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I know the winmo phones can dual boot winmo and android. They boor android from the sdcard.
Im wondering if we can get are phones to dual boot so we can have are working rom ect.... And we can dual boot into the secondary android from the sd card to test are mods
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The short answer is: no.
mysteryemotionz said:
I know the winmo phones can dual boot winmo and android. They boor android from the sdcard.
Im wondering if we can get are phones to dual boot so we can have are working rom ect.... And we can dual boot into the secondary android from the sd card to test are mods
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They can dual boot because Android is an open OS and is free. It would be illegal to put Winmo on our devices without paying for the proper license.
Also, for what possible reason would you even want to do this? To use as a reminder of how primitive Winmo looks and was compared to Android?
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They can dual boot because Android is an open OS and is free. It would be illegal to put Winmo on our devices without paying for the proper license.
Also, for what possible reason would you even want to do this? To use as a reminder of how primitive Winmo looks and was compared to Android?
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I wanna dual boot with 2 separate sets of android for testing purposes
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I think yes, it would be possible. I wouldn't know how, but its been done on android before, and there is an alpha version being worked on already for the Sammy Moment at SDX and Samdroid.
And if this could be achieved it would be a great to help to developers.
I think I would like it just for the purpose of trying out new roms without having to give up my current rom, in case I don't like the new one.
RKight said:
I think I would like it just for the purpose of trying out new roms without having to give up my current rom, in case I don't like the new one.
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if you do a full backup, flash a new ROM, restore data (only) and you don't like the new ROM, you can go back into recovery, restore full backup and voila.. you're back to the ROM you just backed up.
takes 3 minutes to do all this.
no need for dual boot IMO
daddymikey1975 said:
if you do a full backup, flash a new ROM, restore data (only) and you don't like the new ROM, you can go back into recovery, restore full backup and voila.. you're back to the ROM you just backed up.
takes 3 minutes to do all this.
no need for dual boot IMO
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Certain themes with the battery percentage mode will cause boot problems from recovery
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daddymikey1975 said:
if you do a full backup, flash a new ROM, restore data (only) and you don't like the new ROM, you can go back into recovery, restore full backup and voila.. you're back to the ROM you just backed up.
takes 3 minutes to do all this.
no need for dual boot IMO
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I'm aware of that process but if I'm just wanting to tinker with a new rom, I really don't want to go through all that trouble. If I want to try a new Linux distro on my PC, I'm not going to ghost it, install the new distro, then restore the old image later. I'm going to throw the new distro on a second hard drive and dual boot while I decide if I like it. That way, I have a known stable OS, configured the way I want, just a reboot away.
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Certain themes with the battery percentage mode will cause boot problems from recovery
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I have noticed this as well, and a flash with odin plus reinstalling clockworkmod is the only thing that prevents it from corrupting your backups for future use.
daddymikey1975 said:
if you do a full backup, flash a new ROM, restore data (only) and you don't like the new ROM, you can go back into recovery, restore full backup and voila.. you're back to the ROM you just backed up.
takes 3 minutes to do all this.
no need for dual boot IMO
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I don't know. That's fine if you just want to try out a ROM one time, and quickly, or if you can do without your main ROM for a long time. I had a windows phone before I switched to Android. Having the "dual boot" was key to my switching to Android. I was able to install Android, set it up the way I wanted to (which took lots of time) and "play" with it whenever I had time, but at other times I needed to be able to switch back to my main phone. I'd switch a couple times a day sometimes (just a single click to go either way). After a couple of weeks of being able to work with Android I knew I'd be happy switching.
You could do something like this with backups and restores, but I honestly think it would get overly cumbersome. You'd have to backup your main ROM and then the second ROM. Every time you changed a setting or moved something around in either ROM you'd have to remember to make a new backup, or the next time you switched into that ROM all of your changes would be reverted back.
In any case, I don't know how possible it is to have dual boot, but I can certainly see a lot of advantages for some people.
HARET is what makes the WinMo android boot possible and is based on work done with soft/hard SPL. No Android equiv to HARET exists yet. However, a lot of work is happening with HBOOT due to the Vision G2 eMMC situation. I wouldn't be too far off if I were to speculate that an android HARET may be in our future.
Go check out this thread from the Eris forums. - Dual boot recovery hack
As I'm not intimately familiar with the inner workings of Clockwork, I don't know how plausible it is on the DX. It could either be really easy to port since we're already bootstrapped, or nearly impossible. That's a problem for a dev much smarter than me to conquer.
I will say that I tried it out on my Eris. The stock class 2 card was unbearably slow, a class 4 was tolerable, and a class 6 (which cost a small fortune) ran as if it was installed internally. Kinda neat, but not terribly practical for daily use.
I'm sure this has been covered before, but I'm not having luck digging through thousands of threads to find my answer. Its quick and easy for someone who knows more then I do.
I have a T-Mobile US HD2. I've flashed a custom rom of windows (latest version of Core) and I'm trying to run the latest version of Core Droid.
I've been able to install and boot up into Android just fine.....just once though. After the install process when it boots into Android, if I shut off the phone, restart it....blah blah blah it will automatically go back into Windows....and then I have to delete all the Android files and start new.
I've tried using this boot loader http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733752
My options are set to have Android as the default, 30 second delay to let me have a chance to get into Windows incase I ever wanted too, and I have /android set as the Android folder. When I orignally copied all the files to my flash card, I put them in a folder on root called Android. As well, I've done all this on a freshly formatted SD card.
I've tried this several times with a few different WinMO Roms. I've tried a couple different distros of Android but without any better luck. Core seems to be the only one I can actually get to boot.
Please, any help would be great. I know I'm just missing something quick and simple here, but since this is something that I don't know much about I'm kind of stuck
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I should also add that I've tried installing the boot loader both before and after my Android install. It doesn't make a difference either way.
Why do you have to delete Android and start again? Booting back into Windows is correct, of course, but you've not explained what actually goes wrong.
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It seems like Droid wants to go through the whole install process again. It will sit there and do absolutely nothing (I left it sitting overnight on the black HTC screen that shows up when first putting on droid).... The only way I can get back into droid is if I format the SD card and start from scratch. Then if I turn off the phone or reboot it I have to do everything all over again.
I'm trying to just boot into Droid when I turn on my phone without having to worry about Windows. I don't mind a dual boot option. I just don't want to use Windows anymore
The only thing I can suggest is trying a different Android build. Just get one running and then reset your phone to make sure you can restart Android again. Worry about the bootloader later.
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The only thing I can suggest is trying a different Android build. Just get one running and then reset your phone to make sure you can restart Android again. Worry about the bootloader later.
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It seems to be working OK now. I re-flashed Windows and did everything from scratch. Set up the boot loader again and things seem to be ok.
What would you suggest as far as what build to use. I know this is kinda a touchy subject, but can you give me me pros/cons of the big ones?
I've NEVER used Android before so I'm pretty new to this
Dude, there is plenty of threads, even recent ones that already exhaust that question to the full, all you need to do is read them.
quick question for you guys. i keep seeing ''make a nandroid backup'' i tried to search to find what it is and how you do it but had no luck. can someone explain what it is and how you perform one? TIA
It is a backup of your current ROM, everything about your phone as it currently is will be saved; apps, data, homescreens, everything. We do this every so often so that when we inevitably flash a bad ROM or do something to our phones to f them up, we can get back to a working state. You can do it by getting into recovery mode by turning the phone off, then holding the two vol buttons along with power. Or download ROM Manager from the Market, and you can do it from inside that app.
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Be aware it does not back up the kernel. So if your on stock 2.1. And you flash a 2.2 rom and decide you don't like it you can't restore your 2.1 nandroid over a.2.2. This also applies visa versa.
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So I work for Tmobile and love showing off my rooted mytouch 4g in all its glory.
So I requested a warranty exchange and got a TAIWAN VERSION w/ GOOD SCREEN in return. Like Day and Night.
Upon Receiving my warranty exchange phone it was 2.2.1. I attempted the same Visionary Root Process, (however was there some extra file i needed to DL? i forget)
After rooting my new phone, S-Off, I had flashed FAUX stock kernel 0.4.0b.
THEN THIS HAPPENS:
I cant get past the mytouch 4g splash screen. The first logo that appears. It gets stuck or bootloops. I can HBOOT and get into recovery 3.0.0.5
This is all i can do...i already asked for another warranty exchange...but in the meanwhile..how can i fix this problem or what did i do wrong?
ALSO can you backup one mytouch 4g and load it back up on another mytouch 4g with the same sd card? Thanks!
I had this problem with my MT4G when I flashed his kernal. It seems that his kernals are not designed to work with every 4g device. I hope you did a nandroid backup on the device. I was never able to get past the mytouch splash screen with his kernals
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Well, at since you can get into recovery there should be a number of things you can do to get your phone to boot.
Download a new ROM to flash, if you are on clockwork 3 then you need CM7.
Clockwork has usb drive ability, turn it on, transfer the ROM then flash.
If you can get into HBoot or Recovery on ANY phone, you're safe. Hell, if you can't get into HBoot, your phone wouldn't even start up since HBoot is basically the equivalent to BIOS.
THE VERSION OF CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY YOU USE IS CRITICAL!!!
The version you are using is for Android 2.3 only.
Flash a v2 Recovery with adb or fastboot and reinstall your kernel, or install CM7.
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I am trying to do this. How would I get my comp.to.recognize the devise. Sometimes it says mass storage device detected sometimes not. So I need cm7 rom to b able.to boot?
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Tiltpoet said:
I am trying to do this. How would I get my comp.to.recognize the devise. Sometimes it says mass storage device detected sometimes not. So I need cm7 rom to b able.to boot?
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If you've ever connected it via USB, it should have installed the drivers automatically (at least on Windows). I think the ADB driver only installs if you had "USB Debugging" checked. Mass Storage usually only refers to mounting the SD card; the driver for ADB is different. Look for something like Android Phone or Android ADB Interface in your device manager (again assuming Windows).
If you have ADB set up, try running the adb devices command. If it spits back the serial number of your phone, you should be okay to proceed.
Don't exchange the phone, fix it...
Just use another phone to copy the latest CM7 to the root of your sdcard and flash, if that doesn't work do the same thing with a PD15IMG.zip file to the root of your sdcard, hboot and restore to stock.
I have no problem with someone doing a warranty exchange for a hardware issue, but if you break your phone, don't make someone else pay for it...
i ended up solving the problem by doing what some of you had suggested. I flashed CM7 and WAH-LaH! when the phone got past the splash screen into CM7 i was on cloud 9.
Now What are the benefits of running CM7? as opposed to going back to Sense w/ Faux kernel again?
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how would i go back to a sense type rom again? would i go back into rom manager and flash a different recovery?
XDA you have been so helpful!
___bonus__also the haptic feedback on this phone was not as strong as my original..though idk if its just me or not..should i call tmobile and stop shipment of the OTHER phone? how is it i have a taiwan version plum W/ good screen?
There are no Sense-based Gingerbread (Android 2.3) ROMs available now ... Best practice its to make a Nandroid backup of CM7 with your installed CWM Recovery, then flash a version 2.x of CWM Recovery to install any Froyo (Android 2.2) based ROM.
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Tiltpoet said:
i ended up solving the problem by doing what some of you had suggested. I flashed CM7 and WAH-LaH! when the phone got past the splash screen into CM7 i was on cloud 9.
Now What are the benefits of running CM7? as opposed to going back to Sense w/ Faux kernel again?
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how would i go back to a sense type rom again? would i go back into rom manager and flash a different recovery?
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Good to see it is working.
Its mostly personal preference at this point. Sense on the MT4G is pretty responsive and has some nice features. CM7 has its own tweaks and features. You loose the sense widgets but many can be replaced with alternatives in the market. You gain and loose relative in both ROMs So try out both and decide.
Use ROM Manager app to flash a new recovery. One of the 2. versions, then flash a froyo based ROM.
what about flashing kernels..are those "roms"
is cm7 itself pretty battery efficient? i still downloaded setcpu and set it to 11---.
2.XXX ..u mean like 2.5.1.4 for example..sorry not lookin at the phone atm.
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i also dl the cynogyn updater or wut not..wut url do i add for themes?
Tiltpoet said:
what about flashing kernels..are those "roms"
is cm7 itself pretty battery efficient? i still downloaded setcpu and set it to 11---.
2.XXX ..u mean like 2.5.1.4 for example..sorry not lookin at the phone atm.
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i also dl the cynogyn updater or wut not..wut url do i add for themes?
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Kernels are not ROMs, the kernel is the underlying software of an OS. The kernel talks to the hardware and lets different parts of the OS communicate. Kernels are ROM specific, or Framework specific. A sense ROM can not use a AOSP kernel and vice versa.
CM ROMs can be good on battery, or not. It all depends on personal use and how you set it up.
That is a good recovery to use when flashing sense ROMs.
Not sure about the updater. If it is the one I am thinking, it hasn't been updated in a while. I think it has been abandoned in favor of ROM Manager. CM updater did come in some of his older ROMs, before ROM manager became the norm.
So I can or cannot flash fauxs kernel. I really liked the smartass profile. Also..I'm on cm 7 now...y do I get force closes on my market.
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As people have already said, you used the wrong version of clockwork, also, use clockwork to flash a new rom. And make sure you use the right version.
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So I can or cannot flash fauxs kernel. I really liked the smartass profile. Also..I'm on cm 7 now...y do I get force closes on my market.
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Try fix permissions. If that does not work, do a full wipe (factory reset). If that still does not work, try re-flashing the ROM.
If you flashed a new kernel before you started having issues, this may fix it, or you may need to wipe caches and re-flash the kernel.
Does anyone know of a dual booting recovery or a way that i can have two ROMS at once on my phone. That way i can freely switch on start up from cyanogen mod to MIUI.
giggz2010 said:
Does anyone know of a dual booting recovery or a way that i can have two ROMS at once on my phone. That way i can freely switch on start up from cyanogen mod to MIUI.
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I don't know about having two ROM's at once but you could just make a backup of both CM7 and MIUI. It saves all your setting and only takes about 5 minutes to flash from one to the other.
I assume your referring to a nan-droid backup and if that's so i would love to do that but the issue with that is i have the default android software saved there. I would over write it but the fear of losing it and not being able to flash back in case i need to take my phone back to the store and get a new one. I have actually done this before and they accepted it because i flashed the factory software from a update on te HTC page, unfortunately there is no update from the original software on the HTC site for the shift.
You can make multiple backups through ROM manager. I have both a Cm7 and a MIUI backup saved to my SD card.
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I assume your referring to a nan-droid backup and if that's so i would love to do that but the issue with that is i have the default android software saved there. I would over write it but the fear of losing it and not being able to flash back in case i need to take my phone back to the store and get a new one. I have actually done this before and they accepted it because i flashed the factory software from a update on te HTC page, unfortunately there is no update from the original software on the HTC site for the shift.
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No he is speaking of a dual boot recovery, where when I powered my phone up I could choose cm7 or I could choose miui to load, and I would have this choice everytime I booted.
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I've been looking for something like this for cm7 and sense dual booting.
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There was someone working on this on the heroc forum, but I'm unsure if it ever actually worked or not.
I would much rather choose upon booting then going through the rom manager. Although i have never tried what you were speaking of so I'll give that a shot. Hopefully i can get MIUI to stop randomly restarting itself so i can use the ROM.