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[Q] SD Android continuation

I have a smal question... I was wondering what will happen to the SD builds now that NAND is out. Are devs gonna disclaim those of us that like to have WM on they'r phone or like me cannot install NAND?
If u think this is not the place for the question feel free to move this

Hopefully die a quick death. By the way, why can't you install mgldr? Also, this is the wrong forum.
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i suspect NAND will work for most 95% of the phones out there
the question is , SD card is old technology but does bring its benefits
backing up, upgrading builds and modifying components were a little easier made from Windows Mobile. Multiple Android boots from different Android Folders as well using Exceller's
well, to me, SD card should perhaps move to the direction of RAM.
and finally NAND only and RAM only builds should conquer.. speed, stability and functionality
Primary Generation : NAND (with some setbacks now)
Secondary Generation : RAM ( with some setbacks now)
Tertiary Generation : SD (with setbacks as well)
they all have their UP and DOWNS, I believe its CHOICE
and if you dont like Android, go with Windows Mobile ! The power to customize is up 2 you
darkstone is working on NAND+RAM, so lets see how that unfolds...

Ahmun_Ra said:
I have a smal question... I was wondering what will happen to the SD builds now that NAND is out. Are devs gonna disclaim those of us that like to have WM on they'r phone or like me cannot install NAND?
If u think this is not the place for the question feel free to move this
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even me would be on the list... as i tried everything possible (combinations of WM ROM/ RADIO /TASK29) to install nand.
magldr does install. but partition send failed is the error on dft installer... and magldr says block 0 , bad crc..
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I'm wondering what's happening to nand roms, not even on first page? just SD builds
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norpan111 said:
I'm wondering what's happening to nand roms, not even on first page? just SD builds
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Probably because there are no or very little problems with the NAND builds so nobody has questions about them.

This is an interesting thread. I am using sd builds too. I'd like to have dual boot too because i need winmo from time to time to use mytinytv. Most recent android builds are now moving to nand. Unless magldr has dual boot options, i'd like to stick with sd builds.
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Do we have the option to run a SD build from mgldr ? Ive had a little go but no boot yet...

norpan111 said:
I'm wondering what's happening to nand roms, not even on first page? just SD builds
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The nand build have their own sub forum. XDA app cannot see that yet. Try to browse in a computer and you'll see.
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norpan111 said:
I'm wondering what's happening to nand roms, not even on first page? just SD builds
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All the nand roms have been moved to its own subforum.
Edit: knew I should've just waited to let somebody else answer

Satyan said:
even me would be on the list... as i tried everything possible (combinations of WM ROM/ RADIO /TASK29) to install nand.
magldr does install. but partition send failed is the error on dft installer... and magldr says block 0 , bad crc..
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I had this problem. After I did the following , flashing nand worked.
1. Flash with task 29
2. Flash stock win mo rom
3. Flash magldr
4. Flash nand rom of choice.
This process has to be done in that order.
I tried different combinations until I found this one to work repeatedly.
Hopefully you figure it out...
Also did you un check allow usb connections in active sync?
Good luck.
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I believe nand is better ,faster and more stable way to have android in our phones but i think that is better to have more than one choises.

personally i do think i NEVER move the build into NAND - as I am still vigorously using the GPS software in the original WM which is too useful to me ... lol
furthermore, backing up all stuff in SD is too easy to me - so I didn't / never think of placing any backup stuff in my android builds... lol

SD RAM will defeat NAND...i guess
I believe that most of the limitation you will incur with NAND have limited chances of been resolved (user space).
I've tested 6 NAND builds, they work fine and they have a lower battery drain compared to SD and SD/RAM release.
Nevertheless most of us want to install apps and unfortunately not all can be moved to SD....so IMHO at the end the most flexible long term solution is SD plus RAM loading (to have the benefits of huge user space and good performance...with a little higher battery consumption)

Well, as much as I love flashing the living crap out of my phones. . . . I quit. . . After I got a perfected WMO and Robot combo running.
My phone runs about 97% perfect. . . Which is just the same if not better then a native Android device.

I currently absolutely want to keep WM on my phone, because I like it but especially because there are a couple of apps for WinMo which I really need. I have bought a HD2 and not an Android phone because I need both systems. Therefore I hope to see that SD Android development goes on, possibly in the RAM direction.

Black Antitoon said:
I currently absolutely want to keep WM on my phone, because I like it but especially because there are a couple of apps for WinMo which I really need. I have bought a HD2 and not an Android phone because I need both systems. Therefore I hope to see that SD Android development goes on, possibly in the RAM direction.
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+1, 100% same case with me.
(and we are not alone... )

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Black Antitoon said:
I currently absolutely want to keep WM on my phone, because I like it but especially because there are a couple of apps for WinMo which I really need. I have bought a HD2 and not an Android phone because I need both systems. Therefore I hope to see that SD Android development goes on, possibly in the RAM direction.
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+10. totaly with you and with SD RAM . So why we have bought HD2 ???
DARKSTONE please continu with SD RAM .

I would be very happy to have some sd/ram build updates in the future. Obviously as we are having the nand boom at the moment, noone should expect sd/ram builds in the next couple of days, I guess.
I love having my energy rom under the android one, especially for my Igo8 navigation. And I still have one of those stupid issues with all the builds when the phone stucks on 60Ma on standby for hours, dont know why. Sd gives the freedom of costumization, great for research, I can save any build in a directory and put it aside.
Thanks for all your hard work and keep up the good work.

Nand has been the holy grail of developement - and so the big, big interest...But in going down the nand route you are losing half the functionality of the phone. So until and unless there is a dual boot option I think I'm going to stick with SD

[Q] Help! I can't boot back to Winmo to Android

Hi to any kind souls out there!
I had just convert my HD2 phone into the Android OS.
I am aware that this phone is able to operate in dual os and i would like to enjoy this, but i can't.
I can't go back to Winmo. Restarting the phone with/without the SD card still brings me to the Android OS(therefore unable to boot to winmo to install JMZ dual boot).
Any help available?
I'm using NexusHD2-Froyo V1.9G NAND.

Sorry to tell you this but you should have done a little more reading about what you were doing, before you did it.
A NAND installation of Android completely wipes WM6.5 from your phone. What you should have been doing was running an SD build of Android (there's 2 different forums for HD2 Android ROMs).
All you can do now is to flash WM6.5 onto your phone again, and then put an SD build of Android on your SD card, if you do want dual boot.

Hi!
it's ok.. i shld have done abit more research.. haha..
so if i want to do a dual boot i have to install the non NAND version say the nexushd2 V1.8? but another qn.. does the dual boot help in anyway? if it's not then i shall forget about it.

naohdragon said:
Hi!
it's ok.. i shld have done abit more research.. haha..
so if i want to do a dual boot i have to install the non NAND version say the nexushd2 V1.8? but another qn.. does the dual boot help in anyway? if it's not then i shall forget about it.
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Heh - thanks is right next to the quote button! So thanks for that
Anyway, I'm glad you're not bothered and can laugh about it. To be honest, if you're not bothered about WM6.5 then I'd just leave it as it is.
If you do want to dual boot then like I said, you'll need to get it back to WM6.5 first, before you think about Android. You can get WM6.5 ROMs here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534 (non US T-Mobile)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=992 (US T-Mobile)
You can get Android SD builds here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=735

johncmolyneux said:
Heh - thanks is right next to the quote button! So thanks for that
Anyway, I'm glad you're not bothered and can laugh about it. To be honest, if you're not bothered about WM6.5 then I'd just leave it as it is.
If you do want to dual boot then like I said, you'll need to get it back to WM6.5 first, before you think about Android. You can get WM6.5 ROMs here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534 (non US T-Mobile)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=992 (US T-Mobile)
You can get Android SD builds here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=735
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Oh wells, i have been tortured quite badly by this dual OS thingy. glad that you answered it for me and saving my time and brain cells.. Thanks! ok, good samaritan, a last help for me?! any ideas to where i could search and read up more about the themes for my phone? it's kinda boring and dull now!! haha!

You'll need to get a new launcher if you want to start theming the phone. ADW Launcher is a popular choice (not my preferred launcher), and it can be themed. There's TONS of themes for it, both free and paid. The app is also free, but I believe there is a paid version with more features. All this is available on the Market.
Hope this helps mate

Thank you so much!! I shall explore it when i after i get my sleep.. it's almost 2am here. haha!! once again thanks for your help! good night!!

naohdragon said:
Thank you so much!! I shall explore it when i after i get my sleep.. it's almost 2am here. haha!! once again thanks for your help! good night!!
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No worries matey. Happy sleeps
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[Q] what is recommended for me?

i need to change my software i mean that i need to try new things
some one tell me what is recommended
my hd2 is on it's original sittings
i didn't change a rom or any thing
so now what is recommended for me
can i update my windows 6.5 to windows 7
or it will be better to try a new rom only or what
some one tell me which is better and how to do that
sorry if my English was bad

U can also try out Android.

Nilee said:
U can also try out Android.
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in your opinion which is better
to still on wm 6.5 and try another rom
or to update it to wp 7
or to try Android
??????????????

Roushdii said:
in your opinion which is better
to still on wm 6.5 and try another rom
or to update it to wp 7
or to try Android
??????????????
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Or you can do dualboot wp7 and android like I'm doing. Hopefully soon we will be able to triboot all 3.
It depends on what you want. They are all great OS's. But to run either android or wp7 on your HD2 it will take a lot of reading to learn how to do it and set them up good, because they are ports, so they won't necessarily work great right away. You'll want to set them up good so they don't drain your battery too quick and work around any little issues that may pop up. You should do some reading about both those os's and about how to boot them on your phone, then decide what you want to do. If you're not very experienced with your phone, you should probably just start out with flashing a custom rom and go from there. A step at a time until you're comfortable enough to install magldr and flash android or wp7. You can try them all out and see what you like best. All the info you need is in these forums.

zarathustrax said:
Or you can do dualboot wp7 and android like I'm doing. Hopefully soon we will be able to triboot all 3.
It depends on what you want. They are all great OS's. But to run either android or wp7 on your HD2 it will take a lot of reading to learn how to do it and set them up good, because they are ports, so they won't necessarily work great right away. You'll want to set them up good so they don't drain your battery too quick and work around any little issues that may pop up. You should do some reading about both those os's and about how to boot them on your phone, then decide what you want to do. If you're not very experienced with your phone, you should probably just start out with flashing a custom rom and go from there. A step at a time until you're comfortable enough to install magldr and flash android or wp7. You can try them all out and see what you like best. All the info you need is in these forums.
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thanks alot for your help
i will try acustom rom first
but i'd be grateful if you have a link for a threat to treat me how to install win 7 and android together

Roushdii said:
thanks alot for your help
i will try acustom rom first
but i'd be grateful if you have a link for a threat to treat me how to install win 7 and android together
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Go to this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=945565

I recommend you try them out.

I would recommend you to try out an android rom, becuase what can you can do on wp7 is really limited, and I think that wp7 is boring (my opinion). If you need help with installing or something feel free to ask

[Q] Easiest to follow Android on HD2 guide?

I've read through most of the guides now & to be honest don't understand a lot of them & as well as which my HD2 is (was) UK TMobile & factory unlocked then debranded (after a lot of help on here) by me
I'm not a complete idiot (close to) when it comes to technical things but this is my first HTC phone & I was considering selling it for the Desire HD when I read that the HD2 with the WP7 Android software was every bit as good.
I can see there are two versions one being on an SD card & one using the phones memory. Is there a very simple guide or should I steer clear?
Thanks for your help in advance guys
Junks

I also would like to know since i just pick up a HD2 as my backup phone. I would prefer to have android and no windows on this phone.
I'm very familiar with flashing and android since my primary phone is a Vibrant.
sorry for hijacking your thread OP since i see no reason to create another thread asking almost the same question.

Blkegk said:
I also would like to know since i just pick up a HD2 as my backup phone. I would prefer to have android and no windows on this phone.
I'm very familiar with flashing and android since my primary phone is a Vibrant.
sorry for hijacking your thread OP since i see no reason to create another thread asking almost the same question.
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No probs matey

I'm new to this too but I understand that you can run Android on your SD card (at least 4gb class 4 Sandisc from what I read - although I opted for 16gb Class 4 MicroSDHC for about £15) if you want to keep Winmo on your phone system.
NAND builds replace your winmo operating system completely.
I read its not a bad idea to keep androis on SD as you can use Winmo to update builds that may have bugs or improvements.
I see today that there's a guy buidling a multi-android boot up so as your phone starts I guess you can choose Winmo or choose from a few android builds, depending on what each build gives you.
Some builds have everything but are slow, some are thin on features but fast.
I'm yet to install one so I can't speak with any knowledge - I'm hoping to do it today using this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881958
Good luck.
Cheers

Thanks for that Darrell, I had read that guide but had been told that installing on the SD cards slowed up the phone so was really after installing on the phones memory

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
might want to read that if you havent already

Thanks Richy - hadn't seen that one!

I'm thinking of getting an HD2 phone used to install Android too. I'd probably want to run it on the SD so that WM6.5 or WP7 can be run on the NAND.
Where did you read it was slower on the SD ?

Junks666 said:
I've read through most of the guides now & to be honest don't understand a lot of them & as well as which my HD2 is (was) UK TMobile & factory unlocked then debranded (after a lot of help on here) by me
I'm not a complete idiot (close to) when it comes to technical things but this is my first HTC phone & I was considering selling it for the Desire HD when I read that the HD2 with the WP7 Android software was every bit as good.
I can see there are two versions one being on an SD card & one using the phones memory. Is there a very simple guide or should I steer clear?
Thanks for your help in advance guys
Junks
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Give this a try ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981811

The only limitation of that FAQ is that it doesn't have a clockworkmod guide which some of the NAND roms use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898913

WarlockW said:
Give this a try ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981811
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Thanks Warlock - I don't understand that at all!! lol
Ok I've found a guide that I can follow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11215136&postcount=8
Two things if someone can help please though
I've decide on either JDMS or PRJ Build Nands but.............
1. I can't find out how to downgrade from SPL-3.03 or find the relevant files?
2. I've just managed to debrand the phone using HSPL2, will this affect anything or the steps which have to be done?
Thanks guys

[Q] HD2 Advice...

Hey guys, i'll make this post as breif as possible.
I recently aquired an HTC HD2 which I love. It came pre-installed with windows phone 7 however for the past month i've been running android from the SD card. I've only booted WPH for aabout 10 mins max!
Im just wondering if someone can link me to a guide/ advise me of the best way to install android to the NAND, overwriting WPH7. I/ve read about the HD2 NAND toolkit, could I use this & this alone?
I'd like to option to try WPH7 again in the future but for now, I'd like a nice stable gingerbread rom on it. THe device has MagLDR 1.13 installed on it.
Can someone help me? I;ve previousy owned a ZTE blade which I converted to GEN2 & ran gingerbread/cyanogenMOD quite happily so I'm not 100% noob.
THanks. (sorry if i've asked in the wrong place.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948

Thanks dude, that looks like all I need. Is it exactly the same regardless of the fact I already have WP7 on there?

cardyology said:
Thanks dude, that looks like all I need. Is it exactly the same regardless of the fact I already have WP7 on there?
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start from #2 because you already have magldr on there.
Also note to get your SD card back to where you want it you have to put it in a card reader on your PC and repartition it to fat32.