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HTC EVO to run Froyo?!?!

I just found this, any credibility here?
http://www.neowin.net/news/sprints-htc-evo-4g-will-run-froyo

i highly doubt this ! how come they updated the sense ui for the froyo release so early when it took the too much time for eclair ?

i think its true. with current versions of android not supporting front cameras, hdmi out, or 4g they would have to be running an updated version

newone757 said:
i think its true. with current versions of android not supporting front cameras, hdmi out, or 4g they would have to be running an updated version
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That doesn't necessarily mean froyo. 1.5 doesn't support CDMA yet both the Hero and the Samsung Moment have 1.5... All they have to do is hack support for those features into their version of 2.1. Doesn't rule out 2.2, but i doubt it.

But it is true that Google is pushing out Android development a lot faster than manufacturers are able to customize their phones with it. Plus Google and HTC are in bed together.

I remember these days.....

nice bump!!! can't believe they got it done. Really, what is this; Feb. 2011 or something?

Holy old post...remove

Omg good times
Swyped from mah synergy evo!

Wow, this is a pointless thread to bring back,but it is nostalgic.

Froyo (2.2) to have extreme performance gains and full flash support

Hey guys check out the Linpack scores they are getting on a Nexus One running Froyo.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...-it-compared-to-2-1-oh-only-about-450-faster/

450% faster than 2.1??? Seriously? ;o

I hope we can get to a point where it's easier to get the stock roms on the hero and other phones. Maybe the mode 'module' design I've heard discussed will help things along.
Sean

tbh im think this is whats holding up 2.1. i think the hero will get 2.2 and sprint will skip 2.1 all together, makes sense if you think about it.

"Sorry, your HTC Hero will not support the Froyo update. Please buy the HTC Superhero due in Q4 2010."

CHANG3D said:
"Sorry, your HTC Hero will not support the Froyo update. Please buy the HTC Superhero due in Q4 2010."
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it will be ported, bank on that.

fixxxer2008 said:
it will be ported, bank on that.
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Even so, good firmware can't make up for lack of processing power and hardware. It would never run like it's meant to.

Gingerbread!!!

So Gingerbread (2.3) is here and I wanted to be the first nagging user to ask when we are going to see the port for the Aria?

No asking for ETAs...IOW, whenever they damn well please.
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Gingerbread may be out but the source isn't so no gingerbread for you.

Good things come to those who wait just like grandma's inheritance, uh, I mean cookies.
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Good news most def.

I think Gingerbread has limitations as far as the proc goes. I think it requires a minimum of 1ghz. I could be wrong tho.
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jbizz said:
I think Gingerbread has limitations as far as the proc goes. I think it requires a minimum of 1ghz. I could be wrong tho.
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This was a rumor a few months ago that was pretty much shot down. If you need proof, look at the G2. There's no way they would release it with an 800mhz processor if Gingerbread required 1ghz.

Yeah, you can't limit an OS because of processor clock cycle. Clock cycles in these days isn't as important as it used to be. We are in the new age of multi-core and instruction sets for optimization. Hell, look at the G1, it's running Froyo - now that's impressive!

Don't know if you guys saw this or not( http://www.xda-developers.com/android/breaking-news-gingerbread-2-3-running-on-droid-eris/ ), but punk.kaos got Gingerbread kinda working on the Eris. In terms of power the Eris is sort of a bottom feeder so if it can run on the Eris it definitely can run on the Aria. But we will have to be patient, unless someone knows how to port the source to the Aria. I am loving 6.1 right now, so I can wait for Gingerbread at the moment.

A guy got a hacked port to boot on his HTC Wildfire which is slower than the aria. No this does not mean a port will come to the aria yet.

ls377 said:
This was a rumor a few months ago that was pretty much shot down. If you need proof, look at the G2. There's no way they would release it with an 800mhz processor if Gingerbread required 1ghz.
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It was also assumed by many that Android 3.0 would be Gingerbread. Instead, Gingerbread is 2.3.
With 3.0, there are rumors of higher end graphics and processor requirements.
kaschenberg said:
Yeah, you can't limit an OS because of processor clock cycle. Clock cycles in these days isn't as important as it used to be. We are in the new age of multi-core and instruction sets for optimization. Hell, look at the G1, it's running Froyo - now that's impressive!
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True. It looks like Liberty/Slide/Legend will be included when CM goes to Android 2.3.
I am not sure about 3.0 though, if it's going to be targeted exclusively at larger, more powerful, higher resolution devices. Time will tell how successfully that stuff will be supported on MDPI devices it's not intended for with 1 1/2 gen processors, even with decent GPUs.

Gingerbread's already ported to Wildfire, which only has around 528 mhz. So we might get it. if someone works on it.

thatkidjoe said:
Gingerbread's already ported to Wildfire, which only has around 528 mhz. So we might get it. if someone works on it.
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Trust me, it will be worked on once we get a source drop for an actual device (N1, NS)

attn1 said:
Trust me, it will be worked on once we get a source drop for an actual device (N1, NS)
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you haven't disappointed us thus far attn1!
keep up the good work

Hey attn1, a dev at Google tweeted on LG's page that a 1ghz processor wasnt required for gingerbread, just thought I should let you know xD
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Plasmamuffins said:
Hey attn1, a dev at Google tweeted on LG's page that a 1ghz processor wasnt required for gingerbread, just thought I should let you know xD
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That's good news! No one knew until now!

Currently the Gingerbread ports are messy patches to the emulator system.img which happens to be for qualcomm/snapdragon type chips.
Just be patient and wait for source, anything we get before then will be hella slow and missing functionality.
Seeing as the Gratia launched with Froyo it woudln't suprise me if we get official Gingerbread at some point.

chambo622 said:
Currently the Gingerbread ports are messy patches to the emulator system.img which happens to be for qualcomm/snapdragon type chips.
Just be patient and wait for source, anything we get before then will be hella slow and missing functionality.
Seeing as the Gratia launched with Froyo it woudln't suprise me if we get official Gingerbread at some point.
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I know I'm not going to hold my breath for an official release. Based on what I've been reading on several forums, there have been rumblings that the Aria might not see an official 2.2 (Which quite frankly I had already given up hope on).
Who knows though, perhaps AT&T and HTC decided that since it's deployment on 2.2 was so late, that they would wait until 2.3... or 2.4... 5, or 6.
Either way, thanks for everything devs, CM and Liberated are both great Froyo ROMs, and I've used both without a hitch.

I think 2.3 will come to Aria (in CM), but I will wait at least N1 got updated. (Propably N1 won't got official update for marketing issue)
Don't trust rumors about the 1GHz bla bla bla, if Gingerbread is not 3D based and lots of effects and still require 1GHz to run smoothly, I believe it's a buggy OS (based on the NS, it's just like an big update for Froyo).

tleung11 said:
I think 2.3 will come to Aria (in CM), but I will wait at least N1 got updated. (Propably N1 won't got official update for marketing issue)
Don't trust rumors about the 1GHz bla bla bla, if Gingerbread is not 3D based and lots of effects and still require 1GHz to run smoothly, I believe it's a buggy OS (based on the NS, it's just like an big update for Froyo).
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Google has already pledged that Nexus One will get Gingerbread, so no issue there.
HTC said back in the beginning of the year that any device launched in 2010 will get upgraded to Froyo, so that includes the AT&T Aria, so we'll definitely get official Froyo for that.
Whether the AT&T Aria will get Gingerbread officially is up in the air, but I'm all but certain that the Gratia will, given that it just launched with 2.2.

new and very nice GUI for the sense - DHD soon ?

htc show new gui for sense 2.3.3, great features! (see YT link).
im wonder, do we get it on the next ota ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF8azvr03z4

Thats very nice!

I'm assuming this will come with the DHD 2.3 update

Yummy!
Look forward to using that in the future.
Nice phone too.

cant wait
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What makes you think we'll get this on the DHD? I could be completely wrong but I doubt we ever will.

It lags on a 1,2Ghz DualCore... I hope this is NOT the final version...
But I really like the lockscreen!

AWBob said:
What makes you think we'll get this on the DHD? I could be completely wrong but I doubt we ever will.
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im SURE that when the roms hit for the evo 3g, rom developers for the DHD will be coaxing/ manipulating some features from there

All websites are stating that the Evo 3D gets Sense 2.1. Unless HTC are making to versions of 2.1 we'll get it to.
The current TestROMs of Gingerbread with Sense 2.1 doesn't have those nice features, but they are TestROMs, so maybe HTC will include them on release.

Come On HTC where's my Sense 3.0

HTC have proven that they will listen to the community by announcing future unlocked bootloaders.
Having just had a play with a Sensation I do like the look and operation of Sense 3.0. I know there are custom Roms ported from 3.0 but what I really want is an official upgrade. My DesireHD is plenty fast enough at the moment so I don't want to shell out big money for a dual core handset just to get Sense 3.0.
So perhaps HTC could prove they love us for more than 6 months (normal product cycle) by producing a Sense 3.0 for their handsets that are up to it AND unlock the bootloader at the same time. If enough people think so maybe just maybe we will be heard.

They already stated that they wouldn't be providing any sense 2.1 handsets with a sense 3.0 upgrade.
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Apparently its down to performance issues. I'm nit finding a huge difference between the two myself in terms of non bling features.
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We'll see once the sdk is out.
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dingbatt said:
. I know there are custom Roms ported from 3.0 but what I really want is an official upgrade.
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Having seen the hash that has been made of the latest 2.3.3 update why on earth would you want the official over a tweaked custom ROM?

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We'll see once the sdk is out.
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I agree .. I would go so far as to say that our developers at xda will probably do a better job than htc on sense 3.0 when the sdk comes out

shakadamus said:
They already stated that they wouldn't be providing any sense 2.1 handsets with a sense 3.0 upgrade.
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They also locked the bootloaders. And said no GB for the Desire. If enough customers want it and make it known, then maybe they could spare someone to produce a port of 3.0 for the lower res screens.
My OTA update to 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1 went without a hitch (so far so good).
I had fun trying all sorts of ROMs on my Hero (and still do) but the DesireHD is 'mission critical' and I need it to all work all the time. I am in awe of the skills of the ROM cooks but sometimes the product still comes out half baked.

HTC will *NOT* sacrifice user experience for new features (if any). Don't forget that Sense 3.0 came with the dual core Sensation. Yes, it can be made to work good-ish but you'll never see HTC overclocking their phones. Unlocking the bootloader does no damage to HTC (especially if it voids the warranty) so they did it. This has nothing to do with Sense 3.0 - we are more likely in the position of the Desire users: GB can run on their phones but it doesn't meet the performance standards of HTC. So no official GB for them... and no Sense 3.0 for us...
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dingbatt said:
They also locked the bootloaders. And said no GB for the Desire. If enough customers want it and make it known, then maybe they could spare someone to produce a port of 3.0 for the lower res screens.
My OTA update to 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1 went without a hitch (so far so good).
I had fun trying all sorts of ROMs on my Hero (and still do) but the DesireHD is 'mission critical' and I need it to all work all the time. I am in awe of the skills of the ROM cooks but sometimes the product still comes out half baked.
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Half baked you said.There are more than 8 stable, more faster and smoother roms for DHD here including 2 powerful roms with full sense 3.0 support. Check the threads, hardly a discussion about a bug anymore just themes, rosie and what not.
Believe me they are far more superior to what Htc had to offer.
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i like the sense roms here but i had a problem with virtuous unity rom really liked it aswell.

Guys both virtuous unity and rcmix are fantastic 3.0 ports!! Try them..out devs are more talented than HTCs I have to say who thought it wasnt possible officially!

no chance
nochance of that happening as the first poster said, im currently using RcMix3D 1.9 which the dark v3 patch which is sense 3.0 and its wikked i love it, ive tried all the roms on here and this is the best

recently i bought dhd unfortunately by mistake up dated the machine, now i can not go for sense 3.0. a,m about to got rid of the machine if will remain on sense 2
any help from XDA .

I think its HTC marketing strategy. They may think that now one would buy the Sensation or Evo 3d if some of the older Phones had 3.0.
But if you watch the videos how poorly Sense 3.0 runs on the Sensation maybe their honest with the performance and they can´t make a smooth runnig Sense 3.0 update for the DHD.
Don´t know wich is worse but you´ll have to flash a custom rom if you want Sense 3.0.

lolypop said:
recently i bought dhd unfortunately by mistake up dated the machine, now i can not go for sense 3.0. a,m about to got rid of the machine if will remain on sense 2
any help from XDA .
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New build can now be downgraded mate It's found in the dev section

Seriously you don't want 3.0 I bought the sensation and have had 3 of them , they suffer from heat problems and sense 3 is so laggy. IM that disappointed that the phone its so slow I've bought a dhd and to be honest its quicker, cooler and far superior ...
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how to downgrade
thats funny ive been using 3.0 on my dhd for ages now and had no lags, here is the downgrade page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003

I've tried the sense 3 Roms and while there are aspects of them that I like, i prefer CM7 for it's speed and flexibility, not missing sense at the moment
Duncan

I have to say that the ability and feeling with sense 3.0 is much better. but that's my personly view - everyone prefers stuff himself.

johansenmo said:
I have to say that the ability and feeling with sense 3.0 is much better. but that's my personly view - everyone prefers stuff himself.
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True. Everyone has his own feel over how thinks should work. I had the chance to buy a brand new Sensation, so I decided to compare it with my DHD running LeeDroid with Sense 3.0 port. Can You guess which one is laggier and slower? Surprise, surprise it's the Sensation. Even though the CPU is 0,2 GHz faster and a dual core, it seems as if the two cores are not syncronised and do not use the RAM in the best possible way. Sure for multithreaded apps the Sensation is faster, but how many of those are out there? And the heat. They say DHD has a overheating problem... Try using a Sensation or a SGS II for more than 30 minutes. They'll burn your hand I bet the next HTC will be 1,5 GHz and will be called the Untouchable (LMAO)