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how soon till you think 2.3 is leaked

we all know its going to happen but how soon till we see the leaks

Leaks? It's already officially out. Nexus One's are receiving the update as we speak. As for an EVO specific leak from HTC/Sprint, who knows..I'm sure the devs will have something out soon if there aren't any major hardware changes / requirements.

SDK is out NOT a working rom its no "leaked" pushed yet to the nexus 1

This update sucks for me if it doesn't fix the CPU problem of almost maxing out when scrolling which causes scrolling to be laggy. If they don't fix this by the time my next upgrade comes up I'm switching to a Windows phone. I want a smooth interface.

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SDK is out NOT a working rom its no "leaked" pushed yet to the nexus 1
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I guess I'm not following.
According to Engadget, Gingerbread, 2.3, is running on Nexus One's. They've received the OTA update.
Although, they may have been wrong and pulled the article and didn't say anything, since
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/android-2-3-update-now-rolling-out-to-nexus-one-owners/
no longer appears to be a valid link, but it was just a half hour ago.
I think this is what it said:
Nexus One owners feeling a little Nexus S envy can breathe a little easier -- we're hearing that Android 2,3 Gingerbread is being pushed out to the N1 as we speak. We'd imagine that all the slick new features that don't require new hardware (like NFC support) will be there, and we're definitely interested in playing with this built-in WiFi calling stack.
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the latest ota pushed to the nexus was just a minor update i don't think it was 2.3

Sirchuk said:
I guess I'm not following.
According to Engadget, Gingerbread, 2.3, is running on Nexus One's. They've received the OTA update.
Although, they may have been wrong and pulled the article and didn't say anything, since
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/android-2-3-update-now-rolling-out-to-nexus-one-owners/
no longer appears to be a valid link, but it was just a half hour ago.
I think this is what it said:
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That might have been an old link where the nexus one got a security update and people jumped the gun on calling gingerbread

Looks like Engadget was wrong and pulled the story. Nobody can confirm that 2.3 is out it seems, though some have tried to get their N1's to update.
Way to go Engadget, wrong information with no clarification. At least post a "Oops, we were wrong" update or something.
The N1 forums are saying it will be out on/around the 16th.
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Think they heard me:
Update: Looks like our flood of tips came from people who were seeing their N1s get a different, less-interesting update -- we'll let you know when the actual 2.3 update roll out. Ah, the heady optimism of hope.
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One of the main guys on the Android team tweeted that no ota was released for the nexus one and that the source would be released in the "coming weeks". My bet is that the first rom with working Gingerbread on it will be Cyanogen and within a few weeks of the source being released.

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One of the main guys on the Android team tweeted that no ota was released for the nexus one and that the source would be released in the "coming weeks". My bet is that the first rom with working Gingerbread on it will be Cyanogen and within a few weeks of the source being released.
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Yup, for our EVOs CM is the best bet and that will be AFTER the source (not to be confused with the Nexus One OTA) is released.

Award Tour said:
Yup, for our EVOs CM is the best bet and that will be AFTER the source (not to be confused with the Nexus One OTA) is released.
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Any sense rom will have to wait till a 2.3 gingerbread source is released by HTC which could be a while, if ever. Cyanogen is already on 2.35.9 kernel which hopefully means that porting their work to 2.3 shouldn't be that hard to do.

drmacinyasha said:
I'm going to say this once to head off the countless sheep who will ask...
Do not ask when Gingerbread will make it to the EVO.
Seriously, how the hell would any of us know? We're not psychics, we're not secret HTC/Sprint/Google/CIA/Mafia/Former KGB/NSA employees, we can't predict the future, so why on God's green Earth would you ask us?
Shut up, sit down, twiddle your thumbs, and wait for a press release from Sprint, HTC, Google, etc. announcing that Gingerbread will or will not be ported to the EVO. If you really want Gingerbread, go help Team Douche port it to be CyanogenMod 7. That's the most guaranteed way to get it to our phones.
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10 characters.

donatom3 said:
Any sense rom will have to wait till a 2.3 gingerbread source is released by HTC which could be a while, if ever. Cyanogen is already on 2.35.9 kernel which hopefully means that porting their work to 2.3 shouldn't be that hard to do.
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Not sure if there's any confusion with what I think I read from your post but.. I'm talking about the AOSP source not the HTC source. That'll probably take a month or so after the Nexus One OTA to be released and then another month or so before CM releases a RC of CM7/2.3.

apollooff320 said:
This update sucks for me if it doesn't fix the CPU problem of almost maxing out when scrolling which causes scrolling to be laggy. If they don't fix this by the time my next upgrade comes up I'm switching to a Windows phone. I want a smooth interface.
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windows phone? are you on crack?

I'm guessing you won't see a Sprint/HTC Gingerbread ROM until sometime next year. Rumor has the source code being released when the Nexus S ships which is allegedly on Dec 16. Expect AOSP based Gingerbread ROMs to start rolling out around then and an Official Sprint ROM after sometime well after that, after its been thoroughly QA'd.

CM7 The Only Hope For Epic 4G?

As this community slowly declines one can't help but think, is CM7 the only thing we have left to look forward to?

I don't know if we can or not. We managed to troll/eta ourselves into getting the thread closed.
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Not really i mean we've got ACS... Bonsai ...MidNight.... Nebula (hopefully)... MIUI .... all this should kick off shortly.
but i mean after gingerbread... then what ? Gingerbread is already pretty old so i mean...

I don't know guys, maybe samsprint will surprise us.
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As much a my phone would love some ice cream sandwich, I highly doubt samsprint will officially support it for the epic. While gingerbread was a nice treat (pun intended). I beielve this will be the last official update. But hey hopefully the devs can work some magic...if there are ay left by then!
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Reaction to Official GB will Reveal All
I suspect the reaction to the official gingerbread release will tell us. I suspect we'll see a flurry of the standard players after the GB release, Bonsai (my favorite), ACS, etc. However, they will quickly reach the point where they have done all they can do, (i.e. applied all the currently known tweaks/patches).
After that, it's really CM. CM7 development (based on commits) seems to have slowed a bit after a flurrish at the end of May. If the CM7 team is able to get it stable based on the official GB source, the Epic can then ride the CM train for a while. If that doesn't happen, I expect 1-2 revisions of tweeked ROMs based on GB from each team, particularly Bonsai and ACS and then development on the Epic will be done.

More tasty deserts with CM7.
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I suspect the reaction to the official gingerbread release will tell us. I suspect we'll see a flurry of the standard players after the GB release, Bonsai (my favorite), ACS, etc. However, they will quickly reach the point where they have done all they can do, (i.e. applied all the currently known tweaks/patches).
After that, it's really CM. CM7 development (based on commits) seems to have slowed a bit after a flurrish at the end of May. If the CM7 team is able to get it stable based on the official GB source, the Epic can then ride the CM train for a while. If that doesn't happen, I expect 1-2 revisions of tweeked ROMs based on GB from each team, particularly Bonsai and ACS and then development on the Epic will be done.
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I agree if we are lucky we may get an ice cream sammich. With CM7 we can get timely upgrades of more tasty deserts like jelly beans, kiwi pudding, lemon meringue pie, etc, etc....

Not even looking at icecream sandwitch, if we get to CM7, we will not just get major updates, but we'll get regular, minor releases as well. Those can provide additional featuers. (I'd personally LOVE to get the granular permissions control thats being added to CM7.) If we don't get to CM7, we can dream about ICS, but in reality, we're unlikely to get features and instead only get ROM tweeks (and kernel modules).

Also we will have continued development and not have development stop because of lack of source code. That is what I hate most about not being on cyanogenmod. With the lawsuit with apple Samsung should seriously consider working more with cyanogenmod and just dump touch wiz all together. In my opinion touch wiz is not all that impressive and serious limits the phone's compatibility.

jamice4u said:
I agree if we are lucky we may get an ice cream sammich. With CM7 we can get timely upgrades of more tasty deserts like jelly beans, kiwi pudding, lemon meringue pie, etc, etc....
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+1 charrrrrrr LMMMMAO!!!!!!!!
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jamice4u said:
Also we will have continued development and not have development stop because of lack of source code. That is what I hate most about not being on cyanogenmod. With the lawsuit with apple Samsung should seriously consider working more with cyanogenmod and just dump touch wiz all together. In my opinion touch wiz is not all that impressive and serious limits the phone's compatibility.
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To the consumer touchwiz may not seem much. But to sammy it is. There's always some in depth agenda the consumer has no clue about.
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I believe that after GB we have no other updates coming for the Epic (official at least). But we manage to get CM, that would change the appeal of the phone, and would be a retention factor for many.

megabiteg said:
I believe that after GB we have no other updates coming for the Epic (official at least). But we manage to get CM, that would change the appeal of the phone, and would be a retention factor for many.
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I believe something of a sort aswell my friend. But the CM7 team will have a fully functional release by the end of the summer. I'm positive. Then will have a lot more activity going on with the epic community once again. Just have patience and encourage our developers. Donate. And keep the hype going. Believe it or not the people are the devs source of encouragment.
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Cm 7 is not the problem.. The nexus kernel will be our only hope.

Custodian said:
To the consumer touchwiz may not seem much. But to sammy it is. There's always some in depth agenda the consumer has no clue about.
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Does that agenda have to do with $$$? Besides it should not be a problem with them people like us only account for less than 5% of the market share anyways.

jamice4u said:
Does that agenda have to do with $$$? Besides it should not be a problem with them people like us only account for less than 5% of the market share anyways.
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Its always about money.
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I don't use touchwiz as my launcher but I've come to really appreciate the other small enhancements touchwiz brings.
I might be the only one but I really cannot stand sense.
This phone works great - I don't think it really needs that many more updates.
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I want miui
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ya im really hopin once 2.3 comes out the CM7 team will get everything on track. i agree with the fact CM7 will more than likely be our last hope after 2.3 comes out, atleast for those who want to stay up to date with an older handset which has great hardware regardless. single core or not, epic has been a dream phone to me, especialy coming from the moment(touch pro 2, touch pro, mogul and ppc 6700 before that. i wont ever go all touch, KB is too important for me). the devs on here are great and keep guys like us loving our phones but i also dont forsee ICS coming to the Epic, even though google made an announcement that android phones will be updated to new software at minimum of 18months AFTER release, although that announcment was made more than 6 months after the epic came out. sucks that this phone hasnt even hit the 1 year mark yet and we are already at EOL even on firmware side. hopefully google puts the pressure on the manufacturers AND service providers for these updates regardless of when they announced that. only time will tell guys but regardless i wont buy a phone without a KB. at this point im so satisfied with my epic i can see myself rockin this bad boy for another 3+ years if need be, does what i want, when i want and has one of the best 5-row KB ive ever used. only thing missin on my EE03 is for impaler to make a keyboard fix for these dropped keys lol i miss my speed demon patch, BIG life saver for me. i type as fast if not at times faster on my epic than i do on a regular PC keyboard =P

Love. It I'm using cm7
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The "Ice Cream Sandwich Desire Z waiting" thread

Well, even though Samsung and Google have delayed their event, Ice Cream Sandwich is around the corner and the funny thing is that still nothing has been confirmed of its features.
Looking forward to it on your Desire Z?

It'll be nice, but I'm sure not much of a change for day to day use for me. I'm more excited about getting it on my Nook Color.

You should put desire z and g2. But I just want it to be released already. Have you seen the new ics video on the supposed nexus prime?
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.

rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Definitely won't be released officially, but that's why we have CyanogenMod and other CM-derived ROMs

I still hope they think of us Desire owners.....
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Isn't there an update supposed to be coming for the DZ? Maybe we'll get the ICS with Sense 3.5...

I think they will . But have you guys downloaded the new ics music app just search for it on the forums. Looks similar to the honeycomb one just a few tweeks here and there
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rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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I smell Darwin Award....
We all know it wont be released for our phones.

I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!

rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Well obviously... But most people on XDA aren't waiting for official OTA updates lol. Go go CM8!!
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I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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Well the issue there was no source code and probably a smaller community. It will be much easier when ICS source drops lol.

Im more excited about all the cool roms the devs are going to make based off ICS!
im sure cyanogenmod 8 will be he BOMB!

According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source

C.Flat said:
According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Makes sense I guess, but I would think since CM8 never existed they'd just do CM8 for ICS.

Yea that would be awesome regardless of the naming scheme. I have yet to flash CM7 but for ICS I would do it in a heartbeat lol.

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According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today

I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
Also remember that the 32B was a 192 MB RAM device where only 97 MB was actually available to Linux. This significant upgrade from Android 1.6 to 2.2 required some MEMORY REDISTRIBUTION via new SPL to increase the available RAM to 112 MB. HTC VISION is not starved for RAM as the 32B was. HTC VISION has plenty of space left within the system partition (in fact on mine, there are 262 MB of free space on /system of over 400 total -- clearly intended to leave space for upgrades). Unlike the 32B, the specifications of Vision are far more than adequate, and even with a device as limited as 32B, they made the upgrade.
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
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CM "team", as well as all the other rom cookers out there (yes, they are cookers, Android is written by Google, CM just cooks it and adds in a few goodies.) do a TERRIBLE job of versioning.​
I once suggested a much more sensible approach to versioning, which is used by many other downstream open source projects... but they threw a tantrum.
Versioning of Android ROMs should be as follows;
UPSTREAMNAME-UPSTREAMVERSION-DOWNSTREAMREVISION.DOWNSTREAMNAMEVERSION.ARCHITECTURE
Obviously ARCHITECTURE doesn't apply directly, but this could be replaced with DEVICE.
So.... CM7.1 for VISION should be versioned as
android-2.3.7-0.CM7.1.vision
With this, if they make a minor update (that they would normally call CM7.1.1), it would increment the DOWNSTREAMREVISION, so the new version would be android-2.3.7-1.CM7.1.vision.
I.e., the point here would be to keep the priority on the upstream version rather than downstream, because "android-2.3.7" is FAR more important than "CM7.1". Quite frankly, the "CM" version means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?

killj0y said:
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Not really.

dhkr234 said:
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
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That was a long time ago. Now, forget it. They already gave up one update. They wont give us another.
Besides HTC is problably planning a new version of Sense for Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Nothing. There is nothing confirmed for Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Google has had it tightly wrapped up.
The only thing we do know that it is Android 4.0
Besides that:
Facial recognition features, new APIs to reduce development fragmentation, a unification of phone and tablet UIs and its APIs.
Nothing else is confirmed with sources beside it.

Atrix ICS

I know its early but has anyone heard anything about getting an official ICS on the Atrix?
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not as of yet but there's an awesone ICS theme on the market that works perfectly over CM ¬B^¬N.

This was discussed in depth in several different threads go here http://www.motorola.com/blog/2011/10/24/ice-cream-and-bootloaders-and-motorola-–-oh-my/. Most likely it will not recieve ics but click the link and keep checking it. Or if u dont feel like clicking it heres what it says.. A note about Ice Cream Sandwich: We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR™ by Motorola, Motorola RAZR™, Motorola XOOM™ and DROID BIONIC™ by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices

I dont understand why the atrix shouldnt get the 4.0 update when we have great top shelf specs but i bet the sensation will get it and we have the same processor speed but the atrix has more ram so were more then capable of running 4.0 but i guess because the atrix 2 is out thats a shame will we get it with cyanogen tho?

Yes we will get it with cm9 its an officially cyanogenmod supported device but the atrix 2 kay not even get it. But both might as well not anytime soon though. They want too release new devices with ics so people will buy them and they make more money. They dont make money updating current phones too ics

Still no GB here in UK & I doubt it ever will - So no chance ICS.
Motorola are too lazy & want you to buy a new phone with each software update - So I am gonna do that - I'm getting the Galaxy Nexus. Stuff moto

I don't think most of us are too concerned about an "official" ICS from Moto..but rather getting a port of some sort.

1. Wrong section.
2. There are many threads about this already.
3. Please view motorola's official website about upgrades for future reference.
4. Motorola only stated that 4 devices, excluding Atrix 4G and Atrix 2 will get ICS but did also mentioned that it is possible that other devices MIGHT be added to this list.
5. CM9 can get us a port but the drivers will not be optimized for ICS as Motorola has to optimize them for ICE first. Therefore, even if we get a ported version it won't work at it's full potential.
6. Please close this thread.
7. Happy Halloween.
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Jibraldor said:
1. Wrong section.
2. There are many threads about this already.
3. Please view motorola's official website about upgrades for future reference.
That
4. Motorola only stated that 4 devices, excluding Atrix 4G and Atrix 2 will get ICS but did also mentioned that it is possible that other devices MIGHT be added to this list.
5. CM9 can get us a port but the drivers will not be optimized for ICS as Motorola has to optimize them for ICE first. Therefore, even if we get a ported version it won't work at it's full potential.
6. Please close this thread.
7. Happy Halloween.
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That is exactly what I already said but thanks

silver03wrx said:
That is exactly what I already said but thanks
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yeah but bullet points are easier

dLo GSR said:
yeah but bullet points are easier
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that's a list not bullets

PLEASE tell me the Atrix will get Jellybean!!

Mabye fruit cake but rumor is only in San Francisco. Jellybean is doubtfull

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Mabye fruit cake but rumor is only in San Francisco. Jellybean is doubtfull
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Okay. what about Krispy Kreme?

Wow lol that was a joke haha think about it fruit cake San Fran lol

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Wow lol that was a joke haha think about it fruit cake San Fran lol
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I know I was joking too lol, sarcasm and text...

I don't really like the OTA update anymore after installing cyanogenmod and MUI. Thos are awesome.

Fantrix said:
I don't really like the OTA update anymore after installing cyanogenmod and MUI. Thos are awesome.
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This is only because you have not tried Android 5.03 (Chocolate Fish and Chips).
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Atrix will have fully fledged and optimized cm9. Nvidia said they are releasing all ics source for kernels etc. for both tegra2 and tegra3.
Close the thread.

Magnetox said:
Atrix will have fully fledged and optimized cm9. Nvidia said they are releasing all ics source for kernels etc. for both tegra2 and tegra3.
Close the thread.
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Show me where youd seen that. My friend from google told me nvidia doesnt want to release ICS source to tegra2, we may have ICS, but only after all the OMAP phones have ICS already, too much mess to motorola to be they priority for now.
Im other words, IF we get ICS, will be only in 6 months or more
Now you can close this thread if you want to.
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Time to troll HTC again?

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...ist-which-phones-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich/
So where's ICS for the Shift, HTC?

We might as well start getting on them now since they held out forever on the kernel source. The shift is so under rated still.

I don't really see us "officially" getting ICS. Like Sparksco said, the Shift is severely underappreciated.
I do know we have a couple devs working on it though...

I think its a very possible we will see one because
At first I would have said no way we would get it when HTC released Sense 3.0 which only supported Dual-Core devices. That would make you think any later version after 3.0 would also be a definite no and we will never see ICS (officially for the shift) and we know HTC will have to update Sense UI to a later version for ICS
But then again now HTC released Sense 3.5 on devices which is optimized to run on Single Core phones so now if they do update Sense it leaves room to think maybe their next iteration of sense will be compatible with lower end phones to (don't take that to context to much the shift IS very powerful)
We might also see an update like the EVO got when it recieved gingerbread. It got the firmware upgrade to gingerbread but HTC still kept it at 1.0
So their is always the possibility it could be our turn for that.
and now with the Handset alliance thing which HTC is apart of I believe, part of the ruling is you have to support a device for 18 months with latest updates as long as hardware allows.
If anything we know we will be waiting longer than most devices out there anyway if we do end up getting it. The phone is underappreciated a lot, just like the article says (to be honest I was suprised they even mentioned it)
But yea its basically time to start bugging HTC as much as we possibly can for some kind of update. I know I will start

crump84 said:
I don't really see us "officially" getting ICS. Like Sparksco said, the Shift is severely underappreciated.
I do know we have a couple devs working on it though...
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I love you crumpy but that wasn't the question!

VICODAN said:
I love you crumpy but that wasn't the question!
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Haha.. well to answer your question.. Trololol away..

*puts on troll hat*

VICODAN said:
*puts on troll hat*
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Let us know what they say and I'll also ask htcdev about it on twitter
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Let us know what they say and I'll also ask htcdev about it on twitter
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https://www.facebook.com/htcusa/posts/231659726902311

Official response from HTC USA on Facebook:
Hey guys. If you haven't seen our latest note on ICS, you can catch it here. http://on.fb.me/vSPMMr We will be announcing more phones later so just because it hasn't been announced yet doesn't mean that it won't be in the future.

Trolling HTC is utterly useless. They're not in charge of whether or not we get an official ICS update. If you must troll someone, troll Sprint. To that end, it's really not worth it IMO. Trolling for the kernel source was warranted, because GPL requires them to release it. They're not required to release ICS and honestly, I doubt they will when they could spend that time and money on more popular phones. I love my little shifty but am not in denial of it's popularity. Who really cares if we get an official update? Most of us would end up running a custom version of it anyway and at this rate, we'll see CM9 or other AOSP builds before long. Hell, toast already says he's got a source build running great, it's only a matter of time. Why pull your hair out waiting for an official update?

HTCotta said:
Trolling HTC is utterly useless. They're not in charge of whether or not we get an official ICS update. If you must troll someone, troll Sprint. To that end, it's really not worth it IMO. Trolling for the kernel source was warranted, because GPL requires them to release it. They're not required to release ICS and honestly, I doubt they will when they could spend that time and money on more popular phones. I love my little shifty but am not in denial of it's popularity. Who really cares if we get an official update? Most of us would end up running a custom version of it anyway and at this rate, we'll see CM9 or other AOSP builds before long. Hell, toast already says he's got a source build running great, it's only a matter of time. Why pull your hair out waiting for an official update?
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Either way we're still waiting. The G1 and other older phones have a more working funtional rom or ICS then we do.
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HTCotta said:
Trolling HTC is utterly useless. They're not in charge of whether or not we get an official ICS update. If you must troll someone, troll Sprint. To that end, it's really not worth it IMO. Trolling for the kernel source was warranted, because GPL requires them to release it. They're not required to release ICS and honestly, I doubt they will when they could spend that time and money on more popular phones. I love my little shifty but am not in denial of it's popularity. Who really cares if we get an official update? Most of us would end up running a custom version of it anyway and at this rate, we'll see CM9 or other AOSP builds before long. Hell, toast already says he's got a source build running great, it's only a matter of time. Why pull your hair out waiting for an official update?
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Useless? We got GB kernel source code fairly quickly once we started trolling them. It is important we get an official update from HTC more than you know.

GB source code was always coming, we were quite literally entitled to it (GPL). This is not the case with an ICS update. I know that getting an official update helps immensely, but we're certainly not gonna get one by trolling HTC. It's Sprint's decision.

VICODAN said:
Useless? We got GB kernel source code fairly quickly once we started trolling them. It is important we get an official update from HTC more than you know.
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Yes your right it is important that we get a official update. A new kernel could really help a lot even if it was a sense kernel.
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HTCotta said:
GB source code was always coming, we were quite literally entitled to it (GPL). This is not the case with an ICS update. I know that getting an official update helps immensely, but we're certainly not gonna get one by trolling HTC. It's Sprint's decision.
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It's not just sprints choice. It's a partnership between sprint and htc. We just need to express that we do want a official update to htc because htc will listen to us, and might come up with something with sprint. Sprint will not listen to us about a official update because all the do is tell htc which phones are more popular and which ones they think should get the updates first, and then htc goes on it's happy way to make a update. Meanwhile they throw in some of sprints apps (big deal). Htc does most of the work. They do all the kernels, and most of the rom development.
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