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Help! No sound without headset

Please help me!!!!
this morning my XDA2 has decided that the speaker and microphone sholld be switched off permenently! :x
I believe that it thinks the headset is plugged in - but it isnt!!! (i dont use bluetooth)
I hev tried a soft reset and a hard reset (and also plugging and unplugging the headset)
Please help me - I only like to use the headset when listening to my tunes.
PS i spoke to the O2 data support helpdesk at 60p / min and it took them about 5 minutes to suggest that a soft / hard reset might cure it, otherwise they are clueless.
Is there any way to manually chage the profile from headset to normal handheld????
thanks!
PS my device i nearly 1 yr old - is this the kind of thing that I can expect to occurr more frequently as my XDA2 goes into old age?

i had this problem with my XDA 1. I had no idea what was going on but remembered it working last time i had the headphones in. A soft reset didn't fix it for me either. what DID fix it was ramming the headphone jack in and out really fast. After a few attempts it came back to normal I guess have to 'undo' the problem the headphone caused when it was in there.

:lol: :lol: hehehehe :lol: :lol:
It works!!!!
8)
cheers dude!

Speaker and microphone silent because of headphone
Hello,
Glad you got everything working again..
Just a quick note - I was in a motorcylce accident recently and had my PPC in my pocket, - it was damaged at the the area of the headphone jack, which came loose, and caused exactly the problem you described.
To fix it I had to open the PPC up (instructions are available elsewhere in this forum) and then resolder the headphone socket to the PPC - Now it works fine again.
The upshot of this is that I think the microphone and speaker turining off when the headphone is plugged in is hard wired in - and also the headphone jack is quite delicate - it is only held on to the PC board by the solder connection of about 6 legs, and has 2 very small plastic locating pins, so go carefully with the jamming the headphones in and out.
Also when mine came loose - the back left of the 6 legs broke off - and without that connected back it still never produced sound through the speaker or mic., so it would be possible to permanently wire that in to make sound go both ways.

Mine is mute too did you do anything or did it just fix itself?

It eventually fixed after a couple of hard resets - first one didnt work, but after using the headset for a bit, i got the stuff from O2 to send it back for a repair. when u reset it again the problem was fixed. I reckon threatening it with surgery scared it into submission!

I had the same Prob at every Time who i hit my XDAII, or if it fall down.
After that i must push & hit it again,- sometimes 15-20 Times(!) and after that it works normal. It´s an "cold" point on the board,- the O2 Hotline knows this...

Re: Speaker and microphone silent because of headphone
siezear said:
Hello,
Glad you got everything working again..
Just a quick note - I was in a motorcylce accident recently and had my PPC in my pocket, - it was damaged at the the area of the headphone jack, which came loose, and caused exactly the problem you described.
To fix it I had to open the PPC up (instructions are available elsewhere in this forum) and then resolder the headphone socket to the PPC - Now it works fine again.
The upshot of this is that I think the microphone and speaker turining off when the headphone is plugged in is hard wired in - and also the headphone jack is quite delicate - it is only held on to the PC board by the solder connection of about 6 legs, and has 2 very small plastic locating pins, so go carefully with the jamming the headphones in and out.
Also when mine came loose - the back left of the 6 legs broke off - and without that connected back it still never produced sound through the speaker or mic., so it would be possible to permanently wire that in to make sound go both ways.
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Same problem from yesterday! ..it is the jack ..if I move it down with the stylus ..the audio returns to the speaker..uff..
I don' wanna open it and solder.. too lazy..lol

Dead speaker
I have the exact same fault as described
only after losing about 3 calls did i realise it was the xda2 not some nutter that wouldn't speak!
fixed it with putting the headphone jack in then out etc..... 15 times!
it would seem like this is a design fault! as it is coming up to year for the xda2 should we organise o2 to recall the xda2's and repair this fault!

So I have this problem - only thing is Im in the USA at the mo and didnt bring my headset - is there any other fix as Im kinda stuck ?
Nigel

Husband had same problem.
Changing ring tone fixed it. Don't know why. Don't know how, but it fixed it!

Re: Husband had same problem.
guest said:
Changing ring tone fixed it. Don't know why. Don't know how, but it fixed it!
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I have the same problem, after calling with a headset, now my sound has gone ( Out of complete my XDA II ). Changing the ringtone didn't work for me...I am going to try to test the plug/headset way!

After 12 times my sound came back...so it worked for me!!! :lol:

It's the headphone Jack!
The problem is with the headphone jack!
I have had the same problem for months, sometimes it would stay without sound, always when I dropped it. Usually it returned after 1 or two days, but the last time I dropped it it seemed to be final... I've had no sound for more than a week - I'm using it as a PDA...
Reading the posts above, I decided to insert the pen in the headphone socket (as I don't have the headphones here with me), move it around carefully, and it wroked! Right now, it feels like magic, but that's it - I will probably have to get it fixed permanently, but for now it will do!

well i always have that problem in my phones... because i always hook them in my car stereo by the headset output.. and constant using of the output somehow makes the insides of it dirty.. believe me its dust.. a tooth pick would be very effective as it takes the dirt away.. blowing in sometimes work...

mine is also soundless
i was able to get some dust out of it....
but it won't work....
i don't have the nerves to ramm the headphones in....but isn't there another safer way to fix it....
plz let me know, (hard resettet 5 times.... won't work..)
btw, i tried to put some new updates on it....
but i can't find any, (i searched, but couldn't find anything...)
device information:
Rom Version: 4.01.12 ENG
Rom date: 12/22/03
Radio Version: 4.21.00
Protocol version: 32S54
It's a little bit out of date...that's why i need new ones (i think)
h0t_sh0t

bringing it to the accredited local shop would be the safest way.. maybe there's more dust in there.. you can also rewire it again.. like opening the PPC and soldering back some pins.. (if some pins broke off ..)

Same thing happened to my jam too.
Problem is; there's a little switch in your headphone socket, when you plug your headset it turns off the external sound, and when u unplug it should normally turn on the external sound. But if the switch is locked, it does not recognize that u unplug your headphone.
My solution is, plug-unplug your headset's plug (or something thinner is better) several times in different angles carefully to your socket try to touch the switch while your're playing something. Till u hear the external sound.
Mine is ok now.
(Sorry about my bad English)

I had the same problem. I sprayed a little WD-40 on the tip of my headphones... pushed it in and out for a couple of times and viola!

first question...
what's wd-40??
second question...
when i put my earphones in, i can hear everything...but I can't speak...
but when I unplug my earphones, and I scream in my xda... I can hear a little bit what i'm saying when i plug my earphones back in.
but it's very crappy sound, and when I slam (not to hard of course) my xda with the mic onto my desk (while recording) and i listen to it again, i can hear the drums....(the slamming) but I can't talk in it while using my headset...
has anybody had this before...?
third thing...
My uncle bought the XDA in Singapore about 2 years ago (when it just came out) so when i'd like to bring it back.... i'd have to fligh all the way to Singapore. (does anybody know a good shop/store who sells/repairs XDA phones...??? or is there anybody who can do this....?
thnx for all the help
h0t_Sh0t

BIG SOUND PROBLEM

My XDA Mini seems to think that the headphones are still plugged in when they are not. Therefore I can't hear any sound come out of it unless I plug the headphones back in. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a way to fix it? I have done both soft resets and hard resets. I've had the phone for 4 months with no problem until now.

I'm sorry, I can't help you, but a have a very simular problem.
I used the antenna cable connector to get better reception, but when I took out the connector it seems that the MDAc didn't switch back to internal antenna. I've got nearly no reception (~10% as usual).
Maybe someone can help us both.

This may help;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=90321&highlight=#90321

I have the same problem, and I am currently just living with it (I just a headset most of the time), but I will send it in for service sooner or later.
WD40 didn't help in my case...

ej, I had the same problem, ie no sound coming out of the rear speaker. At first I thought it was a problem with the headphone jack plug. Then I realised it was the external speaker that was defective. When you have the headphones plugged in, you should still hear the ringtone from the external speaker when someone calls you. If you do hear a ringtone, then it's the headphone switch. If you don't, it must be the external speaker.
I sent mine back to Germany (mine is an MDA Compact). T-Mobile could not repair it and replaced it with a new one!

I also had the same problem with my XDA II, and no amount of hard resets would fix it.
Strangely, it fixed itself after a few days. It seems like there's a design flaw in the sound hardware across the whole range of PPC devices produced by HTC.
I wish they'd get it sorted out!
-no1

Help! Big problems with all audio!

Hi
First post here so please excuse any ignorance.
O2 XDA Exec - standard Rom from O2 website.
Problem started a few hours ago after using the audio out for listening to music via mediaplayer.
My unit was working fine while playing, but later after it had been disconnceted from the stereo I noted that there were no tap sounds.
I first checked the audio settings, all normal the way I always have them.
Next I tried the reset button on the back of the unit, no help there.
I tried plugging in the headphones in and there is perfectly normal audio over the headphone but once removed nothing at all.
Getting more extreme I tried a rom update/fresh start, no luck there either.
Getting even more hardcore I downloaded the assembly/disassembly pdf from this forum to check if there was a physical fault with the 3.5mm audio port. I checked to make sure all the tabs were springing back after an audio jack was removed all seem fine (although at this point I lack a comparision).
Then for a test I rang my own phone from my land line and it seems to ring fine but there is nothing from the mic or either of the earpieces during a call.
I am fast running out of ideas and the last test really perplexed me.
I am almost certain that it is a case of one of the contacts inside the audio port not springing back and therefore cutting out the external audio, giving the device the impression that there is still a headset connected.
I don't want to poke around inside too much as I have so far been able to keep security tabs intact, just in case I need to send it off.
Anybody have any ideas on how to get around this? Is it possible that it is software and not hardware?
Please help as phone is a bit useless sans headset, which I don't really want to be permanetly tied to.
Thanks
Thom

keep plugging and unplugging the headset until it works or you get tired, if it works great, otherwise sent it in for repair.

Does nobody out there have a registry hack workaround for this problem?
When I receive calls its rings and any other sounds come through whilst the phone rings.
There must be a workaround here somewhere???

Had exactly the same problem. No sound but rings ok,
After the first time I plugged in the headphones, no sound. Its probably cause the headphone socket is so big in comparisson, that it gets dirty. Just spray some anti static cleaner on the headphone plug and keep plugging it in.
Worked perfectly for me!!

There is no registry hack because this is a hardware issue, not a software one.
The ringer will ring whether the earphones are plugged in or not, which is how you would expect a phone to function. The problem lies with the connectors in the headphone jack socket not recognising the headphones are unplugged. Resetting and even dare I say a hard reset will not sort it as the issue is not software related.
This has also been covered several times on the forum. The only way (short of taking the thing apart) is to keep plugging / unplugging the headphones until the sound reappears.
Cheers
Ant

This just started happening on my JasJar today (system audio returned after poking the headset in/out a few times), after 11 months of use. Does this get worse over time? Should I bite the bullet and try to get Imate to repair it?
Please advise!

No sound without headphones after fall!!

Hi all
It would be great if you shed some light on the problem
Xda exec had a fall!..since then no sounds at all, phone won't ring or won't play music...but has sound if i plugged the headphones in
Any theories/ideas what might have gone wrong...& possible solutions..
any help would be appreciated...thanxs

sound failed on xda exec
i also had the same issue but my handset was replaced as it was within 28 days of getting the handset
i never did manage to find the exact issue
when your handset fell did it have external sound / handsfree plugged in at the time
about the only thing that made any sense with mine was the possibilty of the micro switch / contacts of the externl audio jack being damaged
dont know if any of this info helps you at all but best of luck getting it sorted

Still no explanation for the no sound problem Xda Exec
Does anybody find out allready what's the problem with no sound on the Xda Exec.
I not speak about the problem with the external audio jack.
I can make cals like normal, I only can not play music or listen if somenone is calling me.
Thanks

its hardware problem with universals audiojack .. just open device ..remove board . plug headphones ... and see on connector /.... in most cases no sound issue cames from third pin of jack (thst pin detect plugged headpnones .. if it disconnected device plays in headphones if connected device plays on builtin speakers) if near end of it ...
a may advice you more deeply but i didnot have proper photo to explan in his basis..
just give me HI RES PHOTO OF BOTH SIDES OF YOUR MOTHERBOARD.. i explain what to do

mo3ulla said:
its hardware problem with universals audiojack .. just open device ..remove board . plug headphones ... and see on connector /.... in most cases no sound issue cames from third pin of jack (thst pin detect plugged headpnones .. if it disconnected device plays in headphones if connected device plays on builtin speakers) if near end of it ...
a may advice you more deeply but i didnot have proper photo to explan in his basis..
just give me HI RES PHOTO OF BOTH SIDES OF YOUR MOTHERBOARD.. i explain what to do
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Thanks for your post.
You are shure that this willbe the problem, because I can make calls without the headphone. I was thinking that in the case that the connector gives the problem, I should also not be able to make any calls without using the headphone.
Anyway I was going to open my friend one day, to look what's up.

problem may be repaired in home in 10mins
you need
hands
brain
tools to open
1 needle
do photo .. i say what next

mo3ulla said:
problem may be repaired in home in 10mins
you need
hands
brain
tools to open
1 needle
do photo .. i say what next
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Ok, here we go.
We have hands, tools ( a hammer ) and 1 needle.
I think I forgot something, but...
I think the problem, when the problem is hardware,
is that when you put the headphone jack, the top of the jack he opens the microswitch what you see at first.
Ofcourse when this switch he stays also open when you take out the jack, than you have a problem.
And yes with a needle you can first open the contakt and than you can dress littlebit the position of the contakt.
I have only 1 problem on my tel, this switch is closed as well, when I take out the jack. The problem is not this switch.

here we go

Correct, I am shure that this is almost always the problem.
In fact the switch is closed in normal position, and he goes open when you put the headphones.
When he not close as well automatic than, you have a problem.
But in my case it is really not this switch, so I am still looking for the reason why I not have sound.

hi all
i have same probelem like you
my friend using my device for weeks and when she give it back to me i have no sound from my device & even from headset i call the i-mate center the girl told me maybe your jack is dameged but when i sent it to suport center they told me your flex cable is dameged by wrong rotating your device and we haven't that yet ....
they sent it back to me and after some day my screen shows nothing then i buoght a cable from ebay an change , now i have voice sound screen
&....
like before
i hope these usefull for you

This was exactly my issue, under that pinkbox you marked is the tiny tab that makes or breaks contact with the internal speaker. Because my headphones break the contact, this tab after much use was stuck in the open position even after the headphones were removed. When I did the procedure you mentioned magically, sound..wow. I am extremely greatful for your troubleshooting skill.
Thanks a million mo3ulla.
If only i had this fix 2 phones ago..hahhahah.

lambrechts said:
Correct, I am shure that this is almost always the problem.
In fact the switch is closed in normal position, and he goes open when you put the headphones.
When he not close as well automatic than, you have a problem.
But in my case it is really not this switch, so I am still looking for the reason why I not have sound.
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Hi lambrechts,
Did you manage to find out the reason?
i have the same problem, my device fell, but i didn't notice the problem until next day (i didn't use it) so i'm not sure if it is because of the drop.
I will open my device and check the Jack pins, but i want to know if you got any fix for this.

mo3ulla said:
here we go
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hey mo3ulla, did your method work after repeated use of the headphone port? did it get stuck again any time after you fixed it?
just asking cause i have this problem on my 9000 and haven't opened it yet so i don't want to open and close it repeatedly
thankss

I have this problem aswell. But I inserted a fork and twisted it around a little and now it works as it should again.

Bumping this thread. Should be a sticky or in the wiki.
Anyways,
I tried the pin trick back when I posted here, it worked but it wasn't permanent. Instead I put a crumpled piece of post-it note above the pink dot in the picture and it worked, up until recently. Does anybody have a method to bend the connecter back down? I'm probably not using the needle right, I press the pink spot, but it pops back up.
Ideas?

twisting the pin really helps. thanks for the solution. I tried to insert my headphone again and the pin always stucked. I'm trying to find a permanent solution for this. Maybe put something to push the pin to be connected everytime I remove the headphone...

I hope this helps. I found it very useful to my Dopod 900. I tried to connect my headphones (sounds works on my headphone) then I disconnect it and sounds works on my stereo/speakers.
*Please do it carefully in pushing the pin upward from inside the hole. Just push it a little bit just enough to touch the upper pin..
additional tip: after you fixed your device, try to install SRS Wow for great audio experience

Quick Fix
I found that if you apply a little pressure between the base and just above the send key this seems to work, I tried this tonight and will report back if goes again.

luckyearl said:
Hi all
It would be great if you shed some light on the problem
Xda exec had a fall!..since then no sounds at all, phone won't ring or won't play music...but has sound if i plugged the headphones in
Any theories/ideas what might have gone wrong...& possible solutions..
any help would be appreciated...thanxs
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could be a damaged PCB motherboard, or lose connetion for the sound chip!
you could try fixnig it, or replacing the motherboard.
a new motherboard could be bought off E-Bay US for a cheapish price =]

genspeed said:
I hope this helps. I found it very useful to my Dopod 900. I tried to connect my headphones (sounds works on my headphone) then I disconnect it and sounds works on my stereo/speakers.
*Please do it carefully in pushing the pin upward from inside the hole. Just push it a little bit just enough to touch the upper pin..
additional tip: after you fixed your device, try to install SRS Wow for great audio experience
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Not sure if the srs wow will work, last time i tried it give lots of other problems like; mute the sounds, works great after you press the power button on and off, then no GPRS and Internet conectivity but if you have worked around those probs pls give an idea?

[Q] Headphone jack disable?

Hello,
I have a Problem with my Xperia X1.
The headphone jack is broken and the device will always return to the headset mode.
So I can not hear anyone during a conversation.
I would like to disable the headphone jack completely. Is there a program for that?

Are you sure it is broken?
Does it still deliver sound to a connected headphone?
Usually the detection of an inserted headphone plug is done via dis-connecting a contact in the socket where the plug is inserted (it re-connects when you pull out the plug). The same dis-connection will also happen if some dirt has accumulated at the place where this contact is, so it stays permanently dis-connected.
Over time dirt creeps into all holes of the devices and depending on your usage and storage style that may have happened now. Try to get that cleaned - maybe it helps.
I have however also seen devices where the connector of the socket to the PBA is simply ripped-off - no way to get that fixed afaik.
Luckily one of the wizards here (ultrashot) also has an X1 (as I remember) and he did a lot of true SW hacking to it, maybe he knows a way to intercept the driver or has a hint which driver to de-activate. Mind that he is very busy with really important stuff - so a simple hint may be the only thing you may get.

@ John Carter I have had the same problem for months now, at first it took a couple of mins for the headset icon to disappear after unplugged then it turned to hours and now days if I'm even lucky . I just found this today: HKLM/System/State/Hardware/Headset 0 .This disables the headset but for me it still does not play sound out the loud speaker like I hoped, in locksreen( I use S2u2) mode the headset icon is gone but when in the main interface the icon is still sitting on taskbar or topbar. It really sucks to have to use a mic headset connector to call and answer voice calls. I'm still searching for answer hopefully somethings comes up. Edit: It's a hardware problem not software.

First of all thank you for your answers.
@ tobbbie
The headphone jack is really broken = (
I've already tried to clean it but that dosent helped.
Thank you for your tip. I'm going to ask ultrashot maybe he can help me there.
@ Viper89
Are you sure it's not a software problem with you device?
For the headphone jack is not so important. I would unsolder him. But I do not know if that would still work.

I had also tried to play with the \status key in the registry with the same (non-) effects. I guess you have to intercept/kill the signal from the HW/driver that steers the other parts into what they do. Not sure where the HW signal enters the SW stack and if that could easily be altered (e.g. by dropping a device-driver). You could play with the HKLM\System\Drivers\builtin branch and then go for headset or alike. You may end up with a non-booting device, so take care to back up in case a hard-reset is needed.
If you are willing to play with soldering (and have some skills), try to solder the contacts of the socket new to the PBA. My guess is that the contacts have either come loose on top of the copper part of the PBA (then you can re-solder) or they have been ripped of the PBA including the copper. You then have to guess where the copper-lines went and re-solder. Worst you can un-solder all parts, but this is not easy to do without decent tools. You may bake the PBA around the socket and ruin the device fully in the end.

John_Carter said:
First of all thank you for your answers.
@ tobbbie
The headphone jack is really broken = (
I've already tried to clean it but that dosent helped.
Thank you for your tip. I'm going to ask ultrashot maybe he can help me there.
@ Viper89
Are you sure it's not a software problem with you device?
For the headphone jack is not so important. I would unsolder him. But I do not know if that would still work.
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No it's definitively a hardware problem. I have actually stopped using my phone for music now and instead my mp3 player. I haven't seen the headset icon for 3 days now so maybe I'm in the clear. I think every time I kept plugging in my headphones to listen to music it kept re-aggravating the headset jack so I figured if I stopped using it completely maybe it will stop messing up and so far it has worked .