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As this community slowly declines one can't help but think, is CM7 the only thing we have left to look forward to?
I don't know if we can or not. We managed to troll/eta ourselves into getting the thread closed.
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Not really i mean we've got ACS... Bonsai ...MidNight.... Nebula (hopefully)... MIUI .... all this should kick off shortly.
but i mean after gingerbread... then what ? Gingerbread is already pretty old so i mean...
I don't know guys, maybe samsprint will surprise us.
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As much a my phone would love some ice cream sandwich, I highly doubt samsprint will officially support it for the epic. While gingerbread was a nice treat (pun intended). I beielve this will be the last official update. But hey hopefully the devs can work some magic...if there are ay left by then!
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Reaction to Official GB will Reveal All
I suspect the reaction to the official gingerbread release will tell us. I suspect we'll see a flurry of the standard players after the GB release, Bonsai (my favorite), ACS, etc. However, they will quickly reach the point where they have done all they can do, (i.e. applied all the currently known tweaks/patches).
After that, it's really CM. CM7 development (based on commits) seems to have slowed a bit after a flurrish at the end of May. If the CM7 team is able to get it stable based on the official GB source, the Epic can then ride the CM train for a while. If that doesn't happen, I expect 1-2 revisions of tweeked ROMs based on GB from each team, particularly Bonsai and ACS and then development on the Epic will be done.
More tasty deserts with CM7.
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I suspect the reaction to the official gingerbread release will tell us. I suspect we'll see a flurry of the standard players after the GB release, Bonsai (my favorite), ACS, etc. However, they will quickly reach the point where they have done all they can do, (i.e. applied all the currently known tweaks/patches).
After that, it's really CM. CM7 development (based on commits) seems to have slowed a bit after a flurrish at the end of May. If the CM7 team is able to get it stable based on the official GB source, the Epic can then ride the CM train for a while. If that doesn't happen, I expect 1-2 revisions of tweeked ROMs based on GB from each team, particularly Bonsai and ACS and then development on the Epic will be done.
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I agree if we are lucky we may get an ice cream sammich. With CM7 we can get timely upgrades of more tasty deserts like jelly beans, kiwi pudding, lemon meringue pie, etc, etc....
Not even looking at icecream sandwitch, if we get to CM7, we will not just get major updates, but we'll get regular, minor releases as well. Those can provide additional featuers. (I'd personally LOVE to get the granular permissions control thats being added to CM7.) If we don't get to CM7, we can dream about ICS, but in reality, we're unlikely to get features and instead only get ROM tweeks (and kernel modules).
Also we will have continued development and not have development stop because of lack of source code. That is what I hate most about not being on cyanogenmod. With the lawsuit with apple Samsung should seriously consider working more with cyanogenmod and just dump touch wiz all together. In my opinion touch wiz is not all that impressive and serious limits the phone's compatibility.
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I agree if we are lucky we may get an ice cream sammich. With CM7 we can get timely upgrades of more tasty deserts like jelly beans, kiwi pudding, lemon meringue pie, etc, etc....
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+1 charrrrrrr LMMMMAO!!!!!!!!
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Also we will have continued development and not have development stop because of lack of source code. That is what I hate most about not being on cyanogenmod. With the lawsuit with apple Samsung should seriously consider working more with cyanogenmod and just dump touch wiz all together. In my opinion touch wiz is not all that impressive and serious limits the phone's compatibility.
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To the consumer touchwiz may not seem much. But to sammy it is. There's always some in depth agenda the consumer has no clue about.
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I believe that after GB we have no other updates coming for the Epic (official at least). But we manage to get CM, that would change the appeal of the phone, and would be a retention factor for many.
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I believe that after GB we have no other updates coming for the Epic (official at least). But we manage to get CM, that would change the appeal of the phone, and would be a retention factor for many.
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I believe something of a sort aswell my friend. But the CM7 team will have a fully functional release by the end of the summer. I'm positive. Then will have a lot more activity going on with the epic community once again. Just have patience and encourage our developers. Donate. And keep the hype going. Believe it or not the people are the devs source of encouragment.
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Cm 7 is not the problem.. The nexus kernel will be our only hope.
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To the consumer touchwiz may not seem much. But to sammy it is. There's always some in depth agenda the consumer has no clue about.
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Does that agenda have to do with $$$? Besides it should not be a problem with them people like us only account for less than 5% of the market share anyways.
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Does that agenda have to do with $$$? Besides it should not be a problem with them people like us only account for less than 5% of the market share anyways.
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Its always about money.
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I don't use touchwiz as my launcher but I've come to really appreciate the other small enhancements touchwiz brings.
I might be the only one but I really cannot stand sense.
This phone works great - I don't think it really needs that many more updates.
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I want miui
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ya im really hopin once 2.3 comes out the CM7 team will get everything on track. i agree with the fact CM7 will more than likely be our last hope after 2.3 comes out, atleast for those who want to stay up to date with an older handset which has great hardware regardless. single core or not, epic has been a dream phone to me, especialy coming from the moment(touch pro 2, touch pro, mogul and ppc 6700 before that. i wont ever go all touch, KB is too important for me). the devs on here are great and keep guys like us loving our phones but i also dont forsee ICS coming to the Epic, even though google made an announcement that android phones will be updated to new software at minimum of 18months AFTER release, although that announcment was made more than 6 months after the epic came out. sucks that this phone hasnt even hit the 1 year mark yet and we are already at EOL even on firmware side. hopefully google puts the pressure on the manufacturers AND service providers for these updates regardless of when they announced that. only time will tell guys but regardless i wont buy a phone without a KB. at this point im so satisfied with my epic i can see myself rockin this bad boy for another 3+ years if need be, does what i want, when i want and has one of the best 5-row KB ive ever used. only thing missin on my EE03 is for impaler to make a keyboard fix for these dropped keys lol i miss my speed demon patch, BIG life saver for me. i type as fast if not at times faster on my epic than i do on a regular PC keyboard =P
Love. It I'm using cm7
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Well, even though Samsung and Google have delayed their event, Ice Cream Sandwich is around the corner and the funny thing is that still nothing has been confirmed of its features.
Looking forward to it on your Desire Z?
It'll be nice, but I'm sure not much of a change for day to day use for me. I'm more excited about getting it on my Nook Color.
You should put desire z and g2. But I just want it to be released already. Have you seen the new ics video on the supposed nexus prime?
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Definitely won't be released officially, but that's why we have CyanogenMod and other CM-derived ROMs
I still hope they think of us Desire owners.....
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Isn't there an update supposed to be coming for the DZ? Maybe we'll get the ICS with Sense 3.5...
I think they will . But have you guys downloaded the new ics music app just search for it on the forums. Looks similar to the honeycomb one just a few tweeks here and there
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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I smell Darwin Award....
We all know it wont be released for our phones.
I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Well obviously... But most people on XDA aren't waiting for official OTA updates lol. Go go CM8!!
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I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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Well the issue there was no source code and probably a smaller community. It will be much easier when ICS source drops lol.
Im more excited about all the cool roms the devs are going to make based off ICS!
im sure cyanogenmod 8 will be he BOMB!
According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Makes sense I guess, but I would think since CM8 never existed they'd just do CM8 for ICS.
Yea that would be awesome regardless of the naming scheme. I have yet to flash CM7 but for ICS I would do it in a heartbeat lol.
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According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
Also remember that the 32B was a 192 MB RAM device where only 97 MB was actually available to Linux. This significant upgrade from Android 1.6 to 2.2 required some MEMORY REDISTRIBUTION via new SPL to increase the available RAM to 112 MB. HTC VISION is not starved for RAM as the 32B was. HTC VISION has plenty of space left within the system partition (in fact on mine, there are 262 MB of free space on /system of over 400 total -- clearly intended to leave space for upgrades). Unlike the 32B, the specifications of Vision are far more than adequate, and even with a device as limited as 32B, they made the upgrade.
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
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CM "team", as well as all the other rom cookers out there (yes, they are cookers, Android is written by Google, CM just cooks it and adds in a few goodies.) do a TERRIBLE job of versioning.
I once suggested a much more sensible approach to versioning, which is used by many other downstream open source projects... but they threw a tantrum.
Versioning of Android ROMs should be as follows;
UPSTREAMNAME-UPSTREAMVERSION-DOWNSTREAMREVISION.DOWNSTREAMNAMEVERSION.ARCHITECTURE
Obviously ARCHITECTURE doesn't apply directly, but this could be replaced with DEVICE.
So.... CM7.1 for VISION should be versioned as
android-2.3.7-0.CM7.1.vision
With this, if they make a minor update (that they would normally call CM7.1.1), it would increment the DOWNSTREAMREVISION, so the new version would be android-2.3.7-1.CM7.1.vision.
I.e., the point here would be to keep the priority on the upstream version rather than downstream, because "android-2.3.7" is FAR more important than "CM7.1". Quite frankly, the "CM" version means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Not really.
dhkr234 said:
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
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That was a long time ago. Now, forget it. They already gave up one update. They wont give us another.
Besides HTC is problably planning a new version of Sense for Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Nothing. There is nothing confirmed for Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Google has had it tightly wrapped up.
The only thing we do know that it is Android 4.0
Besides that:
Facial recognition features, new APIs to reduce development fragmentation, a unification of phone and tablet UIs and its APIs.
Nothing else is confirmed with sources beside it.
Would like to see if anyone has a good working port for ics
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As soon as someone has a working port of ICS, I'd imagine it would be the busiest thread in the development sub-forum. So keep an eye out there.
-Nipqer
Settle down. Source code isn't even out yet. And that will probably be November 17 at the earliest since that is the release date of the European Galaxy Nexus. Traditionally, code had been released a couple weeks after a nexus phone. Expect early December.
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Love the write-up posted here...
http://www.willowtreeapps.com/blog/...s-on-ice-cream-sandwich-and-the-galaxy-nexus/
Thank you just excited for the rom
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Of how much I want to see ICS on my beloved G2.. it seems the only way we'll see ICS on the G2 is through the great devs working on a port, because unfortunately according to PC World HERE HTC has the list of phones that will be getting ICS starting next year, and the G2 is no where in the line-up on getting it.
Oh well.. I was thinking about upgrading my phone to a Galaxy Nexus (32gb version).
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Of how much I want to see ICS on my beloved G2.. it seems the only way we'll see ICS on the G2 is through the great devs working on a port, because unfortunately according to PC World HERE HTC has the list of phones that will be getting ICS starting next year, and the G2 is no where in the line-up on getting it.
Oh well.. I was thinking about upgrading my phone to a Galaxy Nexus (32gb version).
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Why would you care if HTC is going to build 4.0 for your phone? HTC builds **SUCK**. They are polluted with a whole bunch of garbage the *looks* like AOSP, but actually is NOT. The HTC VISION is hacked more thoroughly than any other android phone available. It will NOT be a big deal to build a proper AOSP for it.
Just wait for cm 9 and its variants. The nightlies even now are getting closer to ics.
I love a new release as much as the next guy, but I kinda wish the buzz was over. I can't stop trying to give my phone an ice cream feel. And it probably only does a couple things dif. than gingerbread.
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lawalty said:
Of how much I want to see ICS on my beloved G2.. it seems the only way we'll see ICS on the G2 is through the great devs working on a port, because unfortunately according to PC World HERE HTC has the list of phones that will be getting ICS starting next year, and the G2 is no where in the line-up on getting it.
Oh well.. I was thinking about upgrading my phone to a Galaxy Nexus (32gb version).
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Well did you honestly expect HTC to upgrade our phone to ICS officially? lol...
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Why would you care if HTC is going to build 4.0 for your phone? HTC builds **SUCK**. They are polluted with a whole bunch of garbage the *looks* like AOSP, but actually is NOT. The HTC VISION is hacked more thoroughly than any other android phone available. It will NOT be a big deal to build a proper AOSP for it.
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Precisely.
lawalty said:
Of how much I want to see ICS on my beloved G2.. it seems the only way we'll see ICS on the G2 is through the great devs working on a port, because unfortunately according to PC World HERE HTC has the list of phones that will be getting ICS starting next year, and the G2 is no where in the line-up on getting it.
Oh well.. I was thinking about upgrading my phone to a Galaxy Nexus (32gb version).
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I find it funny that many news sites either don't mention it, or repeating it wrong.
HTC was speaking of a first wave.
There is a second wave of phones that will get ICS.
Second wave of phones are not announced until now.
Incredible S, Desire S, Desire HD and Desire Z have very good chances to be on this second list.
Can somebody explain why ICS is so much better than what I have right now? Just wondering?....
Gpu acceleration is the main reason I want it...
http://phandroid.com/2011/11/14/and...ode-available-now-cm9-work-begins-right-away/
Very excited for this!
You beat me by a few seconds. Lol I just read this on Phandroid.
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I hope to be eating an ICS for Thanksgiving!
Can't wait for the roms to start popping up...
cyanogen will get it first. Unless some people and I mean (the awesome team of developers on here) team up and shoot it out like there isn't a tomorrow.
Excited about my EVO again!!!
Can't wait! Having this on the EVO will make me resist upgrading for a while longer!
Waitin' for the EVO version
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Waitin' for the EVO version
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I hope u mean the
unofficial
lol
Don't hold your breath...
I read elsewhere that even with 250gb+ of HD space and 16gb RAM were looking at 5+ hours to compile.
Not to mention all the tweaking that has to happen for the vanilla to work on specific devices.
Aaaahhhh can't wait. Too excited.
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I could see the first CM9 build around the end of December or Mid January. Patience is the key.
Cool
Can't wait
ICS Release
According to: source(dot)android.com (Upper right side of page)
ICS source has already been released.
nightauthor said:
According to: source(dot)android.com (Upper right side of page)
ICS source has already been released.
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Pretty sure that's what "Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich Source Code Available Now!" in the title of the article means
First post for you yay!
Everyone sounds confident that we'll be getting ICS on the Evo. Has there been any confirmation (by the Cyanogen team or otherwise) that this device was going to make the cut? It's getting a bit long in the tooth, phone-wise. I'd love to eek out a few more months of use out of it though. Best phone I've had so far.
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Everyone sounds confident that we'll be getting ICS on the Evo. Has there been any confirmation (by the Cyanogen team or otherwise) that this device was going to make the cut? It's getting a bit long in the tooth, phone-wise. I'd love to eek out a few more months of use out of it though. Best phone I've had so far.
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Cyanogenmod already said they'd work to develop an ICS build [CM 9] but refused to do so until official source was released, which it has been.
Right, but was the Evo 4G specifically mentioned as being supported? CM9 might not (probably won't) be available on all devices that CM7 supports.
It probably won't be supported on something like the Hero or older legacy devices which barely made the cut for CM7. I have a good feeling that the EVO will still get ICS because it hasn't had the life bled out of it yet like the G1 or other highly supported phones.
ive been waiting for this since honeycomb i am so excited and evo should make the cut its not to old of a device probably wont be an official release but still it works
I, like many others am eagerly awating the Ice Cream Sandwich release.
Do we have any solid release dates as well as improvements/changes?
Apart from performance/battery improvements what other improvements/changes will Ice Cream have for us?
All I'm looking for is an even smoother & faster experience, as quck as windows phone 7.5 and if they can fix the lag when sms messaging that would be great.
Any other thoughts on changes/improvements YOU would like to see?
I'd like to see iPhone OS (iPOS) stop ripping off android's features.
That was my troll of the day.
Should just wait. Theres no point of speculating about ice scream update. If there is/will be any info it would be posted.
If your having lag with sms update your device or try handcent out.
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Should just wait. Theres no point of speculating about ice scream update. If there is/will be any info it would be posted.
If your having lag with sms update your device or try handcent out.
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I know theres not point in speculating about Ice Cream Sandwich since were unsure of what it will bring to the table.
My question was WHAT would YOU like it to improve on or what features you'd like it to bring, you know, CHANGES....
I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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****, that's a LONG way away, I hope for the love of god it's WORTH the wait.
For the amount of time it's taken it should come out perfect or near perfect at the very least...
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I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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It was from Samsung Italy if I remember right. But I would say mid-end January maximum.
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imo note is designed for ics. samsung was aiming to release it with ics in early 2012 but too much interest from the market made them release earlier. but google (and maybe samsung) wants nexus chrome to be the first ics phone on the market so they cant release it with ics. so i think gingerbread roms for note are just for waste time until the google and samsung decides nexus did fine. and as i believe samsung aimed ics for the note i think they are not spending much time on gingerbread roms for note. so when ics is realeased i am expecting everything to be improved.
Whilst ICS will undoubtedly bring all sorts of improvements to the Note, until such time that a decent ecosystem of Honeycomb/ICS apps is built up (and remember, there aren't a great deal of Honeycomb specific tablet apps either), the vast majority of apps are still targeting 2.x iterations (Gingerbread, Froyo etc) of Android, which means that 2.x apps are likely to be de rigueur for some time yet.
I'm as keen as the next guy to get ICS onto my Android devices (Note, GTab, Transformer etc), but without application support it really doesn't matter too much.
Enjoy the Note for what it is today, not what it may be tomorrow!
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Dave
I am interested in knowing how the hardware (including touch) buttons will fit into the ICS UI. AFAIK, ICS has Back-Home-Recent-etc buttons on the 'always visible' taskbar within the screen. So unless there is a modified interface for phones there will be some redundancy.
Anyone knows how this will be handled?
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I am interested in knowing how the hardware (including touch) buttons will fit into the ICS UI. AFAIK, ICS has Back-Home-Recent-etc buttons on the 'always visible' taskbar within the screen. So unless there is a modified interface for phones there will be some redundancy.
Anyone knows how this will be handled?
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As far as I know (at least that's what I saw on Desire Android Development for ICS ROMs) that 'always visible' bar can be "disabled", at least the keys on it. Some more experienced user may correct me tho
The on-screen-buttons will not be visible on devices with hardware buttons/touch buttons. I guess they can easily be enabled, but i do not see the point of doing that.
ICS for Galaxy Note
I heard ICS for Note will come on 2nd quarter. Still waiting for the release.
Also Galaxy SIII is coming with ICS4. is there any major firmware difference in Note and SIII? Why we cant use the same for Note and release the official release?
And I thought that we already have a sticky for these kind of discussions!!
ICS will be released soon and it will give few new functionality to the note..
some are as following:-
1 it will upgrade the proc by 9 cores (Intel Hardcore neon x9)
2 it will search for appropriate forums for you and automatically post in the right forums
SUCH AS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490986
Please post all ICS speculation info in the above mentioned thread !!
Meanwhile
Calling the dark forces : ORIGINAL_GANJAMAN where art thou???????
Was the ICS update for the S2 a wipe upgrade?
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kanej2006 said:
I, like many others am eagerly awating the Ice Cream Sandwich release.
Do we have any solid release dates as well as improvements/changes?
Apart from performance/battery improvements what other improvements/changes will Ice Cream have for us?
All I'm looking for is an even smoother & faster experience, as quck as windows phone 7.5 and if they can fix the lag when sms messaging that would be great.
Any other thoughts on changes/improvements YOU would like to see?
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Samsung never announces release dates in advance. We didn't get a real advance release date for S2, we won't have it for this device.
We don't know what to expect... Right now all leaks have Superbrick kernels, I suspect that's one of the things slowing down ICS for every device but the S2. Samsung tried to add some performance tweaks and FAILED MISERABLY and they're trying to figure out what the **** they broke now.
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The on-screen-buttons will not be visible on devices with hardware buttons/touch buttons. I guess they can easily be enabled, but i do not see the point of doing that.
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Nope - they're an utter waste of screen space on devices with hardware keys.
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