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http://www.ozcarguide.com/technology/cellphone-pda/2845-sprint-htc-evo-4g-price
As of last week, Sprint made it available for customers to sign up and receive updates on when the HTC Evo 4G would release. Today, Best Buy has done the same over at their website.
Now that Best Buy was officially talking about the HTC Evo 4G I thought I drop by one of their outlets and see if they had any information to share. A Best Buy rep, from the Geek Squad, had advised that they will be selling the HTC Evo 4G on a $199 Sprint contract plan. He had no further information other than this but we can deduce it must be the 2 year plan. So now that we know it is priced similar to the Verizon HTC Incredible (and the now defunct Verizon Nexus One), it looks like the final decision would be based on which carrier you prefer.
OZCAR guesses that customers will more than likely choose their new Android smartphone based on this criteria since the phones are almost evenly matched. Personally I would opt for the Sprint HTC Evo 4G as it does have a few added extras.
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i think saying "a few added extras" is a huge understatement...

Excellent! That's about what I was hoping though I was afraid they'd put it like the TP2. A buddy of mine has the HD2 and I was checking it out since it should be pretty similar. I liked the size, didn't seem obnoxious in my pocket. Can't wait!

This site is EXTREEMLY duboius
This site is not a trusted site for information. If the $199 price point is accurate I will be extreemly happy, but honestly I am expecting to hear $249 on May 19, 2010.

earldriscoll said:
This site is not a trusted site for information. If the $199 price point is accurate I will be extreemly happy, but honestly I am expecting to hear $249 on May 19, 2010.
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May 19th, 2010? Just wondering if you read that date somewhere or if you are just speculating? The "rumor" I believe Engadget was stating is a potential release date of June 6th or 13th. May would be wonderful, but I'm not holding out too much hope for that date as of now...

Sb22 said:
May 19th, 2010? Just wondering if you read that date somewhere or if you are just speculating? The "rumor" I believe Engadget was stating is a potential release date of June 6th or 13th. May would be wonderful, but I'm not holding out too much hope for that date as of now...
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That's the release date for the phone. The speculated full spec/price/plan information / media blitz is rumored to start in mid-May.

keatre said:
That's the release date for the phone. The speculated full spec/price/plan information / media blitz is rumored to start in mid-May.
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I heard June 6th or 13th?

mrmomoman said:
I heard June 6th or 13th?
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Again, June 6th/13th is the release of the phone to sale to the public. Mid-May is when the rumored date that Sprint will release all pricing/plan/formal release date.
In short, May is when Sprint will start pushing the device to the public, letting us know when it will be released, how much it will cost, and the plan details for it.
June 6th/13th will be when the phone is released so that you, me and John Doe may purchase it.

keatre said:
Again, June 6th/13th is the release of the phone to sale to the public. Mid-May is when the rumored date that Sprint will release all pricing/plan/formal release date.
In short, May is when Sprint will start pushing the device to the public, letting us know when it will be released, how much it will cost, and the plan details for it.
June 6th/13th will be when the phone is released so that you, me and John Doe may purchase it.
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FroYo (Android 2.2) is expected to be announced on May 19th as well. I'm curious to see the upgrade path for the EVO 4G to Android 2.2. Hopefully it won't be one of those endless waits for an upgrade. Maybe they'll switch to 2.2 last minute before release(probably not...)

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FroYo (Android 2.2) is expected to be announced on May 19th as well. I'm curious to see the upgrade path for the EVO 4G to Android 2.2. Hopefully it won't be one of those endless waits for an upgrade. Maybe they'll switch to 2.2 last minute before release(probably not...)
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This is very unlikely, and has been discussed quite a bit. The Evo will be shipping most likely with a modified version of 2.1 that supports 4G, however --
The Evo team has been rumored to be working very closely with FroYo, and will support it upon its release. The Evo, although not shipping with 2.2, will receive the update in a very timely manner (after the N1, of course)
Gotta remember this is Sprint's flagship device, and Dan's baby - there is no way they're going to let this thing fall behind in any way of any other device.

Cost
Now let's see what the off contract price is as I just got my Hero in December.

Called BB today for some info...

The salesguy told me that pre-ordering will start on Feb. 20 and that the actual launch day has yet to be confirmed because "google is still doing last minute tweaks to Honeycomb." They're hoping for February 27th.
Also, he said he is unaware of the wifi-only model--I assume he means when it will be released since we have confirmation that one does exist.
Any finally, most interesting, is that if you buy a 3G version, in order to upgrade it to 4G, Motorola will be sending you an empty box to ship the xoom back to them so they can make the upgrade. They are promising a one week turn-around.
This guy may be ill-informed but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about. Just an FYI to the community.
BTW: I live in Ft. Lauderdale, FL (called local BB)

The 4G upgrade is software based and we'll get it OTA.
I would think that the Xooms are already boxed up sitting in a warehouse. However, I really dont know how quick they can go from the production line to shipping to the stores... but it may be possible to so that within a few days.
I hope its not pushed back, but I'd rather have a good experience out of the box then wait 2-3 weeks for an OTA patch.

kenyu73 said:
The 4G upgrade is software based and we'll get it OTA.
I would think that the Xooms are already boxed up sitting in a warehouse. However, I really dont know how quick they can go from the production line to shipping to the stores... but it may be possible to so that within a few days.
I hope its not pushed back, but I'd rather have a good experience out of the box then wait 2-3 weeks for an OTA patch.
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no the guy was right, the xoom comes with a evdo radio only. they have to add the lte radio in there but its at no cost. their probably is an ota for 4g but its not the only requirement. im ready to pick one up my self but if it comes with better experience for me later then i can wait.

socomdark said:
no the guy was right, the xoom comes with a evdo radio only. they have to add the lte radio in there but its at no cost. their probably is an ota for 4g but its not the only requirement. im ready to pick one up my self but if it comes with better experience for me later then i can wait.
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I was thinking it was some chip to replace, then I stumbled on another tech site that simply stated it was a software patch.
Sending the Xoom to MOTO for chip replacement is going to cost MOTO 100's of thousands of dollars; i dont get it. Unless we have to pay for shipping.

If sending it in is a requirement I think they need to disclose that in advance. If I was buying one and the LTE upgrade was a factor, I wouldn't want to have to send it in to be upgraded and be without it for a week or more.
Think I'll wait longer for the WiFi model than deal with that.

I could have sworn that they said the LTE update would be OTA during CES, but I admit, I could be wrong.

Xevilious said:
I could have sworn that they said the LTE update would be OTA during CES, but I admit, I could be wrong.
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here's a link from androidcentral
http://www.androidcentral.com/motor...ardware-upgrade-4g-software-patch-microsd-use
it wasnt the link i was looking for but i know androidcentral is also a credible source but if you search for it you will see that it needs a hardware upgrade. As for the upgrades costing motorola, they are probably already getting their cut from the price of the xoom. Sanjay said the price of the xoom is justifiable because its 4g upgradeable which might mean they already figured in the cost of 4g upgrade with original price of xoom. It sucks for us because those who arent in 4g coverage are getting charged for it but its a smart move by moto since 100% of the tablets they sell wont be all coming back.

The more I read, the more I want to wait for wifi only. I hear that Costco has a 90 day return policy. I want the tablet so bad, I may spring for one and hope the wifi model comes out b4 the 90 days...

socomdark said:
here's a link from androidcentral
http://www.androidcentral.com/motor...ardware-upgrade-4g-software-patch-microsd-use
it wasnt the link i was looking for but i know androidcentral is also a credible source but if you search for it you will see that it needs a hardware upgrade. As for the upgrades costing motorola, they are probably already getting their cut from the price of the xoom. Sanjay said the price of the xoom is justifiable because its 4g upgradeable which might mean they already figured in the cost of 4g upgrade with original price of xoom. It sucks for us because those who arent in 4g coverage are getting charged for it but its a smart move by moto since 100% of the tablets they sell wont be all coming back.
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Good point. I would have done the same thing if I was them. Probably only going to get a 40% return, if that, for the 4G upgrade. It's all just added revenue to them. And once the LTE upgrade is installed on new out-the-door units, they'll still be making a larger profit due to the higher price.
The $200 difference between WiFi and the 3G model make a lot more sense now if you've got to send it in.

pathtologos said:
The salesguy told me that pre-ordering will start on Feb. 20 and that the actual launch day has yet to be confirmed because "google is still doing last minute tweaks to Honeycomb." They're hoping for February 27th.
Also, he said he is unaware of the wifi-only model--I assume he means when it will be released since we have confirmation that one does exist.
Any finally, most interesting, is that if you buy a 3G version, in order to upgrade it to 4G, Motorola will be sending you an empty box to ship the xoom back to them so they can make the upgrade. They are promising a one week turn-around.
This guy may be ill-informed but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about. Just an FYI to the community.
BTW: I live in Ft. Lauderdale, FL (called local BB)
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this might be why if it has to do with software.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/feb/16/google-music-itunes-competitor-android
maybe they are adding google music to it. none of the people who had hands on mentioned it. maybe google wanted to sneak in something so they could get a suprise in against the competition.

socomdark said:
this might be why if it has to do with software.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/feb/16/google-music-itunes-competitor-android
maybe they are adding google music to it. none of the people who had hands on mentioned it. maybe google wanted to sneak in something so they could get a suprise in against the competition.
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I was thinking the same thing. I think adding google music to the xoom out of the box will be huge for Google.

pathtologos said:
The salesguy told me that pre-ordering will start on Feb. 20 and that the actual launch day has yet to be confirmed because "google is still doing last minute tweaks to Honeycomb." They're hoping for February 27th.
Also, he said he is unaware of the wifi-only model--I assume he means when it will be released since we have confirmation that one does exist.
Any finally, most interesting, is that if you buy a 3G version, in order to upgrade it to 4G, Motorola will be sending you an empty box to ship the xoom back to them so they can make the upgrade. They are promising a one week turn-around.
This guy may be ill-informed but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about. Just an FYI to the community.
BTW: I live in Ft. Lauderdale, FL (called local BB)
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Did you talk to the store manager or just sales rep? Let me know the name and I will try and dig a little more. {have several contacts in Minneapolis}

You should know that you can't trust a single thing a BB employee tells you, even if he was the store manager. Only trust that which is on an official handout. If that employee pulls out a printout like the leaked info.. then you can trust him. To test, just call the same store every 2 hours and see how often you get an employee swear by something different than another employee.
What's more annoying is when you know they have been giving info around preorder time, and they play stupid.

If Xoom will be available for pre-order this weekend, I would think they would have announced something by now. What do you guys think?

keitht said:
If Xoom will be available for pre-order this weekend, I would think they would have announced something by now. What do you guys think?
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nah they dont announce pre-orders until they are ready for situations that just happened. if they would have announced that pre-order for the 17th and didnt have them ready, then people would have been raging all over the place just like how they did with the thunderbolt.

socomdark said:
nah they dont announce pre-orders until they are ready for situations that just happened. if they would have announced that pre-order for the 17th and didnt have them ready, then people would have been raging all over the place just like how they did with the thunderbolt.
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Well I registered for updates on motorola/xoom site and I am supposed to be the first to know when it is available! I guess we continue to wait.

I stopped by BB today. All the reps said presale starts tomorrow and device in stores on 24th (though they didn't know much, including price, I informed them haha - but recent emails stated these dates). Asked them if they matched price, incase Costco is $100 cheaper, said it depends. I would think they'd match competition though...
Also, I don't recall the Atrix presale being announced officially until the day of - I'd imagine the Xoom being done the same way.
On another post, about wirefly, someone said something about Verizon starting Xoom sales on the 23, anyone else hear this?

keitht said:
Well I registered for updates on motorola/xoom site and I am supposed to be the first to know when it is available! I guess we continue to wait.
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Yea i registered too but haven't received a single update..not a one lol...so much for that..they probaly will email you a week from now lol

Slimgym20 said:
Asked them if they matched price, incase Costco is $100 cheaper, said it depends. I would think they'd match competition though...
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Everyone that has come into COSTCO talking about can i get a printout of this price so someone will match it, comes back saying they didn't match it. Most business will say price match except so and so and so...one being warehouse clubs.

I called 3 BB's tonight: two of them told me they are doing pre-orders tomorrow, and the other one (the closest one to me) said they are not doing a pre-order at all.

new timeline for HSUPA update

I just got off the phone with a rep from ATT who followed up with a complaint I filed with the BBB.
This guy was a lot nicer then past CSR's that I've talked to in the past. He informed me that ATT is aware of all the problems that people have had with the Atrix and the Inspire, and that an update coming up Late April and EARLY MAY will directly address our upload speeds.
So looks like we'll probably get our update at the end of MAY. I should have known that ATT couldn't commit to a whole MONTH to get an update out. Ridiculous. Oh well, the longer I wait, the easier it will be for me to get out of this ETF if I decide to switch.

I don't want to believe it but I think its true.

s1mpd1ddy said:
I just got off the phone with a rep from ATT who followed up with a complaint I filed with the BBB.
This guy was a lot nicer then past CSR's that I've talked to in the past. He informed me that ATT is aware of all the problems that people have had with the Atrix and the Inspire, and that an update coming up Late April and EARLY MAY will directly address our upload speeds.
So looks like we'll probably get our update at the end of MAY. I should have known that ATT couldn't commit to a whole MONTH to get an update out. Ridiculous. Oh well, the longer I wait, the easier it will be for me to get out of this ETF if I decide to switch.
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You say end of April and early May, then say end of May........................which is it? Early May could be May 1st!
We also have applications out already for testing the next update with Motorola, and that will more than likely start this weekend, with the update going live next week sometime if the last update test was anything to go by. That update is rumoured to address upload speeds by turning on HSUPA.
Personally, I wouldn't trust anything coming from a rep. They are there to make you feel good, especially when it relates to a complaint.

CaelanT said:
You say end of April and early May, then say end of May........................which is it? Early May could be May 1st!
We also have applications out already for testing the next update with Motorola, and that will more than likely start this weekend, with the update going live next week sometime if the last update test was anything to go by. That update is rumoured to address upload speeds by turning on HSUPA.
Personally, I wouldn't trust anything coming from a rep. They are there to make you feel good, especially when it relates to a complaint.
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:werd:
thread starter seems to have confused himself.
End of April/Early May is only a week or 2........ which would coincide with the recent emails of testing new software update. I say this is good news!!

facetubespam said:
:werd:
thread starter seems to have confused himself.
End of April/Early May is only a week or 2........ which would coincide with the recent emails of testing new software update. I say this is good news!!
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Sorry guys, I should have clarified... The rep said beginning of May, but when I said end of May, I was inferring that ATT wasn't going to get us this update by the new timeline of early May, and that we would actually get it at the end of May because ATT would *probably* keep pushing back the update.

It's AT&T... the masters of stringing their customers along while they drag their feet.
I don't expect anything from them in April.
The SOAK tests haven't even been released yet, so there is no time for that testing to be completed and still make an end of April release date.

Considering the likely launch of the beta test of the upgrade, if there are no deal breaking new bugs introduced, they can release the update for everyone before end of April. But when implementing new stuff you never know if you introduced new bugs until you start testing it, so I guess that's why AT&T gave you a two week window for release.
This is of course assuming the update beta testers will get is related to the HSUPA.

I was just at our local corporate store on an unrelated issue. When I mentioned the HSUPA cap and my X10 has 4+ times the upload speed of the Atrix, he was completely thrown and didn't look like he even believed me. I didn't bother asking about the upgrade after that.

charlyee said:
I was just at our local corporate store on an unrelated issue. When I mentioned the HSUPA cap and my X10 has 4+ times the upload speed of the Atrix, he was completely thrown and didn't look like he even believed me. I didn't bother asking about the upgrade after that.
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you have to remember that:
A- he probably uses an Iphone
B- he is a salesperson
C- 90% of AT&T salespeople are cashiers, not salesman. Meaning, if someone wants an iphone its "cash or charge?." they wont bother trying to get to know Android

MarcMaiden said:
you have to remember that:
A- he probably uses an Iphone
B- he is a salesperson
C- 90% of AT&T salespeople are cashiers, not salesman. Meaning, if someone wants an iphone its "cash or charge?." they wont bother trying to get to know Android
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While they are certainly not what I would call Android savvy, almost every rep in our local store carries android phones surprisingly.

MarcMaiden said:
you have to remember that:
A- he probably uses an Iphone
B- he is a salesperson
C- 90% of AT&T salespeople are cashiers, not salesman. Meaning, if someone wants an iphone its "cash or charge?." they wont bother trying to get to know Android
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Well said. Sadly enough he carries the Inspire and I would think he would be aware of the data cap.

they can still make it by end of april..when they BETA tested 1.5.7 they still had less than a week release to general public..and this time it isnt a beta it's a pre-release so it would be a shorter turn-around

I have found the average ATT rep, whether store, corporate, or janitor, to be quite uninformed when it comes to "release dates" or "technical knowledge"...regardless of what phone they carry.

I wish people would stop believing **** until it actually happens. When the updates comes out, it comes out. I wish people would stop guessing and speculating on when it's going to be released. ATT sales reps generally don't know when the updates are coming out, the one guy I talked to didn't even know what rooting meant.
Patience is not taught at a young age anymore it seems.

rdubyah said:
I wish people would stop believing **** until it actually happens. When the updates comes out, it comes out. I wish people would stop guessing and speculating on when it's going to be released. ATT sales reps generally don't know when the updates are coming out, the one guy I talked to didn't even know what rooting meant.
Patience is not taught at a young age anymore it seems.
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I think they just need something to whine and cry about once we got speed they'll fall back on bootloader issue..Im not a att or motorola fanboy but I know crying in a unconnected forum wont change anything we ALL elected to stick with the phone despite having the chance to return it..and if you filed a BBB complaint they would have taken phone back after the 30days...so basically we all signed off on the treatment and agreed to endure by keeping the device

Amazing how someone will actually believe what a CSR on the phone says. They stick to the script, or make things up as they go based on the same rumors we all hear.

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Amazing how someone will actually believe what a CSR on the phone says. They stick to the script, or make things up as they go based on the same rumors we all hear.
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Haha, quoted for truth! I was messing with a rep the one day at a local AT&T store asking him when Android 2.2* would be available for the Atrix, and he said later this year, most definitely, then I asked him when 4G will activated and he said 4G is already enabled, which obviously he is wrong on both counts.
I left the store after telling him that the Atrix already ships with 2.2 and he should read up on the products they sell. I don't know how the guy was able to keep his job.. I can take a **** that knows more about phones than that guy. Haha.
**For the hard headed... I KNOW WE HAVE ANDROID 2.2, I WAS OBVIOUSLY ****ING WITH THE SALES REP!

s1mpd1ddy said:
I just got off the phone with a rep from ATT who followed up with a complaint I filed with the BBB.
This guy was a lot nicer then past CSR's that I've talked to in the past. He informed me that ATT is aware of all the problems that people have had with the Atrix and the Inspire, and that an update coming up Late April and EARLY MAY will directly address our upload speeds.
So looks like we'll probably get our update at the end of MAY. I should have known that ATT couldn't commit to a whole MONTH to get an update out. Ridiculous. Oh well, the longer I wait, the easier it will be for me to get out of this ETF if I decide to switch.
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Is that exactly what he said.... basically word-for-word? "Late April and Early May"? Uuh... if that's the case, then i think it should be more like "late April AND early May"... and less the way you put it. Am i the only one that noticed the "and" in between april and may?

blaque72 said:
I think they just need something to whine and cry about once we got speed they'll fall back on bootloader issue..Im not a att or motorola fanboy but I know crying in a unconnected forum wont change anything we ALL elected to stick with the phone despite having the chance to return it..and if you filed a BBB complaint they would have taken phone back after the 30days...so basically we all signed off on the treatment and agreed to endure by keeping the device
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So I think you're directing this towards me, let me just explain my stance here..
Yeah I decided to keep the phone after my 30 day policy expired, my choice to do so or not.
My BBB complaint wasn't about "when I'm getting HSUPA" it was more on the constant lies, shadiness, and deceptive marketing practices that ATT employees were running by me. Most of them were uninformed, and a lot of them were very rude. The CSR that called me today was the nicest person I talked too on the phone. Other CSR's would say I'm lying, or I'm wrong when I accused of ATT crippling their phone (when in all actually ATT did, and admitted to it, not in those words). And almost every CSR rep would say I had the "wrong data plan" and that I would have to discontinue my unlimited data plan for a 4G tiered data plan to access higher download and upload speeds. Some even said I needed a new "sim" when I did have the new 4G sim already.
So the way I saw it, ATT was trying to pull more money out of me and crippling my data by making false claims.
And that was my BBB complaint in a nutshell. Sorry, when I deal with a business I'm paying $100 a month for, I'd expect their employees to be educated in their companies products and offerings. And if they don't know, then I'd expect them to find someone that does know, instead of pushing me towards other, more expensive services.
okay end /rant.
Can't wait till this bootloader is unlocked!

elementaldragon said:
Is that exactly what he said.... basically word-for-word? "Late April and Early May"? Uuh... if that's the case, then i think it should be more like "late April AND early May"... and less the way you put it. Am i the only one that noticed the "and" in between april and may?
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no. I meant Late April OR early may. Didn't mean to be confusing

um, release date is Friday not Thurs ?

I remember specifically on Engadget and now when Google numerous sites say June 16th. But yet now I'm hearing the 17th ? Which is pretty bananas as I took off Thursday working a double Friday.

I've always heard it was the 17th, on Friday.

Here is the press release from samsung.com.
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/newsRead.do?news_seq=19862&page=1&gltype=localnews
"Premium Android Honeycomb Tablet with Ultra-slim, Lightweight Design and Brilliant 10-inch Touchscreen Available Exclusively at Best Buy Union Square Store in New York City Starting June 8; Available Nationwide Starting June 17"
Though maybe you could get lucky and find a retailer that starts selling early?
PS. Maybe online retailers will start shipping on the 16th so that it could arrive at customers homes by the 17th?

jamaicansolja said:
I remember specifically on Engadget and now when Google numerous sites say June 16th. But yet now I'm hearing the 17th ? Which is pretty gay as I took off Thursday working a double Friday.
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Where did you see/hear 16th?

Idk I'm not retarded I feel that way. But if you even Google Samsung 10.1 June 16th many sites say its the release date. Honestly I have been tabletless for over a month waiting if retailers sell out Friday while I work a double I'm gonna have to get a f***king Xoom

UKseagull said:
Where did you see/hear 16th?
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oN Engadget the day it was released in NYC on the eighth. Its hard to find exact URL I'm using my cell

No worries, I hadn't heard anything about the 16th until you mentioned it. The sooner the better, depending on price though.

no it's been the 17th. i just hope that samsung doesn't pull another fast one and make it a release for New Jersey only now, and push the "official" release again another week

radiohead14 said:
no it's been the 17th. i just hope that samsung doesn't pull another fast one and make it a release for New Jersey only now, and push the "official" release again another week
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(With Extreme Sarcasm) What on earth would make you think a company would ever try to do something like that??
I mean gosh that would be like telling everybody the update for your phone you made is coming soon then releasing it six months later.
Or like vague references to Dual Application Processor and then start using the actual brand name a few days before launch.
Or like telling everyone your tablet you make is launching on a specific date only to launch in one store that date and pushing back the full launch one week
Or like telling everyone that folks in your one store launch can only have one specific model after they lined up after hearing about your one store launch two-step move.....
Or like showing an MicroSD card slot on your tablet at every conference and uTube video only to launch without one and require a non existant cellular radio version purchase to *possibly* have a MicroSD card slot.
(And I preordered a Galaxy Tab. I guess Samsung is to me what a abusive white trash husband is to his spouse. Beat me as you may, I will always come back....)

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(With Extreme Sarcasm) blah blah blah
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Meh. The only **** move Sammy pulled was not disclosing that the NY pre-sale was limited to the white 16GB model. None of the other stuff is unusual, let alone worthy of whining.

Can we expect the device to be instore on 17th ?

jamaicansolja said:
Idk I'm not retarded I feel that way. But if you even Google Samsung 10.1 June 16th many sites say its the release date. Honestly I have been tabletless for over a month waiting if retailers sell out Friday while I work a double I'm gonna have to get a f***king Xoom
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I advise you not to resort to such drastic measures. I owned a xoom. Trust me breddren, you don't want to do that.

Berner said:
Meh. The only **** move Sammy pulled was not disclosing that the NY pre-sale was limited to the white 16GB model. None of the other stuff is unusual, let alone worthy of whining.
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Ah so not funny to you at all, got it.......

Has anyone heard of other b&m's other than bb that will have it on the 17th?

RickyMaxX said:
I advise you not to resort to such drastic measures. I owned a xoom. Trust me breddren, you don't want to do that.
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huh ? I've owned 2 Xooms. The Xoom is an incredible device. Beats this in almost all specs minus form factor and weight. I'm buying this solely on its size.

jamaicansolja said:
huh ? I've owned 2 Xooms. The Xoom is an incredible device. Beats this in almost all specs minus form factor and weight. I'm buying this solely on its size.
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The screen is a big ball player as well...and the Xoom is definately lacking in that position.

Continue with your life.. relax its almost weekend and fathers day is coming

The Xoom-VA-Panel is not bad... its good, but it doesnt kill!!!

[Q] When again

Anyone knows when our beloved N4 will be available again? Any official statement besides it is sold out? Surely I am not the only did not put my order through :crying:
rumor round up, Nov 15
1, some suggest to check in on Friday, confirmed by google + and some T Mo stores
2, google backorder mail suggests to give your F5 a 3-week vacation
3, email from google support says "soon" but do not know how soon
Nov 16
1, For those who want to order from Negri (http://negrielectronics.com/lg-e960-nexus-4-16gb-unlocked-black.html#.UKYW7IdQS3E), there is a coupon code you can use: 10offsite will take $10 off. Cheers!
2, reported by some threads: today several lucky ones were told that their phones are on the way as we speak, after receiving BO mail yesterday.
3, no word on when it will be available again for the rest of us...keep waiting
4, got a word from google support that the N4 will be in stock and the price will NOT be changed. This is to respond to some rumors saying play store will not sell it for a while, so the local electronic stores (not ebay) in different countries can gain some, because some will be forced to pay higher price. Certainly hope google keeps the promise to sell us N4 soon.
5, rumor has it that India will receive N4 on Nov 30. This might suggest when the 2nd wave comes!
Nov 18
New rumor: the 2nd batch comes in a few days!
Note again, it is just a rumor from a blog: Nexus 4…weeks away? “Days” according to Play Support

No one knows. Hell, we didn't even know when the thing went on sale yesterday. It was just a feeding frenzy!

No

No.
Edit: I managed to order a 16gb 1 minute after it became available here, but I really feel bad for you, man. On the bright side, early adopters are gonna get screwed with a lot of issues. Sorry, man. Hopefully it becomes available soon.

google play store plays us
maybe then we can just decide to sleep when we are tired and not to refresh the website any chance we get.

is this the official statement from google?
from google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Nexus/posts/Bxd3fySCe28
"in coming weeks"

freeintruth said:
from google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Nexus/posts/Bxd3fySCe28
"in coming weeks"
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I refuse to believe this.

UltimateGoblin said:
I refuse to believe this.
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Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Quite possible if you think, that industry is currently scrambling to produce enough stock for Christmas and will be mostly idling afterwards. So google could use it to produce more N4s.

I just hope there will be plenty of stock eventually instead of all this selling out nonsense.
I was online and had the opportunity to buy the 8GB version but i was confused, i looked at the 16GB version and still said "Coming Soon" so i thought it hadn't gone on sale yet, little did i realise it had already been and gone :laugh:
So while i was waiting the 8GB version sold out too, gutted.

Might be reading too much into the Google+ Post but:
There’s been so much interest for the Nexus lineup that we’ve sold out of some of our initial stock in a few countries!
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draugaz said:
Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Quite possible if you think, that industry is currently scrambling to produce enough stock for Christmas and will be mostly idling afterwards. So google could use it to produce more N4s.
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I feel like Google would probably rather have it come out before the holidays than after lol...
I'll bet next restock will be either this month or next.

Probably somewhere near the end of December I think
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draugaz said:
Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
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If they sell the second batch in mid-january, this means making everyone wait 2 months.
2 months is a lot, especially if you have no guarantee that in 2 months' time stocks will be enough for everybody.
The problem with phones is that they age very quickly, and the sooner people get them, the more they are likely to keep them.
I, to conclude, really hope that we will see a second sale next week. Even if stock is going to be, if possible, even lower, it doesn't matter: angry people will stay angry, but we will have some more "lucky ones" which will have a new phone.
But this is just my opinion.

fatjivi said:
Probably somewhere near the end of December I think
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NGF Community :good:
Found you here as well..Whats up man

I've heard everything from them coming out this Thursday/Friday, all the way up to in one more month.
Spoke to a CSR today and they -of course- cant give out any days because they don't even know. "Being a guesser" the CSR said, "i would guess that it [a new batch of Nexus 4's] could come out the 21 to the 23 of the month ,that way they would be ready for Black Friday" he kept going, "but then again, it could take them until December, that's just my opinion. It all depends what the marketing team wants to do."

UltimateGoblin said:
If they sell the second batch in mid-january, this means making everyone wait 2 months.
2 months is a lot, especially if you have no guarantee that in 2 months' time stocks will be enough for everybody.
The problem with phones is that they age very quickly, and the sooner people get them, the more they are likely to keep them.
I, to conclude, really hope that we will see a second sale next week. Even if stock is going to be, if possible, even lower, it doesn't matter: angry people will stay angry, but we will have some more "lucky ones" which will have a new phone.
But this is just my opinion.
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We get anywhere near mid-end of Jan and im passing, you've nailed it with the "tech moves too fast".
No way this will be the best hardware on the market at that point, only selling point is its a Nexus, which despite me being a fan wont swey my decision.
Stret

I just want ask to google, why the hell are so many Nexus 4 being sold on ebay, if i can't buy one in playstore?????

I unfortunately missed being able to buy N4
I imagine Google will have more stock in before Christmas, or they would lose out on quite a bit of $$.
I've heard they are supposed to have more in by Friday 8am (GMT)(or midnight PST) however cannot confirm this.
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A fortnight at least

I am sure they have to do before international launch which is I guess is 29th or 30th by LG.