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I woke up this morning, took the xda2 off charge, and i have no sound!! no system sound, no ring and cannot hear people talking on the phone....any advice?
thanx.

Speaker not working - headphone / headset works okay - fixed
Hi Rai,
I had similar problem today, but I found that the headset was still working okay.
On further investigation, I discovered that the phone ring worked through the speaker, but I couldn't hear anyone or activate the speakerphone function.
This reminded me of a post I had read here earlier because it was as though the phone was failing to recognise that the headset was no longer plugged in; ie. if the speaker simply wasn't working, the speakerphone function should activate as normal, but I wouldn't be able to hear anything.
Some searches on this forum revealed a fix which worked for me today - I vigorously plugged, unplugged the headset a dozen or so times, and whala - speaker's back!
Apparently the headphone socket is known to do this from time to time: I suspect it's just a build-up of dust / dirt which was affecting the contacts. Whatever the case, I hope you have some success with your problem too.
Codenix.

aha ! ..thanx for the info, on mine it came on by itself. At first it it kept stuttering and then worked...but I will do what you sugested.

I have this problem too. :-(
Last thing I did was to play a very loud movie file before going to bed, now this morning I find the speaker does not seem to work at all :-(
I've tried the unplug/replug many times and no joy..
Also it does seem to detect when the headset is in place as it will not alow the 'Speaker phone ' icon to activate when it is plugged in..
Have I blown my speaker?
Hope not.
Last resort this evening is a hard reboot.

FIXED!
Thanks for the posts guys!
I just found out how to fix the problem i was having with my XDA.
Looks like the headphone jack was faulty and was convincing my system that the headset was plugged in. Result? the spaeker didn't appear to work and neither did the mic (bootloader diagnostics showed speaker and mic to be working fine.). Unlike others with a similar problem, I did not have the "speakerphone on" icon displayed when in any mode (phone or pda).
Solution: wiggled the headset around in the jack as I pulled it out and suddenly the speaker came alive. Not happy that the jack is faulty, but maybe I can fix that since it's just a loose connection or something.
Anyone out there got any advice on how to open one of these babys up and weild a soldering iron??
Jules

Help! No sound without headset

Please help me!!!!
this morning my XDA2 has decided that the speaker and microphone sholld be switched off permenently! :x
I believe that it thinks the headset is plugged in - but it isnt!!! (i dont use bluetooth)
I hev tried a soft reset and a hard reset (and also plugging and unplugging the headset)
Please help me - I only like to use the headset when listening to my tunes.
PS i spoke to the O2 data support helpdesk at 60p / min and it took them about 5 minutes to suggest that a soft / hard reset might cure it, otherwise they are clueless.
Is there any way to manually chage the profile from headset to normal handheld????
thanks!
PS my device i nearly 1 yr old - is this the kind of thing that I can expect to occurr more frequently as my XDA2 goes into old age?

i had this problem with my XDA 1. I had no idea what was going on but remembered it working last time i had the headphones in. A soft reset didn't fix it for me either. what DID fix it was ramming the headphone jack in and out really fast. After a few attempts it came back to normal I guess have to 'undo' the problem the headphone caused when it was in there.

:lol: :lol: hehehehe :lol: :lol:
It works!!!!
8)
cheers dude!

Speaker and microphone silent because of headphone
Hello,
Glad you got everything working again..
Just a quick note - I was in a motorcylce accident recently and had my PPC in my pocket, - it was damaged at the the area of the headphone jack, which came loose, and caused exactly the problem you described.
To fix it I had to open the PPC up (instructions are available elsewhere in this forum) and then resolder the headphone socket to the PPC - Now it works fine again.
The upshot of this is that I think the microphone and speaker turining off when the headphone is plugged in is hard wired in - and also the headphone jack is quite delicate - it is only held on to the PC board by the solder connection of about 6 legs, and has 2 very small plastic locating pins, so go carefully with the jamming the headphones in and out.
Also when mine came loose - the back left of the 6 legs broke off - and without that connected back it still never produced sound through the speaker or mic., so it would be possible to permanently wire that in to make sound go both ways.

Mine is mute too did you do anything or did it just fix itself?

It eventually fixed after a couple of hard resets - first one didnt work, but after using the headset for a bit, i got the stuff from O2 to send it back for a repair. when u reset it again the problem was fixed. I reckon threatening it with surgery scared it into submission!

I had the same Prob at every Time who i hit my XDAII, or if it fall down.
After that i must push & hit it again,- sometimes 15-20 Times(!) and after that it works normal. It´s an "cold" point on the board,- the O2 Hotline knows this...

Re: Speaker and microphone silent because of headphone
siezear said:
Hello,
Glad you got everything working again..
Just a quick note - I was in a motorcylce accident recently and had my PPC in my pocket, - it was damaged at the the area of the headphone jack, which came loose, and caused exactly the problem you described.
To fix it I had to open the PPC up (instructions are available elsewhere in this forum) and then resolder the headphone socket to the PPC - Now it works fine again.
The upshot of this is that I think the microphone and speaker turining off when the headphone is plugged in is hard wired in - and also the headphone jack is quite delicate - it is only held on to the PC board by the solder connection of about 6 legs, and has 2 very small plastic locating pins, so go carefully with the jamming the headphones in and out.
Also when mine came loose - the back left of the 6 legs broke off - and without that connected back it still never produced sound through the speaker or mic., so it would be possible to permanently wire that in to make sound go both ways.
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Same problem from yesterday! ..it is the jack ..if I move it down with the stylus ..the audio returns to the speaker..uff..
I don' wanna open it and solder.. too lazy..lol

Dead speaker
I have the exact same fault as described
only after losing about 3 calls did i realise it was the xda2 not some nutter that wouldn't speak!
fixed it with putting the headphone jack in then out etc..... 15 times!
it would seem like this is a design fault! as it is coming up to year for the xda2 should we organise o2 to recall the xda2's and repair this fault!

So I have this problem - only thing is Im in the USA at the mo and didnt bring my headset - is there any other fix as Im kinda stuck ?
Nigel

Husband had same problem.
Changing ring tone fixed it. Don't know why. Don't know how, but it fixed it!

Re: Husband had same problem.
guest said:
Changing ring tone fixed it. Don't know why. Don't know how, but it fixed it!
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I have the same problem, after calling with a headset, now my sound has gone ( Out of complete my XDA II ). Changing the ringtone didn't work for me...I am going to try to test the plug/headset way!

After 12 times my sound came back...so it worked for me!!! :lol:

It's the headphone Jack!
The problem is with the headphone jack!
I have had the same problem for months, sometimes it would stay without sound, always when I dropped it. Usually it returned after 1 or two days, but the last time I dropped it it seemed to be final... I've had no sound for more than a week - I'm using it as a PDA...
Reading the posts above, I decided to insert the pen in the headphone socket (as I don't have the headphones here with me), move it around carefully, and it wroked! Right now, it feels like magic, but that's it - I will probably have to get it fixed permanently, but for now it will do!

well i always have that problem in my phones... because i always hook them in my car stereo by the headset output.. and constant using of the output somehow makes the insides of it dirty.. believe me its dust.. a tooth pick would be very effective as it takes the dirt away.. blowing in sometimes work...

mine is also soundless
i was able to get some dust out of it....
but it won't work....
i don't have the nerves to ramm the headphones in....but isn't there another safer way to fix it....
plz let me know, (hard resettet 5 times.... won't work..)
btw, i tried to put some new updates on it....
but i can't find any, (i searched, but couldn't find anything...)
device information:
Rom Version: 4.01.12 ENG
Rom date: 12/22/03
Radio Version: 4.21.00
Protocol version: 32S54
It's a little bit out of date...that's why i need new ones (i think)
h0t_sh0t

bringing it to the accredited local shop would be the safest way.. maybe there's more dust in there.. you can also rewire it again.. like opening the PPC and soldering back some pins.. (if some pins broke off ..)

Same thing happened to my jam too.
Problem is; there's a little switch in your headphone socket, when you plug your headset it turns off the external sound, and when u unplug it should normally turn on the external sound. But if the switch is locked, it does not recognize that u unplug your headphone.
My solution is, plug-unplug your headset's plug (or something thinner is better) several times in different angles carefully to your socket try to touch the switch while your're playing something. Till u hear the external sound.
Mine is ok now.
(Sorry about my bad English)

I had the same problem. I sprayed a little WD-40 on the tip of my headphones... pushed it in and out for a couple of times and viola!

first question...
what's wd-40??
second question...
when i put my earphones in, i can hear everything...but I can't speak...
but when I unplug my earphones, and I scream in my xda... I can hear a little bit what i'm saying when i plug my earphones back in.
but it's very crappy sound, and when I slam (not to hard of course) my xda with the mic onto my desk (while recording) and i listen to it again, i can hear the drums....(the slamming) but I can't talk in it while using my headset...
has anybody had this before...?
third thing...
My uncle bought the XDA in Singapore about 2 years ago (when it just came out) so when i'd like to bring it back.... i'd have to fligh all the way to Singapore. (does anybody know a good shop/store who sells/repairs XDA phones...??? or is there anybody who can do this....?
thnx for all the help
h0t_Sh0t

JAMin speaker problems

Hi,
Was driving home yesterday when I noticed my Tom Tom voice instructions started to break up. I thought it was just a little glitch and thought nothing move about it.
However today I was trying to play a sound and got nothing. I tried it a couple of times and it played and then started to break up too.
Since then I am getting no sound. I can hear sound fine using the headphones and when I get a call I can hear the caller fine, but if I go onto Speaker Phone I hear nothing.
I tried a soft reset then a hard reset but neither worked.
I have just finished upgrading to the latest ROM but it is still not working.
Has anyone else had this? Is there a secret fix I have missed?
Has anyone sent their JAMin for warrantly work in the UK. If so how long is the turnaround?
Regards

Hi. Used to have this problem when I had the Jam and the JAMin seems to use the same design when it comes to speakers (part of the reason why I didn't get a JAMin when upgrading.)
If it's the same problem as on the Jam hopefully the fllowing will help.
When you plug in headphones or speakers to the socket there is a loose connection. This then sometimes makes the phone think headphones are still plugged in even when they are not! The way I solved it was by playing some music on media player then half plugging the headphones in and wiggling the connector around until I heard sound through the speakers. I also found I could use the tip of the stylus to correct the loose connection. Some people said it worked just by plugging and unplugging their headphones several times.
This thread is where the problem was discussed when on the JAM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42949
Another thread that might help is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18384

dead speaker
If after a hard reset your speaker still has no sound, then it's probably dead. Sad to say, HTC is at fault for using such low quality speakers. I am a victim myself. Go to PPCSG. The prob is so common in Singapore that the service center has run out of speaker parts!

Speaker hardware replaced
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50392

read somewhere that this speaker problem was inherited from the magician?
can anyone verify that this speaker failing problem was inherent even in the magician?
if this is the case, then we will have doubts about PPCs coming out from HTC..

I heard about the Magician PDA speaker defects as well although I did not have such a problem with my old Magician but I had to get the Phone speaker replaced. It looks like they used the same Magician hardware in the new Prophet.

Help! Big problems with all audio!

Hi
First post here so please excuse any ignorance.
O2 XDA Exec - standard Rom from O2 website.
Problem started a few hours ago after using the audio out for listening to music via mediaplayer.
My unit was working fine while playing, but later after it had been disconnceted from the stereo I noted that there were no tap sounds.
I first checked the audio settings, all normal the way I always have them.
Next I tried the reset button on the back of the unit, no help there.
I tried plugging in the headphones in and there is perfectly normal audio over the headphone but once removed nothing at all.
Getting more extreme I tried a rom update/fresh start, no luck there either.
Getting even more hardcore I downloaded the assembly/disassembly pdf from this forum to check if there was a physical fault with the 3.5mm audio port. I checked to make sure all the tabs were springing back after an audio jack was removed all seem fine (although at this point I lack a comparision).
Then for a test I rang my own phone from my land line and it seems to ring fine but there is nothing from the mic or either of the earpieces during a call.
I am fast running out of ideas and the last test really perplexed me.
I am almost certain that it is a case of one of the contacts inside the audio port not springing back and therefore cutting out the external audio, giving the device the impression that there is still a headset connected.
I don't want to poke around inside too much as I have so far been able to keep security tabs intact, just in case I need to send it off.
Anybody have any ideas on how to get around this? Is it possible that it is software and not hardware?
Please help as phone is a bit useless sans headset, which I don't really want to be permanetly tied to.
Thanks
Thom

keep plugging and unplugging the headset until it works or you get tired, if it works great, otherwise sent it in for repair.

Does nobody out there have a registry hack workaround for this problem?
When I receive calls its rings and any other sounds come through whilst the phone rings.
There must be a workaround here somewhere???

Had exactly the same problem. No sound but rings ok,
After the first time I plugged in the headphones, no sound. Its probably cause the headphone socket is so big in comparisson, that it gets dirty. Just spray some anti static cleaner on the headphone plug and keep plugging it in.
Worked perfectly for me!!

There is no registry hack because this is a hardware issue, not a software one.
The ringer will ring whether the earphones are plugged in or not, which is how you would expect a phone to function. The problem lies with the connectors in the headphone jack socket not recognising the headphones are unplugged. Resetting and even dare I say a hard reset will not sort it as the issue is not software related.
This has also been covered several times on the forum. The only way (short of taking the thing apart) is to keep plugging / unplugging the headphones until the sound reappears.
Cheers
Ant

This just started happening on my JasJar today (system audio returned after poking the headset in/out a few times), after 11 months of use. Does this get worse over time? Should I bite the bullet and try to get Imate to repair it?
Please advise!

Himalaya loudspeaker-sound lost, headphone-sound ok

I lost the loudspeaker-sound in my Himalya. It works using headphones. I think it may have to do with another set of headphone I connected to it, which was not original. Perhaps it put the device on permanent headphone mode. But then again it might not have anything to do with that.
Is there a Himalaya expert in Berlin - Germany who might be able to help me with it? I dread having to send it to the official reapir center, as I expect it to cost a neck and a hand.

Happened to me when I received a call whilst listening to music. I pulled the headphones out before answering the call, and then answered it. I could here them but they cvouldn't hear me. If you plug the headphones in again and remove them it solves the problem. Well it did for me anyway

I tried that. I doesn't do it. It doesn't matter what kind of sound, if Media Player file is played of phone ringing, only the headphones work. I think I need a dotor.

I have read a lot about the problem in others threads. It seems the headphone-jack can get stuck, not making a contact, which normally is being made and which turns the XDA back to speaker mode, when the headphone-jack is pulled out. Hereto:
1- What does that mean exactely? Which part is that, in what part in the on-board jack? If it had been bent out of place, is it possible to bend the part pack (at best without having to disassemble)? (I tried the ramming in and out, no go).
2- I looked at the non-original jack I had used and it is about 2 mm longer than the original. Might perhaps that explain it? Is there a part in the back that could have been bent out of place?
3- If indeed this was the problem (if the jack had been bent out of place, one way or another), would the microphone work? I can record using the dictaphone and the micophone also works during a call.

When we had himalaya's it happened to both of our devices (my wife and I had one each).
It appears the spring in the speaker can come loose. I used to bang mine (pardon the pun) on my palm and sometimes it would start to work. Then we broke the speaker protection shield, and this made it easier sometimes and hard to fix in others.
When I sold it, my friend took it apart as it was out of warranty, and as he is electrically minded, he find the dodgy bit, and soldered it to the device, and now works perfectly.

Yes! Thanks Jasjar. It worked after a bit of beating.
I found a detailed instruction of how to fix it permanently in another thread. Sounds complicated and dangerous but eventually I must do it.

ran2far said:
I have read a lot about the problem in others threads. It seems the headphone-jack can get stuck, not making a contact, which normally is being made and which turns the XDA back to speaker mode, when the headphone-jack is pulled out.
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Sorry for kicking the topic, but this was the solution for me. I just poked in the headphone-jack with a little stick and tataaaa... my sound is back!

Sound lost problem
Hi all,
same happen to me, the sound stoped working (on my side it had nothing to do with the phone jack).
After the modifaication which is described in this forum i had still the same problem so i solder the loud speaker directly - still same problem...
After some time i flashed the device again, now it works, so on my side it was a software problem...
The device was 3 month out of power, but i think remove the battery and if the sound appears on startup (on first boot) but later not, then flash the os and it will work ...
kr
chw

XDA 2 sound problem...
Hi!
Plese help me!
I have strange problem with my XDA 2.
I bough it 2 days ago. It was in O2 network.
Now when I unlocked it for my network (polish ERA-GSM) I saw that when I'm calling I cant hear anything. Person from the other sight can't hear me too..
XDA have sound becose I used media-player ando other sound stuff, thats why I think that speaker is ok. Microphone is ok too becose I can record animations with sound.
So what should I do now? ;/
Plese help...

Just for reference:
A friend of mine had this 2020, and both Speakerphone and mic were not working.
When somebody called, the ringtone DID sound.
Anyway, bluetooth handsfree worked fine.
All we did was play with the jack, using the stylus! Not even headphones...
And now it works fine!
He says he'll never put phones on it again... lol
cu around!

Looking for more Info
Hi, please help me find which points in the MDAII Motherboard can I solder to disable the headphones and get the audio and mic back to the MDA.
After a while my headphone-jack is broken from the motherboard and now I only have the pin outs in it.
The device is working perfect, and I can use bluetooth headphones. I just don't have audio in the speaker and no mic without bluetooth.
I hope someone can tell me which of the red points en the picture can I solder to disable the headphones.
I just want to do this temporally until I get a replacement spare part for it.
Thanks
EDIT: 12-12-2007
I got it. Just joining 1 and 3 and you will get audio back to the PDA disabling the headphones jack.
Thanks anyways for reading this..

Did you find out what all the mboard pins are for the jack?
I have a dodgy jack and would like to take flying leads of the mboard jack to an external (easily changed) inline jack. Does any know what the 1 to 6 pins correlate to. I would like to still switch the audio via the external jack. Not bothered about the mic.
TIA.