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phone always rebooting? there is the solution

as we all know,if you close a program which need root ,the phone will reboot.but sometimes phone will reboot itself.why? because android system close program which need root for lacking of internal storage. you would say i didn't start any program which need root,however, you know some program start automatically when you start phone.check your auto startup list,there are some root needed program
in it. remove them and never start any root needed program, you will never meet reboot problems.
forgive my poor English,i'm a chinese.

I agree with you.For now,just wait for custom kernel and the problem will be solved.
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...I agree, the problem is that apps start some times even if you didnt run the. Task killers are not so help full in such things as can know if user run them or system...
I think that this is the more annoing thing on android.
YOU HAVE NO APP OPEN, AND YOUR HALF APPS ARE RUNNING.
i am not talking for must run apps...

mine247 said:
I agree with you.For now,just wait for custom kernel and the problem will be solved.
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i am waiting for a new kernel to solve this problem totally.it must solve the problem that when close root needed program ,phone will reboot.

Where to find Autostartup list? miniCM RC2

carsonfly said:
check your auto startup list,there are some root needed program in it. remove them and never start any root needed program, you will never meet reboot problems.
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Thx for the post! I just have a question to be sure : for example, apps to be closed are "root explorer", "super user", all that ask for super user status?!
Thx!

carsonfly said:
as we all know,if you close a program which need root ,the phone will reboot.but sometimes phone will reboot itself.why? because android system close program which need root for lacking of internal storage. you would say i didn't start any program which need root,however, you know some program start automatically when you start phone.check your auto startup list,there are some root needed program
in it. remove them and never start any root needed program, you will never meet reboot problems.
forgive my poor English,i'm a chinese.
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If it's rebooting very often, try removing overclock module, maybe that's the cause of your reboots, i got 690 MHZ OC. and while it was on 710 Mhz, it was always rebooting, so, remove OC or lower it and maybe you'll get rid of the prob

Need help for phone memor

why I always have phone process memory 20 to 30 MB free.. though i use task killer within 5 min it from 60 MB it goes to 20 MB please help my phone always slows down.
This is on my Xperia X8

At first there is no need to use task killer apps since the android software is smart enough to do this job on its own, from my experience only thing you get from task killers is to drain your battery faster...
On topic now, what rom you have on your phone now? Stock Rom or some custom? you tried to install app2SD so that you be able to move apps in SD? Have you uninstalled any factory apps that you dont need?
In my phone that is running Stock Rom atm. i uninstalled more than 10 factory apps and managed to have free memory +-100 MB
in any case check these threads so that you know what you need
For App2SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895071
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880387
Apps that can be removed Safely without having problem after (ofcourse if YOU dont need them)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890718

wildjohn said:
At first there is no need to use task killer apps since the android software is smart enough to do this job on its own, from my experience only thing you get from task killers is to drain your battery faster...
On topic now, what rom you have on your phone now? Stock Rom or some custom? you tried to install app2SD so that you be able to move apps in SD? Have you uninstalled any factory apps that you dont need?
In my phone that is running Stock Rom atm. i uninstalled more than 10 factory apps and managed to have free memory +-100 MB
in any case check these threads so that you know what you need
For App2SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895071
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880387
Apps that can be removed Safely without having problem after (ofcourse if YOU dont need them)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890718
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Err dude..i think OP ask about free Memory or in other words RAM not storage..try watchdog..able to set blacklist for an app..which mean if u want that app only used 10% of ur ram..and if the app used 11%..watchdog will kill it automatically

+ 1 for kecil ...or it can be increased with task killer apps.find it on the market

i will try this..thanks for ur help.

but still it was help full...i am using stock rom & app 2 sd but i scare to do this. ..
i have some question
1)which is fully working custom rom ?
2) how can i go back to stock rom
3) app 2sd will it affect my app performance?
& thanks for ur reply

wildjohn said:
At first there is no need to use task killer apps since the android software is smart enough to do this job on its own.
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Download autoruns, run it and then your opinion about how smart android is will change.
Task killer is a must have app from my point of view.

sidd6800 said:
but still it was help full...i am using stock rom & app 2 sd but i scare to do this. ..
i have some question
1)which is fully working custom rom ?
2) how can i go back to stock rom
3) app 2sd will it affect my app performance?
& thanks for ur reply
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1. if you talk about FULLY, its still bugs on customs. but the less bugs is MiniCM
2. back up your system using xrecovery before you apply custom ROM, then you will be able to restore it later
3. no effect, it just remain on your SD

Cleaner than "clean ec07" ?

I love my Continuum.
But... it is so much "noisier" than all other Android phones that I tried!
By "noisier", I mean constant bombardment of the system log by all the applications that run there and, most annoyingly, random interruption by unsolicited notifications, messages, RSS, etc.
This gets in the way of certain applications that I run in the foreground, so I tried an application called "Android Assistant" to help kill unneeded applications/services on boot. It doesn't help, as the system seems not to allow killing certain processes.
Is there a Continuum ROM that's cleaner than the latest ec07?
Is there a CyanogenMod ROM for the Continuum?
Frankly, I prefer keeping the existing ROM and only install a Market application that kills on boot all the the applications that I don't need (e.g. Market, Gmail, Corporate Email, etc.), but is there such an application that really works?
Thanks!

Titaniumbackup or a root tool to uninstall bloat / apps u don't use. That's short of setting up a kitchen and cooking ur own rom.
PS I'd try tib first cause I remember the trouble u had with flashing the rom to begin with
Pss
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My ROM is less bloated, but it still has like Gmail for example

I enjoy a very minimulistic device with very little clutter and apps.. I am currently working on a rom based on nuckin's, with a few tweeks, apks removed and some added to my liking. i am currently flashing the first test. Hopefully with a day or two, or even possibly tonight if it doesn't get to late i will post it up in a beta form.

Thats what Im talking about when are we going to get Cyanogen to make us a rom
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I'd try tib first cause I remember the trouble u had with flashing the rom to begin with
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Good memory!
I actually took a look at TIB and the task of deciding which application or service to uninstall looks daunting.
This is especially scary when I am prompted by the following warning when I try to uninstall via TIB:
Some system packages are needed for your phone to work properly. If you un-install the wrong package, it's your fault and you may need to reinstall your ROM !
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How do I know up front which system packages I can uninstall? For example, if I uninstall Gmail, will the Market stop working?
For example, I uninstalled a few applications that I don't need and now I am getting periodic "Force close" messages for the following:
hiddenmenu - com.android.hiddenmenu
Messaging - com.android.mms
What is "hiddenmenu"?
I am attaching a text file listing all currently installed APKs. If you could provide tips which ones must absolutely remain on the phone, that would be much appreciated.
Thanks!

Penguinrocker said:
Thats what Im talking about when are we going to get Cyanogen to make us a rom
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well i think we could do something with CM as soon as/if we ever get an open source kernel newer than 2.1update.

Defy+ Gingerbread: too much ram consumption

Hello!
Running 2.3.6 after flashing to gain root privileges I find so much ram drains from the phone. Always am in low-mem mode even if had installed memory boosters.
Also, seems like there are apps like TaskManager and DLNA I am unable either to kill and force close.
Ant hint?
Cheers,
eth*
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etherea said:
Hello!
Running 2.3.6 after flashing to gain root privileges I find so much ram drains from the phone. Always am in low-mem mode even if had installed memory boosters.
Also, seems like there are apps like TaskManager and DLNA I am unable either to kill and force close.
Ant hint?
Cheers,
eth*
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Have you tried Supercharger script ? You won't have such an issue, and that is specially noticable on stock rom.

You can use freeze function in Titanium backup making the apps invisible to system.

@NITRO: seems a nice solution, where do I find it?
@Vicsa: that worked for a couple of apps actually, so thanks!
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if u dont want to take the pain to supercharge your phone then u can try "auto memory manager" and apply the aggressive mode. That shud help.

Here's the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276 and it's actually very simple to use.

Thanks, will try after a Nandroid backup =)
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Will have a look at it, thanks =)
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[Q] S4 Performance?

I've been wondering something.
Ive been a android fan for awhile, and previous phones have had less than desirable space left for apps. so ive always used link2sd with great effect.
What I am wondering now is (because I now have plenty internal storage on my s4) is, would I gain any performance boost by continuing to utilize link2sd for my apps?
Or would I benefit more by not bothering? Are there any benchmarks to support yay or nay?
My cards a class10 32g card... and I know the s4 supports ext4.
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kevp75 said:
I've been wondering something.
Ive been a android fan for awhile, and previous phones have had less than desirable space left for apps. so ive always used link2sd with great effect.
What I am wondering now is (because I now have plenty internal storage on my s4) is, would I gain any performance boost by continuing to utilize link2sd for my apps?
Or would I benefit more by not bothering? Are there any benchmarks to support yay or nay?
My cards a class10 32g card... and I know the s4 supports ext4.
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As far as performance goes by using link2sd... maybe a little during app loading, but not enough to notice. Are you rooted? The best app i have ever seen period for performance adjusting is Android Tuner. The paid version offers just about every possible tool to adjust every possible aspect of the rom. You should at least give it a glance. I boosted the crap out of my phone with that app alone.
Good benchmarking app is "AnTuTu"

megamanDJ said:
As far as performance goes by using link2sd... maybe a little during app loading, but not enough to notice. Are you rooted? The best app i have ever seen period for performance adjusting is Android Tuner. The paid version offers just about every possible tool to adjust every possible aspect of the rom. You should at least give it a glance. I boosted the crap out of my phone with that app alone.
Good benchmarking app is "AnTuTu"
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yeah tried link2sd... and swapper... neither did a thing
I'll check out that AT
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kevp75 said:
yeah tried link2sd... and swapper... neither did a thing
I'll check out that AT
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Link2sd and similar apps are really only for adjusting storage space. Performance modding lies in Android Tuner and other like apps... AT is a beast of an app though. You can get the link2sd function through it and ramp up the cpu. Try freezing as much bloatware as you can and tune up your build.prop settings as a start to get better performance with the app

megamanDJ said:
Link2sd and similar apps are really only for adjusting storage space. Performance modding lies in Android Tuner and other like apps... AT is a beast of an app though. You can get the link2sd function through it and ramp up the cpu. Try freezing as much bloatware as you can and tune up your build.prop settings as a start to get better performance with the app
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lookin into it now just hope I dont create a paperweight LOL
bloatwares already gone... thank u Titanium Gone so far as freezing the TouchWiz Launchers without issue
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kevp75 said:
lookin into it now just hope I dont create a paperweight LOL
bloatwares already gone... thank u Titanium Gone so far as freezing the TouchWiz Launchers without issue
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You should be OK as long as you freeze instead of uninstalling the system apps. Or at least make backups of them in case you need to get an OTA update. If you are missing system files then it makes getting upgrades a pain in the butt. I assume you have a custom recovery too? Everything is easily reversible that you do on AT. The only issue I ever had was when i tried to have certain CPU settings apply themselves with init.d without kernel support. All I had to do was flash the disabler in recovery that you can create in the app.
For good performance setting you can try this: set CPU gov to interactive, use most of the presets available for the build.prop menu, set a bigger I/O cache with "deadline" scheduler in the SD menu, set a more aggressive OOM preset, and increase entropy as high as you can. All of these while setting them to apply on boot. There is a lot to discover in that app so have fun and make backups!

megamanDJ said:
You should be OK as long as you freeze instead of uninstalling the system apps. Or at least make backups of them in case you need to get an OTA update. If you are missing system files then it makes getting upgrades a pain in the butt. I assume you have a custom recovery too? Everything is easily reversible that you do on AT. The only issue I ever had was when i tried to have certain CPU settings apply themselves with init.d without kernel support. All I had to do was flash the disabler in recovery that you can create in the app.
For good performance setting you can try this: set CPU gov to interactive, use most of the presets available for the build.prop menu, set a bigger I/O cache with "deadline" scheduler in the SD menu, set a more aggressive OOM preset, and increase entropy as high as you can. All of these while setting them to apply on boot. There is a lot to discover in that app so have fun and make backups!
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yeah Ill b doing most of these tomorrow im on the rom in my sig... which unfortunately does not allow safestrap to mount /system so im unable to do a nandroid.... but i did just finish a titanium bacup so at least if I do bork... Ill still have my apps
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kevp75 said:
yeah Ill b doing most of these tomorrow im on the rom in my sig... which unfortunately does not allow safestrap to mount /system so im unable to do a nandroid.... but i did just finish a titanium bacup so at least if I do bork... Ill still have my apps
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I found something weird. I assume it's AT... but not really sure. I'm using Aviate Launcher, and what I noticed that after AT did it's "cleaning" some of the shortcuts to a few apps would dissappear... always the same apps (minecraft, xda, etc...)
Would you happen to know how I can prevent this? I had it set to clean and optimize all apps/databases and trim partitions.

kevp75 said:
I found something weird. I assume it's AT... but not really sure. I'm using Aviate Launcher, and what I noticed that after AT did it's "cleaning" some of the shortcuts to a few apps would dissappear... always the same apps (minecraft, xda, etc...)
Would you happen to know how I can prevent this? I had it set to clean and optimize all apps/databases and trim partitions.
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It happens after the cleaning process? Right after boot complete? You can check to see if it is AT by disabling the boot scheduler in device manager, and then a few minutes after the phone boots up manually run the cleaning process to see if its happening when it does it.
Also, when i had shortcuts disappear on me it was because I had them moved to or from the device or ext sd card. Some apps need to be installed to internal storage for them to work right. You should never move any apps to the system storage that weren't already there. That's different from internal storage, which is the same as internal SD. The system partition is where the pre installed apps reside (and bloatware). If you can find the system app in the play store then you can most likely, safely, move it elsewhere. Try to change where the missing shortcut apps are stored. AT is zip-aligning apps when it does its optimizations to make them load faster and give you a more organized file system.

megamanDJ said:
It happens after the cleaning process? Right after boot complete? You can check to see if it is AT by disabling the boot scheduler in device manager, and then a few minutes after the phone boots up manually run the cleaning process to see if its happening when it does it.
Also, when i had shortcuts disappear on me it was because I had them moved to or from the device or ext sd card. Some apps need to be installed to internal storage for them to work right. You should never move any apps to the system storage that weren't already there. That's different from internal storage, which is the same as internal SD. The system partition is where the pre installed apps reside (and bloatware). If you can find the system app in the play store then you can most likely, safely, move it elsewhere. Try to change where the missing shortcut apps are stored. AT is zip-aligning apps when it does its optimizations to make them load faster and give you a more organized file system.
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Yeah, happens right after boot process is complete. They just disappear from the Aviate Launcher collections areas. The apps themselves are still there... so it could be something in the Launcher doing it as well...
Yeah, not linking apps to sd card Not anymore at least lol.

kevp75 said:
Yeah, happens right after boot process is complete. They just disappear from the Aviate Launcher collections areas. The apps themselves are still there... so it could be something in the Launcher doing it as well...
Yeah, not linking apps to sd card Not anymore at least lol.
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The link2sd is mainly for phones with a small system storage. Our phones have a decent reserve set aside for it. It shows that the system memory is almost full, but its because the os is stored there. Some phones with a small internal storage have problems downloading apps once it gets just about full, even if the internal sd has plenty of room and get the "not enough storage" notification. Link2sd helps solve that for those devices. Android started making the mistake of installing apps to internal when they should be installed to SD. Something that didn't happen in earlier versions of Android. If you need room on the internal sd I know a couple of tricks to free up a large amount of space. Especially if you have 2 ".thumbdata" files in the DCIM directory that can each hold up to 500mb or more of crap you don't need at all. You can tell if you have them if your file manager is set to show hidden files and just deleting them doesn't work as they rebuild themselves after boot... total waste of space!

megamanDJ said:
The link2sd is mainly for phones with a small system storage. Our phones have a decent reserve set aside for it. It shows that the system memory is almost full, but its because the os is stored there. Some phones with a small internal storage have problems downloading apps once it gets just about full, even if the internal sd has plenty of room and get the "not enough storage" notification. Link2sd helps solve that for those devices. Android started making the mistake of installing apps to internal when they should be installed to SD. Something that didn't happen in earlier versions of Android. If you need room on the internal sd I know a couple of tricks to free up a large amount of space. Especially if you have 2 ".thumbdata" files in the DCIM directory that can each hold up to 500mb or more of crap you don't need at all. You can tell if you have them if your file manager is set to show hidden files and just deleting them doesn't work as they rebuild themselves after boot... total waste of space!
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Yeah, I'm good with space. 5.9GB free on internal, and 23.3GB free external

kevp75 said:
Yeah, I'm good with space. 5.9GB free on internal, and 23.3GB free external
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So, I ended going back to stock. re-rooted, the whole nine. Installed the Launcher... guess what... missing shortcuts, so it's definately not AT doing it
Hey man, thanks a ton for the help here... for some reason my XDA app isn't working so great, so I can't thank you enough

Borked it... DOH
Not real sure what did it either.
Not really borked, but now I am getting Google Play Store Force Closes every second or so... I've tried the 'settings'->'force close', 'settings'->'clear cache/data' reboot tricks... not of them worked.
I have all my apps Titaniumed already (except AT), so I'm going to revert the rom back...

kevp75 said:
Borked it... DOH
Not real sure what did it either.
Not really borked, but now I am getting Google Play Store Force Closes every second or so... I've tried the 'settings'->'force close', 'settings'->'clear cache/data' reboot tricks... not of them worked.
I have all my apps Titaniumed already (except AT), so I'm going to revert the rom back...
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Somesthing might be wrong with the google play services app. Or the google framework app. Can you restore all the google apps to their last working backups? Or the original versions if that dont work.
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What firmware are you on? If you have everything backed up on Titanium to the external sd, and if you brick it just flash the same firmware or one newer then reroot. I went from MF3 to MK2 that way with no problem. And its easy to root and Safestrap. Just search "MK2 recovery from brick" and you will run into the link with all the tar files you need.

megamanDJ said:
Somesthing might be wrong with the google play services app. Or the google framework app. Can you restore all the google apps to their last working backups? Or the original versions if that dont work.
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What firmware are you on? If you have everything backed up on Titanium to the external sd, and if you brick it just flash the same firmware or one newer then reroot. I went from MF3 to MK2 that way with no problem. And its easy to root and Safestrap. Just search "MK2 recovery from brick" and you will run into the link with all the tar files you need.
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Yeah, tried the restore of all thos.
on NB1... sort of I did the Deadly Venom 3.0 SafeStrap =) Anyways, I'm backup and running after a reflash... no biggee, didn';t take all that long to do LOL