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idk what yet

but i work for best buy mobile and my boss knows i would marry android.
she told me today she got an email about the EVO but before she could check it we got busy as hell. but anyways im not trieng to get anyone all excited but just thought i throw any info i get to you all
ill find out tom. what it was.

Doubtful it will be anything substantial but nontheless keep us informed bro.
Cheers!

Over on Android forums there's an insider that has predicted everything that has happened with this phone, and listed specs before it was even the Evo. He's pretty reliable.
Anyways, he's saying the Evo will launch on June 6th for Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc, and for Sprint on the 13th. If not the 6th for retail stores, then the 13th for everyone.
Pre-orders will start in mid- to late May.

keatre said:
Over on Android forums there's an insider that has predicted everything that has happened with this phone, and listed specs before it was even the Evo. He's pretty reliable.
Anyways, he's saying the Evo will launch on June 6th for Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc, and for Sprint on the 13th. If not the 6th for retail stores, then the 13th for everyone.
Pre-orders will start in mid- to late May.
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thats true its a good forum

Abbens said:
thats true its a good forum
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any scoop on pricing?

ha well you all know. but anyways its the may12th event in NY. i totally forgot i posted this :X sorry but anyways ill get more info tom. and hopefully remember lol

thats a day after my birthday! haha

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any scoop on pricing?
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The rumors are going everywhere on this. People are saying that since Sprint said it will be price competitively, that it should be around the 200 mark. However, others are saying the TP2 (all be that its a world phone built for business class) was priced A LOT higher than 200 upon release. Furthermore, since the Evo is the first phone for the US to incorporate 4G along with the mobile-hot spot, a giant screen, and Sprint's history of not having a freakin clue as to how to price phones "competitively" it could be as high as $300, but then, that would be pretty stupid to do as the iPhone will be released shortly after (if the release window stays in the late May early June slot)
tl;dr - $200 - $250
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but anyways its the may12th event in NY. i totally forgot i posted this :X sorry but anyways ill get more info tom. and hopefully remember lol
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Not sure if this will include the Evo or not. It's just a screening of Bruckheimer movies. BUT! They did show the Prince of Persia trailer at CTIA, soooo.. I'll let you think on that.

Looking like August 11th release date!

It appears that more evidence is showing an August 11th release date:
http://www.9computerstore.com/2010/08/06/sprint-samsung-epic-4g-release-date-and-features

They don't list a source, so this provides no new evidence for an August 11th release.

you could have posted this in one of the other 2 speculation threads.

Eating Crow!
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you could have posted this in one of the other 2 speculation threads.
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You know, those other two threads have really gone off topic, and IF the Epic releases on the 11th, then a separate thread is warranted. But only time will tell, and one of us is going to be eating some crow, and if the Epic releases on the 11th, it will be you, and if it doesn't, I guess I am the one who will be eating it. I have had to eat it before, and it doesn't taste very well, so I hope I don't have to eat it again. You take care Radar 5.

Ken B said:
You know, those other two threads have really gone off topic, and IF the Epic releases on the 11th, then a separate thread is warranted. But only time will tell, and one of us is going to be eating some crow, and if the Epic releases on the 11th, it will be you, and if it doesn't, I guess I am the one who will be eating it. I have had to eat it before, and it doesn't taste very well, so I hope I don't have to eat it again. You take care Radar 5.
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Thanks Ken B, you take care too.

I work for Sprint, and there has been no official release date yet...

craigslist agrees with august 11
http://harrisburg.craigslist.org/mob/1883640910.html

I speculate that the 20th is the original date. Yet, competitiveness drove sprint and samsung to push for the 11th; so as to beat the torch and possibly the droid 2 to the market. Their endeavors were most likely spoiled when a software glitch of some sort was found. Now, they are frantically fixing the issue and may soft launch the phone on the 11th if said glitch is repaired, or can be made available via update a short time after (much like the evo). The 20th, is a solid release date, and allows Sammy and Sprint to submit the software fix to manufacturing. This is purely conjecture and my outright lust for this phone has driven my imagination to draw such a conclusion.
Again is total BS that I am spewing.
Give me a release date Sprint, or you may soon lose a customer you never had.

nc2nc2 said:
I speculate that the 20th is the original date. Yet, competitiveness drove sprint and samsung to push for the 11th; so as to beat the torch and possibly the droid 2 to the market. Their endeavors were most likely spoiled when a software glitch of some sort was found. Now, they are frantically fixing the issue and may soft launch the phone on the 11th if said glitch is repaired, or can be made available via update a short time after (much like the evo). The 20th, is a solid release date, and allows Sammy and Sprint to submit the software fix to manufacturing. This is purely conjecture and my outright lust for this phone has driven my imagination to draw such a conclusion.
Again is total BS that I am spewing.
Give me a release date Sprint, or you may soon lose a customer you never had.
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Sprint won't lose you, you WILL buy an epic

yeah, you probably right lol

Samsung Tweets said:
@RCNorm still coming in "weeks." When it becomes "days," we will let you know RC! Sorry it's taking a bit. #Epic4Gissoontobeyourbestfriend
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According to Samsung's official Twitter account, we are at least 14 days away from any launch, which would me 21st at the earliest. I hope they are lying, but doesn't look like it.
https://twitter.com/Samsungtweets/status/20577718317

USAF22 said:
According to Samsung's official Twitter account, we are at least 14 days away from any launch, which would me 21st at the earliest. I hope they are lying, but doesn't look like it.
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I know right? And I am one of those people that wants this phone so badly I have been blatantly dismissing all those September or later claims, but this is not good news, and is probably the most specific they have been since the "Summer" commitment.

I'm really not look forward to this.

They're probably just trying to get all the bugs worked out. If the epic comes out with a lot of bugs, some people might return it and go to the Evo. I'm happy to wait a bit so all the bugs can be fixed. It will come soon enough. I'd be shocked if it didn't come out in August.

I went to another Sprint store that had the Epic ad in the window. They are the second store to tell me Aug 20 is the release date for the Epic. But, they don't know the price.

I hope it has the same $450 price tag (or less!) as the EVO. If I decide to go for the Epic I could probably get $400 for my EVO, so $50 would be a great price. Plus I still have my contract due October 1st.

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I hope it has the same $450 price tag (or less!) as the EVO. If I decide to go for the Epic I could probably get $400 for my EVO, so $50 would be a great price. Plus I still have my contract due October 1st.
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All the other Galaxy S retail for 500$...450$ is unlikely :/

kennethlongshaw said:
craigslist agrees with august 11
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That posting is from an authorized retailer, not the corporate store on Walnut St / 22.
Authorized retailers seem to be the last ones to get new phones in stock, as I have experienced with the Instinct release.

gTen said:
All the other Galaxy S retail for 500$...450$ is unlikely :/
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Sprint looks to be making all their high end smartphones to be $450. However, I can say for a fact that the 20th is unlikely, and NOBODY knows a concrete release date yet, at least not in the retail end.

Called BB today for some info...

The salesguy told me that pre-ordering will start on Feb. 20 and that the actual launch day has yet to be confirmed because "google is still doing last minute tweaks to Honeycomb." They're hoping for February 27th.
Also, he said he is unaware of the wifi-only model--I assume he means when it will be released since we have confirmation that one does exist.
Any finally, most interesting, is that if you buy a 3G version, in order to upgrade it to 4G, Motorola will be sending you an empty box to ship the xoom back to them so they can make the upgrade. They are promising a one week turn-around.
This guy may be ill-informed but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about. Just an FYI to the community.
BTW: I live in Ft. Lauderdale, FL (called local BB)

The 4G upgrade is software based and we'll get it OTA.
I would think that the Xooms are already boxed up sitting in a warehouse. However, I really dont know how quick they can go from the production line to shipping to the stores... but it may be possible to so that within a few days.
I hope its not pushed back, but I'd rather have a good experience out of the box then wait 2-3 weeks for an OTA patch.

kenyu73 said:
The 4G upgrade is software based and we'll get it OTA.
I would think that the Xooms are already boxed up sitting in a warehouse. However, I really dont know how quick they can go from the production line to shipping to the stores... but it may be possible to so that within a few days.
I hope its not pushed back, but I'd rather have a good experience out of the box then wait 2-3 weeks for an OTA patch.
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no the guy was right, the xoom comes with a evdo radio only. they have to add the lte radio in there but its at no cost. their probably is an ota for 4g but its not the only requirement. im ready to pick one up my self but if it comes with better experience for me later then i can wait.

socomdark said:
no the guy was right, the xoom comes with a evdo radio only. they have to add the lte radio in there but its at no cost. their probably is an ota for 4g but its not the only requirement. im ready to pick one up my self but if it comes with better experience for me later then i can wait.
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I was thinking it was some chip to replace, then I stumbled on another tech site that simply stated it was a software patch.
Sending the Xoom to MOTO for chip replacement is going to cost MOTO 100's of thousands of dollars; i dont get it. Unless we have to pay for shipping.

If sending it in is a requirement I think they need to disclose that in advance. If I was buying one and the LTE upgrade was a factor, I wouldn't want to have to send it in to be upgraded and be without it for a week or more.
Think I'll wait longer for the WiFi model than deal with that.

I could have sworn that they said the LTE update would be OTA during CES, but I admit, I could be wrong.

Xevilious said:
I could have sworn that they said the LTE update would be OTA during CES, but I admit, I could be wrong.
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here's a link from androidcentral
http://www.androidcentral.com/motor...ardware-upgrade-4g-software-patch-microsd-use
it wasnt the link i was looking for but i know androidcentral is also a credible source but if you search for it you will see that it needs a hardware upgrade. As for the upgrades costing motorola, they are probably already getting their cut from the price of the xoom. Sanjay said the price of the xoom is justifiable because its 4g upgradeable which might mean they already figured in the cost of 4g upgrade with original price of xoom. It sucks for us because those who arent in 4g coverage are getting charged for it but its a smart move by moto since 100% of the tablets they sell wont be all coming back.

The more I read, the more I want to wait for wifi only. I hear that Costco has a 90 day return policy. I want the tablet so bad, I may spring for one and hope the wifi model comes out b4 the 90 days...

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here's a link from androidcentral
http://www.androidcentral.com/motor...ardware-upgrade-4g-software-patch-microsd-use
it wasnt the link i was looking for but i know androidcentral is also a credible source but if you search for it you will see that it needs a hardware upgrade. As for the upgrades costing motorola, they are probably already getting their cut from the price of the xoom. Sanjay said the price of the xoom is justifiable because its 4g upgradeable which might mean they already figured in the cost of 4g upgrade with original price of xoom. It sucks for us because those who arent in 4g coverage are getting charged for it but its a smart move by moto since 100% of the tablets they sell wont be all coming back.
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Good point. I would have done the same thing if I was them. Probably only going to get a 40% return, if that, for the 4G upgrade. It's all just added revenue to them. And once the LTE upgrade is installed on new out-the-door units, they'll still be making a larger profit due to the higher price.
The $200 difference between WiFi and the 3G model make a lot more sense now if you've got to send it in.

pathtologos said:
The salesguy told me that pre-ordering will start on Feb. 20 and that the actual launch day has yet to be confirmed because "google is still doing last minute tweaks to Honeycomb." They're hoping for February 27th.
Also, he said he is unaware of the wifi-only model--I assume he means when it will be released since we have confirmation that one does exist.
Any finally, most interesting, is that if you buy a 3G version, in order to upgrade it to 4G, Motorola will be sending you an empty box to ship the xoom back to them so they can make the upgrade. They are promising a one week turn-around.
This guy may be ill-informed but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about. Just an FYI to the community.
BTW: I live in Ft. Lauderdale, FL (called local BB)
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this might be why if it has to do with software.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/feb/16/google-music-itunes-competitor-android
maybe they are adding google music to it. none of the people who had hands on mentioned it. maybe google wanted to sneak in something so they could get a suprise in against the competition.

socomdark said:
this might be why if it has to do with software.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/feb/16/google-music-itunes-competitor-android
maybe they are adding google music to it. none of the people who had hands on mentioned it. maybe google wanted to sneak in something so they could get a suprise in against the competition.
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I was thinking the same thing. I think adding google music to the xoom out of the box will be huge for Google.

pathtologos said:
The salesguy told me that pre-ordering will start on Feb. 20 and that the actual launch day has yet to be confirmed because "google is still doing last minute tweaks to Honeycomb." They're hoping for February 27th.
Also, he said he is unaware of the wifi-only model--I assume he means when it will be released since we have confirmation that one does exist.
Any finally, most interesting, is that if you buy a 3G version, in order to upgrade it to 4G, Motorola will be sending you an empty box to ship the xoom back to them so they can make the upgrade. They are promising a one week turn-around.
This guy may be ill-informed but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about. Just an FYI to the community.
BTW: I live in Ft. Lauderdale, FL (called local BB)
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Did you talk to the store manager or just sales rep? Let me know the name and I will try and dig a little more. {have several contacts in Minneapolis}

You should know that you can't trust a single thing a BB employee tells you, even if he was the store manager. Only trust that which is on an official handout. If that employee pulls out a printout like the leaked info.. then you can trust him. To test, just call the same store every 2 hours and see how often you get an employee swear by something different than another employee.
What's more annoying is when you know they have been giving info around preorder time, and they play stupid.

If Xoom will be available for pre-order this weekend, I would think they would have announced something by now. What do you guys think?

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If Xoom will be available for pre-order this weekend, I would think they would have announced something by now. What do you guys think?
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nah they dont announce pre-orders until they are ready for situations that just happened. if they would have announced that pre-order for the 17th and didnt have them ready, then people would have been raging all over the place just like how they did with the thunderbolt.

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nah they dont announce pre-orders until they are ready for situations that just happened. if they would have announced that pre-order for the 17th and didnt have them ready, then people would have been raging all over the place just like how they did with the thunderbolt.
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Well I registered for updates on motorola/xoom site and I am supposed to be the first to know when it is available! I guess we continue to wait.

I stopped by BB today. All the reps said presale starts tomorrow and device in stores on 24th (though they didn't know much, including price, I informed them haha - but recent emails stated these dates). Asked them if they matched price, incase Costco is $100 cheaper, said it depends. I would think they'd match competition though...
Also, I don't recall the Atrix presale being announced officially until the day of - I'd imagine the Xoom being done the same way.
On another post, about wirefly, someone said something about Verizon starting Xoom sales on the 23, anyone else hear this?

keitht said:
Well I registered for updates on motorola/xoom site and I am supposed to be the first to know when it is available! I guess we continue to wait.
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Yea i registered too but haven't received a single update..not a one lol...so much for that..they probaly will email you a week from now lol

Slimgym20 said:
Asked them if they matched price, incase Costco is $100 cheaper, said it depends. I would think they'd match competition though...
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Everyone that has come into COSTCO talking about can i get a printout of this price so someone will match it, comes back saying they didn't match it. Most business will say price match except so and so and so...one being warehouse clubs.

I called 3 BB's tonight: two of them told me they are doing pre-orders tomorrow, and the other one (the closest one to me) said they are not doing a pre-order at all.

London Galaxy Note Launch

Does anyone have any details about this launch which I understand takes place on the 27 Oct?

Go to Clove.co.uk
Check oit Clove.co.uk, they've been accepting pre-orders since 10/13/11. The buzz WAS it's release date would be November 1 - but it looks like they've done a 360 and are now stating it release could be 11/17 as originally announced.
I pre-ordered cuz of the earlier release date, they've already charged my card:, and now I don't know a damn thing!
I'm so confused
Go here http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/10/20/samsung-galaxy-note-coming-to-clove-november-1st-495-vat/ to check out the news.

I'm not sure what they are planning to do. Would be nice with a live stream. I would love to see it and see if they are saying anything about ICS update.

JLG1985 said:
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Go here http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/10/20/samsung-galaxy-note-coming-to-clove-november-1st-495-vat/ to check out the news.
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(Off topic)
Interesting .... Glonass navigation. Navigation on Russian satellites. Wonder how accurate that is.

JLG1985 said:
Check oit Clove.co.uk, they've been accepting pre-orders since 10/13/11. The buzz WAS it's release date would be November 1 - but it looks like they've done a 360 and are now stating it release could be 11/17 as originally announced.
I pre-ordered cuz of the earlier release date, they've already charged my card:, and now I don't know a damn thing!
I'm so confused
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Has Clove contacted you and said the release date is now pushed back? The site says it is "TBC".

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Interesting .... Glonass navigation. Navigation on Russian satellites. Wonder how accurate that is.
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In Soviet Russia...

It seems Clove is now saying that the release date is now "early-mid November" which is very disappointing. However, according to their Blog, anyone who accepted an invitation to confirm their order on the basis of a release date of 1 Nov can get a refund. If the original 17 Nov proves to be the actual release date then I'm not sure it is worth asking for a refund and risk not getting delivery on the 17 November or even before Xmas because you will have lost your place in the queue.

JLG1985 said:
Check oit Clove.co.uk, they've been accepting pre-orders since 10/13/11. The buzz WAS it's release date would be November 1 - but it looks like they've done a 360 and are now stating it release could be 11/17 as originally announced.
I pre-ordered cuz of the earlier release date, they've already charged my card:, and now I don't know a damn thing!
I'm so confused
Go here http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/10/20/samsung-galaxy-note-coming-to-clove-november-1st-495-vat/ to check out the news.
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Clove are saying it could be "early-mid November" so it could be earlier than 17 Nov.

Gaugerer said:
It seems Clove is now saying that the release date is now "early-mid November" which is very disappointing. However, according to their Blog, anyone who accepted an invitation to confirm their order on the basis of a release date of 1 Nov can get a refund. If the original 17 Nov proves to be the actual release date then I'm not sure it is worth asking for a refund and risk not getting delivery on the 17 November or even before Xmas because you will have lost your place in the queue.
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Do you think there is going to be a huge demand for this phone? I figured the price alone would hurt its sales. I haven't even put a pre-order in yet, as I figured places would have plenty of stock. What are people's thoughts on availability??

Hmmmm ........
I thought it was released already..... I know a couple ppl have them already wonder how they did that both in U K
Either way Looking to get one as soon as possible......

It's looking like mid November possibly later. Touch Wiz has to be able to handle Ice Cream (rumor.)

The release date still hasn't been confirmed. I have pre-ordered from expansys which says could be available on 28th. That's the next day of Samsung's 27th announcement.
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Third party vendors on the german amazon claim to already have it in stock. However my "original" amazon will be delivered in "1 to 3 weeks".

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Do you think there is going to be a huge demand for this phone? I figured the price alone would hurt its sales. I haven't even put a pre-order in yet, as I figured places would have plenty of stock. What are people's thoughts on availability??
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Hm, I was thinking that too - in about a month this device will sell at least 20% below release date prices. By that time there would be reliable root and a decent Touchwiz ROM. An AOSP ICS ROM will also likely appear before the end of November.
Problem is, demand is going to pick up with the Christmas shopping madness, so prices will not be dropping as fast in December.
I will probably get myself one of tthese Notes towards the end of Jan. - the usual retail capitulation time of year. Will not pay over 400 euro for a smartphone - even 400 is ridiculous.
By that time I guess it's going to be clear if you guys early adopters like it.

Here is a site giving more details of the London Launch.
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=7556

renegade027 said:
Hm, I was thinking that too - in about a month this device will sell at least 20% below release date prices. By that time there would be reliable root and a decent Touchwiz ROM. An AOSP ICS ROM will also likely appear before the end of November.
Problem is, demand is going to pick up with the Christmas shopping madness, so prices will not be dropping as fast in December.
I will probably get myself one of tthese Notes towards the end of Jan. - the usual retail capitulation time of year. Will not pay over 400 euro for a smartphone - even 400 is ridiculous.
By that time I guess it's going to be clear if you guys early adopters like it.
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I don't think the device will drop 20% in 2 month. I took a look at SGSII, the price is still high, dropped 100 EUR in a year. Note might not sell the same number of phones, so you might be right, but phones don't lose value until around 4-6 months.(Unless Samsung announce: NO ICS FOR NOTE ) aftar that you et it for free

Is it me or do amazon have it in stock already?
here is the link and tell me what you think:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Gal...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319544400&sr=1-1
Granted it is in blue but I dont really care too much

robifis said:
Is it me or do amazon have it in stock already?
here is the link and tell me what you think:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Gal...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1319544400&sr=1-1
Granted it is in blue but I dont really care too much
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It is not being sold by Amazon UK, but by a third party dealer called Soteluk who are located in Germany and who are quoting a delivery date of 3-18 business days, so not necessarily an earlier delivery than UK based retailers such as Clove.

[Q] When again

Anyone knows when our beloved N4 will be available again? Any official statement besides it is sold out? Surely I am not the only did not put my order through :crying:
rumor round up, Nov 15
1, some suggest to check in on Friday, confirmed by google + and some T Mo stores
2, google backorder mail suggests to give your F5 a 3-week vacation
3, email from google support says "soon" but do not know how soon
Nov 16
1, For those who want to order from Negri (http://negrielectronics.com/lg-e960-nexus-4-16gb-unlocked-black.html#.UKYW7IdQS3E), there is a coupon code you can use: 10offsite will take $10 off. Cheers!
2, reported by some threads: today several lucky ones were told that their phones are on the way as we speak, after receiving BO mail yesterday.
3, no word on when it will be available again for the rest of us...keep waiting
4, got a word from google support that the N4 will be in stock and the price will NOT be changed. This is to respond to some rumors saying play store will not sell it for a while, so the local electronic stores (not ebay) in different countries can gain some, because some will be forced to pay higher price. Certainly hope google keeps the promise to sell us N4 soon.
5, rumor has it that India will receive N4 on Nov 30. This might suggest when the 2nd wave comes!
Nov 18
New rumor: the 2nd batch comes in a few days!
Note again, it is just a rumor from a blog: Nexus 4…weeks away? “Days” according to Play Support

No one knows. Hell, we didn't even know when the thing went on sale yesterday. It was just a feeding frenzy!

No

No.
Edit: I managed to order a 16gb 1 minute after it became available here, but I really feel bad for you, man. On the bright side, early adopters are gonna get screwed with a lot of issues. Sorry, man. Hopefully it becomes available soon.

google play store plays us
maybe then we can just decide to sleep when we are tired and not to refresh the website any chance we get.

is this the official statement from google?
from google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Nexus/posts/Bxd3fySCe28
"in coming weeks"

freeintruth said:
from google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Nexus/posts/Bxd3fySCe28
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I refuse to believe this.

UltimateGoblin said:
I refuse to believe this.
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Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Quite possible if you think, that industry is currently scrambling to produce enough stock for Christmas and will be mostly idling afterwards. So google could use it to produce more N4s.

I just hope there will be plenty of stock eventually instead of all this selling out nonsense.
I was online and had the opportunity to buy the 8GB version but i was confused, i looked at the 16GB version and still said "Coming Soon" so i thought it hadn't gone on sale yet, little did i realise it had already been and gone :laugh:
So while i was waiting the 8GB version sold out too, gutted.

Might be reading too much into the Google+ Post but:
There’s been so much interest for the Nexus lineup that we’ve sold out of some of our initial stock in a few countries!
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draugaz said:
Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Quite possible if you think, that industry is currently scrambling to produce enough stock for Christmas and will be mostly idling afterwards. So google could use it to produce more N4s.
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I feel like Google would probably rather have it come out before the holidays than after lol...
I'll bet next restock will be either this month or next.

Probably somewhere near the end of December I think
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Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
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If they sell the second batch in mid-january, this means making everyone wait 2 months.
2 months is a lot, especially if you have no guarantee that in 2 months' time stocks will be enough for everybody.
The problem with phones is that they age very quickly, and the sooner people get them, the more they are likely to keep them.
I, to conclude, really hope that we will see a second sale next week. Even if stock is going to be, if possible, even lower, it doesn't matter: angry people will stay angry, but we will have some more "lucky ones" which will have a new phone.
But this is just my opinion.

fatjivi said:
Probably somewhere near the end of December I think
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NGF Community :good:
Found you here as well..Whats up man

I've heard everything from them coming out this Thursday/Friday, all the way up to in one more month.
Spoke to a CSR today and they -of course- cant give out any days because they don't even know. "Being a guesser" the CSR said, "i would guess that it [a new batch of Nexus 4's] could come out the 21 to the 23 of the month ,that way they would be ready for Black Friday" he kept going, "but then again, it could take them until December, that's just my opinion. It all depends what the marketing team wants to do."

UltimateGoblin said:
If they sell the second batch in mid-january, this means making everyone wait 2 months.
2 months is a lot, especially if you have no guarantee that in 2 months' time stocks will be enough for everybody.
The problem with phones is that they age very quickly, and the sooner people get them, the more they are likely to keep them.
I, to conclude, really hope that we will see a second sale next week. Even if stock is going to be, if possible, even lower, it doesn't matter: angry people will stay angry, but we will have some more "lucky ones" which will have a new phone.
But this is just my opinion.
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We get anywhere near mid-end of Jan and im passing, you've nailed it with the "tech moves too fast".
No way this will be the best hardware on the market at that point, only selling point is its a Nexus, which despite me being a fan wont swey my decision.
Stret

I just want ask to google, why the hell are so many Nexus 4 being sold on ebay, if i can't buy one in playstore?????

I unfortunately missed being able to buy N4
I imagine Google will have more stock in before Christmas, or they would lose out on quite a bit of $$.
I've heard they are supposed to have more in by Friday 8am (GMT)(or midnight PST) however cannot confirm this.
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A fortnight at least

I am sure they have to do before international launch which is I guess is 29th or 30th by LG.