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Help! No sound without headset

Please help me!!!!
this morning my XDA2 has decided that the speaker and microphone sholld be switched off permenently! :x
I believe that it thinks the headset is plugged in - but it isnt!!! (i dont use bluetooth)
I hev tried a soft reset and a hard reset (and also plugging and unplugging the headset)
Please help me - I only like to use the headset when listening to my tunes.
PS i spoke to the O2 data support helpdesk at 60p / min and it took them about 5 minutes to suggest that a soft / hard reset might cure it, otherwise they are clueless.
Is there any way to manually chage the profile from headset to normal handheld????
thanks!
PS my device i nearly 1 yr old - is this the kind of thing that I can expect to occurr more frequently as my XDA2 goes into old age?

i had this problem with my XDA 1. I had no idea what was going on but remembered it working last time i had the headphones in. A soft reset didn't fix it for me either. what DID fix it was ramming the headphone jack in and out really fast. After a few attempts it came back to normal I guess have to 'undo' the problem the headphone caused when it was in there.

:lol: :lol: hehehehe :lol: :lol:
It works!!!!
8)
cheers dude!

Speaker and microphone silent because of headphone
Hello,
Glad you got everything working again..
Just a quick note - I was in a motorcylce accident recently and had my PPC in my pocket, - it was damaged at the the area of the headphone jack, which came loose, and caused exactly the problem you described.
To fix it I had to open the PPC up (instructions are available elsewhere in this forum) and then resolder the headphone socket to the PPC - Now it works fine again.
The upshot of this is that I think the microphone and speaker turining off when the headphone is plugged in is hard wired in - and also the headphone jack is quite delicate - it is only held on to the PC board by the solder connection of about 6 legs, and has 2 very small plastic locating pins, so go carefully with the jamming the headphones in and out.
Also when mine came loose - the back left of the 6 legs broke off - and without that connected back it still never produced sound through the speaker or mic., so it would be possible to permanently wire that in to make sound go both ways.

Mine is mute too did you do anything or did it just fix itself?

It eventually fixed after a couple of hard resets - first one didnt work, but after using the headset for a bit, i got the stuff from O2 to send it back for a repair. when u reset it again the problem was fixed. I reckon threatening it with surgery scared it into submission!

I had the same Prob at every Time who i hit my XDAII, or if it fall down.
After that i must push & hit it again,- sometimes 15-20 Times(!) and after that it works normal. It´s an "cold" point on the board,- the O2 Hotline knows this...

Re: Speaker and microphone silent because of headphone
siezear said:
Hello,
Glad you got everything working again..
Just a quick note - I was in a motorcylce accident recently and had my PPC in my pocket, - it was damaged at the the area of the headphone jack, which came loose, and caused exactly the problem you described.
To fix it I had to open the PPC up (instructions are available elsewhere in this forum) and then resolder the headphone socket to the PPC - Now it works fine again.
The upshot of this is that I think the microphone and speaker turining off when the headphone is plugged in is hard wired in - and also the headphone jack is quite delicate - it is only held on to the PC board by the solder connection of about 6 legs, and has 2 very small plastic locating pins, so go carefully with the jamming the headphones in and out.
Also when mine came loose - the back left of the 6 legs broke off - and without that connected back it still never produced sound through the speaker or mic., so it would be possible to permanently wire that in to make sound go both ways.
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Same problem from yesterday! ..it is the jack ..if I move it down with the stylus ..the audio returns to the speaker..uff..
I don' wanna open it and solder.. too lazy..lol

Dead speaker
I have the exact same fault as described
only after losing about 3 calls did i realise it was the xda2 not some nutter that wouldn't speak!
fixed it with putting the headphone jack in then out etc..... 15 times!
it would seem like this is a design fault! as it is coming up to year for the xda2 should we organise o2 to recall the xda2's and repair this fault!

So I have this problem - only thing is Im in the USA at the mo and didnt bring my headset - is there any other fix as Im kinda stuck ?
Nigel

Husband had same problem.
Changing ring tone fixed it. Don't know why. Don't know how, but it fixed it!

Re: Husband had same problem.
guest said:
Changing ring tone fixed it. Don't know why. Don't know how, but it fixed it!
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I have the same problem, after calling with a headset, now my sound has gone ( Out of complete my XDA II ). Changing the ringtone didn't work for me...I am going to try to test the plug/headset way!

After 12 times my sound came back...so it worked for me!!! :lol:

It's the headphone Jack!
The problem is with the headphone jack!
I have had the same problem for months, sometimes it would stay without sound, always when I dropped it. Usually it returned after 1 or two days, but the last time I dropped it it seemed to be final... I've had no sound for more than a week - I'm using it as a PDA...
Reading the posts above, I decided to insert the pen in the headphone socket (as I don't have the headphones here with me), move it around carefully, and it wroked! Right now, it feels like magic, but that's it - I will probably have to get it fixed permanently, but for now it will do!

well i always have that problem in my phones... because i always hook them in my car stereo by the headset output.. and constant using of the output somehow makes the insides of it dirty.. believe me its dust.. a tooth pick would be very effective as it takes the dirt away.. blowing in sometimes work...

mine is also soundless
i was able to get some dust out of it....
but it won't work....
i don't have the nerves to ramm the headphones in....but isn't there another safer way to fix it....
plz let me know, (hard resettet 5 times.... won't work..)
btw, i tried to put some new updates on it....
but i can't find any, (i searched, but couldn't find anything...)
device information:
Rom Version: 4.01.12 ENG
Rom date: 12/22/03
Radio Version: 4.21.00
Protocol version: 32S54
It's a little bit out of date...that's why i need new ones (i think)
h0t_sh0t

bringing it to the accredited local shop would be the safest way.. maybe there's more dust in there.. you can also rewire it again.. like opening the PPC and soldering back some pins.. (if some pins broke off ..)

Same thing happened to my jam too.
Problem is; there's a little switch in your headphone socket, when you plug your headset it turns off the external sound, and when u unplug it should normally turn on the external sound. But if the switch is locked, it does not recognize that u unplug your headphone.
My solution is, plug-unplug your headset's plug (or something thinner is better) several times in different angles carefully to your socket try to touch the switch while your're playing something. Till u hear the external sound.
Mine is ok now.
(Sorry about my bad English)

I had the same problem. I sprayed a little WD-40 on the tip of my headphones... pushed it in and out for a couple of times and viola!

first question...
what's wd-40??
second question...
when i put my earphones in, i can hear everything...but I can't speak...
but when I unplug my earphones, and I scream in my xda... I can hear a little bit what i'm saying when i plug my earphones back in.
but it's very crappy sound, and when I slam (not to hard of course) my xda with the mic onto my desk (while recording) and i listen to it again, i can hear the drums....(the slamming) but I can't talk in it while using my headset...
has anybody had this before...?
third thing...
My uncle bought the XDA in Singapore about 2 years ago (when it just came out) so when i'd like to bring it back.... i'd have to fligh all the way to Singapore. (does anybody know a good shop/store who sells/repairs XDA phones...??? or is there anybody who can do this....?
thnx for all the help
h0t_Sh0t

HELP! exec 'stuck' in headset mode cant hear calls

Hi,
My exec is stuck in headset mode, it appears to think the handsfree is still plugged in and will only use the headset mic and earpiece even if not plugged in. I've tried a soft reset to no avail and i really dont want to do a hard reset as i have no way of backing anything up at the moment.
Any suggestions?
thanks in advance
Brodie

This is a fault that goes all the way back to the original devices...
The way to fix it is to get your headset jack, and try various ways of quickly but forcefully unplugging it. Happened to me the other night and eventually I managed to force it to recognise the headset was removed and it came back out of the speaker.
Cheers
Ant

sorted now, not sure if it was unplugging or not but i made & recieved some calls and unplugged it and it works!
thanks for the speedy reply and solution.
cheers
Brodie

I also have this problem today....but I dropped my xda exec on the ground and then all the sound is gone.....only headset and bluetooth are worked....
I think I damage the phone somehow.......
But I will still use it...

Anton.Valleyman said:
This is a fault that goes all the way back to the original devices...
The way to fix it is to get your headset jack, and try various ways of quickly but forcefully unplugging it. Happened to me the other night and eventually I managed to force it to recognise the headset was removed and it came back out of the speaker.
Cheers
Ant
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Thanx Anton. My XDA experienced the same problem and I was veeeeerrrrrry sad about it.
Then I came across your suggestion and, BINGO! It worked.

*Sorry for the duplicate post*
This just started happening on my JasJar today (system audio returned after poking the headset in/out a few times), after 11 months of use. Does this get worse over time? Should I bite the bullet and try to get Imate to repair it?
Please advise!

Damn it, I've got the same problem since yesterday
I can hear calls in handsfree mode (using the built-it handsfree mode) and with an earphone plugged in but not through the speaker besides the display.
Strangely, the internal mic works well (I mean, the called person can hear me). Is it the same problem you're talking about or has my speaker just collapsed? :?
.ox
EDIT: I've noticed that only the speaker above the display seems to be muted. The one on the backside of the display and the two speakers in the main body (when using handsfree mode) work. So I guess, the speaker's dead, isn't it?
2nd EDIT: After plugging a headphone in and out about 20 times and applying pressure on the display receiver it suddenly started to work again. I'm not sure what was causing this problem but even a hard reset didn't fix it so I guess it's a hardware (or firmware) related issue.

Same Problem
After working fine for months, with and without the earplug, my MDA Pro has started do the same thing--it's stuck in earplug mode. I've tried plugging/unplugging the earplug for about five times in a row--didn't help. Do I really have to do this 20 times? Jeez--I'm afraid of messing up something else. Could there be another solution? UPDATE: I just now tried plugging/unplugging 20 times--no help!

OK, the solution is the same as that for the loose USB port--send the MDA Pro to the fine folks at Pocket PC Techs and let them fix it. They replaced the earplug jack and got the unit to work perfectly with and without the earplugs. $75 plus shipping. They misplaced my stylus, but sent me a new one right away. I'm very happy with their service.

I've had this kind of problem with a Nokia 8310 which I've carried for three years. I believe it is a physical problem with the headphone socket which may be caused by lateral force on the jack while plugged in inside a pocket. Wiggling and unplugging the jack repeatedly makes the phone socket work properly. There is a small switch inside made out of a metal spring. All you need to do is wiggle it.
The phones which go silent after being dropped may be a different matter.

Help! Big problems with all audio!

Hi
First post here so please excuse any ignorance.
O2 XDA Exec - standard Rom from O2 website.
Problem started a few hours ago after using the audio out for listening to music via mediaplayer.
My unit was working fine while playing, but later after it had been disconnceted from the stereo I noted that there were no tap sounds.
I first checked the audio settings, all normal the way I always have them.
Next I tried the reset button on the back of the unit, no help there.
I tried plugging in the headphones in and there is perfectly normal audio over the headphone but once removed nothing at all.
Getting more extreme I tried a rom update/fresh start, no luck there either.
Getting even more hardcore I downloaded the assembly/disassembly pdf from this forum to check if there was a physical fault with the 3.5mm audio port. I checked to make sure all the tabs were springing back after an audio jack was removed all seem fine (although at this point I lack a comparision).
Then for a test I rang my own phone from my land line and it seems to ring fine but there is nothing from the mic or either of the earpieces during a call.
I am fast running out of ideas and the last test really perplexed me.
I am almost certain that it is a case of one of the contacts inside the audio port not springing back and therefore cutting out the external audio, giving the device the impression that there is still a headset connected.
I don't want to poke around inside too much as I have so far been able to keep security tabs intact, just in case I need to send it off.
Anybody have any ideas on how to get around this? Is it possible that it is software and not hardware?
Please help as phone is a bit useless sans headset, which I don't really want to be permanetly tied to.
Thanks
Thom

keep plugging and unplugging the headset until it works or you get tired, if it works great, otherwise sent it in for repair.

Does nobody out there have a registry hack workaround for this problem?
When I receive calls its rings and any other sounds come through whilst the phone rings.
There must be a workaround here somewhere???

Had exactly the same problem. No sound but rings ok,
After the first time I plugged in the headphones, no sound. Its probably cause the headphone socket is so big in comparisson, that it gets dirty. Just spray some anti static cleaner on the headphone plug and keep plugging it in.
Worked perfectly for me!!

There is no registry hack because this is a hardware issue, not a software one.
The ringer will ring whether the earphones are plugged in or not, which is how you would expect a phone to function. The problem lies with the connectors in the headphone jack socket not recognising the headphones are unplugged. Resetting and even dare I say a hard reset will not sort it as the issue is not software related.
This has also been covered several times on the forum. The only way (short of taking the thing apart) is to keep plugging / unplugging the headphones until the sound reappears.
Cheers
Ant

This just started happening on my JasJar today (system audio returned after poking the headset in/out a few times), after 11 months of use. Does this get worse over time? Should I bite the bullet and try to get Imate to repair it?
Please advise!

audio jack problems

hi, i got an imate jamin and i need to replace the audio jack were the handsfree pug in, do anyone know where i can find to buy this part please or if anyone had the same problem how did you solve it.
thanks guys!!

Dodgy Audio jack
My audio jack plug works fine BUT when I unplug the headset, the phone stays in headset mode i.e. no sound from the speakers. If I plug/unplug the headset a load of times it eventually goes back to normal.
Any ideas. My solution is never to use the audio jack!

Audio Jack
I've had two M600's which have done exactly the same thing, both replaced by Orange, I've now upgraded to an M700 and unlocked the old M600 with a PAYG sim and guess what that one has now lost speaker sound so that three with the same fault and this M600 has never had a headset plugged in.
Has anyone else had similar problems?

i had the same problem othillo before it broke so be carefull cause your is about to brake too, i mailed imate and they said the only way to fix it is to send it to them in dubai.. not relally keen to send it there .. but till today i havent find ther part any where it seems that imate dont send out parts ... as soon as i find an alternative i will post it here..

Is this problem caused by the connector itself or is it something else? If it is the connector I can buy a new one at the local hardware store and modify it a little bit to make it fit in my S200, probably going to replace it with an 3,5mm jack if that is possible...

it is caused by the connector in fact htc the original makers of the prophet on there new models they changed it to a usb connector for the handsfree i changed my connector many times with regulas 2.5mm connector but the sound doesnt work properly. what it does it comes out with out bass then when you push the talk button on the handsfree sound comes out good. another thing i noticed is if when you insert the jack plug in the connector and you pull it out a little bit the sound comes better and the talk button works, i know for fact cause i tried it that its not from the handsfee cause i tried it on another device and work properly. the actuall connector for them is different from what you find to buy even if you plug in normal 2.5mm headphone sound doesnt come out right . if you manage to make it work and modify the connector please post it here so who got the same prob like me can have an idea how to fix it... thanks

Audio Jack
Here is what the problem is:
Audio jacks have what is called a normally closed contact. Each contact point actually has 2 parts. In the closed (no headset) the 2 part of the contact point make contact (shorts). This enables the signal to pass through the jack to the phone speaker. When you insert a headset, the 2 points open (break contact) and signal only goes to the headset.
I'm talking from experience as a sound engineer for over 30 years and this is usually the problem 99% of the time when it comes to these type of jacks. One of the contacts (usually the ground when no sound or mic at all) breaks or can no longer "spring" back. I haven't opened mine yet but fully expect this to be the problem.

audio jack
hi jsapper, i got what you saying and your absolutly right .. the thing i replaced mine 2 times now been done by a technician who fixes phones/pdas the thing with the connectors i replaced the device doesnt work properly sound comes out with out the bass and the talk button doesnt work .. i guess that the original part got some extra connectors or most probably the pins are switched around..
do you know if there is any special connectors for them...

I have a similar pb with my S200:
After running tomtom during 2000km installed on my motorbike w/ a 2.5mm headset, sound seems to no work anymore (neither back or ear speaker), I suppose that vibrations against jack connector are responsible.
With a bluetooth or wired headset sound works.
I have soft/hard reset, upgrade to last WM5 rom, upgrade to WM6 rom, I have tried to get in/out a 2.5mm jack connector without any result.
The ring facility is working (w/ or w/o 2.5mm jack connected), so I can say that the back speaker is working.
I am looking for a solution too...
nb: I have my back speaker + screen replaced one time after 2months.
Dean.

Have you try resolder the Connector?

it was to damaged to be resolded

Hi everybody,
I aswell have this kind of problem from time to time.My solution is quite simple.You have to use the original 2,5" jack with the 3 black "dividings".(sorry for my english) This solution reduced the problem dramatically.If the problem starts now, just plug it in and out a few times and it should work again.
Cheers

Phone Jack is a mechanical mess ...
Same prob, used the headset, rear speaker dead. I opened the prophet, unsoldered the jack and found it misconstructed.
The body of the jack is plastic and not capable to withstand the forces of a plugged in headset.
There are two integrated switches - which - when headset is unplugged are closed and deliver the signal to the speaker. one of the switches does not close anymore when the headset is unplugged. My first solution was to unsolder the jack and bridge the contacts 2 and 4 as welll as 3 and 5.
The rear speaker functions now and I can use the phone.
Next step will be to find a jack solution on the market to finally solve the problem. I will keep you informed!

thanks buzzi will be looking in here... for your post!

i had the same problem with my audio jack and i searched many forums for a solution. the only thing i can say: if you really want to use it and you want go back in normal mode after unplugging, take a little needle. if you look at the audio jack (USB is left to it) you have to stick the needle in the right side of the jack somewhere an search for a little contact (the first time hard to find, the second time easy) and try to push it a bit to the left. so the prophet goes back in normal mode. it sucks but i didnt find another solution...except for buying a bluetooth headset and use software to hear music over that (for mono headsets u can use a programm calles BTAudioToggel, but make sure u use the Toggle software, because there is another one called BTAudio, it sucks because it costs money and doesn't work for me so well)
Greetz

Friends,
My prophet has exactly the same symptoms. However, I opened up the phone and carefully examined the jack. It is crap, sure, but at least on my phone it is not at fault. I tested with a continuity meter and the contact mechanism was working perfectly. Those who tried this measure without success read the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281331
In my case it is definitely a problem with the speaker, and it seems to be eqaully common. It seems that there is more than one problem dogging the speaker of ths model.

mine's got the small contact switch problem.
it started last night! SO Annoying. Plugging a friend's original 2.5mm adapter in and out solved it temporarily. Then it went again! I have only got a 3rd party 2.5mm plug, and it took me ages to trip the small switch back with that. I have now got a BT headset on order.
Can't wait for the newer design HTC headphone adapter as I have had this problem with 5 different devices! (Tanager, Typhoon, Hurricane, Tornado and now Prophet.)

would agree with hybrid the needle trick fixed it ran media player so i could tell when it was working again. it was mentioned before that using the 2.5mm adaptor with ibky 2 rings as opposed to 3 causes this problem. I can identify with this as i have been using my dopod h/free with no problems for months i use the adaptor to plug in my headphones one time and get a eap of issues!
i will adapt a h/free to plug in some nicer headphones!
Can i use the USB connection as a handsfree port on my prophet?
Cheers

Hi, Prophet's USB is not a USB hub and thus not usable for connecting external devices - only way is bluetooth ...

thanks buzzi

Headset Jack broken?

Well.. I've got a problem:
Today I wanted to use my Samsung headset that came with the S2, plugged it in, and the music sounded wierd. Like there was an echo, or if all my music was a karaoke version..
Turns out:
Non-Headset headphones work perfectly, but the "3-ringed-jack" headset does not work! I do not have another headset to test this, but the headset works @my pc (got a connector for that..)
So the 3.5mm jack at my S2 seems to be broken?
I will try a software reset (right now I am @stock rom+root) and then send it to Amazon. Anyone heard of that problem or got some ideas?
Breece
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Reset didnt help, but the headset does *not* work on my Nexus one (same problem) but my BH905i do not work on both phones with the 3.5mm jack (the one that has "3 rings")

Did you push the pin in far enough?
For 3 weeks I didn't know I had to push it hard into the jack, until it clicks. After that, it was perfect. I'm using Ultimate ears 220vi, 3 ring.

That has to be the pin. you must give it a good press to seat it properly.

The SGS2 headset jack is a bit 'finicky'. Some aux cables / headsets work, some sound funny or do not work and yes, one has to ensure it is really pushed in firmly.

I pushed as if my life depended on it Just last week the headset worked...

kaotickelly said:
Did you push the pin in far enough?
For 3 weeks I didn't know I had to push it hard into the jack, until it clicks. After that, it was perfect. I'm using Ultimate ears 220vi, 3 ring.
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The same thing happened to me, but I noticed ealier.

I re-installed the firmware but nothing seems to help. I guess its hardware..
Will send it back to Amazon today...
Maybe the headset is broken after all, who knows

Just an update:
Has been @ the amazon repair center for two days and apparently something did indeed brake in the hardware... atleast it says on the homepage "being repaired"
Now I hope the S2 will be back soon.. want to flash 2.3.4

Shoot I was just about to ORDER a replacement Audio Jack, until I read the second poster reply. For me, my headset worked only by wiggling the cable around into the audio jack in order to finally hear sound (had do this every single time and was very annoying), the audio did sound distorted and the mic would never work :-(
I personally thought that I inserted the cable in the audio jack as hard I could (after many attempts having this phone for 2 months)
but after reading kaotickelly's reply, I noticed i never EVER heard a click before inserting the cable in the jack throughout many attempts.
So I put my "trying to over protect my phone" ignorance aside, and FORCED the dam thing in, and it clicked!!! not only did I forced it, but I didn't scratch or break phone as i feared, Headset sounded correctly without any distortion and microphone worked!
Unlike Breece, my audio jack now works and I got to UPDATE to 2.3.4! (Don't take it personal)
GOOD-LOOKING OUT KAOTICKELLY!