I just got off the phone with a rep from ATT who followed up with a complaint I filed with the BBB.
This guy was a lot nicer then past CSR's that I've talked to in the past. He informed me that ATT is aware of all the problems that people have had with the Atrix and the Inspire, and that an update coming up Late April and EARLY MAY will directly address our upload speeds.
So looks like we'll probably get our update at the end of MAY. I should have known that ATT couldn't commit to a whole MONTH to get an update out. Ridiculous. Oh well, the longer I wait, the easier it will be for me to get out of this ETF if I decide to switch.
I don't want to believe it but I think its true.
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I just got off the phone with a rep from ATT who followed up with a complaint I filed with the BBB.
This guy was a lot nicer then past CSR's that I've talked to in the past. He informed me that ATT is aware of all the problems that people have had with the Atrix and the Inspire, and that an update coming up Late April and EARLY MAY will directly address our upload speeds.
So looks like we'll probably get our update at the end of MAY. I should have known that ATT couldn't commit to a whole MONTH to get an update out. Ridiculous. Oh well, the longer I wait, the easier it will be for me to get out of this ETF if I decide to switch.
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You say end of April and early May, then say end of May........................which is it? Early May could be May 1st!
We also have applications out already for testing the next update with Motorola, and that will more than likely start this weekend, with the update going live next week sometime if the last update test was anything to go by. That update is rumoured to address upload speeds by turning on HSUPA.
Personally, I wouldn't trust anything coming from a rep. They are there to make you feel good, especially when it relates to a complaint.
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You say end of April and early May, then say end of May........................which is it? Early May could be May 1st!
We also have applications out already for testing the next update with Motorola, and that will more than likely start this weekend, with the update going live next week sometime if the last update test was anything to go by. That update is rumoured to address upload speeds by turning on HSUPA.
Personally, I wouldn't trust anything coming from a rep. They are there to make you feel good, especially when it relates to a complaint.
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:werd:
thread starter seems to have confused himself.
End of April/Early May is only a week or 2........ which would coincide with the recent emails of testing new software update. I say this is good news!!
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thread starter seems to have confused himself.
End of April/Early May is only a week or 2........ which would coincide with the recent emails of testing new software update. I say this is good news!!
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Sorry guys, I should have clarified... The rep said beginning of May, but when I said end of May, I was inferring that ATT wasn't going to get us this update by the new timeline of early May, and that we would actually get it at the end of May because ATT would *probably* keep pushing back the update.
It's AT&T... the masters of stringing their customers along while they drag their feet.
I don't expect anything from them in April.
The SOAK tests haven't even been released yet, so there is no time for that testing to be completed and still make an end of April release date.
Considering the likely launch of the beta test of the upgrade, if there are no deal breaking new bugs introduced, they can release the update for everyone before end of April. But when implementing new stuff you never know if you introduced new bugs until you start testing it, so I guess that's why AT&T gave you a two week window for release.
This is of course assuming the update beta testers will get is related to the HSUPA.
I was just at our local corporate store on an unrelated issue. When I mentioned the HSUPA cap and my X10 has 4+ times the upload speed of the Atrix, he was completely thrown and didn't look like he even believed me. I didn't bother asking about the upgrade after that.
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I was just at our local corporate store on an unrelated issue. When I mentioned the HSUPA cap and my X10 has 4+ times the upload speed of the Atrix, he was completely thrown and didn't look like he even believed me. I didn't bother asking about the upgrade after that.
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you have to remember that:
A- he probably uses an Iphone
B- he is a salesperson
C- 90% of AT&T salespeople are cashiers, not salesman. Meaning, if someone wants an iphone its "cash or charge?." they wont bother trying to get to know Android
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you have to remember that:
A- he probably uses an Iphone
B- he is a salesperson
C- 90% of AT&T salespeople are cashiers, not salesman. Meaning, if someone wants an iphone its "cash or charge?." they wont bother trying to get to know Android
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While they are certainly not what I would call Android savvy, almost every rep in our local store carries android phones surprisingly.
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you have to remember that:
A- he probably uses an Iphone
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C- 90% of AT&T salespeople are cashiers, not salesman. Meaning, if someone wants an iphone its "cash or charge?." they wont bother trying to get to know Android
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Well said. Sadly enough he carries the Inspire and I would think he would be aware of the data cap.
they can still make it by end of april..when they BETA tested 1.5.7 they still had less than a week release to general public..and this time it isnt a beta it's a pre-release so it would be a shorter turn-around
I have found the average ATT rep, whether store, corporate, or janitor, to be quite uninformed when it comes to "release dates" or "technical knowledge"...regardless of what phone they carry.
I wish people would stop believing **** until it actually happens. When the updates comes out, it comes out. I wish people would stop guessing and speculating on when it's going to be released. ATT sales reps generally don't know when the updates are coming out, the one guy I talked to didn't even know what rooting meant.
Patience is not taught at a young age anymore it seems.
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I wish people would stop believing **** until it actually happens. When the updates comes out, it comes out. I wish people would stop guessing and speculating on when it's going to be released. ATT sales reps generally don't know when the updates are coming out, the one guy I talked to didn't even know what rooting meant.
Patience is not taught at a young age anymore it seems.
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I think they just need something to whine and cry about once we got speed they'll fall back on bootloader issue..Im not a att or motorola fanboy but I know crying in a unconnected forum wont change anything we ALL elected to stick with the phone despite having the chance to return it..and if you filed a BBB complaint they would have taken phone back after the 30days...so basically we all signed off on the treatment and agreed to endure by keeping the device
Amazing how someone will actually believe what a CSR on the phone says. They stick to the script, or make things up as they go based on the same rumors we all hear.
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Amazing how someone will actually believe what a CSR on the phone says. They stick to the script, or make things up as they go based on the same rumors we all hear.
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Haha, quoted for truth! I was messing with a rep the one day at a local AT&T store asking him when Android 2.2* would be available for the Atrix, and he said later this year, most definitely, then I asked him when 4G will activated and he said 4G is already enabled, which obviously he is wrong on both counts.
I left the store after telling him that the Atrix already ships with 2.2 and he should read up on the products they sell. I don't know how the guy was able to keep his job.. I can take a **** that knows more about phones than that guy. Haha.
**For the hard headed... I KNOW WE HAVE ANDROID 2.2, I WAS OBVIOUSLY ****ING WITH THE SALES REP!
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I just got off the phone with a rep from ATT who followed up with a complaint I filed with the BBB.
This guy was a lot nicer then past CSR's that I've talked to in the past. He informed me that ATT is aware of all the problems that people have had with the Atrix and the Inspire, and that an update coming up Late April and EARLY MAY will directly address our upload speeds.
So looks like we'll probably get our update at the end of MAY. I should have known that ATT couldn't commit to a whole MONTH to get an update out. Ridiculous. Oh well, the longer I wait, the easier it will be for me to get out of this ETF if I decide to switch.
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Is that exactly what he said.... basically word-for-word? "Late April and Early May"? Uuh... if that's the case, then i think it should be more like "late April AND early May"... and less the way you put it. Am i the only one that noticed the "and" in between april and may?
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I think they just need something to whine and cry about once we got speed they'll fall back on bootloader issue..Im not a att or motorola fanboy but I know crying in a unconnected forum wont change anything we ALL elected to stick with the phone despite having the chance to return it..and if you filed a BBB complaint they would have taken phone back after the 30days...so basically we all signed off on the treatment and agreed to endure by keeping the device
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So I think you're directing this towards me, let me just explain my stance here..
Yeah I decided to keep the phone after my 30 day policy expired, my choice to do so or not.
My BBB complaint wasn't about "when I'm getting HSUPA" it was more on the constant lies, shadiness, and deceptive marketing practices that ATT employees were running by me. Most of them were uninformed, and a lot of them were very rude. The CSR that called me today was the nicest person I talked too on the phone. Other CSR's would say I'm lying, or I'm wrong when I accused of ATT crippling their phone (when in all actually ATT did, and admitted to it, not in those words). And almost every CSR rep would say I had the "wrong data plan" and that I would have to discontinue my unlimited data plan for a 4G tiered data plan to access higher download and upload speeds. Some even said I needed a new "sim" when I did have the new 4G sim already.
So the way I saw it, ATT was trying to pull more money out of me and crippling my data by making false claims.
And that was my BBB complaint in a nutshell. Sorry, when I deal with a business I'm paying $100 a month for, I'd expect their employees to be educated in their companies products and offerings. And if they don't know, then I'd expect them to find someone that does know, instead of pushing me towards other, more expensive services.
okay end /rant.
Can't wait till this bootloader is unlocked!
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Is that exactly what he said.... basically word-for-word? "Late April and Early May"? Uuh... if that's the case, then i think it should be more like "late April AND early May"... and less the way you put it. Am i the only one that noticed the "and" in between april and may?
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no. I meant Late April OR early may. Didn't mean to be confusing
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Just in case you really need to know. June 19th is when tmo anounces the slide through commercials and they r having a father's day special event they r going to announce too. Not as big a deal as everyone thinks.
So why are they opening 2 hours early,and where the heck is my froyo,tmo rep told mewe'de have it on launch,I need apps2sd,my phone is outta storage,i'm going to curse someone at tmobile out.htc and google should have never let tmobile have any say in this device cause they oveloaded it with bull**** you cant delete,im so friggin angry,I just want control over my phone and nobody can even root it,AGGGHHHHH!!! Sorry just had to get that out.
I think you've let it out in everyone of your post in the Slide section.. I'm sure your 14 day return period isn't up. RETURN IT.
A friend of mine who works for TMO told me that they are rolling out a new store design. They've had several of the concept stores open in certain test markets for almost 3 years. I worked for them when they were planning these interactive and user friendly stores with video tech support on site.
While I think it's cool and all, I'm more interested in them improving network service and offering phones that aren't outdated the moment you slip your SIM in.
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So why are they opening 2 hours early,and where the heck is my froyo,tmo rep told mewe'de have it on launch,I need apps2sd,my phone is outta storage,i'm going to curse someone at tmobile out.htc and google should have never let tmobile have any say in this device cause they oveloaded it with bull**** you cant delete,im so friggin angry,I just want control over my phone and nobody can even root it,AGGGHHHHH!!! Sorry just had to get that out.
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all i have to say that is if a Tmo rep told you froyo would be ready when the phone comes out, promptly insert your foot in his a** with EXTREME prejudice!!
Dispite contrary belief, not all T-Mo reps know every single thing that T-mobile is up to. Some of us actualy have a life outside of work. Also, we are not all out to give everyone the shaft. Some of us realy try to help people the best we can. I get chewed out quiet often for going "too far".
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I think you've let it out in everyone of your post in the Slide section.. I'm sure your 14 day return period isn't up. RETURN IT.
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^^^^ this +10
As donepate stated, you are speaking to another human, NOT T-mobile as an object. If that rep heard a rumor online he could have easily passed it along to you. Thats why unless there is OFFICIAL news from T-mobile you should always take information about upcoming releases of updates/phones with a grain of salt. Typically T-mobile employees know about the official launches barely before they launch to avoid any leaked information and or upsets if deadlines aren't met.
If you've read the official HTC comments however you will know that its stated to have FROYO within a number of 2010 Android phones within the year of 2010. That is as specific as it gets however.
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So why are they opening 2 hours early,and where the heck is my froyo,tmo rep told mewe'de have it on launch,I need apps2sd,my phone is outta storage,i'm going to curse someone at tmobile out.htc and google should have never let tmobile have any say in this device cause they oveloaded it with bull**** you cant delete,im so friggin angry,I just want control over my phone and nobody can even root it,AGGGHHHHH!!! Sorry just had to get that out.
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never listen to t-mobile reps they no nothing
Official release date for the slide is the 16th. They have not even told the reps much. It could be lower prices for a day, a giveaway in the stores, or the planets may be comming into alignment. Its all guesses for now. I am fairley sure that its slide related in some way though. Just have no idea what it is. If I get any info i'll pass it along.
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Just in case you really need to know. June 19th is when tmo anounces the slide through commercials and they r having a father's day special event they r going to announce too. Not as big a deal as everyone thinks.
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it is a big deal and it has nothing to do with the slide per se on june 19th we are having free phone day which means you can choose any phone in the store including smart phones for free with new contract or line extension.
vdub804 said:
it is a big deal and it has nothing to do with the slide per se on june 19th we are having free phone day which means you can choose any phone in the store including smart phones for free with new contract or line extension.
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That's cool. I'm glad I just paid $179 for my slide upgrade
sryan1983 said:
That's cool. I'm glad I just paid $179 for my slide upgrade
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Hopefully the buyer's remorse period can be applied to you.
tmobilewinguser said:
never listen to t-mobile reps they no nothing
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I'm glad at least you "no" how to spell.
I believe the buyers remorse period will still be 14 days. That's what I am getting.
I keep reading "Official" release date is the 19th, but I simply walked up to my local store and bought it last week... are you using the term "officially" as a moment to define when they'll "advertise" it...?
They have a soft launch (June 2nd) and a hard launch which, shown to me on the computer from a t-mobile rep, is the 16th not 19th
According to TmoNews.com it's going to be a Father's Day sale with all phones free
They are going to announce the Galaxy S on the 19th. The Galaxy S will go on sale sometime in July ... just got that from a VERY reliable Tmobile source. I'm probably going to be sending the slide back ... my G1 will tide me over till the Galaxy comes around.
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According to TmoNews.com it's going to be a Father's Day sale with all phones free
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Yeah free phone *if* you switch to a family plan.
I just went to the Sprint store (< 20 min ago) to have them look at my EVO to see if the 4G radio was broken, simply because I rarely get a 4G signal, even in places marked 5 bars on Sprint's website. Anyway, the guy there said that the discrepancy was to be fixed by an update (when I asked what kind of update, he would only say: "from HTC") within the next couple of weeks. Supposedly this update will bring 4G performance in line with Sprint's coverage maps. He also said that Sprint Corporate finished training yesterday on the use of 2.2 on the EVO, which he told me was done being developed and soon to be released. He said that "2.2" will also increase WiMax range. When I asked him to confirm that 2.2 meant Froyo, he said yes.
So it appears that WiMax is about to get a huge range boost and Froyo is about to be released.
So it looks like Sprint is stepping up its support for this phone quite a bit. Great news that were not being abandoned until at least 2.2 has been out for a while.
I would not believe a word any sprint store employee says except maybe derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Yeah, unfortunately sprint store employees more often than not, are talking out their arse. I wish we could believe him, but even HTC only said "by Christmas".
froyo for evo in Q4 2010/Q1 2011 if were lucky.
By Christmas only means it will be sometime before Christmas people and even then it was about all of their devices including the Slide
While I don't think we'll get it before Q4, I can see HTC's reasoning behind saying Christmas.
That gives them a big window to release it. If they deliver early, people are stoked. If they fall behind, they have a nice buffer to stay within their promised date.
Better than promising by the end of Q3 and then having a problem crop up and not release until Q4.
People are still listening to in-store employees
I don't know where this Froyo gut is being held, but I think he should be released as soon as possible. If he's being held in N Korea, we should send al Gore to negotiate for his immediate release.
This is inhuman and I hope eveyone will write their congressman.
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I don't know where this Froyo gut is being held, but I think he should be released as soon as possible. If he's being held in N Korea, we should send al Gore to negotiate for his immediate release.
This is inhuman and I hope eveyone will write their congressman.
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*Tumbleweed*
Don't lump all of us Sprint store employees together like that please. There are plenty of us who know exactly what we are talking about. The people making up stuff just to sound important or impress people are not the norm.
I can tell you that we have received no official training or word on 2.2 or Froyo in the stores. The only official word is what has already been said about Christmas from HTC. I wish there was, I really, really do.
I used an early build from darch on my old hero and liked the speed, can't wait for that on the Evo.
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Don't lump all of us Sprint store employees together like that please. There are plenty of us who know exactly what we are talking about. The people making up stuff just to sound important or impress people are not the norm.
I can tell you that we have received no official training or word on 2.2 or Froyo in the stores. The only official word is what has already been said about Christmas from HTC. I wish there was, I really, really do.
I used an early build from darch on my old hero and liked the speed, can't wait for that on the Evo.
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There are always exceptions, don't take it personal
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I would not believe a word any sprint store employee says except maybe derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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this is correct
Not taking it personal. It just gets old hearing the same old crappy about Sprint. I know the company earned the bad rep, but a lot if the people who still cling onto those perceptions haven't tried Sprint in years.
Oh well, it's so much easier to ruin a rep than rebuild an already bad one.
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Not taking it personal. It just gets old hearing the same old crappy about Sprint. I know the company earned the bad rep, but a lot if the people who still cling onto those perceptions haven't tried Sprint in years.
Oh well, it's so much easier to ruin a rep than rebuild an already bad one.
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I'm totally happy with Sprint after stints with ATT and Tmobile. Never tried Verizon.
I will say the Sprint store in Daytona Beach has to be THE worst of the worst. I only go in there to check out a phone on display. That store really does hurt Sprint's reputation in the local market place.
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I'm totally happy with Sprint after stints with ATT and Tmobile. Never tried Verizon.
I will say the Sprint store in Daytona Beach has to be THE worst of the worst. I only go in there to check out a phone on display. That store really does hurt Sprint's reputation in the local market place.
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you should tell sprint corporate that and give suggestions on how to make it better.
I spoke to a representative at Bell, she said that Froyo will be rolling out December 6th through Kies. Don't know if this is posted anywhere else, just thought I'd let you eager Bell users know.
Thanks for the heads up ..if this is true let the countdown begin....
If our Kies doesnt work, we are pretty much screwed for the official bell update >_<
Never trust a Bell agent. I have an audio recording of an other agent which is 100% sure that the update will be out in November. In August, they told me it would be september.
Don't hold your breath on that one. Canada got the vibrant seemingly last. And the rollout for Froyo isn't complete in the other countries that got the I9000 before we did. Id' best guess the soonest isn't until sometime in the first quarter of the new year.
I'm thinking the failure rate after the update is gonna be huge. And Corporate wants their bonuses for a good Christmas season in terms of sales. That's why I'm saying Feb '11, after the Christmas rush & the January warehouse clearance sales.
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Don't hold your breath on that one. Canada got the vibrant seemingly last. And the rollout for Froyo isn't complete in the other countries that got the I9000 before we did. Id' best guess the soonest isn't until sometime in the first quarter of the new year.
I'm thinking the failure rate after the update is gonna be huge. And Corporate wants their bonuses for a good Christmas season in terms of sales. That's why I'm saying Feb '11, after the Christmas rush & the January warehouse clearance sales.
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If what you are saying is true...there is going to be some huge backlash. Especially after the post on facebook on the Samsung page which mentioned Dec 15th.
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Don't hold your breath on that one. Canada got the vibrant seemingly last. And the rollout for Froyo isn't complete in the other countries that got the I9000 before we did. Id' best guess the soonest isn't until sometime in the first quarter of the new year.
I'm thinking the failure rate after the update is gonna be huge. And Corporate wants their bonuses for a good Christmas season in terms of sales. That's why I'm saying Feb '11, after the Christmas rush & the January warehouse clearance sales.
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First, this is pure speculation, even more considering the post made by samsung.
First, the Froyo release is not following the same path as the release of the phone itself (having to wait after the others...) second, pre-release are already available trough test mode in kies, wich means the testing is ongoing pretty good as of now.
As for the bonuses part, in a big corporation like bell, their already given! Bell won't wait on that to give/not give bonus.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... Someone decided to crank up the old rumor mill again.
I bought my phone the day it came out on Aug 6th and have been weeks and sometimes only days away from 2.2 the whole time....
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First, this is pure speculation, even more considering the post made by samsung.
First, the Froyo release is not following the same path as the release of the phone itself (having to wait after the others...) second, pre-release are already available trough test mode in kies, wich means the testing is ongoing pretty good as of now.
As for the bonuses part, in a big corporation like bell, their already given! Bell won't wait on that to give/not give bonus.
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SD card failure is higher for the I9000M than the rest of the international members of this site. I know the polling is unscientific, but it does seem to indicate there may be a problem with releasing Froyo. I still stand on not holding my breath for the 15th.
Bell and Kies
You need to be careful with Bell. On Aug. 19, I got my galaxy and installed kies, as they told me to. I hit the 3 hour window when Samsung put out the corrupted update (according to the Samsung Rep). It trashed my bios. I called Bell and they said, it was my problem because it wasn't their software and they don't recommend anyone use it. When I pointed out I had an internal Bell memo instructing the retailors to tell customers to install it, and how to do it,(I still have it) I was told that was impossible, it wasn't their problem and to call Samsung. Then they hung up.
Needless to say I have not received any help from Samsung either, and the regional Rep won't answer my emails anymore.
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You need to be careful with Bell. On Aug. 19, I got my galaxy and installed kies, as they told me to. I hit the 3 hour window when Samsung put out the corrupted update (according to the Samsung Rep). It trashed my bios. I called Bell and they said, it was my problem because it wasn't their software and they don't recommend anyone use it. When I pointed out I had an internal Bell memo instructing the retailors to tell customers to install it, and how to do it,(I still have it) I was told that was impossible, it wasn't their problem and to call Samsung. Then they hung up.
Needless to say I have not received any help from Samsung either, and the regional Rep won't answer my emails anymore.
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And that's why I purchased the extra warranty coverage. $7 a month but I can run my phone over with my truck and still bring it in.
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I was also told by a bell employee that 2.2 is coming in a few days.
I'm not in Vancouver (ottawa), but this morning no update through Kies.
http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/12/04/canadas-galaxy-s-froyo-updates-start-rolling-out-this-month/
Ya right...I'll believe it when i have it on my phone.
Just called my bell agent and he told me it would really be deploying by mid december. He talked to the samsung rep and they also received a official memo from bell stating mid decem ber. So don't hold your breath for today
Samsung Mobile already said Mid-December on their Facebook page.
Yeah, no dice here... Hopefully on the 15th, its a bit ridiculous really...
I don't see why anyone would get excited about this... BOTH of my Vibrants have died running 2.2. When this update gets released there are going to be a lot of dead vibrants
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I don't see why anyone would get excited about this... BOTH of my Vibrants have died running 2.2. When this update gets released there are going to be a lot of dead vibrants
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you had to hack your vibrant to get it on
that may have caused a problem. I would hope that bell will develop it to work on thier phone without the need to fool the phone and will have had ample testing to make sure it works. at least if it does not work, by putting the new OS using normal means, it will be up to \Bell to fix it.
sorry to hear you had so much trouble
Which companies are not jokes these days!
Why hasn't someone started a cell company who treats their customers properly.....
If you can offer them great service, prices and plans, the company would have it made!
no one would switch, they would tell their friends which would bring more business.
Corporations are a joke these days!!!
All they care about is your money. All people care about is MONEY!
We (the people) need to make choices "together" to be able to control the direction of these corporations.
if we started a movement here in Vancouver, with 1 million strong, we could make change happen.
Who is with me!
So, Based on what I'm noticing, people were expecting a dual core evo 2 for sprints big announcement and instead of was a dual screen kyocera. So whats all this crap about jumping ship to verizon?
You must have not read. Ask yourself this:
Who is Kyocera?
What are they known for?
Why Kyocera?
Why is the phone ugly?
Why are they releasing an already outdated phone when dual cores and other sick hardware is coming out?
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Also ask yourself what this has to do with Evo....
So you are saying you would consider getting one? Lol
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So you are saying you would consider getting one? Lol
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I think he's saying he wouldn't leave sprint over it and anyone who would is probably a little slow.
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Maybe if the echo was the only phone to be released in 2011, id be looking at other carriers.
I think the fact that Sprint called this an "industry first" and generated a huge event/hype has caused many to lose faith in Sprint's choices.
Is it worth leaving over..of course not, but many of us feel embarrassed for a company we have been avidly supporting.
If they had just released this device without claiming it is the "latest and greatest" it would have been different.
Sent from my device.
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I think he's saying he wouldn't leave sprint over it and anyone who would is probably a little slow.
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All you FANBOIFAGS that are crying about sprint's big announcement NOT being the EVO2 are just crying to make yourselves look important and special.
EVERY company has facepalms, and crying about it and saying your leaving said company because of 1 announcement is just proof that you didn't even want to be with the company to begin with and are using the announcement as a scapegoat
I don't know about everyone else, but i don't come to this site to listen to kids cry about how their mommy has cut them off from her nipple and now they have to grow up and not have everything their way.
Neipas09 said:
...an escape goat.
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i Lol'd.
Neipas09 said:
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All you FANBOIFAGS that are crying about sprint's big announcement NOT being the EVO2 are just crying to make yourselves look important and special.
EVERY company has facepalms, and crying about it and saying your leaving said company because of 1 announcement is just proof that you didn't even want to be with the company to begin with and are using the announcement as an escape goat.
I don't know about everyone else, but i don't come to this site to listen to kids cry about how their mommy has cut them off from her nipple and now they have to grow up and not have everything their way.
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If I'm not mistaken, we have the right to have an opinion and a choice to choose what carrier we want to be with. If another company has better service/phones/etc. I think most of us would want to have the best. Big fail for Sprint.
packattack12 said:
If I'm not mistaken, we have the right to have an opinion and a choice to choose what carrier we want to be with. If another company has better service/phones/etc. I think most of us would want to have the best. Big fail for Sprint.
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So 1 bad phone is all it takes for a company like sprint to reach Big Fail status?
WOW....
I would hate to hear what you think about Porsche since every vehicle they have released for the past 20+ years looks pretty much the same.
Neipas09 said:
So 1 bad phone is all it takes for a company like sprint to reach Big Fail status?
WOW....
I would hate to hear what you think about Porsche since every vehicle they have released for the past 20+ years looks pretty much the same.
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I'm not saying that. I'm saying it was a big let down for many of us. I am not going to be switching just because of that or for any reason. Just saying everyone has a right to their opinion and its nuts when people start bashing. And just because people are leaving for Verizon doesn't mean they are going for the iPhone.
The evo is the best phone on the market right now and Sprint did the best thing they could do when they dropped the everything plan. Now all these other carriers want to bite off there plate. That is my opinion Sprint want come out with a evo2 until around summer they know what they are doing.
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The Echo hasn't made me want to switch.. yet; but it's preparing me to.
The EVO is a well featured phone but the CPU/GPU is severely lacking. As a tech head there's no way I can make it through another year with this phone. Right now I can see 1-2 high end WP7 phones and probably another WebOS phone being released in the Spring/Summer. With the amount of hype that Sprint put into this phone I wouldn't be surprised that Sprint thought this was their next EVO. Part of me doesn't want to believe that a major company could be this out of touch, but claiming an industry first and bringing out David Blane leaves me with no other explanation: Sprint is retarded.
So you have at least the Touch Pro 7 (which admittedly looks awesome but it's too early for me to adopt WP7), the Echo (Hell no), and maybe a new WebOS phone (hmm.. maybe, but I depend on Google Apps too heavily) coming out. How many very high end smartphones ($199+) does Sprint come out with a year? Seems to me like Sprint could be more than meeting their usual first half quota with those phones.
I'll wait until June and if nothing interesting comes out, the lack of great Android phones, absolutely horrendous 3G speeds, and decreasing of benefits will probably push me to Verizon. I'd just roam the F out of my phone while downloading Ubuntu over and over again. I carry a iPhone (personal) and Android (business) phones anyway, might as well family up at Verizon.
Bottom line is, I'll follow the development community's lead. That will be my next phone.
Neipas09 said:
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All you FANBOIFAGS that are crying about sprint's big announcement NOT being the EVO2 are just crying to make yourselves look important and special.
EVERY company has facepalms, and crying about it and saying your leaving said company because of 1 announcement is just proof that you didn't even want to be with the company to begin with and are using the announcement as a scapegoat
I don't know about everyone else, but i don't come to this site to listen to kids cry about how their mommy has cut them off from her nipple and now they have to grow up and not have everything their way.
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or could it be many people are getting frustrated with sprint, ok now every phone is going to have 10 dollar add on, yearly upgrades are now gone for alot of people(its the only reason why me and my girl have a joint plan with sprint) the 4g we have well its not that great coverage wise, also to point their handling of what the 10 dollar add on at first was needed for is a face palm.
Then to not show nothing off at CES but have their name as a sponsor everywhere their only to hold an event as industry first, to show off entry level smart phone.
Im not leaving sprint for this I am however this summer when my contract is up this spring
Not really understanding the name calling. If you appreciate having your telco telling you to grab your ankles then by all means.
Consumers vote with their wallets
BrianDigital said:
or could it be many people are getting frustrated with sprint, ok now every phone is going to have 10 dollar add on, yearly upgrades are now gone for alot of people(its the only reason why me and my girl have a joint plan with sprint) the 4g we have well its not that great coverage wise, also to point their handling of what the 10 dollar add on at first was needed for is a face palm.
Then to not show nothing off at CES but have their name as a sponsor everywhere their only to hold an event as industry first, to show off entry level smart phone.
Im not leaving sprint for this I am however this summer when my contract is up this spring
Not really understanding the name calling. If you appreciate having your telco telling you to grab your ankles then by all means.
Consumers vote with their wallets
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Just FYI, if you haven't heard or been living under a rock.....Just go look at what the other carriers are making you do that is far worse than grabbing your ankles. They are just trying to mask it by throwing a few nice phones out there, but that in no way covers up the fact they are continiously raising prices, getting rid of upgrades altogether and now even charging for things that are free on sprint. So its not like sprint is actually doing anything that isn't already being done.
ramiss said:
I think the fact that Sprint called this an "industry first" and generated a huge event/hype has caused many to lose faith in Sprint's choices.
Is it worth leaving over..of course not, but many of us feel embarrassed for a company we have been avidly supporting.
If they had just released this device without claiming it is the "latest and greatest" it would have been different.
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Yeah, I was a bit disappointed at the announcement. But, to be honest, Sprint did state whatever they were going to announce would be an "industry first" - and it was. Would I have booked David Blaine to do it? Hell no.
The HYPE, though, was actually generated by all the media coverage speculating as to what the announcement would be and ALL OF US here and on other forums starting ENDLESS threads about Sprint's announcement, hoping that Sprint would have a killer nuke to kill all the hoopla from the Verizon IPhone and Verizon 4G launch. And this obviously wasn't it.
We do still have CTIA coming up and Sprint has said that they plan to release more 4G devices this year. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they have something more.
As for the Echo, I'm going to reserve my comments as to what it is or isn't until I get my hands on one.
I do hope that Sprint pulls through and makes some better choices.
flipper12 said:
Yeah, I was a bit disappointed at the announcement. But, to be honest, Sprint did state whatever they were going to announce would be an "industry first" - and it was. Would I have booked David Blaine to do it? Hell no.
The HYPE, though, was actually generated by all the media coverage speculating as to what the announcement would be and ALL OF US here and on other forums starting ENDLESS threads about Sprint's announcement, hoping that Sprint would have a killer nuke to kill all the hoopla from the Verizon IPhone and Verizon 4G launch. And this obviously wasn't it.
We do still have CTIA coming up and Sprint has said that they plan to release more 4G devices this year. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they have something more.
As for the Echo, I'm going to reserve my comments as to what it is or isn't until I get my hands on one.
I do hope that Sprint pulls through and makes some better choices.
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+1
I think if the Echo had a dual core, top line graphics chip, plenty of ram, and mention of getting 2.4 on it peeps would be very positive about the announcement. For me it was not the design or manufacturer, but the hardware specs that make it weak. I for sure can think of ways that having 2 screens would be beneficial.
I'm not leaving Sprint over it but I was pretty disappointed by the announcement. There is no tech geek alive that is looking forward to that abomination of a phone. I don't know WHO sprint is marketing this phone for. Business people won't want it, tech geeks won't want it, teens won't want it, and I think the only people who WOULD get it are the people dumb enough to get suckered into it by a Sprint CSR or store rep.
I am a Sprint customer for the awesome value, not because they don't live up to my expectations for a phone on a specific announcement date. People who are considering jumping ship because of this debacle really need to reevaluate their priorities in life.
So, whoever it was on this site claiming to work for Sprint is likely full of it.
He assured people over and over that if your upgrade was before April 1st that you would NOT lose it.
I had an upgrade in March (save 150$). I lost it. All I have now is save 75$ or save 150$ in 273 more days.
Now that T-Mobile is going away, Sprint will likely do more stuff like this.
I bought my evo last year the day it was releqsed (i think june 4th)on contract and it shows Im eligible for the full $150
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i was eligible for an 150$ upgrade in feb, now it shows 75$ and and 150$ in january...i am confused and hope that this asking for a reset thing will work...if not i may leave for T-Mobile when it gets the HTC Pyramid..same as Evo3D just no 3D...
Don't worry buddy all these wireless providers are starting to do shady sh!t like that its pretty sad. When I start my own wireless company called "diggler mobile" ill let you switch your numbers over; My slogan will be "come to the darkside, we have LTE"
On topic though, why would you listen to someone over a forum(not bashing dirtyshroomz ^_^) but wouldn't it have been smarter to call care, or chat with a Rep in store?; people sometimes carry different info man so you really can't point the finger at anyone.
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People new this was coming so why are they *****ing?
from my phone duh
CheesyNutz said:
People new this was coming so why are they *****ing?
from my phone duh
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I got some bad information from someone in a forum. It is obviously a lesson learned. Dirtyshrooms claimed to be a rep and I believed him.. so what. I won't make that mistake again.
So, why are you *****ing about me *****ing anyway?
I was looking at the HTC 3d, but definitely not now. It may be all the better since HTC is locking that crap down anyway =\
T-Mobile is soon to be AT&T so I highly doubt there will be anything there for me... although I am checking into it right now.
lost mine too, I only 120 days out from my contract being done anyways. I bought evo full price and plan to do so with the nexus s, and sell my evo for +150 plus should be like upgrade price anyways.
On a side note I remember reading that android would lower the prices of phones since OEM's would not have to hire software engineers to make their own or license from MS. So when is that going to happen
This statement is no intention of *****ing or trolling
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Why are you *****ing about me *****ing.
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asking question =/= *****ing
BrianDigital said:
lost mine too, I only 120 days out from my contract being done anyways. I bought evo full price and plan to do so with the nexus s, and sell my evo for +150 plus should be like upgrade price anyways.
On a side note I remember reading that android would lower the prices of phones since OEM's would not have to hire software engineers to make their own or license from MS. So when is that going to happen
This statement is no intention of *****ing or trolling
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I was strongly considering the Nexus S myself. I can't pay full price right now tho. I might be able to by the summer.. but the Nexus S will be even more older news than it is now =9
cnstarz said:
asking question =/= *****ing
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Seriously guys, if you aren't talking about anything, GTFO
Nobody cares if you agree or not.
Batman58 said:
Seriously guys, if you aren't talking about anything, GTFO
Nobody cares if you agree or not.
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for instance, your post.
Are you done now? Good
What is this reset I read about? Are people just calling and asking for a reset or is there some kind of deal involved?
CheesyNutz said:
People new this was coming so why are they *****ing?
from my phone duh
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Because it's a bull****, underhanded, bait and switch move. Yeah Sprint is within their contractual "right" to rescind the incentive they offered so many thousands of people, but it's dirty pool man. In retrospect I do believe this was a calculated move to maximize new subscriptions with the EVO then turn around and sell more EVOs before the next big **** comes out.
A csr said to me "but sir, none of our competitors offer yearly upgrades".. Ma'am, none of your competitors offered yearly upgrades WHEN YOU OFFERED IT TO ME IN 2009!!
They have absolutely sent the message to this consumer "We know we're the best deal in town, if you want to go to Big Red or Hell (at&t) please BE OUR GUEST!, and fvck off while you're at it"
Of course I'm not leaving Sprint. IMO they have the best phone (just one, the evo, but I only need one phone) and I admit all this apparent collusion between Sprint and Google is very exciting.
In summary: Sprint, imo you're the best wireless service provide but why you gotta go **** blocking us loyal customers right before the hottest ***** in history hits the street??
That hurts my feelings, and I feel some serious e-blue-balls coming in a few months..
Ultimately I'll probably end up selling plasma (kidding) so I can buy the 3D at full price, but dammit you can't make me be happy about it!!
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So, whoever it was on this site claiming to work for Sprint is likely full of it.
He assured people over and over that if your upgrade was before April 1st that you would NOT lose it.
I had an upgrade in March (save 150$). I lost it. All I have now is save 75$ or save 150$ in 273 more days.
Now that T-Mobile is going away, Sprint will likely do more stuff like this.
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Enjoy your Egyptian phone. Take care now, bye-bye then...
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Just called, FIRST I would like to apologize if dirtyshroomz see's this. I am still eligible for an upgrade so I jumped the gun ALSO to let everyone know, for some reason my line that has $75 dollars off in September is going to be a full upgrade JULY of next year, so its no a full 12 months thought that was pretty cool!
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Blitzpwnage said:
I was told multiple times here by shroomz that I would keep my upgrade....and its not there. Nice company hahaha. Guess I'll just call.
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Yeah that would be the "smarter" thing to do.....lol
I had a webchat with a sprint csr last week, and he said I had a full upgrade eligibility as of 7/1/11. I got my phone on 7/30/10.
On April 1st, i texted upgrade to '1311" and it said the same thing...$150 upgrade on 7/1/11.
Well I just logged onto the Sprint website and now they are saying 5/1/12. I guess no EVO 3D for me. Sprint's ETF are pretty small, so I imagine I'll just break contract and go somewhere else this summer.
Rule of thumb: Don't take the word of a guy who calls himself "DirtyShroomz" as gospel.
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Dirtyshrooms claimed to be a rep and I believed him.. so what. I won't make that mistake again.
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DirtyShroomz does work for Sprint, he's been around for a long time on these forums and he's helped a lot of people out.
Instead of your wild claims about how Dirty ruined your life, why don't you either:
a) PM him and work it out, or
b) at the very least, post a link or at least quote the "bad" information he gave you.
Starting a thread to specifically bash another user (especially one who goes out of his way to use his unique position and experience to help others, OFF the clock for free).... well that's just a low blow, man.
I'm not saying he didn't give you bad info, but I am saying you need to either post the specifics or keep your mouth shut.
dezel29 said:
i was eligible for an 150$ upgrade in feb, now it shows 75$ and and 150$ in january...i am confused and hope that this asking for a reset thing will work...if not i may leave for T-Mobile when it gets the HTC Pyramid..same as Evo3D just no 3D...
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How is T-mobile an improvement?
At least Sprint offers a way to get yearly upgrades...
matt2053 said:
DirtyShroomz does work for Sprint, he's been around for a long time on these forums and he's helped a lot of people out.
Instead of your wild claims about how Dirty ruined your life, why don't you either:
a) PM him and work it out, or
b) at the very least, post a link or at least quote the "bad" information he gave you.
Starting a thread to specifically bash another user (especially one who goes out of his way to use his unique position and experience to help others, OFF the clock for free).... well that's just a low blow, man.
I'm not saying he didn't give you bad info, but I am saying you need to either post the specifics or keep your mouth shut.
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Complete and utterly agree.