Database Users

XOOM in the UK

I have been checking the carphone warehouse site religiously. Everywhere claims they have pre-order, which sure, the page is there, but now button to preorder.
Anyway, I have just noticed today that the "out of stock" has changed to "in-stock" and the "expected early april" has changed to "for delivery mid-april".
This looks hopeful, but I'm the kind that was born without and never learned patience, I really hope I don't have to wait until mid-april.
Still, promising news of us getting it some time soon.
Just to spark some potential conversation, I fully intend to get the 3G version since I think a Wifi tablet is a waste of time, if you can't access the internet on the go, what's the point?
I'm an Android Developer by profession so I use my Tabs and Phones all hours of the day in all manner of places. I can't wait till the London underground gets 3G, I'll take a trip there just to sit on a circular tube line with my XOOM

Hi,
PcWorld still have it for availability on the 9-4-11 for the wifi version so here is hoping, getting feed up of waiting now
Steve

hi there i pre-ordered from carphone warehouse and i received email about the delay this is the email i received :
Your Motorola XOOM pre-order
Hi,
We’re writing to let you know that unfortunately, your Motorola XOOM
pre-order has been slightly delayed.
This is due to a delay in the official launch for Motorola XOOM 3G.
We tried to contact you but had no luck.
We now expect stock to arrive in our warehouse on Saturday 16th April,
for delivery to you on Tuesday 19th April.
We’re sorry for any inconvenience caused.
What can I do now?
You don’t need to do anything – we’ll dispatch your tablet as soon as it
arrives in our warehouse.
Alternatively you can cancel your order by calling us on 0870 870 870.
Thanks for choosing The Carphone Warehouse.

mootfqa2 said:
hi there i pre-ordered from carphone warehouse and i received email about the delay this is the email i received :
Your Motorola XOOM pre-order
Hi,
We’re writing to let you know that unfortunately, your Motorola XOOM
pre-order has been slightly delayed.
This is due to a delay in the official launch for Motorola XOOM 3G.
We tried to contact you but had no luck.
We now expect stock to arrive in our warehouse on Saturday 16th April,
for delivery to you on Tuesday 19th April.
We’re sorry for any inconvenience caused.
What can I do now?
You don’t need to do anything – we’ll dispatch your tablet as soon as it
arrives in our warehouse.
Alternatively you can cancel your order by calling us on 0870 870 870.
Thanks for choosing The Carphone Warehouse.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yikes, that's pretty much the end of April. How did you manage to pre-order? Website has nothing, and I tried the 3 stores in town, not one of them had a clue, half of the staff had never even heard of it.

alias_neo said:
Yikes, that's pretty much the end of April. How did you manage to pre-order? Website has nothing, and I tried the 3 stores in town, not one of them had a clue, half of the staff had never even heard of it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
alias_neo, you can preorder by clicking the ad on the carphone warehouse front page, then 'view deals'.
Now this is where the 'add to basket' didn't show up for me in firefox! It said 'Out of stock - Back order' but there was no means to actually buy. I opened it in IE (yuck) and the 'add to basket' button was there.
I also got the email saying delivery is expected on 19th April

mmcclair said:
alias_neo, you can preorder by clicking the ad on the carphone warehouse front page, then 'view deals'.
Now this is where the 'add to basket' didn't show up for me in firefox! It said 'Out of stock - Back order' but there was no means to actually buy. I opened it in IE (yuck) and the 'add to basket' button was there.
I also got the email saying delivery is expected on 19th April
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ahhh! I'v never used IE a day in my life, no wonder I couldn't find the button, bit of a flaw for Firefox users not to be able to buy it.

I got the Verizon version in the States last week works a treat over here (wifi only ofc) i could not wait for release over here...LOL
Lordao

if indeed they are expecting the XOOM in the mid of april, might as well wait for another few weeks till the google IO where rumours that they will be abnnouncing a similar to Nexus line of tablet. a pure google dev device.
i have pre-ordered mine as well, but tempted to cancel it after i heard that google might come out with a dev tablet.

qwerp_ said:
if indeed they are expecting the XOOM in the mid of april, might as well wait for another few weeks till the google IO where rumours that they will be abnnouncing a similar to Nexus line of tablet. a pure google dev device.
i have pre-ordered mine as well, but tempted to cancel it after i heard that google might come out with a dev tablet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No point, the XOOM is as good as a dev tablet. It's a comes with Google device so no mods, it will get the updates.
Unless something that can prove it's better comes out within a couple of weeks I'll be getting this for my development and general entertainment, I just don't have the patience to keep waiting.

alias_neo said:
No point, the XOOM is as good as a dev tablet. It's a comes with Google device so no mods, it will get the updates.
Unless something that can prove it's better comes out within a couple of weeks I'll be getting this for my development and general entertainment, I just don't have the patience to keep waiting.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it will get the updates, but most likely from either modders/hackers or officially from motorola. not from google.
look at it as a Motorola Droid, the first experience device for android.
not quite a dev device.
i was hoping it to be something like the the t-mobile G1, or the HTC magic where they make it a official dev device... but again, i might be wrong.
just another point. can't seems to find any information or download link of 99b3b5f5dcde.signed-trygon-HRI66-from-HRI39.00b3b5f5.zip that comes from google.
the file that floats around just seems to be the cached one.

Engadget
qwerp_ said:
it will get the updates, but most likely from either modders/hackers or officially from motorola. not from google.
look at it as a Motorola Droid, the first experience device for android.
not quite a dev device.
i was hoping it to be something like the the t-mobile G1, or the HTC magic where they make it a official dev device... but again, i might be wrong.
just another point. can't seems to find any information or download link of 99b3b5f5dcde.signed-trygon-HRI66-from-HRI39.00b3b5f5.zip that comes from google.
the file that floats around just seems to be the cached one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did the Droid have a locked bootloader?
I just saw this on Engadget: HERE
That the XOOM will finally be launched here in the UK next week. I swear, if they only release the Wifi version next week XOOM is going bye-bye and I'm spending the cash on a box of Cohiba Esplendido. I just don't have this kind of patience.
Any the rumour mongering alongside the negative user reviews is starting to put me off the device. I'm an Android dev in my day job, I want a dev device, not another Galaxy Tab like I'm stuck with now.

qwerp_ said:
if indeed they are expecting the XOOM in the mid of april, might as well wait for another few weeks till the google IO where rumours that they will be abnnouncing a similar to Nexus line of tablet. a pure google dev device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How likely is this? I'm interested for the same reason I got my N1, updates from Google directly rather than via a 3rd party. The Xoom is the tablet version of the Droid imho.

I cannot wait next week to cam! BUT! Something is holding me back, just from my experience the first product from manufacture is always suffer from bad design….. I think I will wait Samsung 10.1….. grrr I’m confused

um, release date is Friday not Thurs ?

I remember specifically on Engadget and now when Google numerous sites say June 16th. But yet now I'm hearing the 17th ? Which is pretty bananas as I took off Thursday working a double Friday.

I've always heard it was the 17th, on Friday.

Here is the press release from samsung.com.
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/newsRead.do?news_seq=19862&page=1&gltype=localnews
"Premium Android Honeycomb Tablet with Ultra-slim, Lightweight Design and Brilliant 10-inch Touchscreen Available Exclusively at Best Buy Union Square Store in New York City Starting June 8; Available Nationwide Starting June 17"
Though maybe you could get lucky and find a retailer that starts selling early?
PS. Maybe online retailers will start shipping on the 16th so that it could arrive at customers homes by the 17th?

jamaicansolja said:
I remember specifically on Engadget and now when Google numerous sites say June 16th. But yet now I'm hearing the 17th ? Which is pretty gay as I took off Thursday working a double Friday.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where did you see/hear 16th?

Idk I'm not retarded I feel that way. But if you even Google Samsung 10.1 June 16th many sites say its the release date. Honestly I have been tabletless for over a month waiting if retailers sell out Friday while I work a double I'm gonna have to get a f***king Xoom

UKseagull said:
Where did you see/hear 16th?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
oN Engadget the day it was released in NYC on the eighth. Its hard to find exact URL I'm using my cell

No worries, I hadn't heard anything about the 16th until you mentioned it. The sooner the better, depending on price though.

no it's been the 17th. i just hope that samsung doesn't pull another fast one and make it a release for New Jersey only now, and push the "official" release again another week

radiohead14 said:
no it's been the 17th. i just hope that samsung doesn't pull another fast one and make it a release for New Jersey only now, and push the "official" release again another week
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
(With Extreme Sarcasm) What on earth would make you think a company would ever try to do something like that??
I mean gosh that would be like telling everybody the update for your phone you made is coming soon then releasing it six months later.
Or like vague references to Dual Application Processor and then start using the actual brand name a few days before launch.
Or like telling everyone your tablet you make is launching on a specific date only to launch in one store that date and pushing back the full launch one week
Or like telling everyone that folks in your one store launch can only have one specific model after they lined up after hearing about your one store launch two-step move.....
Or like showing an MicroSD card slot on your tablet at every conference and uTube video only to launch without one and require a non existant cellular radio version purchase to *possibly* have a MicroSD card slot.
(And I preordered a Galaxy Tab. I guess Samsung is to me what a abusive white trash husband is to his spouse. Beat me as you may, I will always come back....)

MrSewerPickle said:
(With Extreme Sarcasm) blah blah blah
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Meh. The only **** move Sammy pulled was not disclosing that the NY pre-sale was limited to the white 16GB model. None of the other stuff is unusual, let alone worthy of whining.

Can we expect the device to be instore on 17th ?

jamaicansolja said:
Idk I'm not retarded I feel that way. But if you even Google Samsung 10.1 June 16th many sites say its the release date. Honestly I have been tabletless for over a month waiting if retailers sell out Friday while I work a double I'm gonna have to get a f***king Xoom
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I advise you not to resort to such drastic measures. I owned a xoom. Trust me breddren, you don't want to do that.

Berner said:
Meh. The only **** move Sammy pulled was not disclosing that the NY pre-sale was limited to the white 16GB model. None of the other stuff is unusual, let alone worthy of whining.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah so not funny to you at all, got it.......

Has anyone heard of other b&m's other than bb that will have it on the 17th?

RickyMaxX said:
I advise you not to resort to such drastic measures. I owned a xoom. Trust me breddren, you don't want to do that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
huh ? I've owned 2 Xooms. The Xoom is an incredible device. Beats this in almost all specs minus form factor and weight. I'm buying this solely on its size.

jamaicansolja said:
huh ? I've owned 2 Xooms. The Xoom is an incredible device. Beats this in almost all specs minus form factor and weight. I'm buying this solely on its size.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The screen is a big ball player as well...and the Xoom is definately lacking in that position.

Continue with your life.. relax its almost weekend and fathers day is coming

The Xoom-VA-Panel is not bad... its good, but it doesnt kill!!!

[Q] When again

Anyone knows when our beloved N4 will be available again? Any official statement besides it is sold out? Surely I am not the only did not put my order through :crying:
rumor round up, Nov 15
1, some suggest to check in on Friday, confirmed by google + and some T Mo stores
2, google backorder mail suggests to give your F5 a 3-week vacation
3, email from google support says "soon" but do not know how soon
Nov 16
1, For those who want to order from Negri (http://negrielectronics.com/lg-e960-nexus-4-16gb-unlocked-black.html#.UKYW7IdQS3E), there is a coupon code you can use: 10offsite will take $10 off. Cheers!
2, reported by some threads: today several lucky ones were told that their phones are on the way as we speak, after receiving BO mail yesterday.
3, no word on when it will be available again for the rest of us...keep waiting
4, got a word from google support that the N4 will be in stock and the price will NOT be changed. This is to respond to some rumors saying play store will not sell it for a while, so the local electronic stores (not ebay) in different countries can gain some, because some will be forced to pay higher price. Certainly hope google keeps the promise to sell us N4 soon.
5, rumor has it that India will receive N4 on Nov 30. This might suggest when the 2nd wave comes!
Nov 18
New rumor: the 2nd batch comes in a few days!
Note again, it is just a rumor from a blog: Nexus 4…weeks away? “Days” according to Play Support

No one knows. Hell, we didn't even know when the thing went on sale yesterday. It was just a feeding frenzy!

No

No.
Edit: I managed to order a 16gb 1 minute after it became available here, but I really feel bad for you, man. On the bright side, early adopters are gonna get screwed with a lot of issues. Sorry, man. Hopefully it becomes available soon.

google play store plays us
maybe then we can just decide to sleep when we are tired and not to refresh the website any chance we get.

is this the official statement from google?
from google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Nexus/posts/Bxd3fySCe28
"in coming weeks"

freeintruth said:
from google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Nexus/posts/Bxd3fySCe28
"in coming weeks"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I refuse to believe this.

UltimateGoblin said:
I refuse to believe this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Quite possible if you think, that industry is currently scrambling to produce enough stock for Christmas and will be mostly idling afterwards. So google could use it to produce more N4s.

I just hope there will be plenty of stock eventually instead of all this selling out nonsense.
I was online and had the opportunity to buy the 8GB version but i was confused, i looked at the 16GB version and still said "Coming Soon" so i thought it hadn't gone on sale yet, little did i realise it had already been and gone :laugh:
So while i was waiting the 8GB version sold out too, gutted.

Might be reading too much into the Google+ Post but:
There’s been so much interest for the Nexus lineup that we’ve sold out of some of our initial stock in a few countries!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

draugaz said:
Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Quite possible if you think, that industry is currently scrambling to produce enough stock for Christmas and will be mostly idling afterwards. So google could use it to produce more N4s.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I feel like Google would probably rather have it come out before the holidays than after lol...
I'll bet next restock will be either this month or next.

Probably somewhere near the end of December I think
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

draugaz said:
Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If they sell the second batch in mid-january, this means making everyone wait 2 months.
2 months is a lot, especially if you have no guarantee that in 2 months' time stocks will be enough for everybody.
The problem with phones is that they age very quickly, and the sooner people get them, the more they are likely to keep them.
I, to conclude, really hope that we will see a second sale next week. Even if stock is going to be, if possible, even lower, it doesn't matter: angry people will stay angry, but we will have some more "lucky ones" which will have a new phone.
But this is just my opinion.

fatjivi said:
Probably somewhere near the end of December I think
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
NGF Community :good:
Found you here as well..Whats up man

I've heard everything from them coming out this Thursday/Friday, all the way up to in one more month.
Spoke to a CSR today and they -of course- cant give out any days because they don't even know. "Being a guesser" the CSR said, "i would guess that it [a new batch of Nexus 4's] could come out the 21 to the 23 of the month ,that way they would be ready for Black Friday" he kept going, "but then again, it could take them until December, that's just my opinion. It all depends what the marketing team wants to do."

UltimateGoblin said:
If they sell the second batch in mid-january, this means making everyone wait 2 months.
2 months is a lot, especially if you have no guarantee that in 2 months' time stocks will be enough for everybody.
The problem with phones is that they age very quickly, and the sooner people get them, the more they are likely to keep them.
I, to conclude, really hope that we will see a second sale next week. Even if stock is going to be, if possible, even lower, it doesn't matter: angry people will stay angry, but we will have some more "lucky ones" which will have a new phone.
But this is just my opinion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We get anywhere near mid-end of Jan and im passing, you've nailed it with the "tech moves too fast".
No way this will be the best hardware on the market at that point, only selling point is its a Nexus, which despite me being a fan wont swey my decision.
Stret

I just want ask to google, why the hell are so many Nexus 4 being sold on ebay, if i can't buy one in playstore?????

I unfortunately missed being able to buy N4
I imagine Google will have more stock in before Christmas, or they would lose out on quite a bit of $$.
I've heard they are supposed to have more in by Friday 8am (GMT)(or midnight PST) however cannot confirm this.
Sent from my LT26i using xda app-developers app

A fortnight at least

I am sure they have to do before international launch which is I guess is 29th or 30th by LG.

Anyone else rather disappointed at how Google handled the release?

I find it quite unprofessional to have people pre order a device in September and have them arrive 2 months later. How can you announce your best phone ever (for both companies) and be so woefully prepared for the demand it might incur? I'm having second thoughts on getting the phone since I have no idea when I might receive mine since Google and Huawei have yet to get their act together in rolling out the product

Have you tried buying any previous nexus? By far the best release yet!
Doesn't your pre-order have a date? That would be the latest you would have your unit shipped.

No, I'm OK with it.

Yep, best by far. Especially after being involved with the 4, 5 and 6 failed launches!

This is my favorite so far. No issues thus far.

Best handling it this way rather than having people refresh the page every second because product went out of stock within 2 minutes of release.(previous nexus releases)

Very happy.
Order date: Sep 29, 2015 1:05:16 PM CDT Estimated delivery date: November 10 – 12, 2015.
Phone will be delivered to me tomorrow.

Ordering process yes. However... Shipping order is jacked up AGAIN. Ordered 9/29 within 15 min of link going live. 32GB Graphite. There are people with tracking information that purchased 10/21 and have shipping confimation while mine sits in processing purgatory. Card was final charged 3 days ago. Still hasn't gone anywhere. This happens to me every year.

Almost as bad as a Best Buy launch ....

I don't mind this release style at all. I really don't see what OP concern is. Google has turned a 'quickest to order before servers crash' to 'just order and be patient, we won't charge you'
Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk

Disappointment? That would imply I had expectations which conflict with what was promised. I have no such expectations.
In the announcement event, they simply said "later in October" concerning ship dates. During the preorder process, everything was clearly spelled out. How could I be disappointed? My only expectation is that the products I ordered will arrive safely by the time they indicated.

I'm pleased with the order process this time around. As for delays well that is common on pre orders these days. I'm just happy that I got to order, much better than trying to catch a one or two minute in stock window like in the past.

Disappointed, nah. one of the biggest tech company in world can't handle preorder. How the hell do you sell out preorder? Just take the damn order and give a 4-5 weeks eta. Don't tell me you can't get huawei to make your phones in 5 weeks.

I'm rather disappointed that Germany was not a part of the countries that could preorder it first. I simply don't get it...

It's a pain yes. But it happens this way every year. I'm just surprised they haven't fixed it much over the years. I'm waiting on a Frost 64GB - No one has gotten a Frost yet, so we'll see if the ship date is hit, Nov 2.

http://gizmodo.com/if-you-ordered-a-nexus-6p-and-it-hasn-t-shown-up-good-1739119538
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Like previous people have mentioned. Most (if not all) of the Nexus launches were pretty terrible.
I wasn't expecting much so no .. not disappointed.

I ordered, was given an estimated ship date and it has shipped early. I call that a success.

abraxo said:
I find it quite unprofessional to have people pre order a device in September and have them arrive 2 months later. How can you announce your best phone ever (for both companies) and be so woefully prepared for the demand it might incur? I'm having second thoughts on getting the phone since I have no idea when I might receive mine since Google and Huawei have yet to get their act together in rolling out the product
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You do realise that these were pre-orders, right? This is exactly how the concept of a pre-order works.

Dissapointed, yes. The roll out in the US might be not that bad. But there are other countries besides US. In Europe we are still waiting to preorder. Such a slow rollout. Google needs to learn from Apple and bring their **** together and roll out the devices from day one.

EE UK

Ordered mine just now from EE, bye bye Huawei.
Went with the 128GB as I barely use 50GB on my Huawei.
Unlimited 5G with the Galaxy Active 2 watch also on LTE.
£79+£14 pm.
No upfront cost, all in black.
Watch comes tomorrow, phone on the 13th apparently..
I didn't even want 12GB as it'll just use more battery for no reason, 8GB is the sweet spot, but I'm excited about getting the device. Hopefully the exynos can bring a smile to my face, it's been a while since I had a Sammy.

12GB won’t use more battery... all about future proofing.
My S20 Ultra 512GB arrives Monday

* * * Thread Cleaned * * *
Please remember to be respectful when posting.
Rude, disrespectful comments will be deleted.
If it continues, the accounts related to the comments will be reviewed for restriction or removal, so please let it stop here.
Thanks for everyone's cooperation.

Az Biker said:
* * * Thread Cleaned * * *
Please remember to be respectful when posting.
Rude, disrespectful comments will be deleted.
If it continues, the accounts related to the comments will be reviewed for restriction or removal, so please let it stop here.
Thanks for everyone's cooperation.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol I missed it all, what happened? Haha
The rage from some people in crazy.

bomp306 said:
12GB won’t use more battery... all about future proofing.
My S20 Ultra 512GB arrives Monday
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tbh 12GB over 8GB will use more exactly the same as 16GB will use more than 12. It's the nature of hardware.
Tbh 5000MAh sounds like if should be enough I think.
I think both will be superb.

dladz said:
Ordered mine just now from EE, bye bye Huawei.
Went with the 128GB as I barely use 50GB on my Huawei.
Unlimited 5G with the Galaxy Active 2 watch also on LTE.
£79+£14 pm.
No upfront cost, all in black.
Watch comes tomorrow, phone on the 13th apparently..
I didn't even want 12GB as it'll just use more battery for no reason, 8GB is the sweet spot, but I'm excited about getting the device. Hopefully the exynos can bring a smile to my face, it's been a while since I had a Sammy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I ordered a couple of weeks ago and was told the 13th (also black 128gb). The order tracker now says 24-26th March

Scottland said:
I ordered a couple of weeks ago and was told the 13th (also black 128gb). The order tracker now says 24-26th March
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's crazy, I was told by EE today that it almost certainly will be the 13th which I believe is a Friday
I'm thinking they'll send it on the 16th and I'll have it on the 17th.
Who did you order from?

I've been in touch with their Twitter rep who (claims he) checked stock intake plans and identified there is an established queue. I am on it and will get mine 24th-26th as per my order page. People ordering today will get it on 31st March.
Essentially, your estimated delivery date is accurate. If it says 10th March, you got in early enough to be in the first batch, if not, you are in a later batch.

3Shirts said:
I've been in touch with their Twitter rep who (claims he) checked stock intake plans and identified there is an established queue. I am on it and will get mine 24th-26th as per my order page. People ordering today will get it on 31st March.
Essentially, your estimated delivery date is accurate. If it says 10th March, you got in early enough to be in the first batch, if not, you are in a later batch.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea that would make sense

3Shirts said:
I've been in touch with their Twitter rep who (claims he) checked stock intake plans and identified there is an established queue. I am on it and will get mine 24th-26th as per my order page. People ordering today will get it on 31st March.
Essentially, your estimated delivery date is accurate. If it says 10th March, you got in early enough to be in the first batch, if not, you are in a later batch.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for that, is a shame as I would have obviously preferred to have it in the first batch. Maybe I would have got in the first batch if they didn't have issues processing the payment which meant I had to call up after the weekend to sort it out

Scottland said:
Thanks for that, is a shame as I would have obviously preferred to have it in the first batch. Maybe I would have got in the first batch if they didn't have issues processing the payment which meant I had to call up after the weekend to sort it out
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tbh missing the first batch may have been a blessing in disguise, often the first ones released have the most bugs, whether it be hardware or software.
Silver linings

Yeah, plus it gives them time to patch these camera issues we're reading about. At last we can make a decision about returning based on the "fixed" firmware rather than risking running out the return period waiting for an update.

3Shirts said:
Yeah, plus it gives them time to patch these camera issues we're reading about. At last we can make a decision about returning based on the "fixed" firmware rather than risking running out the return period waiting for an update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea absolutely, tbh I've took a chance on so many devices, most of them HTC but some oddballs like the Sony Z1, great phone, awful modding community, same with the note 4, Evo 3D, great camera; unable to patch over to Cyanogenmod, bought that bugger and it was listed as SIM free for £556 which was then the highest priced smartphone of the time, 3 months later it was listed as £155 (this was the beginning of the end for HTC, they never recovered, such a shame, HTC did so much right for Android as a platform)
Even the S3 I bought was a risk, but it paid off, stellar device.
I think if Samsung are going to focus on the Exynos device ( which If what I've heard is true. They won't!
Reason I say this is because this is apparently the last exynos, not even the South Koreans are using it, for the first time)
I hope that Samsung allow updates to the exynos device drivers similar to the SD via the play store.
For me so long as the exynos can run the windwaker on dolphin then I'll be happy as it'll be on pay with the 855 from the SD range.
As for the battery, I have a unique set of apps and a great habit and track record of making a device last a long time and show the best SOT times I've ever seen.
Oneplus 5 - 14 hours 47 minutes over 2 days on 1 charge
P20 pro - 17 hours 30 minutes over 2.5 days on 1 charge
So I think if I set the device up right, I believe I'm going to break 20 hours, also before you think I am reading books or something, the app list is shown on the OnePlus forum.

Its delayed on Vodafone for 2 weeks too after release on 13th [emoji20]

kmaximax said:
Its delayed on Vodafone for 2 weeks too after release on 13th [emoji20]
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not delayed. The problem is there are no stock to fulfill the demand for the Ultra. No one has been pre ordering the 20 plus or 20 really.

Have to say if they don't fulfill their promise to me about the 13th I'll be cancelling both this and the watch.

dladz said:
Have to say if they don't fulfill their promise to me about the 13th I'll be cancelling both this and the watch.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
mate when delivery was due if we ordered it on February 16th, have you got any news, i was told the delivery will be on 10 of march im with Virgin

alleshi said:
mate when delivery was due if we ordered it on February 16th, have you got any news, i was told the delivery will be on 10 of march im with Virgin
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not with virgin lad.. no idea, EE advised it would be the 13th. If it's not then I'm cancelling. Going to try the oppo V2 pro

Just got off the phone to EE as I got the active 2 watch with cellular WITH the phone and seeing as I have the watch and not the phone I was worried that id end up with a watch I couldn't use with my current phone, p20 pro.
The chap from EE clarified that I will definitely get the phone on launch, march 13th as I ordered on the 3rd..
So I'm quietly happy now, just hope they don't mess me about.
My advice if you're unsure, tell them that if there's a level of uncertainty that it won't be there on the day that's you've been promised then you'll cancel it if it doesn't show up.
With EE, they told me that my order status will update on the day before to say it's been allocated.

so noone got the phone yet so far, just as i said they are lying. I was told tomorrow but yet no email from Virgin