Hey,
So, I checked out both Swiftdroid 2.0 M6 and Joestone's AOSP Gingerbread 2.3.2. I've always noted that even though both these ROMs are noticeably faster, they still lagged while switching apps or when multiple apps at the same time when compared to the stock 2.1.
When I was playing around with Advanced Task Killer, I was surprised to find out that the native 2.1 has around 80-90MB of free RAM after you kill all appslisted by default in Advanced Task Killer. When you try the same thing in Swiftdroid, it gives only 40MB of RAM. And, Joestone's version gives only 60MB.
This is another proof that benchmarks are not everything. Real life performance is difference from benchmark scores.
Is there's a way to increase the free RAM?
I saw a 2.2 ROM which had around 110MB free RAM. But, it was the only one. No other choices. I tried odexing Joe's gingerbread but it didn't give the boost I wanted.
Perhaps Mur4ik can create another modified KDZ? Is it possible to reallocate the NAND chip such that there's more RAM?
Am curious. When you increase SWAP too much, the phone becomes sluggish. Why do you guys try to push the swap to SD while you can create it in internal memory which has better access speeds?
Update
Solutions:
You can try,
Odexing the ROM for more free RAM
Editing the minfree using Auto Memory Manager
SuperChargerv6 Script to modify minfree and apply some more tweaks.
You can use Autostarts to prevent unused widgets from updating and prevent unnecassary apps from starting automatically
You can use swap. Slightly slow but a great alternative
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nibras_reeza said:
Hey,
So, I checked out both Swiftdroid 2.0 M6 and Joestone's AOSP Gingerbread 2.3.2. I've always noted that even though both these ROMs are noticeably faster, they still lagged while switching apps or when multiple apps at the same time when compared to the stock 2.1.
When I was playing around with Advanced Task Killer, I was surprised to find out that the native 2.1 has around 80-90MB of free RAM after you kill all appslisted by default in Advanced Task Killer. When you try the same thing in Swiftdroid, it gives only 40MB of RAM. And, Joestone's version gives only 60MB.
This is another proof that benchmarks are not everything. Real life performance is difference from benchmark scores.
Is there's a way to increase the free RAM?
I saw a 2.2 ROM which had around 110MB free RAM. But, it was the only one. No other choices. I tried odexing Joe's gingerbread but it didn't give the boost I wanted.
Perhaps Mur4ik can create another modified KDZ? Is it possible to reallocate the NAND chip such that there's more RAM?
Am curious. When you increase SWAP too much, the phone becomes sluggish. Why do you guys try to push the swap to SD while you can create it in internal memory which has better access speeds?
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Try to clean Dalvik Cache in the Clockwork recovery section...
Remember to hit the thank bottom
I fully agree more ram more zipaligning more compression = better rom 2.6.29 is stable m6 is good if m7 keeps same kernel and keeps these thing's in mind we will all be happy
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Also any system utilities etc with mem leaks if we tweak it all I'd be more than happy with the final product
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Try to clean Dalvik Cache in the Clockwork recovery section...
Remember to hit the thank bottom
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I hit the thank button. lol
Is the Dalvik cache an issue in 2.3? Isn't it like cleared on every reboot due to JIT?
@danzano: true. it doesn't mean we should expect mur4ik to do everything. =)
Exactly if I knew how I'd help but for now I give pointers and ask people to help mur4ik but I'm reading heaps and should be developing soon
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Danzano said:
Exactly if I knew how I'd help but for now I give pointers and ask people to help mur4ik but I'm reading heaps and should be developing soon
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That's exactly why I've been trying to reduce RAM usage. xD
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Try to clean Dalvik Cache in the Clockwork recovery section...
Remember to hit the thank bottom
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It was like you said. I got upto 80MB free in Advanced Task Killer after clearing the dalvik cache.
I like to upload an odexed version for recovery but my internet is slow and would take around 4 hours for an upload(assuming the upload doesn't break). So, instead, I'll put together the scripts I used for odexing and instructions to odex by tonight.
Maybe it's because swiftdroid (or any others 2.1+ rom) keeps some apps unkillable. Maybe like home launcher, messaging, dialer, etc can't be close using task killer. Don't know for sure though, I don't have problems switching apps.
N remember, u don't need task killer in 2.1+ roms, well except for gaming when u need all the horse power and for kill "naughty" apps which I prefer to kill via running service.
And no, u can't put swap in nand (internal storage) because it's irreplaceable and the highly usage of it because of swap can reduce its lifetime. As far as I know, gt540 has different chip for ram which has to be more durable than the nand
Do cmiiw!
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If it uses a different chip then how big is that separate chip are we using all it's potential?
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Maybe it's because swiftdroid (or any others 2.1+ rom) keeps some apps unkillable. Maybe like home launcher, messaging, dialer, etc can't be close using task killer. Don't know for sure though, I don't have problems switching apps.
N remember, u don't need task killer in 2.1+ roms, well except for gaming when u need all the horse power and for kill "naughty" apps which I prefer to kill via running service.
And no, u can't put swap in nand (internal storage) because it's irreplaceable and the highly usage of it because of swap can reduce its lifetime. As far as I know, gt540 has different chip for ram which has to be more durable than the nand
Do cmiiw!
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I know that we don't need a Task Killer even in pre-2.1. Android's memory management is pretty good. But, sometimes, the phone acts dumb trying to be smarter than us. xD
I used Task Killer as a measure to see how much memory I could get with default settings. Advanced Task Killer ignores Launcher, core, phone etc by default.
Putting swap on internal shouldn't shorten its life that much. Usually, the internal NAND is pretty good. They usually have the quality of RAM rather than that of SD. And, both the RAM and ROM are NAND. NAND is an architecture. It basically uses NAND transistors.
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If it uses a different chip then how big is that separate chip are we using all it's potential?
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I guess it's 256MB of which 167MB is useable. The rest goes to hardware drivers etc.
A simple fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124034
Just one word - SWAP
SWAP is a bit slow for me. After odexing, I'm not having problems anymore.
Thanks for the great work though.
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How do you set up swap from what I've read there's several different ways what's best?
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How do you set up swap from what I've read there's several different ways what's best?
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here's i think it's the best way:
create swap partition in ur sdcard. best way (for me) is to create it via recovery (cwm). dont forget to backup ur sdcard first.
then type in cmd (or terminal emulator):
Code:
adb shell (or su if in terminal emulator)
echo "#!/system/bin/sh" >> /data/local/userinit.sh
echo "swapon /dev/block/mmcblk0p3" >> /data/local/userinit.sh
chmod 0755 /data/local/userinit.sh
mmcblk0p3 means the swap partition is in 3rd partition (fat partition, ext, and then swap, if u dont have swap (fat then swap partition only) use mmcblk0p2
reboot, then type "free" in terminal emulator.
u can use swapper though (by making swap partition first, then configured swapper to use it), the advantage is u can configure the swappiness (number of file that goes to swap), but for me, swapper taking some amount of ram, and i think it's not good.
Is it possible to give mybe little more simplified instructions think I stuffed it up so did a wipe and going to try again also mur4iks custom kdz rom the partition one is it best to install that first? Or will swap be fine without it
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Use swapper 2 from market. Use mini partition tool to create a swap partition in your SD. Search around. You'll find plenty of resources. SWAP would not modify system. Only the SD. It is not a matter which ROM as long as they support swap. If you are on swiftdroid, toto settings > cyanogenmod settings > performance.
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Is it possible to give mybe little more simplified instructions think I stuffed it up so did a wipe and going to try again also mur4iks custom kdz rom the partition one is it best to install that first? Or will swap be fine without it
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I'm currently on m6 o/c ill start installing swap etc now
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Last week I applied the ryanza one click lag fix and it worked well until I installed the update....my phone started to slow down again so I decided to re apply it...but now it won't let me remove the lagfix...but it says there is no lagfix installed...can anyone help me figure this out?
Simply go the the "available" section in the OCLF program and you should see the option to undo the lag fix for the version you have. For some reason, the main screen only shown the option to undo the newest version of the lagfix, which indicate that undo is not available if you have an older version of the lag fix.
The undo option is unavailable...so I can't undo it
Click restore boot animation then give it a try
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Most likely your battery level is to low. If you click on the undo option it will tell you if your batterly level is to low. Needs over 40% I believe.
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The problem is with the playlogo1 file after the factory reset . Click Restore Boot Animation then uninstall lagfix and reinstall lagfix .
Same Here.
Installed JI5 and rooted with OCLF
LagFix V2.1+ and Undo are both red and unavailable.
Same for V1+
Restore boot animation & un/reinstall OCLF did not change it.
If I try to click OneClickLagFix V2.1+ is says not enough free space in /data and to free up space.
But I have plenty of free space on phone and SD
These are the step that worked for me . If this doesn't work I would try to contact the dev.
1. Click restore boot animation
2. Reboot
3. Undo lagfix (not uninstall oclf)
4. Reboot
5. Install lagfix
I dont know if the reboots are necessary but its what worked for me.
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As fearless said: The undo option is unavailable...so I can't undo it
Same for me. Can't undo since the undo option is red and unavailable.
But also cant run the lagfix because that option is also red and unavailable.
so is there a Senior Member who can shed any light on this issue?
Are you sure that the lagfix is still there? When you mean "update," what kind of update did you do?
Get Quadrant Benchmark from the market and run it. What is your score? Is it averaging around ~800 or ~2000+?
Check your SD card for apps. What is the size?
.. This is why RyanZA's OCLF isn't good, it possibly corrupts data and I'm not a fan of one click because it was very easy to do in the first place and I would rather feel more confident in manually doing it.
Ok....there was an update to the OCLF in the market and i downloaded and installed it.....the only major thing i've done to it after that is flashed to I9000 boot animation....heres a list of everything thats listed as UNAVAILABLE in the main screen:
Root Device 2.1
Install EXT2 Tools
OneClickLagFix V2.1+
Undo OneCLickLagFix V2+
Install Font
Repair/Clean LagFix
OneClickLagFix V1+
Undo OneClickLagFix V1+
If i try to re-apply the LagFix it tell me theres not enough space in /data...but if i try to undo it says it does not appear to be one installed(playlogos1 greater than 5kb)....i just want my vibrant to be fast....can u help me?
Answer the questions I listed above. I don't use OCLF and I don't like One-Clicks unless its a vital step like rooting but rooting for the Vibrant is just so simple its not worth one clicking.
Sorry...the Quadrant Benchmark is 890
My SD card has 12.53 GB free
fearless1964 said:
Sorry...the Quadrant Benchmark is 890
My SD card has 12.53 GB free
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Looks like your lagfix isn't there. When I meant sd card I meant to the bottom: Application Storage. With RyanZA if its applied, it should be <800 MB; otherwise it will be 1.5GB+ (results may vary based on the amount of apps you have installed)
With RyanZA fully working, it should be giving you benchmarks of 2000+ but these benchmarks don't actually reflect on the phone's performance and doesn't mean anything. The only known lagfix that works (in my own opinion) is VooDoo. Easily able to remove as well.
What kind of ROM are you running? I would go into Clockwork Recovery and attempt a nandroid backup, if the lagfix is there then the backup will take forever. If not, it should be completed within 2-4 minutes whereas if lagfix is present, nandroid will back up that as well.
zephiK said:
Looks like your lagfix isn't there. When I meant sd card I meant to the bottom: Application Storage. With RyanZA if its applied, it should be <800 MB; otherwise it will be 1.5GB+ (results may vary based on the amount of apps you have installed)
With RyanZA fully working, it should be giving you benchmarks of 2000+ but these benchmarks don't actually reflect on the phone's performance and doesn't mean anything. The only known lagfix that works (in my own opinion) is VooDoo. Easily able to remove as well.
What kind of ROM are you running? I would go into Clockwork Recovery and attempt a nandroid backup, if the lagfix is there then the backup will take forever. If not, it should be completed within 2-4 minutes whereas if lagfix is present, nandroid will back up that as well.
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the ROM is stock.....but i'll try the VooDoo lagfix....can u give me a link?
fearless1964 said:
sorry....im stilll tryin to get used to Android....so since you say my lagfix is not there....what kind of lagfix do you recommend?
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Voodoo lagfix, it goes VERY well with the OC/UV kernel for improved battery life. What is your application storage size as of right now? I would believe that the lagfix is not present anymore. OCLF should be giving you 2000+ benchmark results if its properly working. Getting a score of ~800 is no-lagfix and is the score for stock Vibrant without any of those tweaks.
zephiK said:
Voodoo lagfix, it goes VERY well with the OC/UV kernel for improved battery life. What is your application storage size as of right now? I would believe that the lagfix is not present anymore. OCLF should be giving you 2000+ benchmark results if its properly working. Getting a score of ~800 is no-lagfix and is the score for stock Vibrant without any of those tweaks.
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cool ill try VooDoo......and the app storage available space is 835MB
fearless1964 said:
cool ill try VooDoo......and the app storage available space is 835MB
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Hmph, do you have a lot of applications installed? The lagfix could possibly be present but not properly working. What I would personally do is
A) Backup your applications using Titanium Backup
B) Flash a new ROM (Check Dev section and find something that you'd like)
C) Check application storage; everything should be good
--- if not then, Odin back to stock and re-partition using Odin (search on XDA for the tools) then flash ROM, etc.
(or vice versa)
I'm off to get some sleep.. I hope this helps.
What the 'OCLF' does is create a virtual ext2 partition using your application storage so it significantly lowers the amount of space in your application storage. Voodoo does the same but it is not as significant + it is in a ext4 format and blah blah blah.. its basically more safe and doesnt corrupt data.
zephiK said:
Hmph, do you have a lot of applications installed? The lagfix could possibly be present but not properly working. What I would personally do is
A) Backup your applications using Titanium Backup
B) Flash a new ROM (Check Dev section and find something that you'd like)
C) Check application storage; everything should be good
--- if not then, Odin back to stock and re-partition using Odin (search on XDA for the tools) then flash ROM, etc.
(or vice versa)
I'm off to get some sleep.. I hope this helps.
What the 'OCLF' does is create a virtual ext2 partition using your application storage so it significantly lowers the amount of space in your application storage. Voodoo does the same but it is not as significant + it is in a ext4 format and blah blah blah.. its basically more safe and doesnt corrupt data.
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thanks...i'll try this in the morning....will post back with results
why I always have phone process memory 20 to 30 MB free.. though i use task killer within 5 min it from 60 MB it goes to 20 MB please help my phone always slows down.
This is on my Xperia X8
At first there is no need to use task killer apps since the android software is smart enough to do this job on its own, from my experience only thing you get from task killers is to drain your battery faster...
On topic now, what rom you have on your phone now? Stock Rom or some custom? you tried to install app2SD so that you be able to move apps in SD? Have you uninstalled any factory apps that you dont need?
In my phone that is running Stock Rom atm. i uninstalled more than 10 factory apps and managed to have free memory +-100 MB
in any case check these threads so that you know what you need
For App2SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895071
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880387
Apps that can be removed Safely without having problem after (ofcourse if YOU dont need them)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890718
wildjohn said:
At first there is no need to use task killer apps since the android software is smart enough to do this job on its own, from my experience only thing you get from task killers is to drain your battery faster...
On topic now, what rom you have on your phone now? Stock Rom or some custom? you tried to install app2SD so that you be able to move apps in SD? Have you uninstalled any factory apps that you dont need?
In my phone that is running Stock Rom atm. i uninstalled more than 10 factory apps and managed to have free memory +-100 MB
in any case check these threads so that you know what you need
For App2SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895071
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880387
Apps that can be removed Safely without having problem after (ofcourse if YOU dont need them)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890718
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Err dude..i think OP ask about free Memory or in other words RAM not storage..try watchdog..able to set blacklist for an app..which mean if u want that app only used 10% of ur ram..and if the app used 11%..watchdog will kill it automatically
+ 1 for kecil ...or it can be increased with task killer apps.find it on the market
i will try this..thanks for ur help.
but still it was help full...i am using stock rom & app 2 sd but i scare to do this. ..
i have some question
1)which is fully working custom rom ?
2) how can i go back to stock rom
3) app 2sd will it affect my app performance?
& thanks for ur reply
wildjohn said:
At first there is no need to use task killer apps since the android software is smart enough to do this job on its own.
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Download autoruns, run it and then your opinion about how smart android is will change.
Task killer is a must have app from my point of view.
sidd6800 said:
but still it was help full...i am using stock rom & app 2 sd but i scare to do this. ..
i have some question
1)which is fully working custom rom ?
2) how can i go back to stock rom
3) app 2sd will it affect my app performance?
& thanks for ur reply
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1. if you talk about FULLY, its still bugs on customs. but the less bugs is MiniCM
2. back up your system using xrecovery before you apply custom ROM, then you will be able to restore it later
3. no effect, it just remain on your SD
So I'm confused; what is the correct order to start upgrading your Huawei u8800? Which is the thing to start with? From what i gathered, the first thing is to do a backup and the best way to do it is with Clockworkmod, but when i check CWM page here on XDA, it says root requiered. Ultimate Guide to Huawei U8800 says that i can root the phone with Super Boot, so should i just go with that and worry about backup later? What if i screw my phone up and don't have a backup? Then is the part of selecting a proper ROM, and i think that i'm interested in the most stable one, so wich one i should go with (oh, and a circular battery with a presentage would be nice) custom or just a firmware update? And the Re-Partition mentioned in MoDaCos Ultimate Guide to Huawei U8800, does it also require a root?
Sorry for the n00b questions, but well, i am one.
I would recommend upgrading to stock ROMs first, but in order to install a custom ROM, you need both root and recovery mod. These 2 functions are being are done from the "shadow" memory, using 2 img files (boot.img and recovery.img).
To access that memory and replace the 2 files follow these steps:
1) Download the boot file and rename it to boot.img ( should be "boot.u8800-modaco-superboot-r1") from here:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...nd-then-some-for-the-huawei-u8800-ideos-x5/om here the zip file (rename if not called that recovery.img).
2) Download and extract the recovery file (extract.zip) from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14870348
3) Turn off your phone and unplug the usb cable. Make sure you have enough battery (at least 50%).
2) Turn on your phone, holding VOL+, VOL- and POWER (should come up with pink screen, to indicate access to shadow memory)
3) Connect the usb cable and the driver should install (don't worry if it says drivers not found, the partition called "image" should still be accessible)
4) Browse your phone to find the folder with boot.img and recovery.img. Copy these 2 files somewhere on your computer, to create a backup of the original files. Now, replace both files with the ones you've downloaded.
5) Remove the battery from the phone to exit "shadow" memory.
To access the recovery mod, press VOL+ and Power, while the phone is off.
I hope this helps...
It does help, thanks! The rooting AND the recovery installation are done simultaneously. But i still have few conserns. Does this all work backwards? I mean in the case of hardware breakage - if i am giving the phone back to maintenance - can i just re-replace the original boot.img and recovery.img and thus "unroot" the phone? Previously recovering backupped data? Is the phone then as it were before whole prosidure?
Vk_ said:
It does help, thanks! The rooting AND the recovery installation are done simultaneously. But i still have few conserns. Does this all work backwards? I mean in the case of hardware breakage - if i am giving the phone back to maintenance - can i just re-replace the original boot.img and recovery.img and thus "unroot" the phone? Previously recovering backupped data? Is the phone then as it were before whole prosidure?
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Yes, replacing all things you done with stock will by default revert it to normal.
Right. One more thing, though this is a bit beside the subject. The re-partitioning, when upgraded from 600mb to 1.2G, does this actually add space for running apps or gives only more installation space?
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Vk_ said:
Right. One more thing, though this is a bit beside the subject. The re-partitioning, when upgraded from 600mb to 1.2G, does this actually add space for running apps or gives only more installation space?
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Yes it gives both actual space for installation. Running apps will always be loaded into ram and swap.
So RAM is its own thing and separate from (ROM?) the increasable space? But what is the actual gain IN increasing it? More apps in the phone? But I've read that the phone gets all cluttered and buggy, if its full of apps. Is this the gain in re-partitioning?
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Vk_ said:
So RAM is its own thing and separate from (ROM?) the increasable space? But what is the actual gain IN increasing it? More apps in the phone? But I've read that the phone gets all cluttered and buggy, if its full of apps. Is this the gain in re-partitioning?
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Where have you read that?
The thing is huawei included a external storage(build in SD card) which had the size of 2GB, and internal storage at 600MB, with geno's partition flash you just change the partitions, the 600MB becomes external storage, and the 2GB(1.2GB data) becomes internal storage. So we gain rather than lose storage. So I have used it for now quite and not experienced any problem.
Please link me up on where you found out this cluttered and buggy thing with this ok?
I think that I accidentally misled you on this. It was some SGS(maybe) thread that I read sometime ago. The talk was about phone being laggy and probable cause that it was full of apps. So I kinda gathered that if any android phone is stuffed full of applications, it gets slow. But I guess I am wrong?
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Vk_ said:
I think that I accidentally misled you on this. It was some SGS(maybe) thread that I read sometime ago. The talk was about phone being laggy and probable cause that it was full of apps. So I kinda gathered that if any android phone is stuffed full of applications, it gets slow. But I guess I am wrong?
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Aha, well if the phone gets sluggish is because swap and ram is being used and less free for other processes. You could make it similar to any OS. I have tried once with this phone filled it up had 6mb left wasn't sluggish at.
So if I have still 389mb phone memory left free, re-partitioning isn't really acute procedure for me?
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Vk_ said:
So if I have still 389mb phone memory left free, re-partitioning isn't really acute procedure for me?
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The partition thing will work independently, only thing it does is formatting the external storage(2GB) and then moves all your data on to the 2GB internal SD and that's it. You can do this if you feel like you need lots of space for apps ok?
Yes, I understand. And since I still have lots of free space left, I think I save this for later. Thanks for explaining this to me. Oh jeah, what custom ROM would you recommend? Preferably one that has all its bugs smoothed out?
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This ROM seems to be stable and very fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059753
Vk_ said:
Yes, I understand. And since I still have lots of free space left, I think I save this for later. Thanks for explaining this to me. Oh jeah, what custom ROM would you recommend? Preferably one that has all its bugs smoothed out?
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Uhm, I am really uncertain about this fact. It seems like phones from different regions have different problems with ROMs.
I would say like this, take a tour , visit different roms out and try out them for yourself and see which one suits your needs and such things.
What I use
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...rom-for-the-huawei-u8800-with-online-kitchen/
I am using this because I seem to have problems with other roms out nowdays. Might be only me
Other ones...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147103
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059753
Try out and see for yourself, that's the best thing you can do !
Hope it helps !
Thanks for the help. Wanna Google+ invite?
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Vk_ said:
Thanks for the help. Wanna Google+ invite?
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Thanks, but no thanks
I am happy with forums and iirc.
The n00b question parade continues.
I applied new boot.img and new recovery.img and updated to B160 ROM (for now). So far so good. But its the Superuser that I can't figure out. I can't seem to make it do anything..
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The n00b question parade continues.
I applied new boot.img and new recovery.img and updated to B160 ROM (for now). So far so good. But its the Superuser that I can't figure out. I can't seem to make it do anything..
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Well, the superuser application is there for applications who require root access to make changes and such thing, so if you were to use SetCPU, noAds or Titanium Backup, they will require access from superuser(root). So don't worry, it works but you need something that demands root access to see anything happen !
And yet more questions. Is there a way to upgrade the touch screen? I mean to up the number of simultaneous touches from two to more?
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I would like to know the solution for memory always decreases, causing the performance of the phone became very slow, even if not in use.
I use ZDBox and periodically do a "kill all", but seems to have no effect.
Your advice is greatly appreciated
Memory Decreases
aghozalish said:
I would like to know the solution for memory always decreases, causing the performance of the phone became very slow, even if not in use.
I use ZDBox and periodically do a "kill all", but seems to have no effect.
Your advice is greatly appreciated
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It seems that your SD Card(Internal/External/Both) is infected with viruses. Please virus scan with a renowned antivirus program (Quick Heal Recommended). I hope this will solve your problem.
mihirjoe said:
It seems that your SD Card(Internal/External/Both) is infected with viruses. Please virus scan with a renowned antivirus program (Quick Heal Recommended). I hope this will solve your problem.
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no that does not work,
apparantly you have no knowledge in linux based systems,
there are no known infectious android viruses yet,
there are such thing as rootkits and adware but all they do is steal info and make you click things,
as for the OP,
your system seems to be loaded with apps,
try uninstalling apps,
sometimes apps run in the background without you knowing it causing strain to the CPU thus making the phone lag
deathnotice01 said:
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as for the OP,
your system seems to be loaded with apps,
try uninstalling apps,
sometimes apps run in the background without you knowing it causing strain to the CPU thus making the phone lag
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I am not sure, but I only use stock rom with litle change in system/app
like install walkman.apk , dspmanager.apk
BTW, I lossed my phone.apk eventhough I installed it
would you like to advise me about it ?
thank u
aghozalish said:
I am not sure, but I only use stock rom with litle change in system/app
like install walkman.apk , dspmanager.apk
BTW, I lossed my phone.apk eventhough I installed it
would you like to advise me about it ?
thank u
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hmm,
there seems to be a issue with your rom,
just try and reflashing to stock again and see if it will return to normal usage,
stock rom without modification actually has about 130mb memory usage
install autorun manager pro
need root .use it and block proccess you do wont
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try flashing a new kernel. it worked for me.
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As death notice said Reflash ROM it would help and dont let un useful apps to run in background amd sync too
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Hi
I found the rootcause why my ram still decreases
These are the app on background : catfiz , whatsapp , smartkeyboard , line , calengoo
Should I uninstall it ?
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I've been wondering something.
Ive been a android fan for awhile, and previous phones have had less than desirable space left for apps. so ive always used link2sd with great effect.
What I am wondering now is (because I now have plenty internal storage on my s4) is, would I gain any performance boost by continuing to utilize link2sd for my apps?
Or would I benefit more by not bothering? Are there any benchmarks to support yay or nay?
My cards a class10 32g card... and I know the s4 supports ext4.
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kevp75 said:
I've been wondering something.
Ive been a android fan for awhile, and previous phones have had less than desirable space left for apps. so ive always used link2sd with great effect.
What I am wondering now is (because I now have plenty internal storage on my s4) is, would I gain any performance boost by continuing to utilize link2sd for my apps?
Or would I benefit more by not bothering? Are there any benchmarks to support yay or nay?
My cards a class10 32g card... and I know the s4 supports ext4.
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As far as performance goes by using link2sd... maybe a little during app loading, but not enough to notice. Are you rooted? The best app i have ever seen period for performance adjusting is Android Tuner. The paid version offers just about every possible tool to adjust every possible aspect of the rom. You should at least give it a glance. I boosted the crap out of my phone with that app alone.
Good benchmarking app is "AnTuTu"
megamanDJ said:
As far as performance goes by using link2sd... maybe a little during app loading, but not enough to notice. Are you rooted? The best app i have ever seen period for performance adjusting is Android Tuner. The paid version offers just about every possible tool to adjust every possible aspect of the rom. You should at least give it a glance. I boosted the crap out of my phone with that app alone.
Good benchmarking app is "AnTuTu"
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yeah tried link2sd... and swapper... neither did a thing
I'll check out that AT
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kevp75 said:
yeah tried link2sd... and swapper... neither did a thing
I'll check out that AT
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Link2sd and similar apps are really only for adjusting storage space. Performance modding lies in Android Tuner and other like apps... AT is a beast of an app though. You can get the link2sd function through it and ramp up the cpu. Try freezing as much bloatware as you can and tune up your build.prop settings as a start to get better performance with the app
megamanDJ said:
Link2sd and similar apps are really only for adjusting storage space. Performance modding lies in Android Tuner and other like apps... AT is a beast of an app though. You can get the link2sd function through it and ramp up the cpu. Try freezing as much bloatware as you can and tune up your build.prop settings as a start to get better performance with the app
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lookin into it now just hope I dont create a paperweight LOL
bloatwares already gone... thank u Titanium Gone so far as freezing the TouchWiz Launchers without issue
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kevp75 said:
lookin into it now just hope I dont create a paperweight LOL
bloatwares already gone... thank u Titanium Gone so far as freezing the TouchWiz Launchers without issue
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You should be OK as long as you freeze instead of uninstalling the system apps. Or at least make backups of them in case you need to get an OTA update. If you are missing system files then it makes getting upgrades a pain in the butt. I assume you have a custom recovery too? Everything is easily reversible that you do on AT. The only issue I ever had was when i tried to have certain CPU settings apply themselves with init.d without kernel support. All I had to do was flash the disabler in recovery that you can create in the app.
For good performance setting you can try this: set CPU gov to interactive, use most of the presets available for the build.prop menu, set a bigger I/O cache with "deadline" scheduler in the SD menu, set a more aggressive OOM preset, and increase entropy as high as you can. All of these while setting them to apply on boot. There is a lot to discover in that app so have fun and make backups!
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You should be OK as long as you freeze instead of uninstalling the system apps. Or at least make backups of them in case you need to get an OTA update. If you are missing system files then it makes getting upgrades a pain in the butt. I assume you have a custom recovery too? Everything is easily reversible that you do on AT. The only issue I ever had was when i tried to have certain CPU settings apply themselves with init.d without kernel support. All I had to do was flash the disabler in recovery that you can create in the app.
For good performance setting you can try this: set CPU gov to interactive, use most of the presets available for the build.prop menu, set a bigger I/O cache with "deadline" scheduler in the SD menu, set a more aggressive OOM preset, and increase entropy as high as you can. All of these while setting them to apply on boot. There is a lot to discover in that app so have fun and make backups!
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yeah Ill b doing most of these tomorrow im on the rom in my sig... which unfortunately does not allow safestrap to mount /system so im unable to do a nandroid.... but i did just finish a titanium bacup so at least if I do bork... Ill still have my apps
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kevp75 said:
yeah Ill b doing most of these tomorrow im on the rom in my sig... which unfortunately does not allow safestrap to mount /system so im unable to do a nandroid.... but i did just finish a titanium bacup so at least if I do bork... Ill still have my apps
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I found something weird. I assume it's AT... but not really sure. I'm using Aviate Launcher, and what I noticed that after AT did it's "cleaning" some of the shortcuts to a few apps would dissappear... always the same apps (minecraft, xda, etc...)
Would you happen to know how I can prevent this? I had it set to clean and optimize all apps/databases and trim partitions.
kevp75 said:
I found something weird. I assume it's AT... but not really sure. I'm using Aviate Launcher, and what I noticed that after AT did it's "cleaning" some of the shortcuts to a few apps would dissappear... always the same apps (minecraft, xda, etc...)
Would you happen to know how I can prevent this? I had it set to clean and optimize all apps/databases and trim partitions.
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It happens after the cleaning process? Right after boot complete? You can check to see if it is AT by disabling the boot scheduler in device manager, and then a few minutes after the phone boots up manually run the cleaning process to see if its happening when it does it.
Also, when i had shortcuts disappear on me it was because I had them moved to or from the device or ext sd card. Some apps need to be installed to internal storage for them to work right. You should never move any apps to the system storage that weren't already there. That's different from internal storage, which is the same as internal SD. The system partition is where the pre installed apps reside (and bloatware). If you can find the system app in the play store then you can most likely, safely, move it elsewhere. Try to change where the missing shortcut apps are stored. AT is zip-aligning apps when it does its optimizations to make them load faster and give you a more organized file system.
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It happens after the cleaning process? Right after boot complete? You can check to see if it is AT by disabling the boot scheduler in device manager, and then a few minutes after the phone boots up manually run the cleaning process to see if its happening when it does it.
Also, when i had shortcuts disappear on me it was because I had them moved to or from the device or ext sd card. Some apps need to be installed to internal storage for them to work right. You should never move any apps to the system storage that weren't already there. That's different from internal storage, which is the same as internal SD. The system partition is where the pre installed apps reside (and bloatware). If you can find the system app in the play store then you can most likely, safely, move it elsewhere. Try to change where the missing shortcut apps are stored. AT is zip-aligning apps when it does its optimizations to make them load faster and give you a more organized file system.
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Yeah, happens right after boot process is complete. They just disappear from the Aviate Launcher collections areas. The apps themselves are still there... so it could be something in the Launcher doing it as well...
Yeah, not linking apps to sd card Not anymore at least lol.
kevp75 said:
Yeah, happens right after boot process is complete. They just disappear from the Aviate Launcher collections areas. The apps themselves are still there... so it could be something in the Launcher doing it as well...
Yeah, not linking apps to sd card Not anymore at least lol.
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The link2sd is mainly for phones with a small system storage. Our phones have a decent reserve set aside for it. It shows that the system memory is almost full, but its because the os is stored there. Some phones with a small internal storage have problems downloading apps once it gets just about full, even if the internal sd has plenty of room and get the "not enough storage" notification. Link2sd helps solve that for those devices. Android started making the mistake of installing apps to internal when they should be installed to SD. Something that didn't happen in earlier versions of Android. If you need room on the internal sd I know a couple of tricks to free up a large amount of space. Especially if you have 2 ".thumbdata" files in the DCIM directory that can each hold up to 500mb or more of crap you don't need at all. You can tell if you have them if your file manager is set to show hidden files and just deleting them doesn't work as they rebuild themselves after boot... total waste of space!
megamanDJ said:
The link2sd is mainly for phones with a small system storage. Our phones have a decent reserve set aside for it. It shows that the system memory is almost full, but its because the os is stored there. Some phones with a small internal storage have problems downloading apps once it gets just about full, even if the internal sd has plenty of room and get the "not enough storage" notification. Link2sd helps solve that for those devices. Android started making the mistake of installing apps to internal when they should be installed to SD. Something that didn't happen in earlier versions of Android. If you need room on the internal sd I know a couple of tricks to free up a large amount of space. Especially if you have 2 ".thumbdata" files in the DCIM directory that can each hold up to 500mb or more of crap you don't need at all. You can tell if you have them if your file manager is set to show hidden files and just deleting them doesn't work as they rebuild themselves after boot... total waste of space!
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Yeah, I'm good with space. 5.9GB free on internal, and 23.3GB free external
kevp75 said:
Yeah, I'm good with space. 5.9GB free on internal, and 23.3GB free external
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So, I ended going back to stock. re-rooted, the whole nine. Installed the Launcher... guess what... missing shortcuts, so it's definately not AT doing it
Hey man, thanks a ton for the help here... for some reason my XDA app isn't working so great, so I can't thank you enough
Borked it... DOH
Not real sure what did it either.
Not really borked, but now I am getting Google Play Store Force Closes every second or so... I've tried the 'settings'->'force close', 'settings'->'clear cache/data' reboot tricks... not of them worked.
I have all my apps Titaniumed already (except AT), so I'm going to revert the rom back...
kevp75 said:
Borked it... DOH
Not real sure what did it either.
Not really borked, but now I am getting Google Play Store Force Closes every second or so... I've tried the 'settings'->'force close', 'settings'->'clear cache/data' reboot tricks... not of them worked.
I have all my apps Titaniumed already (except AT), so I'm going to revert the rom back...
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Somesthing might be wrong with the google play services app. Or the google framework app. Can you restore all the google apps to their last working backups? Or the original versions if that dont work.
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What firmware are you on? If you have everything backed up on Titanium to the external sd, and if you brick it just flash the same firmware or one newer then reroot. I went from MF3 to MK2 that way with no problem. And its easy to root and Safestrap. Just search "MK2 recovery from brick" and you will run into the link with all the tar files you need.
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Somesthing might be wrong with the google play services app. Or the google framework app. Can you restore all the google apps to their last working backups? Or the original versions if that dont work.
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What firmware are you on? If you have everything backed up on Titanium to the external sd, and if you brick it just flash the same firmware or one newer then reroot. I went from MF3 to MK2 that way with no problem. And its easy to root and Safestrap. Just search "MK2 recovery from brick" and you will run into the link with all the tar files you need.
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Yeah, tried the restore of all thos.
on NB1... sort of I did the Deadly Venom 3.0 SafeStrap =) Anyways, I'm backup and running after a reflash... no biggee, didn';t take all that long to do LOL