Hey guys,
I was just wondering. When this AlphaRev thing is released, and I set my Wildfire S-OFF, will I be able to use SIM card from any carrier? Right now I'm able to use SIM card from only one carrier.
Thanks.
grifo07 said:
Hey guys,
I was just wondering. When this AlphaRev thing is released, and I set my Wildfire S-OFF, will I be able to use SIM card from any carrier? Right now I'm able to use SIM card from only one carrier.
Thanks.
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Nope.
+tenchars, etc...
im not 100% sure but i can use any sim card after getting s-off from xtc clip so it should happen
The xtc clip produces a Gold card that unlocks the carrier-locked phone, the alpharevx produces only an s-off, meaning that you can install custom roms, recovery, permanent root etc.
XTC Clip does both S-OFF and SIM unlock while AlphaRev does ONLY S-OFF.
Is there a difference between sim unlock and carrier unlock.
Of course i don't need it, but just asking to know....
AFAIK, There's no difference between carrier unlock and sim unlock..
One more thing i think u can unlock carrier using debranding method given in this forum. That means downgrading/changing region of current ROM. Its not that much difficult. It requires gold card i think. There's one easy method let me try to explain it.
1. Follow all steps in changing ROM region/debranding/downgrading.
Eg- If u've France or India or any regional ROM downgrading it to WWE Rom.
2.IMP- Here's the trick to unlock the carrier:
Follow steps on downgrading till editing the mtd0 with HxD or Hex editor.
In that u may find something like HT_031 or something it depends on region, change that to 000000 that called super cid.
After changing changes to mtd from above and the downgrading guide follow the guide as usual.
I hope this may help you to unlock carrier. I dont know but u may try it.
No. Debranding and SIM unlock are NOT the same thing.
Debranding (for example, by goldcard) removes network operator customisations by installing generic software, but you still cannot use a SIM card from another network.
SIM unlock can be only done using special methods as of now (XTC Clip, any third party mobile phone shop) and it enables you to use whichever SIM card you want, but you can keep your branding if you like (ROM doesn't have to match the operator, AFAIK)
When you are in hboot, you can see the option "sim lock". Is it trough that your phone becomes sim locked (and unlocked)? And if yes, is it something we can manage ourselfs? It would be a great security for the phone against thieves
Thank you in advance!
Erwin
According to jkoljo in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1014046
It does not do anything unless you have just the correct files in your SD card that define the network and so on. Only service centers and network providers have such files. So you are fine, nothing bad happened.
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Which means the option does nothing unless you have carrier-specific files on your SD card. Files which carriers use to sim-lock the device I presume.
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It's my first post here. Done a lot of reading but still couldn't find the answer to this.
I got a sim locked T-Mobile Wing from T-Mobile. Still waiting for the unlock code. This could take a long time for my case. Should I wait until I get the code and unlock the Wing before flashing ROM??? I am very eager to play with the custom ROM's a lot of people are using.... If I do it now, will it cause problem later when I try to sim unlock???
Flash The Phone Before Sim Unlock I Ran Into That Problem B4
ilikepu said:
Flash The Phone Before Sim Unlock I Ran Into That Problem B4
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What problem did you have? I thought if you do Sim Unlock first, there shoudn't be any problem. I am just worried about if I flash the phone first, the unlock code I will get from T-Mobile later might not work. Can anyone comment on this? Thanks.
i sim unlocked then flashed
the unlock code is stored in the phone operating system not on the sim card
but dont worry the phone will always recogize the unlock code every time u flash it. it never changes unless you hack your imei
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sim unlocked the flashed
but dont worry the phone will always recogize the unlock code it never changes unless you hack your imei
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So I don't have to unlock now and can go ahead to upgrade ROM and then unlock later with the new ROM? Just want to confirm. Thanks.
jrey said:
So I don't have to unlock now and can go ahead to upgrade ROM and then unlock later with the new ROM? Just want to confirm. Thanks.
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yes you can flash before sim unlock. I have a wing and its not sim unlocked and I can flash and go back to stock with no problems.
ilikepu said:
i sim unlocked then flashed
the unlock code is stored in the phone operating system not on the sim card
but dont worry the phone will always recogize the unlock code every time u flash it. it never changes unless you hack your imei
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that doesn't make sense.. everytime you flash your flashing a new operating system. theres no way the sim unlock code is part of the operating system.
It Probably Makes More Sense To Me
Basically With The Unlock Code Your Unlocking The Phone Not The Sim Card So It Is Saved To The Phone When You Flash The Phone You Erase Everything On The Phone
This is exactly why I am reluctant to flash it now since I have not unlocked the phone yet.
I know that, with some other phones like motorola, even if you have unlocked the phone, but if you flash with a wrong stock, you can lock it again and it is very difficult to unlock later...
Can anybody else share their experiences about the Wing?
If you follow this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358225 you can unlock your phone without worrying about the code from T-mo. You will be able to flash any ROM you choose. Just follow it to the letter. Worked great for me.
My main reason to flash was because of all the memory the stock ROM sucked. You'll be amazed by the chefs in the forum.
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the unlock code is stored in the phone operating system not on the sim card
but dont worry the phone will always recogize the unlock code every time u flash it. it never changes unless you hack your imei
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The unlock is not in the phone's operating system... its in the phone hardware. I think many will get confused if you are telling them its in the OS since you flash the OS when you flash the ROM.
Everyone should know that the IMEI is hardware based like the MAC address of the phone. To change the IMEI would not only break US law's but would void you from unlocking it from a service provider. Flashing a ROM will not change the IMEI.
Hi,
I'm thinking of buying this phone but I can't find the answer to my question (I did search...)
I need this device unlocked (i.e. simfree).
I've read somewhere that s=off means simfree, is that right?
anyone here got experience with unlocking this device and using it with sim cards other that Tmobile
thanks...
Here's an answer.
"S=OFF" just makes the boot blocks and kernel partition writeable.
"Radio S=OFF" unlocks the phone. Other terms for this you might find include "SIM Unlock".
"Super CID" allows ROMs from other carriers.
Here's a thread specific to this phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
(You can also just purchase an unlocked phone. They're available, from T-Mobile and other vendors, here's one example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875502068.)
jggimi said:
"Radio S=OFF" unlocks the phone. Other terms for this you might find include "SIM Unlock"
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Those are different things as well. Radio S=OFF changes the radio to pass the security=off flag to the bootloader, as an alternative to flashing a bootloader where s-off is hard coded. It's just one step earlier in the boot process.
SIM Unlock is a different setting, though gfree from the thread jggimi linked can do all of those things.
Thanks for the clarification!
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Can anyone help me?
Yesterday I installed VISONary R14 and ran Temproot then Permroot. with the view to flashing a ROM today.
After charging the phone today I now have "No SIM card in phone" message. I have changed the contract sim I have to a PAYG and still have the same message.
The phone is locked/Branded to Orange UK and happens with the abouve 2 orange sims.
Has running VISONary caused the problem? Can I revert back to anything?
Android - 2.2
Baseband 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M
Kernel - 2.6.32.21-gf3f553d
Build - 1.40.61.2 CL284185
Software - 1.40.61.2
Browser WebKit 3.1
If anyone can help I would be very grateful
The issue is not caused by Visionary. Please test in some other phone that your SIM card works. Make sure that you put it to your phone carefully, and it goes in the right way.
It might be network lock problem, you could try the SimUnlock feature in my Radio S-OFF tool.
jkoljo said:
The issue is not caused by Visionary. Please test in some other phone that your SIM card works. Make sure that you put it to your phone carefully, and it goes in the right way.
It might be network lock problem, you could try the SimUnlock feature in my Radio S-OFF tool.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I have tried both sims in other phones and they work ok. Put them in the DHD and I get the error about no sim.
Okay. If you are absolutely sure that you have inserted the SIM into your DHD correctly, the only thing left to try is SimUnlock. If you do not want to do that, you have to send your device to a HTC service center.
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Okay. If you are absolutely sure that you have inserted the SIM into your DHD correctly, the only thing left to try is SimUnlock. If you do not want to do that, you have to send your device to a HTC service center.
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Yes its contact side down and cut off to the right. I've just had a look at your SimUnlock and its .exe which I can't run on a mac.
I don't mind doing it but is there a mac alternative?
Cheers
The easiest way is to get a Windows PC. There is no GUI tool for MAC, you will have to use command line.
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The easiest way is to get a Windows PC. There is no GUI tool for MAC, you will have to use command line.
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Thanks, if it does need to go back do you know how to remove the Visonary+ app thats installed?
Use Visionary's unroot option, remove Visionary as you would remove any other app and reboot your phone.
Changing a sim card would most likely not work on the Orange phone as its locked to that network. $20 if u want it unlocked from Orange. Just a bit of side info for you
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jordanprudent said:
Changing a sim card would most likely not work on the Orange phone as its locked to that network. $20 if u want it unlocked from Orange. Just a bit of side info for you
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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He said that he tried two Orange SIM cards. And my Radio S-OFF Tool's SimUnlock feature does exactly the same as Orange's 20$ unlock, but for free.
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He said that he tried two Orange SIM cards. And my Radio S-OFF Tool's SimUnlock feature does exactly the same as Orange's 20$ unlock, but for free.
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Must have been a faulty phone as the new one works perfectly
Now as a newbie I have the big question of to root or not to root
I think that my phone is bricked. After rooting my DHD my phone is completely dead it can not charge battery and appears like there are no battery inside. I can not turn it on. Does anybody haev this problem also??????
Hello
If I install a stock rom on rooted/sim unlocked phone via gfree, would I lose the sim unlock?
I understand I will get the S-On back, I am more concerned about Sim Unlock.
Thanks.
I believe so. Your flashing a complete stock image, which restores everything to stock. If you do go thought with it, im pretty sure you can call tmobile to get the unlock code.
From my fist, to your face! Enjoy!
If you install a stock ROM on gfree-unlocked phone, you'll remain S-OFF. No amount of flashing will restore S-ON, since gfree modifies the flag itself, which is not rewritten by ROMs. You can lock it back by using gfree, if you want, but - and here's your second answer - SIM will be unlocked forever, no matter what you do. Some people on this forum tested it and arrived to this conclusion.
I am in this situation right now. I have a HTC Panache, which is S-OFF (using JGobeil's method, which I believe you helped devised a lot). I am planning on giving the phone to my girlfriend and get another one, thus transferring my SIM card into the new phone and having her get a new SIM.
Will that be a problem with my rooted phone? Will I be able to keep my phone rooted and have the SIM card installed and working without hiccups?
Thanks!
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I am in this situation right now. I have a HTC Panache, which is S-OFF (using JGobeil's method, which I believe you helped devised a lot). I am planning on giving the phone to my girlfriend and get another one, thus transferring my SIM card into the new phone and having her get a new SIM.
Will that be a problem with my rooted phone? Will I be able to keep my phone rooted and have the SIM card installed and working without hiccups?
Thanks!
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Of cause yes man! They will no any problems for root! How a sim card change root.lol
Hi everyone,
I have a 2nd M7 that is an AT&T variant.
I just ran an TMO RUU on it, works great.
Here's what I've done:
1. S-Off (used sunshine on hboot 1.57, original firmware and ROM were 5.12.502.2, AT&T).
2. Changed MID from AT&T to TMO using this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490792
3. Changed CID from CWS_001 to T-MOB010
4. Ran the TMO RUU (7.18.531.2) from here: http://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html
Optimizing apps as we speak
OP did you carrier unlock your phone?
No, they said I need to get it from HTC, and provided a number to call.
Late last night the SIM was no longer detected, so I'm going to look into that 1st. This phone was just returned to me from HTC, for repairing the purple-tint camera issue.
I reverted the MID and CID, ran the AT&T RUU, still SIM is not detected, so I'm not sure what is wrong... maybe HTC gave me a bad phone (it's not what I originally sent to them for repair).
shpitz461 said:
No, they said I need to get it from HTC, and provided a number to call.
Late last night the SIM was no longer detected, so I'm going to look into that 1st. This phone was just returned to me from HTC, for repairing the purple-tint camera issue.
I reverted the MID and CID, ran the AT&T RUU, still SIM is not detected, so I'm not sure what is wrong... maybe HTC gave me a bad phone (it's not what I originally sent to them for repair).
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Was the sim card detected while you were on the AT&T software (before you ran the t-mobile ruu)? Also why didn't you just SuperCID instead of altering the CID since you were already s-off?
Yes, it came with 5.12.501 AT&T firmware, and SIM was detected, but I only tried it once. I then went to SOFF and upgrade, and after upgrade realized it was not detecting the SIM again.
SuperCID still won't allow you to apply RUU belonging to a different model. CID allows you to manually flash different firmwares.
I still didn't get to the bottom of this, so it also could be that HTC sent me back a defective phone... I will play with it some more tonight and see if I can figure anything out.
They did return the phone back to me w/o the SIM tray, maybe it needs a little cleaning, who knows...
They still have my 2nd phone (which is TMO variant), waiting on 'parts' according to their support.
Unbelievable, I removed the SIM tray, sprayed some compressed air inside, saw some dust coming out, now it's all good.
Trying to get HTC/TMO to unlock the SIM for me.
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SuperCID still won't allow you to apply RUU belonging to a different model. CID allows you to manually flash different firmwares.
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I'm pretty sure that with SuperCID you're able flash any RUU without changing the MID. Meaning if you have an AT&T M7 phone you can flash a T-mobile M7 RUU. Since the SuperCID unlocks the security check just like s-off. The problem is that there is a possibility that flashing a different carrier RUU might "brick" your phone.
scotty1223 said:
If you use a java card and diag file,the mid is changed. If you want to run different ruus without changing the mid and cid to correct versions,all you need to do is supercid (11111111). There is no need to change the mid,super cid eliminates the carrier and model id checks.
Id use caution howerver,as there were a couple unexplained bricks of evita and Ville when folks OTAed to ics with supercid.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56819727&postcount=111
I see. I did try in the past and gotten an error, but maybe I didn't do something right...
Anyway, I've done the conversion again, and all is good now.
Trying to get TMO to send me a SIM unlock code. Going to install Viper on it.
Got a reply from TMO that since the phone is an AT&T variant, they can't unlock it.
I used this instead, worked like a charm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53043418&postcount=601
Amazing!
phone_dude said:
I'm pretty sure that with SuperCID you're able flash any RUU without changing the MID. Meaning if you have an AT&T M7 phone you can flash a T-mobile M7 RUU. Since the SuperCID unlocks the security check just like s-off. The problem is that there is a possibility that flashing a different carrier RUU might "brick" your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56819727&postcount=111
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Previous phones this was true. These days,however,you must change to a compatible MID,even with supercid.
Supercid by itself is of little value,imo. In order to have complete freedom,you'd also need to "supermid" to eliminate the mid check(PN71**** iirc for m7).
I personally prefer to change the cid and MID to the correct values when doing a conversion.
Also note that converting att variant to t mobile is NOT giving you access to any extra bands. i.e., you're not going to get old school 4g on the 1700 band outside of refarmed areas. You really are better off with a t mobile phone.
Sent from my HTC One