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Leos (Vodafone / t-mobile / O2) UK vs retail?

Hi
I am thinking on buy the HTC with some of this carriers, But I don't know if in UK, the carriers change anything of this phones.
For example, in Spain, if you buy something they sell the device with a modified rom for their own system, and physical differences from the retail devices (logos and back of the phone).
Any of this carriers have the HD2 exactly as is in retail?
regards

This is very important to me aswell. I have t mobiles version of the touch pro at the moment, and i hate what they do to phones to make them their own.
Hopefully they will leave the HD2 alone.

i cant give you a definate answer but it was my understanding that HTC are fed up with making unique phones for different carriers so are trying to get away from doing it.
if you bought from orange i would still expect their little logo etched into the phone somewhere.
as for the rom, it is no problem to flash your phone with a custom or standard rom to get rid of all of the operator rubbish they shove in there

Update for HTC HD2 (O2) UMTS900 Band

Anyone had any problems or improvements with this.
I work in the middle of London and suffer from poor reception due to this buildings construction.
Once people start leaving my reception improves so i cant tell yet but i currently have move bars internally than i have had ever.

I had issue with no 3G signal since upgrading to ROM 1.72.206.3.
Now installed the "Update for HTC HD2 (O2) UMTS900 Band" but still having issues. Seems to get 3G signal when I reboot but then looses it and doesn't come back.
Anyone else having same issue?

Does that mean that all of our HD2's are hardware-wise capable of UMTS at 900Mhz?
If so can this O2 only update be reverse-engineered to apply to Vodafone handsets too or those handsets running custom ROM's?

I take it that this update won't work with the standard HTC ROM?
Just typical though. When I bought my HD2 (O2) I flashed it to the generic HTC ROM to get away from all the O2 crap on the phone. Since then all the updates are coming for O2 and Vodafone and none for the standard HTC generic ROM. Have HTC given up on producing generic updates? I would have thought we'd have seen more updates for the generic ROM but it looks like I was wrong
Cheers,
Richard.

Starfury said:
Does that mean that all of our HD2's are hardware-wise capable of UMTS at 900Mhz?
If so can this O2 only update be reverse-engineered to apply to Vodafone handsets too or those handsets running custom ROM's?
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the regular leo already supports 900, i believe this is just a software update. (coincidentally, my phone refused to lock on to o2 for calls and data last night for about an hour, and ever since I've shown more bars in places where i get 1 bar, I'm now getting 2/3),, maybe they're going live with a network upgrade?)
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I take it that this update won't work with the standard HTC ROM?
Just typical though. When I bought my HD2 (O2) I flashed it to the generic HTC ROM to get away from all the O2 crap on the phone. Since then all the updates are coming for O2 and Vodafone and none for the standard HTC generic ROM. Have HTC given up on producing generic updates? I would have thought we'd have seen more updates for the generic ROM but it looks like I was wrong
Cheers,
Richard.
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probably only applies to phones on o2 network, but it installed fine in mine with a 2.13 based cooked rom. can't see any difference except that it already got better last nightbefore i applied this just now.

Changing region?

Hey all,
I found a person selling a Chinese X10, and I was wondering if/how I can change its region to Canada, change it's language to English, and make it work with Rogers.
Help would be greatly appreciated,.
Thanks!

you can root with build r2ba023 from this region

It'll be a X10i so you'll only have 2g working no 3g.

This phone would be for my girlfriend because she is in love with the X10, but doesn't want a contract, so I would prefer not having to root hers if i dont have to because she will most likely not see any benefits from it. I'm getting one myself this weekend, and I'll root mine because I luvs me some fiddling with software. As for the 2g and not 3g, she will probably not have a data plan, so it would be mainly wifi and the lack of 3g wouldn't matter.
So I guess what it comes down to is, will the phone have an english language option? and will switching it to english, and unlocking it for use with rogers be enough?
Thanks for the replies

All x10 (or all android phones?) comes with multiple languages like Iphone does.
what you need to do is change the phone language in settings. and I think all x10 they sell in china are unlocked, so it shouldn't be a problem if you just put your sim card in.

stevencxr said:
I think all x10 they sell in china are unlocked, so it shouldn't be a problem if you just put your sim card in.
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Sir, if this is true, you have made my life easier than...it would have been otherwise.
Yea I couldn't think of anything smarter.

I'm in China, and I bought mine here a month or so ago. I could be wrong, but I believe the X10 isn't officially available in China - my model was illegally imported (as many big-name phones are, as they haven't been crippled in any way; like removing WiFi), so your phone is likely from another country, not China. I just checked the SE China website; they have the X10i on it, but clicking 'buy now' takes you to the Vivaz!
Mine is an X10i and came with English, Japanese and Chinese keyboards. The phone's region can be set to English (UK or US), and western software like Twitter and Facebook was included.
When I got mine, I didn't actually check which region my phone was actually from, and I now have HK firmware running on it (even this can be set to UK or US regions).
Oh, and it was also fully unlocked and unbranded out of the box.

shanespencer said:
I'm in China, and I bought mine here a month or so ago. I could be wrong, but I believe the X10 isn't officially available in China - my model was illegally imported (as many big-name phones are, as they haven't been crippled in any way; like removing WiFi), so your phone is likely from another country, not China. I just checked the SE China website; they have the X10i on it, but clicking 'buy now' takes you to the Vivaz!
Mine is an X10i and came with English, Japanese and Chinese keyboards. The phone's region can be set to English (UK or US), and western software like Twitter and Facebook was included.
When I got mine, I didn't actually check which region my phone was actually from, and I now have HK firmware running on it (even this can be set to UK or US regions).
Oh, and it was also fully unlocked and unbranded out of the box.
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Sorry that this is off topic but I'm glad to find someone in the same boat. I have the HK region X10i and I'm sick of not getting updates from SEUS. I think the HK firmware is causing some troubles on my phone such as the camera shutter sound won't shut off. Does yours do that?

How to see if the phone is branded?

I had bought the legend from Vodafone. How can I see if the phone is branded? I don't have no Vodafone logo or something like that on it.
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I suspect that it's branded by Vodafone. Branded means that the sim card only for the given operator works on given phone. Branded phones also have some apps preinstalled by the network operator.
I've understand that the HTC announcment yesterday is a big deal ( and the reason for this topic ). For me to be honest is another more polite way to say "coming soon".

branded doesnt necessarily mean that the phone is locked to the carrier.
i got a vodafone branded legend and i can use it with any carrier. im not suer if its the same for all vodafone branded phones, but on boot i got a vodafone logo plus 2 vodafone apps installed i cannot remove.

Hmm I don't have the Vodafone logo on start up and no apps installed. Is there another way to see if the phone is branded? I received the OTA updates from the last 3 months though, no problem with that.
I'll try tomorrow an Orange SIM to see if the phone in locked to a network.

seems like they forgot to flash the firmware of your phone.
vodafone branded phones arent simlocked, im using a prepaid medion mobile sim and used free 5€ o.tel.o sims in the past (germany).
there are 2 vodafone apps on the homescreen and there is an other bootanimation (without bootsound) and a slightly diffrent widget positioning.
the internal browser has vodafone.xx as its default page. thats it.

Check your software version number (settings - about phone - software information). If you post that here we could tell you for sure if your phone is using a vodafone branded ROM.
Swyped from my HTC Legend using XDA App

2.10.178.1 is my software number... is that branded?

Apparently my ROM is a Vodafone AU rom, but I've got no boot logo of Vodafone apps. Wonder when I'll get Froyo then. Hmm.

2.05.405.2 is the software number. Do you need also the kernel version or build number?
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with smsbug? have you bought the device via ebay? maybe someone already removed every sign of the branding.

I have the same software number as in2ition. Mine came straight out of a vodafone store but doesn't have a vodafone boot logo or vodafone apps installed. Besides, the box in which I bought it, didn't have anything on it from vodafone either.
So I'm wondering if it's branded too. (?)
ps. And yes, it has the sms-bug.

Ran86 said:
I have the same software number as in2ition. Mine came straight out of a vodafone store but doesn't have a vodafone boot logo or vodafone apps installed. Besides, the box in which I bought it, didn't have anything on it from vodafone either.
So I'm wondering if it's branded too. (?)
ps. And yes, it has the sms-bug.
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identical situation

Your phone is not branded by the way. It was a faulty update that they didn't release everywhere because it caused that sms bug and broke many peoples wifi.
Hopefully they release Froyo for it for you soon

Virgin mobile legend not getting update.

http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/95/t/3518.aspx?PageIndex=3
So for those like me who purchased a virgin mobile legend we won't get it. Not sure what to do then.
Although it is a virgin phone, all I did to it was unlock it to use with Rogers. What should I do?
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i have a virgin legend too so am in the same boat...not really surprised that virgin is not coming out with the update - welcome to canada
i really want to flash the unbranded froyo rom that came out today but unfortunately it doesnt look like its possible now...
until we can change our cid's or have a resigned ROM with our cid (BM___001) we would have to root and go with cyanogen 6.1 or another custom rom (not my 1st choice)..
if anyone has a workaround please help us out...thanks in advance

Well I wouldn't mind trying a few ROM's, but I'm a complete join with this stuff. I suppose I need to learn now...
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I bought a Legend from Virgin mobile in August. I became tired of their games and recently purchased a sim card from Bell and put it in the Legend. Guess what? It worked no problem. I can tell you I never unlocked my phone. The Virgin Legend did not have any Virgin mobile software or wigets in them. The only place I saw the word Virgin mobile, was in the network operators list, (mobile network settings), and in network operator name,(about phone, settings). These changed from Virgin, to Bell when I put the Bell sim in. I am now wondering if my phone is still branded to Virgin. If it is not, I would suggest to the OP that you terminate your account with Virgin on the basis that they ended your upgrade path, then take your phone over to Bell, or maybe even Rogers. that said, how do we know that rogers would care to license an OTA upgrade for a phone they never sold? At least Bell sold the phone for a few months.

I got my phone from Virgin as well and I am using the modaco stock froyo rom. It is basically stock except it's rooted. The experience will be exactly the same (unlike using other custom roms) Trying to make the new ruu work on a Virgin phone is probably not gonna be much simpler than rooting, so you may as well go the rooting route.

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I got my phone from Virgin as well and I am using the modaco stock froyo rom. It is basically stock except it's rooted. The experience will be exactly the same (unlike using other custom roms) Trying to make the new ruu work on a Virgin phone is probably not gonna be much simpler than rooting, so you may as well go the rooting route.
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so the modaco stock froyo rom is based on the htc unbranded rom that was released today? do you have a link?
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I bought a Legend from Virgin mobile in August. I became tired of their games and recently purchased a sim card from Bell and put it in the Legend. Guess what? It worked no problem. I can tell you I never unlocked my phone. The Virgin Legend did not have any Virgin mobile software or wigets in them. The only place I saw the word Virgin mobile, was in the network operators list, (mobile network settings), and in network operator name,(about phone, settings). These changed from Virgin, to Bell when I put the Bell sim in. I am now wondering if my phone is still branded to Virgin. If it is not, I would suggest to the OP that you terminate your account with Virgin on the basis that they ended your upgrade path, then take your phone over to Bell, or maybe even Rogers. that said, how do we know that rogers would care to license an OTA upgrade for a phone they never sold? At least Bell sold the phone for a few months.
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you realize bell=virgin right? bell discontinued the legend so you wont see an update from them either...

Not so my friend. Check out post #14
http://mobilesyrup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3928

I figured they (virgin or bell) would either do it really late or not at all. So I debranded it, but got the same error as in the other threads during the upgrade.
Then I decided to try CM 6.1, and the only thing i regret is not trying it sooner. Never going back to sense again, CM is cleaner, faster, with lots more options.

nolook said:
so the modaco stock froyo rom is based on the htc unbranded rom that was released today? do you have a link?
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It's based on the vodafone rom that came out couple weeks ago but there is nothing about vodafone in it (no logo nor junk app). It should be identical to the one that came out today (at least from the end-user point of view anyway)
Here is the link:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...o-rom-for-the-htc-legend-with-online-kitchen/

You guys really need to stop emailing unknowledgable "support staff" and wait for official announcements like this one from the Virgin Mobile Canada twitter feed:
"android update! we'll be offering android 2.2 froyo update for htc legend in mid-january. stay tuned for details."
Looks like official Froyo for our Legends after all!

couldnt possibly wait until jan and dont want any bell stuff on my legend so installed the official htc unbranded froyo rom....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9764446#post9764446

nolook said:
couldnt possibly wait until jan and dont want any bell stuff on my legend so installed the official htc unbranded froyo rom....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9764446#post9764446
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Yeah, I couldn't wait either and put Cyanogenmod on my Legend. My wife will be getting the Virgin update when it's available

Hey guys!
Just to be sure, is Virgin Mobile software version the same as the Bell one?
If so, that means if Virgin get the update, us with a Bell phone will get it to?

Virgin announced the Vibrant's update, and it was rolled out to Virgin, Bell and Sasktel so I assume so yes.
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