingerbread may be out but the source isn't so no gingerbread for you.
Good things come to those who wait just like grandma's inheritance, uh, I mean cookies.
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Good news most def.
I think Gingerbread has limitations as far as the proc goes. I think it requires a minimum of 1ghz. I could be wrong tho.
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I think Gingerbread has limitations as far as the proc goes. I think it requires a minimum of 1ghz. I could be wrong tho.
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This was a rumor a few months ago that was pretty much shot down. If you need proof, look at the G2. There's no way they would release it with an 800mhz processor if Gingerbread required 1ghz.
Yeah, you can't limit an OS because of processor clock cycle. Clock cycles in these days isn't as important as it used to be. We are in the new age of multi-core and instruction sets for optimization. Hell, look at the G1, it's running Froyo - now that's impressive!
Don't know if you guys saw this or not( http://www.xda-developers.com/android/breaking-news-gingerbread-2-3-running-on-droid-eris/ ), but punk.kaos got Gingerbread kinda working on the Eris. In terms of power the Eris is sort of a bottom feeder so if it can run on the Eris it definitely can run on the Aria. But we will have to be patient, unless someone knows how to port the source to the Aria. I am loving 6.1 right now, so I can wait for Gingerbread at the moment.
A guy got a hacked port to boot on his HTC Wildfire which is slower than the aria. No this does not mean a port will come to the aria yet.
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This was a rumor a few months ago that was pretty much shot down. If you need proof, look at the G2. There's no way they would release it with an 800mhz processor if Gingerbread required 1ghz.
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It was also assumed by many that Android 3.0 would be Gingerbread. Instead, Gingerbread is 2.3.
With 3.0, there are rumors of higher end graphics and processor requirements.
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Yeah, you can't limit an OS because of processor clock cycle. Clock cycles in these days isn't as important as it used to be. We are in the new age of multi-core and instruction sets for optimization. Hell, look at the G1, it's running Froyo - now that's impressive!
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True. It looks like Liberty/Slide/Legend will be included when CM goes to Android 2.3.
I am not sure about 3.0 though, if it's going to be targeted exclusively at larger, more powerful, higher resolution devices. Time will tell how successfully that stuff will be supported on MDPI devices it's not intended for with 1 1/2 gen processors, even with decent GPUs.
Gingerbread's already ported to Wildfire, which only has around 528 mhz. So we might get it. if someone works on it.
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Gingerbread's already ported to Wildfire, which only has around 528 mhz. So we might get it. if someone works on it.
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Trust me, it will be worked on once we get a source drop for an actual device (N1, NS)
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Trust me, it will be worked on once we get a source drop for an actual device (N1, NS)
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you haven't disappointed us thus far attn1!
keep up the good work
Hey attn1, a dev at Google tweeted on LG's page that a 1ghz processor wasnt required for gingerbread, just thought I should let you know xD
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Hey attn1, a dev at Google tweeted on LG's page that a 1ghz processor wasnt required for gingerbread, just thought I should let you know xD
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That's good news! No one knew until now!
Currently the Gingerbread ports are messy patches to the emulator system.img which happens to be for qualcomm/snapdragon type chips.
Just be patient and wait for source, anything we get before then will be hella slow and missing functionality.
Seeing as the Gratia launched with Froyo it woudln't suprise me if we get official Gingerbread at some point.
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Currently the Gingerbread ports are messy patches to the emulator system.img which happens to be for qualcomm/snapdragon type chips.
Just be patient and wait for source, anything we get before then will be hella slow and missing functionality.
Seeing as the Gratia launched with Froyo it woudln't suprise me if we get official Gingerbread at some point.
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I know I'm not going to hold my breath for an official release. Based on what I've been reading on several forums, there have been rumblings that the Aria might not see an official 2.2 (Which quite frankly I had already given up hope on).
Who knows though, perhaps AT&T and HTC decided that since it's deployment on 2.2 was so late, that they would wait until 2.3... or 2.4... 5, or 6.
Either way, thanks for everything devs, CM and Liberated are both great Froyo ROMs, and I've used both without a hitch.
I think 2.3 will come to Aria (in CM), but I will wait at least N1 got updated. (Propably N1 won't got official update for marketing issue)
Don't trust rumors about the 1GHz bla bla bla, if Gingerbread is not 3D based and lots of effects and still require 1GHz to run smoothly, I believe it's a buggy OS (based on the NS, it's just like an big update for Froyo).
tleung11 said:
I think 2.3 will come to Aria (in CM), but I will wait at least N1 got updated. (Propably N1 won't got official update for marketing issue)
Don't trust rumors about the 1GHz bla bla bla, if Gingerbread is not 3D based and lots of effects and still require 1GHz to run smoothly, I believe it's a buggy OS (based on the NS, it's just like an big update for Froyo).
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Google has already pledged that Nexus One will get Gingerbread, so no issue there.
HTC said back in the beginning of the year that any device launched in 2010 will get upgraded to Froyo, so that includes the AT&T Aria, so we'll definitely get official Froyo for that.
Whether the AT&T Aria will get Gingerbread officially is up in the air, but I'm all but certain that the Gratia will, given that it just launched with 2.2.
has anyone heard any more speculation on what phones are gonna get gingerbread?
gingerbread is being skipped and is going to be 2.4 instead of 2.3. Still named gingerbread though. This is what I heard a few weeks back. It makes sense because the Nexus S is full of problems and it's mostly on the software side. Gingerbread is nothing but a themed froyo.
There are a lot less core differences between 2.2 and 2.3 than there were between 2.1 and 2.2. I would think the manufacturers would have an easier time upgrading them and the crapware on it.
Jjday7 said:
gingerbread is being skipped and is going to be 2.4 instead of 2.3. Still named gingerbread though. This is what I heard a few weeks back. It makes sense because the Nexus S is full of problems and it's mostly on the software side. Gingerbread is nothing but a themed froyo.
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Incorrect. There are other phones getting Android 2.3 besides the Nexus S; the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play is, for example. Gingerbread has made quite a few changes to the underlying code & add many nice APIs for app developers to it.
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Incorrect. There are other phones getting Android 2.3 besides the Nexus S; the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play is, for example. Gingerbread has made quite a few changes to the underlying code & add many nice APIs for app developers to it.
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True, but, don't know if you noticed that the Nexus One has yet to get an OTA Gingerbread OTA. There's a reason for that. The random rebooting issue could be to blame - but Google for Froyo (such a huge, huge change from 2.1 Eclair) pushed it out to Nexus One users like 2 weeks after announcing it. Huge. Quick.
Gingerbread will probably not come to existing devices. 2.4 (whether it is Ice Cream Sandwich or Gingerbread - who knows/cares) will probably be pushed out first. Don't expect any incremental updates to any existing device yet.
The reason the Xperia Play has 2.3 is because it's out in the AOSP and Sony Ericsson is just choosing to deploy the 2.3 code instead of 2.2. They have the right timeframe and want their device to appeal to the hardcore geeks.
Anyhow, no Gingerbread - especially not for the EVO 4G Shift anytime soon.
I'm hoping for updates to the Shift, i just got it, but i hate knowing there is a newer version somewhere lol
I hate knowing that I got gingerbread working on a 4 year old Windows Mobile phone (HTC Touch/Vogue) and yet it's not officially available for the Evo Shift. I may go AOSP in the future.
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NuAngel said:
I hate knowing that I got gingerbread working on a 4 year old Windows Mobile phone (HTC Touch/Vogue) and yet it's not officially available for the Evo Shift. I may go AOSP in the future.
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AOSP is where it's at.
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Edit: man I'm drunk. That took forever to type.
Noob question: What exactly is aosp and are there any pros as far as roms go?
Sent from my Evo Shift.
Aosp is android open source project, check out the cyanogen/evervolv roms and that's what aosp is
Waht is AOSP
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Noob question: What exactly is aosp and are there any pros as far as roms go?
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AOSP is default open source Android. Every manufacturer puts on their own overlay for HTC it is Sense and Motorola is Moto Blur. When you put an AOSP ROM on your phone it will be default android which is normally more efficient and more bare bones. For instance when you might not have all the functionality that you had with your stock setup. Personally I like how in Sense when I have my Google contacts set up in groups Sense se that and carries those groups over to my phone. When I put the evervolve or CM7 on my phone to test it out I lost that.
I don't know all the things that are different with an AOSP ROM but here are the things I have seen:
Contacts
Messaging app
Home Screen
Now I know there are more programs that are operate in the background that are included (just run titanium backup and look at all the ones that start with HTC) but I don't know what they do for the most part.
Also AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project.
I think I'll wait for a stable sense ROM to try gingerbread. I'm pretty sure I tried a bare bones ROM when I rooted my cliq and didn't like it. Definitely like having everything sync'd like contacts and such. Has anyone come up with something spectacular for a modded or themed stock ROM? Guess I could just go look...
Thanks everyone for the help. Really appreciate it.
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Found this in Phandroid.... http://phandroid.com/2011/02/17/coming-this-spring-android-2-3-for-the-htc-desire/
No announcement for Legend though.
w00t! Desire gets Gingerbread! Can't wait for it to come out!
dont ...
don't hold your breath for the improvements it's not really worth it especially for htc
download the 2.3 keyboard and you got 1/3 of the update
as 2.3 is mainly NFC support(dosnt apply) new keyboard(i person like htc's better cuz of the content text prediction) and improved copy and past
getan said:
w00t! Desire gets Gingerbread! Can't wait for it to come out!
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Without a Legend S, I don't see much hope for a Ginger upgrade.
Not gonna happen.
nxdu said:
Without a Legend S, I don't see much hope for a Ginger upgrade.
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I don't understand HTC... First what does that mean to use the same name of their concurrents for their new phones ??? Desire "S" ? wildfire "S" ?
serioulsy, are they thinking that people will buy their phone cause they thing of the SGS or the NS ?
Second, a new desire, a new wildfire, and no new Legend ? WTF ? It's the best design they got among their phones, and they still do some crappy plastic phone (ok it's a bit strong, not crappy).
A new Legend, more slim, maybe a bit bigger screen, new proc but still in one piece of aluminium and here we go, they would have sell that more than they will sell the wildfire "S" !
Anyway, the gingerbread roms will be available soon for Legend. There is CM7 RC, and when the wildfire S come out, some SENSE ROM will for sure be released...
Thanks to the the great developers we have the chance to have in the community !! Thx you all.
i think that Legend update will be announced... for me it about 85%
maybe after this spring
You remember how long it took HTC to announce an update to FroYo (It was about half a year after Google announced 2.2)
So if HTC will update the Legend to 2.3 it will probably be summer before they release it.
heard that a lot of devs don't think 2.3 is worth the R&D, so are waiting for 2.4.
The desire out sold the legend 10 fold on release this forum is bearly alive compared to the desire's. The wildfire sold like hot cakes because of the price so unless they priced the legend at £250-£275 it would fail just like this 1 did.
Don't get me wrong I would like to see a legend s but look at it from a marketing point of view an you will see why it makes no sense at all.
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I think that 2.3.2 is a big possibility for Legend, why you ask?
Well it is simple. Wildfire S is almost a clone of legend (600mhz, 3.2" and 480x320 screen) so the software will probably be easy to port over to Legend.
now the problem is operators. Do they rather want us to buy a new handset or upgrade.
yup... Agreed, the Legend forum is barely alive. There is only 2 almost perfected rom that is available. Unlike the desire forum, there's lots of goodies there =(
IMHO, update the htc legend to 2.3 (2.4 too) will not be.
Sorry for my english, please.
If we get 2.3 it will be down to the great devs here on xda not HTC. 2.3 was out before HTC released froyo for the legend so not much chance of them bothering.
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Why make these claims? They could very well turn round and give us a special release of 2.3 with the new Sense for the special 'few' who got the Legend, ya just never know!
My view is simple: Wait and see, and not make claims about us not getting 2.3. How many of you would still use 2.3 and HTC Sense? Most of us here are running custom ROM's anyway which don't use Sense....
Just saying...
FeaRThiS said:
If we get 2.3 it will be down to the great devs here on xda not HTC. 2.3 was out before HTC released froyo for the legend so not much chance of them bothering.
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Not for Voda Legends
For those who're desperate to try out 2.3 and have rooted their Legends and are also capable of flashing a ROM, you can of course try out the CyanogenMod 7 nightlies. They're based on 2.3 unless I'm grossly misinformed.
When CM7 is finished, I may well give it a try, provided it's not a giant clusterbuck of a mess compared to blay0's ROMs...
I just want the new notification drop down down menu and the re arrangeable home screens from the new sense ..
segphault said:
For those who're desperate to try out 2.3 and haveve rooted their Legends and are also capable of flashing a ROM, you can of course try out the CyanogenMod 7 nightlies. They're based on 2.3 unless I'm grossly misinformed.
When CM7 is finished, I may well give it a try, provided it's not a giant clusterbuck of a mess compared to blay0's ROMs...
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I'm running CM7 full 3 (oh, full 4's out) with the radio upgrade from the dev forums, and it's pure awsome. gingerbread googness. battery life and speed are off the charts.
blayo's rom is very good, but i gotta say CM7's... gingerbread.
you'll loose flash lite, but the novelty wore off quickly for me.
lets be honest, it's pants.
new HTC Legend user
Hi, I have a new HTC Legend and i have read your posts, so i know that i can´t upgrade to 2.3. But if i want install some small aplications i need do something like hack software like in a NOKIA devices??
I would like some help.
Thanks