HTC have proven that they will listen to the community by announcing future unlocked bootloaders.
Having just had a play with a Sensation I do like the look and operation of Sense 3.0. I know there are custom Roms ported from 3.0 but what I really want is an official upgrade. My DesireHD is plenty fast enough at the moment so I don't want to shell out big money for a dual core handset just to get Sense 3.0.
So perhaps HTC could prove they love us for more than 6 months (normal product cycle) by producing a Sense 3.0 for their handsets that are up to it AND unlock the bootloader at the same time. If enough people think so maybe just maybe we will be heard.
They already stated that they wouldn't be providing any sense 2.1 handsets with a sense 3.0 upgrade.
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Apparently its down to performance issues. I'm nit finding a huge difference between the two myself in terms of non bling features.
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. I know there are custom Roms ported from 3.0 but what I really want is an official upgrade.
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Having seen the hash that has been made of the latest 2.3.3 update why on earth would you want the official over a tweaked custom ROM?
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We'll see once the sdk is out.
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I agree .. I would go so far as to say that our developers at xda will probably do a better job than htc on sense 3.0 when the sdk comes out
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They already stated that they wouldn't be providing any sense 2.1 handsets with a sense 3.0 upgrade.
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They also locked the bootloaders. And said no GB for the Desire. If enough customers want it and make it known, then maybe they could spare someone to produce a port of 3.0 for the lower res screens.
My OTA update to 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1 went without a hitch (so far so good).
I had fun trying all sorts of ROMs on my Hero (and still do) but the DesireHD is 'mission critical' and I need it to all work all the time. I am in awe of the skills of the ROM cooks but sometimes the product still comes out half baked.
HTC will *NOT* sacrifice user experience for new features (if any). Don't forget that Sense 3.0 came with the dual core Sensation. Yes, it can be made to work good-ish but you'll never see HTC overclocking their phones. Unlocking the bootloader does no damage to HTC (especially if it voids the warranty) so they did it. This has nothing to do with Sense 3.0 - we are more likely in the position of the Desire users: GB can run on their phones but it doesn't meet the performance standards of HTC. So no official GB for them... and no Sense 3.0 for us...
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They also locked the bootloaders. And said no GB for the Desire. If enough customers want it and make it known, then maybe they could spare someone to produce a port of 3.0 for the lower res screens.
My OTA update to 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1 went without a hitch (so far so good).
I had fun trying all sorts of ROMs on my Hero (and still do) but the DesireHD is 'mission critical' and I need it to all work all the time. I am in awe of the skills of the ROM cooks but sometimes the product still comes out half baked.
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Half baked you said.There are more than 8 stable, more faster and smoother roms for DHD here including 2 powerful roms with full sense 3.0 support. Check the threads, hardly a discussion about a bug anymore just themes, rosie and what not.
Believe me they are far more superior to what Htc had to offer.
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i like the sense roms here but i had a problem with virtuous unity rom really liked it aswell.
Guys both virtuous unity and rcmix are fantastic 3.0 ports!! Try them..out devs are more talented than HTCs I have to say who thought it wasnt possible officially!
no chance
nochance of that happening as the first poster said, im currently using RcMix3D 1.9 which the dark v3 patch which is sense 3.0 and its wikked i love it, ive tried all the roms on here and this is the best
recently i bought dhd unfortunately by mistake up dated the machine, now i can not go for sense 3.0. a,m about to got rid of the machine if will remain on sense 2
any help from XDA .
I think its HTC marketing strategy. They may think that now one would buy the Sensation or Evo 3d if some of the older Phones had 3.0.
But if you watch the videos how poorly Sense 3.0 runs on the Sensation maybe their honest with the performance and they can´t make a smooth runnig Sense 3.0 update for the DHD.
Don´t know wich is worse but you´ll have to flash a custom rom if you want Sense 3.0.
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recently i bought dhd unfortunately by mistake up dated the machine, now i can not go for sense 3.0. a,m about to got rid of the machine if will remain on sense 2
any help from XDA .
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New build can now be downgraded mate It's found in the dev section
Seriously you don't want 3.0 I bought the sensation and have had 3 of them , they suffer from heat problems and sense 3 is so laggy. IM that disappointed that the phone its so slow I've bought a dhd and to be honest its quicker, cooler and far superior ...
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how to downgrade
thats funny ive been using 3.0 on my dhd for ages now and had no lags, here is the downgrade page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
I've tried the sense 3 Roms and while there are aspects of them that I like, i prefer CM7 for it's speed and flexibility, not missing sense at the moment
Duncan
I have to say that the ability and feeling with sense 3.0 is much better. but that's my personly view - everyone prefers stuff himself.
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I have to say that the ability and feeling with sense 3.0 is much better. but that's my personly view - everyone prefers stuff himself.
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True. Everyone has his own feel over how thinks should work. I had the chance to buy a brand new Sensation, so I decided to compare it with my DHD running LeeDroid with Sense 3.0 port. Can You guess which one is laggier and slower? Surprise, surprise it's the Sensation. Even though the CPU is 0,2 GHz faster and a dual core, it seems as if the two cores are not syncronised and do not use the RAM in the best possible way. Sure for multithreaded apps the Sensation is faster, but how many of those are out there? And the heat. They say DHD has a overheating problem... Try using a Sensation or a SGS II for more than 30 minutes. They'll burn your hand I bet the next HTC will be 1,5 GHz and will be called the Untouchable (LMAO)
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Is wildfire getting the new sense ui v3.0 ?
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Probably not.
The Sense 3.0 UI is on Wildfire S because the S has a more powerful processor and GPU.
Officially, certainly not. Unofficially, danne_jo, te creator of Wildpuzzle ported the new Sense but unfortunately it doesnt work. The view is that the new Sense requires a newer processor than what the Wildfire has. Still, this is unconfirmed though.
The new sense is made for more recent hardware, but it can denfinily work on our wildfires. The hardware is just OK.
The current Sense on the wildfire is slow and sluggish.
I don't see the new and graphically improved one running any better,
can be port? wildfire s have that. I thınk sense 3.0 work on our wildfires they have enough hardware.
time to get a new phone methinks!
maybe on wildfire s, but probably not on our wildfire
i don't think there will be official one since wildfire s launch. the old phone still compete with new gen wildfire will be bad idea for a company.
pray that danne_jo will give us brighter hope.
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maybe on wildfire s, but probably not on our wildfire
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Wildfire S has already the new Sense.
htc show new gui for sense 2.3.3, great features! (see YT link).
im wonder, do we get it on the next ota ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF8azvr03z4
Thats very nice!
I'm assuming this will come with the DHD 2.3 update
Yummy!
Look forward to using that in the future.
Nice phone too.
cant wait
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What makes you think we'll get this on the DHD? I could be completely wrong but I doubt we ever will.
It lags on a 1,2Ghz DualCore... I hope this is NOT the final version...
But I really like the lockscreen!
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What makes you think we'll get this on the DHD? I could be completely wrong but I doubt we ever will.
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im SURE that when the roms hit for the evo 3g, rom developers for the DHD will be coaxing/ manipulating some features from there
All websites are stating that the Evo 3D gets Sense 2.1. Unless HTC are making to versions of 2.1 we'll get it to.
The current TestROMs of Gingerbread with Sense 2.1 doesn't have those nice features, but they are TestROMs, so maybe HTC will include them on release.
the list included the following devices
HTC Sensation
HTC Sensation XL
HTC Sensation XE
HTC EVO 3D
HTC EVO Design 4G
HTC Amaze 4G
HTC Rezound
HTC Vivid
don't get shocked cause u didnt see Desire HD,htc said that this is the first list for devices that will get ics,and they will keep testing all other devices to see if is it possible to have ics,and will release a new list whenever testing is complete
in my openion this is how it goes,new devices will get it first,then they will say our dhd won't get it and finally they will release it =D
I hope!!!!
So? I love Sense, but I also have a HC tablet and let me tell you- the UI (ICS has virtually the same UI as HC) is brilliant. Once CM releases a build for DHD I'm dumping Sense and start using that.
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I hope too!
Who needs official ICS with sense 2 when there's such a heaving dev community?
Well i think theyll release it for a newer phone of theirs, and the DHD/Inspire Devs will just port that release to our phones.. Lol
you guys seem to forget that XDA devs need a base to begin with, so the more bases and kernel sources HTC provides the better for us, for example before the WVGA sense 3.0 DHD/incredibleS and runny leaks all customs ports of sense 3 needed to resize the graphics which wasn't a walk in the park, equaly right now roms based on WVGA sense 3.0/3.5 are running so well because we already have Gingerbread kernel source from HTC
so yes even if we rely on custom roms we will always need a compatible base
the good news is that HTC committed to ICS on Sensation XL which is WVGA and has close specs including the same GPU/CPU and RAM as our DHD, a fully working port is almost guarranteed
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Well i think theyll release it for a newer phone of theirs, and the DHD/Inspire Devs will just port that release to our phones.. Lol
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Specifically with the Sensation XL
i wish !! D
We don´t need official ics release, we only need to wait devs to port it, and sure will be better than official one....
Thanks devs.
Theres nothing stopping HTC from upgrading the Desire HD to sensation XL performance. If we can do it at Dev level like with Android Revolution, including upping the CPU to a safe level like 1.2 Ghz, then HTC can do it. They're just being picky.
we believe in our developers
And thanks to this guy ^…Im typing this from my ICS Inspire 4G. You dh.harald, truly rock my friend
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And thanks to this guy ^…Im typing this from my ICS Inspire 4G. You dh.harald, truly rock my friend
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Same I love you! This is the best!
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I wish Desire HD it won be long for ics too
HTC devices will most likely get ics before christmas
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HTC devices will most likely get ics before christmas
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Nice.. Already my daily driver.. Kudos to all developers..
I believe, i trully believe that The genius developers in this dhd thread will satisfy me and all this dhd thread members.
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Sense is an insult to ICS stock ICS is great and I hope HTC leaves a bit of the ICS feeling
I really hope to see some ICS soon on my HD
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Does anyone think that we can get HTC one V port? Coz the spec almost similar to our device, hopefully we can get ICS with sense 4.0 rom soon.
So impatient... The device hasn't even hit the market yet.
And considering how active the g2/dz dev community is, I wouldn't be surprised to see it not too long after the rom gets released.
Don't upset the dev's!
I've tried different 4.0 ROM's and while they are awesome, they are not even what I would considered "fit" for everyday use. 4.0 itself is still new, I think we're lucky to just have that so far. But as far as Sense on top of ICS? I think it's a stretch, for the time being. I would rather see just effort going towards perfecting the stock 4.0 for G2/Desire Z, rather then have the dev's effort split and trying to do that as well. I'm not a developer myself, it doesn't sound like you are either but if you want that port any time soon, might as well get working on it
It would be very interesting to know what CPU is in the One V. Let's hope it uses the same as the Desire HD, then it should be straightforward to port.
Having said that, the Desire S and DHD will be getting official ICS ports anyway, so it's a matter of "when" rather than "if" for us.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to this web site:
http://www.geeksailor.com/htc-one-x-htc-one-v-htc-one-s/
The HTC one V have a snapdragon S2 chipset.
Which led me to this table:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
With 1 GHz, there is only one chipset, the MSM8255.
The same as the Desire HD!!!
Also, I've just done another search with Google and I got this page:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3382&c=htc_one_v
Look for the processor: the MSM8255!!!
So maybe the port will be a lot more easier than before.
Edit: It looks smooth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahrv6f2_LfI
ICS
I am more concerned about the 512 RAM in HTC One V making it more similar to the DZ. (I though it is dual-core, but no)
If the V handles ICS WITH(!) Sense our DZ's would easily handle stock ICS (as talked about in other threads) in my opinion.
We'll be one of the first to know about it... HERE...
Can't wait to see that happen...
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As far as i know, which could be all wrong, the V comes with ICS, but with Sense 3.6 (kind of a light version of Sense 4) which is why it can handle both. Personally, i think the sense version it carries must be less resource consuming that 3.5 and 3.0 which would be reason for it being able to run with ICS
But in any case, im eager to see this ported!!
Unbelievable how HTC cheapened this out big time. Even Samsung's budget phones at MWC use S3 variants! But hey why complain if this would feed code to our G2's no?
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As far as i know, which could be all wrong, the V comes with ICS, but with Sense 3.6 (kind of a light version of Sense 4) which is why it can handle both. Personally, i think the sense version it carries must be less resource consuming that 3.5 and 3.0 which would be reason for it being able to run with ICS
But in any case, im eager to see this ported!!
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According to http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-v/#specs
One V comes with Sense 4. I think that the difference between Sense 4 and Sense 3.6 will be ImageSense. Not some kind of light version.
Htc released a statement saying they realized sense is bloated now and is going to slim down))))
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Htc released a statement saying they realized sense is bloated now and is going to slim down))))
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Yes! I posted a pool here to get an opinion. I'd say that this is awesomeistic!
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According to http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-v/#specs
One V comes with Sense 4. I think that the difference between Sense 4 and Sense 3.6 will be ImageSense. Not some kind of light version.
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Would you mind explaining what ImageSense is ? Google shows something about a defunct design company.
Has the RUU been leaked yet? When it has or been officially released I'm gunna try port it
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It will be race who first port this Rom.
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I would rather not have a FULL One V port, and have a One V with rotating rosie and the 3D task manager thingy.
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Would you mind explaining what ImageSense is ? Google shows something about a defunct design company.
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ImageSense is HTC's version of camera software that allows the One Series of phones to take pictures in under a second. It also enables them to take still pictures WHILE recording in 720p. If i remember correctly, both Samsung and Motorola have their respective versions with similar capabilities as well.
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Skip to about 1:20 of the video.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/26/htc-one-s-hands-on-at-mwc-2012/
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/04/htc-releases-imagesense-samples/
One V port
Before One V is released Sense 4.0 will be released for Sensation and other already existing devices. Porting from these will be easier than waiting for one V to release.
Port should work fine. Same RAM etc.
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Sensation and Sensation XE is supposed to get ICS with Sense 3.5 (looks like for now) very soon. Not sure if they'll push Sense 4.0 to them yet though (haven't seen anything yet)
Once the RUU comes, the magic will start.
What devices will not get Android 4.0?
We work hard to ensure each of our products has the optimal user experience and therefore some products will remain at their current version of Android. In general, devices with 512MB ROM or less will not be upgraded to Android 4.0. These devices include the HTC ChaCha, HTC Salsa, HTC Wildfire S, HTC Explorer, and others.
HTC tablets, including the HTC Flyer, HTC EVO View 4G, and HTC Jetstream, will remain on their current Android version (Honeycomb).
Upgrades are not the same thing as ongoing support. Devices not being upgraded to Android 4.0 will still get software improvements, security fixes, and technical support as needed.
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Source: http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
No shock there. Vision owners got their Android bump from 2.2 to 2.3, they weren't going to bother with another.
Unfortunate there was no mention of the Desire HD though, want those drivers...
Edit: Nvm, July-August! Yay.
Then how come htc desire c has ice cream sandwich???
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Excuse me but isn't ROM the internal memory meaning we qualify" Or is it actually RAM? I'm confused. ROM is non-writable so it's definately not RAM...?
Why be care so much about rom? Isn't it ram they are concerned with?
But on topic htc is making a mistake here, even if they feel sense 4.x will be too slow they could bring just an aosp ics rom in, add their bloatware and our phone should be up to par with many phones currently running stock ics, and probably better than some. The g2/dz are not dinosaurs and developers have proved the stability porting ics here, this would be a mistake especially if we don't have a g3 soon... I wouldn't ming changing to a new manufacture if this is the case...
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If this is the case:
ROM is "built-in" computer memory containing data that normally can only be read, not written to. ROM contains the programming that allows your computer to be "booted up" or regenerated each time you turn it on. Unlike a computer's random access memory (RAM), the data in ROM is not lost when the computer power is turned off. The ROM is sustained by a small long-life battery in your computer.
It means we will get ICS? We have 1.5GB of internal memory.
This is to my first point, its as if htc didn't edit their post
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ICS with Sense 4.0 works perfect on our desire z. it's extremly fast and optimized. but no camera drivers and sound drivers are not very good.
those new devices with ICS (one v and desire c) both have 512 mb RAM and desire c has 600 (!) mhz CPU, I will never ever buy HTC phone again. no support = no loyalty
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It means we will get ICS? We have 1.5GB of internal memory.
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U got 1.5 GB memory? I have "only" 1.1 GB, on every ROM.
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EDIT: They wrote at the down: Upgrade to Android 4.0 means Sense 3.6.
And: Sense 4.0 need special hardware ****.
xxx_1910 said:
ICS with Sense 4.0 works perfect on our desire z. it's extremly fast and optimized. but no camera drivers and sound drivers are not very good.
those new devices with ICS (one v and desire c) both have 512 mb RAM and desire c has 600 (!) mhz CPU, I will never ever buy HTC phone again. no support = no loyalty
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You need to read better.
HTC did not say that it will stop supporting these phones. they said that they will not get there ICS upgrade.
And about the Desire C and One V. Yes they are low spec phones with ICS but they have Sense 4.0, wich runs way faster then 3.6 ( wich older phones will be updated with ).
So newer phones Sense 4.0. Older phones 3.6.
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You need to read better.
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my reading is ok, don't worry dude
HTC did not say that it will stop supporting these phones. they said that they will not get there ICS upgrade.
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it doesn't matter what they say. "support" means at least time zone fix, peep updates, keyboard and other bugz fix etc. and ofcourse new OS if device is suitable. and sure it is.
And about the Desire C and One V. Yes they are low spec phones with ICS but they have Sense 4.0, wich runs way faster then 3.6 ( wich older phones will be updated with ).
So newer phones Sense 4.0. Older phones 3.6.
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so what's the point, "captain obvious"? thats what everybody was talkin about. sense 4.0 lighter, faster, better and low spec phones can easily run and use it.
Mine will
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it doesn't matter what they say. "support" means at least time zone fix, peep updates, keyboard and other bugz fix etc. and ofcourse new OS if device is suitable. and sure it is.
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Only our device is unique in the product lineup because it has a physical keyboard. You'll see the Mytouch 4G Slide has no ICS and it also has a keyboard and is a much more a capable device.
I'd say the actual problem is the software development required to engineer Sense 4.0 to our device. We have a very custom version of Sense 2.1 that features rotating widgets and keyboard optimisations which will be the reason our updates are out of the standard cycle, we didn't get Sense 3.x and probably won't get ICS.
Its not a matter of the device suitability, its all about the Sense interface and in all honesty its not worth HTC's development as they're reportedly not producing any more QWERTY phones.
If you want ICS, you'll be going down a ported ROM route.
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Why be care so much about rom? Isn't it ram they are concerned with?
But on topic htc is making a mistake here, even if they feel sense 4.x will be too slow they could bring just an aosp ics rom in, add their bloatware and our phone should be up to par with many phones currently running stock ics, and probably better than some. The g2/dz are not dinosaurs and developers have proved the stability porting ics here, this would be a mistake especially if we don't have a g3 soon... I wouldn't ming changing to a new manufacture if this is the case...
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I already changed to Sony:
1.- Currently updating ALL their 2011 line to ICS
2.- Official bootloader unlocking tool (!!!)
3.- Light UX skin, not as heavy as Sense
4.- Xperia S offered 12 mpix Exmor-R cam and 1280x720 4.3" screen, I couldn't say no...
...and 5.- My DZ failed after 8 months of modrate use (capacitive buttons) and HTC refused to receive it for repair because I was not in the phone's country of origin (got it from an online retailer, the batch was from Bell Canada)
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U got 1.5 GB memory? I have "only" 1.1 GB, on every ROM.
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HTC G2 HBoot? (it wouldn't run Sense though)
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Its not a matter of the device suitability, its all about the Sense interface
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yes u are right but every custom interface (2.3.* or 4.0.*) has rotating rosie and rotating widgets (except MIUI may be), so I don't think that's a big problem for such a big company. they just don't give a **** about us
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yes u are right but every custom interface (2.3.* or 4.0.*) has rotating rosie and rotating widgets (except MIUI may be), so I don't think that's a big problem for such a big company. they just don't give a **** about us
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All companies are in this to make money, and no money is to be made updating a phone that is nearing it's two year anniversary and has been discontinued. I say it all the time to people about Android phones, you buy one for what it has right now, not what it might get in the future. The most you can expect an OEM to support you is one major OS version, and that's what we got. They want you to buy a new phone, and there is no incentive if they keep you updated.
Apple does the same thing. Sure they update phones to a better version number, but they intentionally lock older phones out of new features to get you to upgrade. The only thing they care about is getting your $, all phone manufacturers are the same. That said, Sony has been stepping up their game lately.....
But if they don't make a new generation phone compareable to the one they refuse to update many will change to a new manufacture - in this case no g3 means die hard htc fans will no longer be that
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gtrab said:
I already changed to Sony:
1.- Currently updating ALL their 2011 line to ICS
2.- Official bootloader unlocking tool (!!!)
3.- Light UX skin, not as heavy as Sense
4.- Xperia S offered 12 mpix Exmor-R cam and 1280x720 4.3" screen, I couldn't say no...
...and 5.- My DZ failed after 8 months of modrate use (capacitive buttons) and HTC refused to receive it for repair because I was not in the phone's country of origin (got it from an online retailer, the batch was from Bell Canada)
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No probs with HTC here.
My Z still stands strong. Got it since release here in Norway. Just waiting for a ICS rom w/ sense 4 that support nordic HW-buttons. No need for Sony
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All companies are in this to make money, and no money is to be made updating a phone that is nearing it's two year anniversary and has been discontinued. I say it all the time to people about Android phones, you buy one for what it has right now, not what it might get in the future. The most you can expect an OEM to support you is one major OS version, and that's what we got. They want you to buy a new phone, and there is no incentive if they keep you updated.
Apple does the same thing. Sure they update phones to a better version number, but they intentionally lock older phones out of new features to get you to upgrade. The only thing they care about is getting your $, all phone manufacturers are the same. That said, Sony has been stepping up their game lately.....
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my english is not good enough to write so long and correct posts, but I partially agree with u. and u have to argree that our desire z always was lagging behind. no 3.0 update, no 3.5. yes, they made 2.3.3 (2.1 Sense) update, but gingerbread release was not far away from desire z start of sales
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But if they don't make a new generation phone compareable to the one they refuse to update many will change to a new manufacture - in this case no g3 means die hard htc fans will no longer be that
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yep. no updates cause of market reasons and no new phone of the same type