Will we Legend get Android 2.2 (Froyo) update?
Here are the platform highlights. very good improvements
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html
Latest news from HTC (thanks to Iryia ) :
Iryia said:
Hi guys,
I just received a reply from HTC..
"Good Morning Thank you for contacting HTC At the moment we dont have official date of the relase for the new update but it is suitable for your device and soon or later it will be relased for Legend Regards Piotr HTC "
At least some good news..
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Yes, we will, its just a question of when!
HTC will have to apply their 'modifications' to it, i.e. Sense.
Then if yours is network branded, you have to wait until your network make it available to you, after they've made their changes!
Unless of course you've rooted, which case you should be able to apply a fresh ROM whenever it is made available.
I believe the above is correct, am sure someone will correct me if needed.
What I'm wondering is will FROYO make a different to the speed of the Legend? There are many reports online about how FROYO will make the Nexus One and Desire up to 300% faster due to the JIT Compiler (and other stuff?) ...but is this potential speed benefit applicable to the Legend?
I really really hope so...
c_man said:
Yes, we will, its just a question of when!
HTC will have to apply their 'modifications' to it, i.e. Sense.
Then if yours is network branded, you have to wait until your network make it available to you, after they've made their changes!
Unless of course you've rooted, which case you should be able to apply a fresh ROM whenever it is made available.
I believe the above is correct, am sure someone will correct me if needed.
What I'm wondering is will FROYO make a different to the speed of the Legend? There are many reports online about how FROYO will make the Nexus One and Desire up to 300% faster due to the JIT Compiler (and other stuff?) ...but is this potential speed benefit applicable to the Legend?
I really really hope so...
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HTC LEGEND is not getting 2.2 Update in 2010.
Source -->>URL product-reviews.net/2010/05/21/android-2-2-froyo-no-update-to-htc-hero-legend-and-droid-eris-phones
Following on from our previous article, which informed you about HTC’s plans to update their smartphones to the latest version of Android OS (2.2 Froyo), it seems that HTC deliberately left a few handset names off their initial upgrade list.
HTC issued a fresh statement, in which they detailed a few handsets that will be receiving the update to Android 2.2 first. These included the HTC Incredible, MyTouch 3G, HTC Desire and the HTC EVO 4G smartphone.
Does this mean that handsets such as the HTC Hero, Legend and Droid Eris will not be getting the update to 2.2 Froyo? We can understand the Hero and Droid Eris not being included on the list, since they were released a while ago now, but what about the HTC Legend?
The Legend was available after the HTC Desire, so it seems slightly odd that the statement from HTC didn’t include the handset on the list. Maybe it was just a bad choice of wording. Hopefully HTC will clear this up for us soon – we’ll update you when we can.
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HTC Legend probably get Android 2.2 (FROYO) update because is launched this year,see here:
http://www.androidcentral.com/most-2010-htc-android-phones-will-get-froyo-2010
I really hope it does get updated, the whole reason I upgraded to legend and not desire was A. the industrial design of the phone, and B. sick of waiting around for 2.1 GSM hero update so gave the hero to GF.
Even after this statement im seeing a pattern here with HTC not clearly being able to state weather or not brand new phones will receive an update, or hell even when (2nd half of 2010 can mean December). If it does turn out our Legends dont get 2.2 I'm gonna stick with vanilla android experience on an unlocked N1, or hopefully N2.
I dont think that HTC will update Legend to 2.2.
Considering its RAM and processor Legend is behind from N1 and Desire or incredible.
Even i have Legend and its utterly dissapointing from the side of HTC to ignore such a high profile handset from new update.I ll never buy any handset from HTC now onwards.
F*** u HTC......
Froyo for Legend
I bought the legend some time ago. It would be a major dissappointment if HTC doesn`t create an update for it...let`s be realistic the amount of work they have to do once they change stuff to work on the Desire should be fairly minimal. Also I don`t think that the HW of Legend is not good enough to run Froyo (from what I`ve heart all devices should see a performance boost and the ROM itself should be smaller). Anyway we`ll see how it goes ). Worst case is that everybody will root their legends and flash it over and over again with unstable roms until it becomes an aluminium brick going back to HTC for replacement )
tbh if the mytouch slide is getting update i see no reason why they shouldn't update the legend either
the my touch has :
320x480 screen
600mhz cpu (same as legend i believe)
387mb ram
512mb rom
so spec wise its very similar to legend so its got nothing to do with the lack of snapdragon or screen res.
and tbh all devices even 1st gen should get an update for 1 very big reason JIT!
it will make everything faster.
really there is no reason not to update the legend
if all of us email them they might give an update let the legend 2.2 outcry begin!
noobdeagle said:
tbh if the mytouch slide is getting update i see no reason why they shouldn't update the legend either
the my touch has :
320x480 screen
600mhz cpu (same as legend i believe)
387mb ram
512mb rom
so spec wise its very similar to legend so its got nothing to do with the lack of snapdragon or screen res.
and tbh all devices even 1st gen should get an update for 1 very big reason JIT!
it will make everything faster.
really there is no reason not to update the legend
if all of us email them they might give an update let the legend 2.2 outcry begin!
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However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.
Ace42 said:
However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.
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why should the sense version matter ? either way they have to update sense on all the models to support the new 2.2 features for example why not just resize the desire one which is essentially the same as the legend minus the live wallpaper support
either way im sure 2.2 will popup in other non official roms
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However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.
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people forget about the specs these are not comparable to win xp & then vista & then win 7, these are not resource hungry, I reckon its handset selling gimmicks of HTC, i have fallen victim to it; i have sold my hero & bought LEGEND; now i suppose history is going to repeat itself on legend. this time wait is going to be for FROYO.
New article found now:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/33238/htc-phones-android-os-updates
i think we have update
Pff I bought the Legend in stead of the desire because I thought it would have better support on forums and from HTC (since it was the succesor to Hero) bad mistake, really hope we get the update, but I'm not really counting on it.
There is no reason why Legend shouldn't get the update...the specs are surelly enought. No need to panic guys....i mean even if there will be no official rom with 2.2 rom (which i trully doubt) there will be plenty of rooted roms available.
Let's just wait and see.
just wait n watch what HTC does. If they release 2.2 for Legend then is well gud otherwise HTC will loose its credibility..........
Update to froyo for htc legend is clearly 100% sure come on guys! It's sure because it's a phone tha has 2-3 months of life! It's sure htc will update it. The problem is when...even if I don't understand where is the difficulty to upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2, it seems very simple, in fact google will update n1 in the next 2 weeks...I don't think the senseUI is so hard to update, considering that this upgrade is not revolutionary! The very cool features of froyo are simple to add to a device working on 2.1. So HTC move your ass and make this upgrade available for max september. If we will not have the upgrade for september will be really bad for a company like HTC that wants to fight against apple. So please make your engineers work hard to give us this upgrade quickly, considering it's also quite simple to do it.
you are absolutely right mate. legend has the power to run it. also Froyo has been built for more speed and stability. So unless HTC dont want to upgrade it for its marketing reasons, we ll have Froyo running on our legends.
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you are absolutely right mate. legend has the power to run it. also Froyo has been built for more speed and stability. So unless HTC dont want to upgrade it for its marketing reasons, we ll have Froyo running on our legends.
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I had a diamond 2 before the legend, and ii OS was windows mobile 6.1. HTC made available the 6.5 upgrade for free, so I can't imagine this time will do different. So it's only matter of time, and we all hope max 2-3 months from now it's enough.
Froyo (pre-rooted) out for the Nexus
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686631
This german article says:
Legend will get the 2.2 update.
"in the second half 2010"
Related
lots of apps can not run on the 1.5 rom,1.6 rom does not support HSDPA well, meanwhile there is no such official annoucement can confirm whether the magic will be updated to 2.1 or hell not!!!
what the ...!!!
Rogers has long time ago told that their 32A is going to get the 2.1 treatment by mid-summer, and that should quickly give all other rootede 32A an B's the same
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Rogers has long time ago told that their 32A is going to get the 2.1 treatment by mid-summer, and that should quickly give all other rootede 32A an B's the same
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Means if Rogers keep his words, it will be only two months to wait? But how can that happen? HTC always tell us that have no plan to upgrade the magic...
xyq105113 said:
Means if Rogers keep his words, it will be only two months to wait? But how can that happen? HTC always tell us that have no plan to upgrade the magic...
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That's wrong.
xyq105113 said:
Means if Rogers keep his words, it will be only two months to wait? But how can that happen? HTC always tell us that have no plan to upgrade the magic...
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Link me to where you see that. I've never heard of that. If it's assumptions, then stop it.
View attachment 300094words in red block mean:"Google had confirmed hero will upgrade to 2.1, but there is no such plan for magic, sorry
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View attachment 300094words in red block mean:"Google had confirmed hero will upgrade to 2.1, but there is no such plan for magic, sorry
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Wrong Again.
http://twitter.com/htc/status/9309192395
Straight from HTC
@xyq105113: Please get your facts straight and your charm polished.
First of all: if you never been promised a 2.1 update for your magic i don't see what this complain is about. What will be next? That you want the 3.0 as soon as that will be released. You can't expect that old hardware will support or get updated software just be happy if you do.
Another thing is: welcome to xda developers who actually makes this update possible for you already unless you got an unhacked spl. If that's your problem then maybe a little research before buying or updating official software would have been a good idea.
My guess is that since HTC already announced update for the Hero and for the Rogers magic it will most probably come to all non-google branded magics.
But again i don't get why everyone got that attitude cause they haven't got any updates for their older mobiles.
There is several reasons for not giving updates to everyone.
1) More sales.
2) Less work making new drivers
3) Less support cases cause of people who can't figure out how to update.
4) Less phone replaced cause of people ****ing up under update.
5) Did i mention more sales ?
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@xyq105113: Please get your facts straight and your charm polished.
First of all: if you never been promised a 2.1 update for your magic i don't see what this complain is about. What will be next? That you want the 3.0 as soon as that will be released. You can't expect that old hardware will support or get updated software just be happy if you do.
Another thing is: welcome to xda developers who actually makes this update possible for you already unless you got an unhacked spl. If that's your problem then maybe a little research before buying or updating official software would have been a good idea.
My guess is that since HTC already announced update for the Hero and for the Rogers magic it will most probably come to all non-google branded magics.
But again i don't get why everyone got that attitude cause they haven't got any updates for their older mobiles.
There is several reasons for not giving updates to everyone.
1) More sales.
2) Less work making new drivers
3) Less support cases cause of people who can't figure out how to update.
4) Less phone replaced cause of people ****ing up under update.
5) Did i mention more sales ?
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thank u for explaining, but there are still several bugs in those roms, right?
Plus since magic been published did htc ever update our magic once? Even Tatto have its 1.6 sense UI rom, why not update our magic, due to magic is still for sell, it seems no reason not to update magic. What I want is just a official 2.1 rom for my magic after this long time since 2.1 been published.
P.S. I do not consider my magic as a too old hardware to be updated, my BB 8320 still get new roms........
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thank u for explaining, but there are still several bugs in those roms, right?
Plus since magic been published did htc ever update our magic once? Even Tatto have its 1.6 sense UI rom, why not update our magic, due to magic is still for sell, it seems no reason not to update magic. What I want is just a official 2.1 rom for my magic after this long time since 2.1 been published.
P.S. I do not consider my magic as a too old hardware to be updated, my BB 8320 still get new roms........
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Many countries got an update for their magic just not an android update but update with Sense and Android market for those without. Think we all would love an official update with the new Sense and Android 2.1 for easy rom cooking to Magic. But i would think twice before updating the RUU if it comes, cause it might be impossible for root it for a while after if it will ever be possible after that update. I wouldn't consider it old yet either and hoping for the update as well. But i'm just happy that i got xda where i can get most of the things i need. But the mobile industry is moving really fast at the moment and i think that HTC decided to put focus on getting market share instead of pleasing their existing customers. Then we can discuss what the smartest move is in this case, but somehow i think HTC know what they are doing at the moment. But again i actually think that non-google branded HTC magics might get the update now that its official that Hero and Rogers magic does, cause with that done it wont require much work to release it for the rest of us.
But maybe they wont cause of the reasons i mentioned last post for not giving us the update. For now we can only hope, and enjoy the work the developers does for us to make it possible to have a good and stable HTC sense rom running Android 2.1
http://androidandme.com/2010/01/phones/t-mobile-mytouch-3g-users-to-get-android-2-1-this-spring/ look at this
as long as i'm using 32a, regardless of any carrier, will i be able to use that official rom on any htc magic 32a?
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/02/...ive-android-2-1-but-some-will-require-a-wipe/
All US android phones to receive android 2.1.
HSPA has nothing to do with ROM version. It's a setting in build.prop. I have HSDPA and HSUPA working on Donut, as do many other people. It's on by default in CyanogenMod and probably some others.
Look in this thread for how: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595108
are we another day closer to 2.1?
Good afternoon everyone. Does the HTC Wildfire will be as desired Froyo? It would be fantastic...
So, nobody knows if the Froyo (Android 2.2) will equip the Wildfire?
As every review says, it won't. It will be 2.1 Android. And I heard some saying Froyo requires ARMv7 processor architecture and Wildfire has ARMv6. So...
And why do ya need this Froyo? So nifty features of Android 2.2?
Root it and create a custom rom with froyo (it's not realy tht simple but owell..)
with custom toms on the hero it can run froyo ad the wildfire is slightly faster than hero soo it should be able to run
Maybe...
I read about that possibility here:
The HTC Desire will be among the first batch of HTC phones to get an Android Froyo update. The Taiwanese handset slinger has confirmed that it and US phones like the HTC Droid Incredible and HTC Evo 4G are in line for the icy upgrade. But others like the HTC Legend don’t get a name check…
In an official statement HTC says: “If your phone was launched this year, we will most likely offer an upgrade for it to the Froyo version.” The statement then names the HTC Desire as among the initial chosen ones.
Other Android-packing HTC smarties like the HTC Legend and HTC Wildfire could still be in luck. The statement continues: “We will announce a full list of phones and dates once we are closer to launching the upgrades.”
The statement foes on to note that HTC is working with Google and other partners to make sure that the HTC Sense UI plays nice with Android Froyo.
The long-delayed HTC Hero Android upgrade is apparently down to the difficulties of integrating Sense so we’ve got our fingers crossed that mixing it up with Froyo is a little easier.
HTC says its hopeful that all the Android 2.2 upgrades will be completed in the second half of this year. Let us know what phone and version of Android you’re currently toting.
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http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/0...froyo-update-promised-other-phones-to-follow/
Well, Froyo is confirmed on Wildfire...:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/htc-expect-desire-legend-and-wildfire-to-get-froyo-beginning/
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Well, Froyo is confirmed on Wildfire...:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/htc-expect-desire-legend-and-wildfire-to-get-froyo-beginning/
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So true and So BEAUTIFUL!
I'm a proud htc desire owner but my girlfriend bought wildfire (in exchange for her hd mini) Terrific news tbh!
will the wilfire be getting flash 10.1?
(as now it is confirmed for froyo)
I do not have this information, but soon, I hope, someone will give the explanation.
Obelixossauro said:
I do not have this information, but soon, I hope, someone will give the explanation.
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And?...
roumor says 15 september
rolks said:
roumor says 15 september
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I Wish...
I Wish...
Have read this indeed as date for Virgin UK customers.....for sure they will not update every-body at same time......
Will get my Wildfire coming Monday 13th......curious if it has the upgrade already...
i have a xperia x10 but bought a wildfire yesterday to play with, i must admit i like it more than the x10. this has MT and flash support on the browser.
Cant wait for CM6 or ota 2.2
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I wish they would hurry the **** with it tbh...
Frank C said:
Have read this indeed as date for Virgin UK customers.....for sure they will not update every-body at same time......
Will get my Wildfire coming Monday 13th......curious if it has the upgrade already...
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Still no Froyo
wish they'd hurry the fack up
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Still no Froyo
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Found this in Phandroid.... http://phandroid.com/2011/02/17/coming-this-spring-android-2-3-for-the-htc-desire/
No announcement for Legend though.
w00t! Desire gets Gingerbread! Can't wait for it to come out!
dont ...
don't hold your breath for the improvements it's not really worth it especially for htc
download the 2.3 keyboard and you got 1/3 of the update
as 2.3 is mainly NFC support(dosnt apply) new keyboard(i person like htc's better cuz of the content text prediction) and improved copy and past
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w00t! Desire gets Gingerbread! Can't wait for it to come out!
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Without a Legend S, I don't see much hope for a Ginger upgrade.
Not gonna happen.
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Without a Legend S, I don't see much hope for a Ginger upgrade.
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I don't understand HTC... First what does that mean to use the same name of their concurrents for their new phones ??? Desire "S" ? wildfire "S" ?
serioulsy, are they thinking that people will buy their phone cause they thing of the SGS or the NS ?
Second, a new desire, a new wildfire, and no new Legend ? WTF ? It's the best design they got among their phones, and they still do some crappy plastic phone (ok it's a bit strong, not crappy).
A new Legend, more slim, maybe a bit bigger screen, new proc but still in one piece of aluminium and here we go, they would have sell that more than they will sell the wildfire "S" !
Anyway, the gingerbread roms will be available soon for Legend. There is CM7 RC, and when the wildfire S come out, some SENSE ROM will for sure be released...
Thanks to the the great developers we have the chance to have in the community !! Thx you all.
i think that Legend update will be announced... for me it about 85%
maybe after this spring
You remember how long it took HTC to announce an update to FroYo (It was about half a year after Google announced 2.2)
So if HTC will update the Legend to 2.3 it will probably be summer before they release it.
heard that a lot of devs don't think 2.3 is worth the R&D, so are waiting for 2.4.
The desire out sold the legend 10 fold on release this forum is bearly alive compared to the desire's. The wildfire sold like hot cakes because of the price so unless they priced the legend at £250-£275 it would fail just like this 1 did.
Don't get me wrong I would like to see a legend s but look at it from a marketing point of view an you will see why it makes no sense at all.
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I think that 2.3.2 is a big possibility for Legend, why you ask?
Well it is simple. Wildfire S is almost a clone of legend (600mhz, 3.2" and 480x320 screen) so the software will probably be easy to port over to Legend.
now the problem is operators. Do they rather want us to buy a new handset or upgrade.
yup... Agreed, the Legend forum is barely alive. There is only 2 almost perfected rom that is available. Unlike the desire forum, there's lots of goodies there =(
IMHO, update the htc legend to 2.3 (2.4 too) will not be.
Sorry for my english, please.
If we get 2.3 it will be down to the great devs here on xda not HTC. 2.3 was out before HTC released froyo for the legend so not much chance of them bothering.
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Why make these claims? They could very well turn round and give us a special release of 2.3 with the new Sense for the special 'few' who got the Legend, ya just never know!
My view is simple: Wait and see, and not make claims about us not getting 2.3. How many of you would still use 2.3 and HTC Sense? Most of us here are running custom ROM's anyway which don't use Sense....
Just saying...
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If we get 2.3 it will be down to the great devs here on xda not HTC. 2.3 was out before HTC released froyo for the legend so not much chance of them bothering.
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Not for Voda Legends
For those who're desperate to try out 2.3 and have rooted their Legends and are also capable of flashing a ROM, you can of course try out the CyanogenMod 7 nightlies. They're based on 2.3 unless I'm grossly misinformed.
When CM7 is finished, I may well give it a try, provided it's not a giant clusterbuck of a mess compared to blay0's ROMs...
I just want the new notification drop down down menu and the re arrangeable home screens from the new sense ..
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For those who're desperate to try out 2.3 and haveve rooted their Legends and are also capable of flashing a ROM, you can of course try out the CyanogenMod 7 nightlies. They're based on 2.3 unless I'm grossly misinformed.
When CM7 is finished, I may well give it a try, provided it's not a giant clusterbuck of a mess compared to blay0's ROMs...
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I'm running CM7 full 3 (oh, full 4's out) with the radio upgrade from the dev forums, and it's pure awsome. gingerbread googness. battery life and speed are off the charts.
blayo's rom is very good, but i gotta say CM7's... gingerbread.
you'll loose flash lite, but the novelty wore off quickly for me.
lets be honest, it's pants.
new HTC Legend user
Hi, I have a new HTC Legend and i have read your posts, so i know that i can´t upgrade to 2.3. But if i want install some small aplications i need do something like hack software like in a NOKIA devices??
I would like some help.
Thanks
Do you think HTC will have any plans to update the DHD after gingerbread?
Is it planning to backport some features of Sense 3.0?
Do you think they ever plan to support the DHD when Icecream comes out?
I know they've been pretty good to us so far, but I'm not sure about much updates after GB.... what's your opinion?
Last night i got downloaded 2.3.3. Android for my DHD, but I don't think so that they will release updates anymore
Custom is best solution, just waiting for my waranty expires, and custom ROM here we go
Sense 3.0 is for dual-core as I heard
na they most probably will make an update. On Twitter they said that some components will be given to the desire hd but not all of it ... and im guessing that going to be htc sense 2.5 or 2.2 (whatever they want to call it) but im quite positive they'll release an update since everyone got mad about it not coming to previous phones.
whether its just a sense update or a system update, i expect an update to be released
I fully expect the first official gingerbread DHD rom to be the last.
As much as I hate it, it is the same marketing strategy that all the phone manufacturers seem to employ. New features require a new phone
They all see it as money wasted as the operators are shoving phones down peoples necks at a phenomenal rate.
I am still happy after one day with ginger, so I will start thinking about this around june.
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Don't dream friends. There is too many ads, pics and reviews over web, HTC can't alter ui soo much.
krogoth said:
Don't dream friends. There is too many ads, pics and reviews over web, HTC can't alter ui soo much.
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Mate, I think they definitely can.
It's true HTC has claimed to continue their support Update-wise for DHD, their ex-flagship model, with part of sense 3.0 (EVO 3D, Sensation) but my view is that, firstly, it will take forever, not because the developers of the manufacturers are weak by any means, rather cause they will always keep delaying updates for older phones (older = 3 months old + btw, its getting ridiculous..) for marketing purposes, and secondly, it will be so minor contrary to the actual full sense 3.0, that it 'll only be a tease to enforce the need to buy the Sensation, or any model to come after that during Q3/Q4 2011.
Sad, but true.
Good news about what HTC confirmed port some components from SENSE 3.0 to DHD
Any official info about that?
What devices will not get Android 4.0?
We work hard to ensure each of our products has the optimal user experience and therefore some products will remain at their current version of Android. In general, devices with 512MB ROM or less will not be upgraded to Android 4.0. These devices include the HTC ChaCha, HTC Salsa, HTC Wildfire S, HTC Explorer, and others.
HTC tablets, including the HTC Flyer, HTC EVO View 4G, and HTC Jetstream, will remain on their current Android version (Honeycomb).
Upgrades are not the same thing as ongoing support. Devices not being upgraded to Android 4.0 will still get software improvements, security fixes, and technical support as needed.
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Source: http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
No shock there. Vision owners got their Android bump from 2.2 to 2.3, they weren't going to bother with another.
Unfortunate there was no mention of the Desire HD though, want those drivers...
Edit: Nvm, July-August! Yay.
Then how come htc desire c has ice cream sandwich???
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Excuse me but isn't ROM the internal memory meaning we qualify" Or is it actually RAM? I'm confused. ROM is non-writable so it's definately not RAM...?
Why be care so much about rom? Isn't it ram they are concerned with?
But on topic htc is making a mistake here, even if they feel sense 4.x will be too slow they could bring just an aosp ics rom in, add their bloatware and our phone should be up to par with many phones currently running stock ics, and probably better than some. The g2/dz are not dinosaurs and developers have proved the stability porting ics here, this would be a mistake especially if we don't have a g3 soon... I wouldn't ming changing to a new manufacture if this is the case...
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If this is the case:
ROM is "built-in" computer memory containing data that normally can only be read, not written to. ROM contains the programming that allows your computer to be "booted up" or regenerated each time you turn it on. Unlike a computer's random access memory (RAM), the data in ROM is not lost when the computer power is turned off. The ROM is sustained by a small long-life battery in your computer.
It means we will get ICS? We have 1.5GB of internal memory.
This is to my first point, its as if htc didn't edit their post
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ICS with Sense 4.0 works perfect on our desire z. it's extremly fast and optimized. but no camera drivers and sound drivers are not very good.
those new devices with ICS (one v and desire c) both have 512 mb RAM and desire c has 600 (!) mhz CPU, I will never ever buy HTC phone again. no support = no loyalty
stranded.eu said:
It means we will get ICS? We have 1.5GB of internal memory.
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U got 1.5 GB memory? I have "only" 1.1 GB, on every ROM.
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EDIT: They wrote at the down: Upgrade to Android 4.0 means Sense 3.6.
And: Sense 4.0 need special hardware ****.
xxx_1910 said:
ICS with Sense 4.0 works perfect on our desire z. it's extremly fast and optimized. but no camera drivers and sound drivers are not very good.
those new devices with ICS (one v and desire c) both have 512 mb RAM and desire c has 600 (!) mhz CPU, I will never ever buy HTC phone again. no support = no loyalty
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You need to read better.
HTC did not say that it will stop supporting these phones. they said that they will not get there ICS upgrade.
And about the Desire C and One V. Yes they are low spec phones with ICS but they have Sense 4.0, wich runs way faster then 3.6 ( wich older phones will be updated with ).
So newer phones Sense 4.0. Older phones 3.6.
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johrie said:
You need to read better.
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my reading is ok, don't worry dude
HTC did not say that it will stop supporting these phones. they said that they will not get there ICS upgrade.
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it doesn't matter what they say. "support" means at least time zone fix, peep updates, keyboard and other bugz fix etc. and ofcourse new OS if device is suitable. and sure it is.
And about the Desire C and One V. Yes they are low spec phones with ICS but they have Sense 4.0, wich runs way faster then 3.6 ( wich older phones will be updated with ).
So newer phones Sense 4.0. Older phones 3.6.
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so what's the point, "captain obvious"? thats what everybody was talkin about. sense 4.0 lighter, faster, better and low spec phones can easily run and use it.
Mine will
xxx_1910 said:
it doesn't matter what they say. "support" means at least time zone fix, peep updates, keyboard and other bugz fix etc. and ofcourse new OS if device is suitable. and sure it is.
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Only our device is unique in the product lineup because it has a physical keyboard. You'll see the Mytouch 4G Slide has no ICS and it also has a keyboard and is a much more a capable device.
I'd say the actual problem is the software development required to engineer Sense 4.0 to our device. We have a very custom version of Sense 2.1 that features rotating widgets and keyboard optimisations which will be the reason our updates are out of the standard cycle, we didn't get Sense 3.x and probably won't get ICS.
Its not a matter of the device suitability, its all about the Sense interface and in all honesty its not worth HTC's development as they're reportedly not producing any more QWERTY phones.
If you want ICS, you'll be going down a ported ROM route.
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Why be care so much about rom? Isn't it ram they are concerned with?
But on topic htc is making a mistake here, even if they feel sense 4.x will be too slow they could bring just an aosp ics rom in, add their bloatware and our phone should be up to par with many phones currently running stock ics, and probably better than some. The g2/dz are not dinosaurs and developers have proved the stability porting ics here, this would be a mistake especially if we don't have a g3 soon... I wouldn't ming changing to a new manufacture if this is the case...
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I already changed to Sony:
1.- Currently updating ALL their 2011 line to ICS
2.- Official bootloader unlocking tool (!!!)
3.- Light UX skin, not as heavy as Sense
4.- Xperia S offered 12 mpix Exmor-R cam and 1280x720 4.3" screen, I couldn't say no...
...and 5.- My DZ failed after 8 months of modrate use (capacitive buttons) and HTC refused to receive it for repair because I was not in the phone's country of origin (got it from an online retailer, the batch was from Bell Canada)
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U got 1.5 GB memory? I have "only" 1.1 GB, on every ROM.
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HTC G2 HBoot? (it wouldn't run Sense though)
craiglay said:
Its not a matter of the device suitability, its all about the Sense interface
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yes u are right but every custom interface (2.3.* or 4.0.*) has rotating rosie and rotating widgets (except MIUI may be), so I don't think that's a big problem for such a big company. they just don't give a **** about us
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yes u are right but every custom interface (2.3.* or 4.0.*) has rotating rosie and rotating widgets (except MIUI may be), so I don't think that's a big problem for such a big company. they just don't give a **** about us
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All companies are in this to make money, and no money is to be made updating a phone that is nearing it's two year anniversary and has been discontinued. I say it all the time to people about Android phones, you buy one for what it has right now, not what it might get in the future. The most you can expect an OEM to support you is one major OS version, and that's what we got. They want you to buy a new phone, and there is no incentive if they keep you updated.
Apple does the same thing. Sure they update phones to a better version number, but they intentionally lock older phones out of new features to get you to upgrade. The only thing they care about is getting your $, all phone manufacturers are the same. That said, Sony has been stepping up their game lately.....
But if they don't make a new generation phone compareable to the one they refuse to update many will change to a new manufacture - in this case no g3 means die hard htc fans will no longer be that
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gtrab said:
I already changed to Sony:
1.- Currently updating ALL their 2011 line to ICS
2.- Official bootloader unlocking tool (!!!)
3.- Light UX skin, not as heavy as Sense
4.- Xperia S offered 12 mpix Exmor-R cam and 1280x720 4.3" screen, I couldn't say no...
...and 5.- My DZ failed after 8 months of modrate use (capacitive buttons) and HTC refused to receive it for repair because I was not in the phone's country of origin (got it from an online retailer, the batch was from Bell Canada)
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No probs with HTC here.
My Z still stands strong. Got it since release here in Norway. Just waiting for a ICS rom w/ sense 4 that support nordic HW-buttons. No need for Sony
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All companies are in this to make money, and no money is to be made updating a phone that is nearing it's two year anniversary and has been discontinued. I say it all the time to people about Android phones, you buy one for what it has right now, not what it might get in the future. The most you can expect an OEM to support you is one major OS version, and that's what we got. They want you to buy a new phone, and there is no incentive if they keep you updated.
Apple does the same thing. Sure they update phones to a better version number, but they intentionally lock older phones out of new features to get you to upgrade. The only thing they care about is getting your $, all phone manufacturers are the same. That said, Sony has been stepping up their game lately.....
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my english is not good enough to write so long and correct posts, but I partially agree with u. and u have to argree that our desire z always was lagging behind. no 3.0 update, no 3.5. yes, they made 2.3.3 (2.1 Sense) update, but gingerbread release was not far away from desire z start of sales
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But if they don't make a new generation phone compareable to the one they refuse to update many will change to a new manufacture - in this case no g3 means die hard htc fans will no longer be that
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yep. no updates cause of market reasons and no new phone of the same type