Some of you are aware of how "paranoid" I am, and refuse to have my Calendar and Contact synced via google.
Just before I did my firmware upgrade today, I used an application in the market place called MyBackup, but I carefully avoided choosing to backup to local (SD card) and not Online.
After I flashed the new firmware and made the restore, I discoverd to my horror that all my contacts are now having the symbol "g" within a square, which I understood to be indicative of the fact that these contact are now also stored in Google's server somewhere, and none of the contact are coming from my phone! So, MyBackup restored my entire contact database from my phone to the cloud rather than my phone? There is not single contact entry on my phone now. Everything I have is shown to be from Google.
Anyone knows how the hell could this happen? Is MyBackup a sneaky program which steal all these information and put it to the cloud without my consent?
I'm really really pissed
Now I'm forced to put in dummy tel number and address, birthday to all my contact and let Google get the false data, before abandoning Google phone platform all together. THIS IS EVIL, SNEAKY, UNETHICAL !!!
You really are paranoid .
I don't think MyBackup Pro actually stores all your contacts on some Google server - I think the app just assumes they are Google contacts. I've stopped using it for backing up contacts for a different reason: because it duplicates everything when restoring it - a real PITA. And by everything I mean everything - linked contacts become multiple independent contacts, some of them without any details and impossible to delete without a factory reset. I'm actually using Kies for that now (ironic, no? ).
Do you have a Google account for using the phone with? The simple thing do is to log in there and check whether your contacts are actually in there. If not then they probably aren't.
If you are that paranoid perhaps put the phone into airplane mode when you backup?
I think you are being a bit paranoid here. Besides google might just keep changelogs on the contact which would render you attempt with dummy info useless.
I just checked. I don't see any entry under contact when I signed in. Whew!
But please explain to me why all my contacts now are displayed under the google heading? (You know the display option in contact lets us select contact on the SIM, Phone, or Google?), now all my entries are under google. Yet, I don't see any thing there (yet?)
According to this thread, I think there's still a possibility that my details has already been taken without my permission, although it's not reflected in the contact list in google account.
I'm confused...
To anyone of you thinking that I'm paranoid, one day you will know I'm right. The world just isn't as innocent as you think.
I have to very seriously re-evaluate whether I would want an Android phone. It's way too open, anyone can take information from me, since there is no QA done on the market place applications.
Think someone's had a bit too much wacky tobacco.
GOT you info
I could be wrong but all my contact say Google except the one i use my HTC Sync to transfer my work email from Outlook.
By the way i can see all of your contacts. You were too late!!!
eaglesteve said:
To anyone of you thinking that I'm paranoid, one day you will know I'm right. The world just isn't as innocent as you think.
I have to very seriously re-evaluate whether I would want an Android phone. It's way too open, anyone can take information from me, since there is no QA done on the market place applications.
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Ok, for starters,
1) The [G] means they have been imported into your Google account. Probably, as mentioned by your backup. Go to Google Contacts and you can wipe them. But no, I don't believe they took them without your permissions.
2) What makes your email addresses so valuable? Do you honestly believe Google cares? Hahaha... Clearly, you don't know anyone who works at Google. I met a bunch and they really are all legends, and they know your rights. They are normal people, not politicians. This is in comparison to Apple people I know, who I post stuff to on their facebook wall, they remove it secretly and tell me by email that they didn't want their manager to see it.
3) If you are concerned about privacy, why can you trust the "MyBackup" program. did you install an applications which isn't open source?
Perhaps you should get a dumb phone or hack up your own firmware and remove Google's services?
You should also consider avoiding entering ANY google account if you don't trust them. Why did you enter them in the first place? To enter the market where Google could track your downloads, your location and your firmware? Seriously, I strongly urge you to sell your Android phone if you don't trust them. Instead, get a dumb phone. I however believe my contacts list is useless to Google, so have no problems sharing information with them
i don't know about that backup program you are using.
however, if you are concerned about the contacts @ google.
just login to your google account, and select DELETE all contacts, in your account.
then it'll be all gone
you can do the same for all the emails too.
once deleted they will no longer have your data on their servers.
eaglesteve said:
Some of you are aware of how "paranoid" I am, and refuse to have my Calendar and Contact synced via google.
Just before I did my firmware upgrade today, I used an application in the market place called MyBackup, but I carefully avoided choosing to backup to local (SD card) and not Online.
After I flashed the new firmware and made the restore, I discoverd to my horror that all my contacts are now having the symbol "g" within a square, which I understood to be indicative of the fact that these contact are now also stored in Google's server somewhere, and none of the contact are coming from my phone! So, MyBackup restored my entire contact database from my phone to the cloud rather than my phone? There is not single contact entry on my phone now. Everything I have is shown to be from Google.
Anyone knows how the hell could this happen? Is MyBackup a sneaky program which steal all these information and put it to the cloud without my consent?
I'm really really pissed
Now I'm forced to put in dummy tel number and address, birthday to all my contact and let Google get the false data, before abandoning Google phone platform all together. THIS IS EVIL, SNEAKY, UNETHICAL !!!
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It's BackupPro when it restores the contacts it assigns them as Google. I made the mistake of backing-up and restoring contacts with this and spent the next hour wondering how I've got contacts with 3 Google entries when I was expecting only two.
I have no problem syncing all my data with Google's servers, but I want to remember everyone that the right of privacy is an absolute requirement for a working democracy.
If eaglesteve does not want his data being stored at a central repository then he has every right to freak out when it appears as if his contacts were synced with Google's Servers.
Of course, if he should believe that Google is after him personally, well, then this is probably a bad sign of paranoia
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You really are paranoid .
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I thought the same until I saw he's in Australia.... the government over there is screwed up big time. The crap they are trying to do to their Internet is appalling.
I'm also paranoid about the same...i did this to solve (ive not an english firmware so will try to give simmilar instructions):
go to contacts -> menu -> more -> import/export and save all contacts to a vcard on SD, and connect to pc and save that vcard on pc.
Go into settings -> privacy -> "erase all data" (dunno how its called on english firmware)
then i chose to erase data on SD also after unmounting it.
After that i restarted phone without simcard and with volup+home+power i cleared cache and hard reseted it.
After that the phone boots with factory settings and without simcard and keep it that way and connect to internet via wireless after booting.
Then i checked if i had no contacts, there were none so all okay... went to menu, definitions -> "accounts and sincronization" and i added my google account, but i unchecked first the auto sync and data in second plan above (the options above, dunno how they are called in english firmware). Then the google account was added. Then i disabled wireless and checked the options i disabled in last step (the auto sync and the other), i opened the google account i added in last step and disabled all syncs there (sync calendar, contacts and gmail).
After that i went to contacts and restored all contacts via the vcard, all are stored on phone after that (via the same import/export option).
As a final option i went to my gmail and deleted all contacts synced... now the phone is not syncing with google in any way but i can use the market because i have a google acc added...
dunno if i explained myself well, it worked for me that way.
I'd love to hear some worst case scenarios of what you think might happen if mr google checks your contacts and finds your mate Fred's email address.
And also why you'd think anyone would want to know your contacts.
are you worried that your network provider has a log of who you called and when?
if they find Fred's address, Fred is effed.
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well.... i dont like to give my info/data away, just really when needed.... some years ago maybe not, but today, google and other companies have so much info about so much people around the world, and you dont even know if they use it or not, you are not there to check... they can for example see the places you visit more because of gps tracking, if people in some zone visit shoppings a lot and at what times, who your friends are and if they use android and gmail also (by contacts), and assemble strategies for their business based on that, because all we are giving is free info about what we do, who we are, who our friends are....that, for business activities is very valuable. And im not talking about gmail, with all valuable info about everyone, they are able to see all your info since you have all stuff stored on their servers and they dont need to tell to you anything about it and you dont even know they maybe will do it... i may be wrong, but thats my point of view, i didnt had that oppinion since a friend i have, erased all his mails from gmail telling me "google can use all my info for marketing purposes or another stuff"...
They give us free services, but there is no such things as free services... we pay with info to improve their business, thats my point of view...
I'm not concerned with the email of my friends. I'm concerned that their photos, address, birthday, spouse's name, children's name, telephone number, work place number, fax number, and everything is on the cloud, which means any hacker could get it, and the consequence would be serious. It's not giving MY details away. It's giving my friend's details away, and I don't want to do that to my friends.
In Australia, we have this thing called the Privacy law. You just can't come around and grab my wifi address, email login password, and claim that you make a mistake unintentionally. All these data stealings are deliberate.
For those of you saying that it's not a big deal, could you all in your next post show me your real photos, address, name, telephone numbers, birthday, spouse's name, children's name, and the other typical contact info on this forum.
So, now they grabbed my contact without my consent. Have they also grabbed my eWallet password file and are now cracking it?
I can't believe you guys are not seeing problem here.
Nuf said.
as long as google don't try to sell me anything they can do what they want with my data.
I'm pretty sure my bank and credit card company know more about me than google and their sales and junk mail are certainly more annoying than anything google ever did to me.
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Hi,
Basically I don't use google account to sync my contacts because the groups thing doesn't work the way I want it. So instead, I use Kies, which allow you to sync Outlook contact with your phone, which all worked fine.
However, last night before going to bed I sent a few sms message and everything was fine, i.e. all contacts were there. But this morning when I work up because of a text message from a strange number, which was actually from a friend of mine, so I thought he has a new number so I tried to update his contacts but when I click on "Update existing contact" my address book pops up and is ... empty.
After that, I opened my contacts and NOTHING is there.
I turned on displaying google contacts and its all fine, but when I choose phone contact, absolutely nothing is displayed.
I did absolutely nothing last night, and I don't believe I cleared all my contacts while in my sleep (because I don't even know how to do that while im awake).
Anyone has this problem before and/or know how to solve it please help .
Btw, I have been adding quiet a lots of contacts over the last 2 weeks (since last time I sync with kies) so I really need them back.
Thanks.
this just happened to me, nobody knows how to solve this problem?
login to you gmail account and see if they are still there
Hello, trying to help a friend who purchased an unlocked Vibrant, but is using his At&t sim card in the phone. He also believes the phone may be rooted.
Here is the problem, we double checked everything. Google syncs is turned on, all settings are correct. Auto sync of contacts is check marked. Yet, the phone will NOT sync his contacts from google into his vibrant. We also tried adding a new contact in the phone, and saving it to google contacts, which techinically should also now show the contact in the phone also, and it wont show up in the phone, but it does show up when you logg into google on the computer.
Anyone know whats going on? Thank you.
I would try a factory reset, if that doesn't work contact samsung for a warranty exchange. I can't think of anything else to try.
As far as I can tell, this is a real problem.
I posted this in the T-Mobile forum some time ago without resolution.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Samsu...l-memory-not-syncing-UP-to-google/td-p/427413
For whatever reason, contacts in the internal memory or on the sim card, don't sync up to google. Contacts will sync down to the phone. As far as I can tell, there are three kinds of contacts: sim, phone, and google. None of these can mix or cross lines in anyway.
Its f'ed up, but you could take your sim card into the store, use another type of phone to sync from sim to google and then all your contacts would be there. Once they are there you are fine and should then save all contacts to google.
I am not sure why this issue hasn't gotten a lot of attention. Perhaps it is just on a view phones or just on a few networks. Not sure.
Sorry, just re-read your message.
Are you sure your display options are selected correctly? You have the option to show only show contacts with phone numbers, to show any or all of the three types.
That might be your problem. I have never had an issue with contacts in the cloud showing on my phone. Its really the other way around for me.
jonjacobmoon said:
Sorry, just re-read your message.
Are you sure your display options are selected correctly? You have the option to show only show contacts with phone numbers, to show any or all of the three types.
That might be your problem. I have never had an issue with contacts in the cloud showing on my phone. Its really the other way around for me.
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yes, when you go to google contacts through your computer and enter a new contact with a number, it should sync with the phone, but it doesn't
what could be wrong?
also how could he check to see if the phone is rooted or not?
^ download terminal emulator from the market and when you open it simply key "su" (no quotation marks). If you are rooted it will return a "#"... this is the absolute easiest method to determine if the phone is rooted.
Go to contacts and display options... uncheck everything but google and show ALL contacts (the check box above this), not just those with phone numbers.
Can he send an email from gmail and it show up pretty quickly on your gmail account? Has he actually logged into his google account on the phone?
Go to contacts and hit menu.
Hit "Display Options"
Make sure that "only contacts with phones" is not selected (just in case)
Also, make sure that "Google" is selected.
If it still doesn't show, go to the home screen, settings, and accounts and sync. Select your google account. When was the last time the contacts synced? If not recently, then select sync now and see if the number shows.
Hope that helps.
thank you, I will have him try this tonight when I chat with him
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^ download terminal emulator from the market and when you open it simply key "su" (no quotation marks). If you are rooted it will return a "#"... this is the absolute easiest method to determine if the phone is rooted.
Go to contacts and display options... uncheck everything but google and show ALL contacts (the check box above this), not just those with phone numbers.
Can he send an email from gmail and it show up pretty quickly on your gmail account? Has he actually logged into his google account on the phone?
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THANK YOU...thank YOU...THANK you.... it worked!!!!!!!!!!!
Has anyone experienced problems using Google Voice Actions (long press the search key) on their Evo over the past 12 hours?
Mine all of a sudden will not pull contact info from Google anymore. My contacts are 100% synced with my Google GMail contacts as I know this is a prerequisite but if I say "Send Text to, Chuck, hey there" instead of putting Chucks name and phone number in the TO box the text is in the body of the message:
Message: Chuck hey there.
Another user over at Google mobile forums has reported the same issue starting last night.
Just wondering how wide spread this is?
Thanks!
Todd
Mine is doing the same exact thing. Mine was working fine and now it's not working. I've posted this same question last night and a few people said it was still working for them. I checked my co-workers evo and his still works. I'm not sure what the problem is. I've tried everything! I flashed a few different roms and even went back to sprint stock and nothing is working. I even created a new gmail account and added a few contacts thinking there was something wrong with my original account and that didn't fix the problem either. Sorry to say it but I'm glad I'm not the only one. It means that it's not my phone and something on google's end. I wonder how many other people this is affecting. Let me know if you find a solution.
Do both of you have your contacts in phone or synced from Google or an Exchange account?
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No contacts on the phone. All are synced with Google. Syncing works fine. Changes happen on both sides. I also sync with an Exchange server for work contacts.
The contacts I use with Voice Actions are only Google (personal) contacts.
Me too. All my contacts are synched with Google. I mean i had it working the other day, but for some reason it just stopped recognizing everyone on my phone book. The weird part is that if I change the voice language to English (UK) instead of (US) I can voice dial but can't "send text to" or "send email to". I posted this in the Google forum and an employee said he was looking into it so I don't know if its a known problem or not. It doesn't seem to be affecting a lot of users of I'd see more traffic to this thread and more complaints. Right now I'm trying out Vlingo. I kind of like it better than Google voice actions.
All working again for me. Google says it was a server issue.
So, I love google voice.
<Back story> I have three Gmail accounts: business, personal, and a junk account. I didn't know there was a limit of it seems two or three times you can tie your phone to a google number. On top of that, my original EVO had to be returned to the store for a defect (i got a new one about 2 months ago)
So I'd love to use google voice again with the account I've already setup (one of my gmails) Problem is when i get to the part of verifying the phone by sending a text message I get "a problem has occured" message from the google voice app.
Some digging on google tells me that my phone number has already been tied to the maximum number of google voice accounts.
Further complicating things (and this one is my own fault) the ONE google voice accoun that I had working on my last phone (a 4th gmail account) I can't remember the password to. This seems to be the account that has the "active" status and would work on my phone if I could just remember the password. It's my junk gmail account, and even password recovery doesnt work.
Anyone got a friendly tip how I can go about getting my original Google voice account setup back on my phone? Is there a particular page on google I can request to have everything wiped out related to my phone and start fresh?
Thanks!
Jeff
Have you tried setting it up on the computer?
yes - anytime I try to setup on a computer it gives me the message "unable to verify number, the phone number you entered is already paired to two google voice accounts"
i guess their limit is two.
The weird thing is while the original phone was physically a different evo, I still have the same cell phone number (using it daily) that I used when I setup my first few google voice accounts.
Its like they just completely forgot to have a "reclaim" feature in their system such that someone can re-pair a phone with their google voice account as long as you verifty ownership of the number, which i totally can.
Go into one of your other numbers and change the main number to a different number. Like home or a friends cell for the time being. Then set up your main on your evo. If you really need 3 GV accounts, you can always get a virtual number for a minimal price. I use 3jam.com.
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