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[Q] Still confused about Android, really don't know what to do?!?!

I'm still really confused. People are telling me to flash a different radio for android... then install Linux drivers or whatever, do I really have to install all this?!!? I thought it was just running Haret.exe and it works...
If anyone has individual guides for these would be great.... I'm really beyond confusion with this.
I basically just wanna dual boot the 2.1 Sense ROM (The best one, with good battery life etc.) and have everything working. If there is a particular guide, or several guides for this and someone could them to me in order I would be so greatful... because I really have no idea what I'm doing.
Also on a T-Mobile UK HD2, if that changes anything.

Just put a build on your SD card download an Android boot loader then run it simple as no need to change radio or anything else
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

If your really having trouble with it, then usually all I'd say is READ all of the stickies, all the info you could ever want on the subject and brings you to being in the exellent position of knowing almost everything. If not, take this link and call me in the morning
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
I do wish i could leave it there, but the OP of that thread has disappeared and isn't supporting the latest developments, but that tells you to download an Android build a ROM and a radio (oh, and a dual boot program). Those are the core components, If you wanna switch builds, you just change your SDcard whenever you do so desire. But you don't get much information on jacking round with the Kernel, this can provide quick upgrades to hardware (such as.... getting the lightsensor working in the future) without changing builds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719646
that should give you base knowledge of all things XDAndroid (a few posts down on the second link mind you). Hope this helps

JccageX2 said:
I'm still really confused. People are telling me to flash a different radio for android... then install Linux drivers or whatever, do I really have to install all this?!!? I thought it was just running Haret.exe and it works...
If anyone has individual guides for these would be great.... I'm really beyond confusion with this.
I basically just wanna dual boot the 2.1 Sense ROM (The best one, with good battery life etc.) and have everything working. If there is a particular guide, or several guides for this and someone could them to me in order I would be so greatful... because I really have no idea what I'm doing.
Also on a T-Mobile UK HD2, if that changes anything.
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Here is the crash course for you...
* It is the best to learn how to get Android on your phone and test different builds yourself for your taste - so, what makes you happy keep that build I guess.
I have T-Mobile USA HD2 am using FroyoStone Series V1 build and everything works just fine. Auto Killer App puts battery in comparable position with my WinMo and therefore I am using now Android full-time for the past week or so - not a single SOD, freeze, etc. - it simply works just fine.
How to get Android on your HD2? Find compatible build for your UK HD2 version by reading stickies and doing a little bit of homework researching xda forum.
Then once you find the build:
1. Download it... it will be packed into archive most likely (rar, zip, 7z, etc)
2. Froyo builds go usually into one folder "Android" - as packed just copy folder Android into the root of your SD card on your phone.
3. Open it up through File Explorer, start/click CLRCAD.exe - you will see no action and that's fine - this makes sure your sound works fine... then, start/click haret.exe...
4. Leave it to boot - first boot is bit longer but it should boot in less than couple of minutes or something like that (depends on the build).
5. DO WATCH what the lines state - if there is anything like "failed to mount, blah blah" or any other possible failure to load something - come back and start searching for solution on these forums... You should be fine (however, I do not offer any guarantee as any of the build makers).
The rest is pretty easy - run Android, play with it and see if you like it...
Note: To change builds, it is very simple... Just delete Android Folder from SD Card root and you are ready to download and install (copy over) another "Android folder" into the root of the build you have downloaded.
Cheers mate!

Okay, so there isn't need for flashing Radio's etc. then? Literally just running the files?
I can't even download the ROM's, not downloading I'll try again later though.

Most of the rom builders recommend upgrading to the most recent radio. There seem to be fewer issues with SOD, robo voice, etc vs older radios. That said, YMMV so try it out with what you have now. If you have problems try to out newer radios or WinMO roms built to run android. Good luck.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

There is a "defenite guide to android" on the forum. I was just like you but followed those steps exactly and now.I'm running android no problem. Just make sure you read up on everything. Its not gonna be as simple as dragging and dropping but it isn't extremely hard.
Sent from my Nexus One HD2 using XDA App

im just confused on android . what is the best one to get ?. im running energy dinik rom .
and im just not that sure about it yet . dont want to bugger my phone up tryin a android.

.BetaBoy said:
There is a "defenite guide to android" on the forum. I was just like you but followed those steps exactly and now.I'm running android no problem. Just make sure you read up on everything. Its not gonna be as simple as dragging and dropping but it isn't extremely hard.
Sent from my Nexus One HD2 using XDA App
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Okay, has anyone got a link to this guide?
Also, how do I change my Radio, and can it harm my device if I do?

the definitive guide to android is here the radio thread here...this helps as well...

JccageX2 said:
I'm still really confused. People are telling me to flash a different radio for android... then install Linux drivers or whatever, do I really have to install all this?!!? I thought it was just running Haret.exe and it works...
If anyone has individual guides for these would be great.... I'm really beyond confusion with this.
I basically just wanna dual boot the 2.1 Sense ROM (The best one, with good battery life etc.) and have everything working. If there is a particular guide, or several guides for this and someone could them to me in order I would be so greatful... because I really have no idea what I'm doing.
Also on a T-Mobile UK HD2, if that changes anything.
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SIMPLIFIED GUIDE

[Q] Newbs Q's for Stock HD2 running 2.2 from SD.

I have a stock HD2 running Blue Topia from a class 10 SD card on Tmo in the US. Is there a way to upgrade the "radios" without rooting? Will that help low / no signal in a few locations. Everything works great except in those locations. A new My Touch has better signal in those locations. I don't know if that's hardware or software though?
Is there a benefit Rooting my HD2 & running Android from internal memory instead of the SD card? The SD seems plenty fast to me? Also does Clockwork Mod have any use when running from the SD?
Lastly what is Nand? Is that different from "rooted"?
Thank you very much for putting up with & answering all my Newb Q's

you are in the wrong forum...
There is a Q&A section for the HD2... Try searching for the answers before posting... all the questions you asked have been addressed before...

ShortySk8n said:
I have a stock HD2 running Blue Topia from a class 10 SD card on Tmo in the US. Is there a way to upgrade the "radios" without rooting? Will that help low / no signal in a few locations. Everything works great except in those locations. A new My Touch has better signal in those locations. I don't know if that's hardware or software though?
Is there a benefit Rooting my HD2 & running Android from internal memory instead of the SD card? The SD seems plenty fast to me? Also does Clockwork Mod have any use when running from the SD?
Lastly what is Nand? Is that different from "rooted"?
Thank you very much for putting up with & answering all my Newb Q's
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Best radio in my opinion for low signals is 2.15.50.14
Running from internal memory has speed advantages.. android loads way faster and is more responsive in my opinion.... also sd cards do get messed up from all the garbage files that end up being put there and that leads to problems with them and the only solution is reformating them all over
NAND is the way all phones run when originally purchased running from phones internal memory
Rooting your phone means giving yourself root, or superuser access, giving you access to system files and the ability to change things that normally are marked read only itallows you to change all kinds of things that normally you wouldn't be able to, along with install custom versions of Android.

ShortySk8n said:
I have a stock HD2 running Blue Topia from a class 10 SD card on Tmo in the US. Is there a way to upgrade the "radios" without rooting? Will that help low / no signal in a few locations. Everything works great except in those locations. A new My Touch has better signal in those locations. I don't know if that's hardware or software though?
Is there a benefit Rooting my HD2 & running Android from internal memory instead of the SD card? The SD seems plenty fast to me? Also does Clockwork Mod have any use when running from the SD?
Lastly what is Nand? Is that different from "rooted"?
Thank you very much for putting up with & answering all my Newb Q's
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Cut him a break these terms can be confusing to new users.
If you want to update or change your radio you simply re flash it in Windows like you did the first time. I am not sure if this will solve reception issues. It's worth a shot. Please let us know how it goes.
Rooting is not the same as NAND. Rooting refers to giving the user total access to change hidden files in the system of the phone. Blue topia is already rooted.
NAND refers to flashing an Android ROM directly to the phones memory, thereby making it a native Android phone (allowing you to use SD card for apps and such).
I don't think clockwork mod has any use on RAM builds.
Please read and search before posting questions, as these have been answered before.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

spyderman33 said:
you are in the wrong forum...
There is a Q&A section for the HD2... Try searching for the answers before posting... all the questions you asked have been addressed before...
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My apologies for posting in the wrong place. Anyone who knows far more then I can move this to the right place, Or delete it if you wish. I did try searching for my answers before posting these questions. But I know about as much about navigating this website as I do about Radios, Nand & Rooting & was unable to find the answers to my questions. If someone can put links in here to those other answers they would be very helpful.
Thank you for your patience
PS. Doesn't
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* [Q] Newbs Q's for Stock HD2 running 2.2 from SD
Mean this was posted it the Q&A for HD2 Android? I'm honestly asking? Because the 1st comment said I posted in the wrong place. Also it took me multiple tries to get back to this post.

casemandan said:
Best radio in my opinion for low signals is 2.15.50.14
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Where would I find that radio? If you could give me a link I would be grateful. (edit: I found the radio thread) One of the other posts said to replace the radio in Win MO 6.5? If I'm running Blue Topia from a SD card, Does the Blue Topia have the radio software? Or is it using the Radio software from Win mo 6.5?
The other thing I have learned since this original post is that the loss of signal is a lot more often then 1st thought. Before noticing this problem I loaded Gingerbread onto my SD card (I copy things back & forth PC to SD & a backup of last known good Blue Topia) Ran it for a short time then loaded my backup copy of Blue Topia back on the SD. Wiping it clean each time but not reformatting it. That's when I started noticing signal problems after trying Gingerbread. I don't know if the 2 are related?
casemandan said:
Running from internal memory has speed advantages.. android loads way faster and is more responsive in my opinion.... also sd cards do get messed up from all the garbage files that end up being put there and that leads to problems with them and the only solution is reformating them all over
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If I'm happy with the responsiveness? Is that the only reason to run it internally? Other then the garbage files. & won't the garbage files just end up on the internal memory? Also won't having a last known good on the PC help me dump those garbage files?
Thank you very much for all your help

Hi! Semi-New to forum... Need help on Android 2.3.4 for HD2!

Hey everyone.. If theres any thread that thoroughly explains how to install Android 2.3.4 please direct me and help me out! If not, please help me out on this thread of my own.
I'm seeking to flash Android 2.3.4 on my HTC HD2(T-Mobile USA). I'm a total noob with flashing but i see some videos and things like that on youtube. I dont know whats going on in those videos and how they do it. Right now im on Windows Mobile 6.5(sad).. I want to upgrade to Android 2.3.4 because it seems to unleash the phone's full potential right?
I'd really like to have the best Android 2.3.4 ROM and not some laggy full of bloatware Android ROM. I like performance i hate it when my phone is skippy, sluggish and laggy. I see the Cyanogenmod7(CM7) on the HTC HD2s.. Is there anything better than that(performance wise and software compatibility)?
Need some help and direction where to go and some information on whats going on and how to do this! Please and thanks a lot!

All the information you need is in the sticky topics or via the search button.
Also you should get this, It will make things easier for you.
btw since you are semi-new you wont have been presented with the new XDA video upon signup, please watch this and take note, please dont be offended, watch it all the way through as it has valuable information.

Hi,
I don't think I will ever tire of seeing that video.
Plus this is worth checking out too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948

Hahaha thanks for the video. I understand the "answers may already be out there". Its a rule for mostly any forum(this is not the only one i visit). Ill check out what you guys have gave me and go on from there thanks a lot!

Ok, wait wait wait now whoa..
NAND vs SD? These are two different ways to install the Android ROM.
How is the stock WinMo 6.5 installed? Obviously not SD. NAND right? Or is it installed some totally different way?
All this seems really confusing to me >.< sorry for being a noob i cant help it, im trying to learn though i want to see my HD2 looking at me with an Android OS saying "Free at last! Free at last!"
PS: Whats MAGLDR and cLK???

hyrule571 said:
Ok, wait wait wait now whoa..
NAND vs SD? These are two different ways to install the Android ROM.
How is the stock WinMo 6.5 installed? Obviously not SD. NAND right? Or is it installed some totally different way?
All this seems really confusing to me >.< sorry for being a noob i cant help it, im trying to learn though i want to see my HD2 looking at me with an Android OS saying "Free at last! Free at last!"
PS: Whats MAGLDR and cLK???
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HI,
I think you should be aiming for a NAND system(faster and more stable...no WM involved )
Be prepared for A LOT of reading...
Start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
then check my sig...guide number 2 (I would go for MAGLDR to begin with)
use this tool to install task 29,HSPL, magldr and CWM partition.
Check here for ROMS:
http://android.hd2roms.com/
Remember:
The more you read,the more you will understand,the fewer mistakes you will make.

Lol its okay about the reading, if i get useful information and knowledge that i actually am interested in i'd keep reading =]
The sad thing is.. I'm reading about cLK and MAGLDR...
MAGLDR on the HTC HD2 will use RMNET, which gives a more stable data connection, but with packet loss(slower speed). While cLK gives faster connection(i dont think theres packet loss obviously), but the connection is not as stable and could freeze up Android. Plus, both MAGLDR and cLK are just different types of ROMs but both can be for Android, and in order to change from a MAGLDR to a cLK ROM you need to re-flash the whole device to the desired ROM.. Correct? (read carefully if its mixing you up, sorry)
Thats what my brain has taken in and gotten out of reading various threads and posts throughout the forum. That is accurate and true correct?

hyrule571 said:
Lol its okay about the reading, if i get useful information and knowledge that i actually am interested in i'd keep reading =]
The sad thing is.. I'm reading about cLK and MAGLDR...
MAGLDR on the HTC HD2 will use RMNET, which gives a more stable data connection, but with packet loss(slower speed). While cLK gives faster connection(i dont think theres packet loss obviously), but the connection is not as stable and could freeze up Android. Plus, both MAGLDR and cLK are just different types of ROMs but both can be for Android, and in order to change from a MAGLDR to a cLK ROM you need to re-flash the whole device to the desired ROM.. Correct? (read carefully if its mixing you up, sorry)
Thats what my brain has taken in and gotten out of reading various threads and posts throughout the forum. That is accurate and true correct?
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Hi,
OK.MAGLDR and cLK are different bootloaders.clk is more android friendly because it is native andoid,but there might be packet loss (this might be avoidable with the use of "wrappers",but I have only read this...I use magldr)
I suggested magldr cos its easier..end of.
Ksubedi has been very busy in the past couple of days simplifying the whole bootloader
situation.Check here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090783
He has also simplified the process of installing and switching between magldr and clk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111081
To sum up the choice is yours.
Magldr has got a game of Tetris you can play.
With cLK, you can charge the phone when its off.

So i might as well not flash any ROMs yet from Android since they are still defected in some ways. Thats lame =\
What about Windows Phone 7? Are there any defuncts on that ROM too?

hyrule571 said:
So i might as well not flash any ROMs yet from Android since they are still defected in some ways. Thats lame =\
What about Windows Phone 7? Are there any defuncts on that ROM too?
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Hi,
Quitting already?
I thought you wanted your phone to come alive.HD2 was made for android.
Just choose a bootloader, go to the list I showed you ,pick a 2.3.4 like Hyperdroid and flash it. At least try it.Wm7 isn't perfect either.
Sent from my Imitation Sensation!

[Q] HD2 Advice...

Hey guys, i'll make this post as breif as possible.
I recently aquired an HTC HD2 which I love. It came pre-installed with windows phone 7 however for the past month i've been running android from the SD card. I've only booted WPH for aabout 10 mins max!
Im just wondering if someone can link me to a guide/ advise me of the best way to install android to the NAND, overwriting WPH7. I/ve read about the HD2 NAND toolkit, could I use this & this alone?
I'd like to option to try WPH7 again in the future but for now, I'd like a nice stable gingerbread rom on it. THe device has MagLDR 1.13 installed on it.
Can someone help me? I;ve previousy owned a ZTE blade which I converted to GEN2 & ran gingerbread/cyanogenMOD quite happily so I'm not 100% noob.
THanks. (sorry if i've asked in the wrong place.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948

Thanks dude, that looks like all I need. Is it exactly the same regardless of the fact I already have WP7 on there?

cardyology said:
Thanks dude, that looks like all I need. Is it exactly the same regardless of the fact I already have WP7 on there?
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start from #2 because you already have magldr on there.
Also note to get your SD card back to where you want it you have to put it in a card reader on your PC and repartition it to fat32.

NAND vs. SD method

Hi
A friend of mine asked me if I could put Android on his HD2 as he bought one with German language and he doesn't understand anything at all. Now we wan't to completely remove Windows Mobile 6.5.x from the phone and install Android. ICS with HTC sense is prefered but and older version will also do.
I have found multiple tutorials, but I wonder which method is the best. NAND or SD?
At this point in time we don't have any SD-card in the phone, so I asume the Sd method isn't usable. But which method and ROM is the best to use if we want to be able to switch language and want Android experience as close to the HTC android phones as possible.
Are there any bugs with the HD2 in Android? I've heard that there should be problems with the sound when calling people, and the data-connection should be unstable as well. Are these rumors still current or have they been solved?

CTSRP said:
Hi
A friend of mine asked me if I could put Android on his HD2 as he bought one with German language and he doesn't understand anything at all. Now we wan't to completely remove Windows Mobile 6.5.x from the phone and install Android. ICS with HTC sense is prefered but and older version will also do.
I have found multiple tutorials, but I wonder which method is the best. NAND or SD?
At this point in time we don't have any SD-card in the phone, so I asume the Sd method isn't usable. But which method and ROM is the best to use if we want to be able to switch language and want Android experience as close to the HTC android phones as possible.
Are there any bugs with the HD2 in Android? I've heard that there should be problems with the sound when calling people, and the data-connection should be unstable as well. Are these rumors still current or have they been solved?
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Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information

adil1508 said:
Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information
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Thanks for the quick reply. I will read further on how to install using NAND method. But how big should the SD-card be. As said he doesn't have a SD-card in his phone. I have one but it's only 128MB, so not a whole lot. If the phone was using the MiniSD cards instead of microSD I had a 1GB card. But isn't it possible to get a Gingerbread HTC Sense ROM and then extract and repack it on the PC so it can fit the 128MB card. Or are the packed ROM's small enough to fit on a 128MB card?

Tell your friend to invest in about 4GB or more, once you've got a few apps, video video clips, music files and recovery backups then the 4GB will be eaten fairly fast imo. If you grab a class 6 card you can get one for less then $1/GB (aud).

parker09 said:
Tell your friend to invest in about 4GB or more, once you've got a few apps, video video clips, music files and recovery backups then the 4GB will be eaten fairly fast imo. If you grab a class 6 card you can get one for less then $1/GB (aud).
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Sure I'll tell him that. But will the installationsfiles for Android fit on my 128MB card?

CTSRP said:
Sure I'll tell him that. But will the installationsfiles for Android fit on my 128MB card?
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No.

CTSRP said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I will read further on how to install using NAND method. But how big should the SD-card be. As said he doesn't have a SD-card in his phone. I have one but it's only 128MB, so not a whole lot. If the phone was using the MiniSD cards instead of microSD I had a 1GB card. But isn't it possible to get a Gingerbread HTC Sense ROM and then extract and repack it on the PC so it can fit the 128MB card. Or are the packed ROM's small enough to fit on a 128MB card?
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Dont forget the thanks button
Anyways, basically the sd card is used to put the rom in and all music, pics, apps etc. will be stored on the sd card. plus, the 128 mb card will not hold the rom. Some files of the rom are installed on the sd card as well(some) so yeah, like the above user said, invest in a class 4 sd card with a fairly high amount of memory.

try the link below, it could give you an idea

You will need an SD card anyhow as mentioned before. Not only for flashing it to Nand, also some ROMs needs an ext(2 or 3) partition on the SD card. Specially when it's an EU device as yours might seems.
F.e.: I got an EU model and the great Energy ROM running - this needs a 1Gb ext(2 or 3) partition on the SD card!
-> It depends on the ROM of your choice.
Right now, I guess there is now ICS ROM with sense out there - or an I wrong?
I can definetly recommend the NRG ROM as this one runs really great. There is also a very good lashing instruction in its thread.
Good luck :good:

Ooh, ooh, me too!!
adil1508 said:
Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information
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I also want to completely remove winmo6.5 from my wife's stock UK HTC HD2 and put some form of Android OS on it so I can then get her Ovivo Mobile mobile connection to work (I'm not bothered about dual boot functionality). Could you quickly link to a guide you would recommend to do this ("Thanks" will always be given :good: ).
(Note: I had an HD2 once, and bricked it after 9 months of ownership with a dodgy radio, so I'm a bit once-bitten-twice-shy about doing it).

shaggydabbydo said:
I also want to completely remove winmo6.5 from my wife's stock UK HTC HD2 and put some form of Android OS on it so I can then get her Ovivo Mobile mobile connection to work (I'm not bothered about dual boot functionality). Could you quickly link to a guide you would recommend to do this ("Thanks" will always be given :good: ).
(Note: I had an HD2 once, and bricked it after 9 months of ownership with a dodgy radio, so I'm a bit once-bitten-twice-shy about doing it).
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Here is my favourite guide. It's incredibly simple. You should really search before posting though, it isn't difficult to find.

Thanks
Nigeldg said:
Here is my favourite guide. It's incredibly simple. You should really search before posting though, it isn't difficult to find.
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Thanks (and "thanks" added). I did search [and read the "sticky") but there were lots and I got confused as to which one. I'll give the one you recommend a go (which incidentaly did not come up in my [brief] search. :good:

shaggydabbydo said:
(which incidentaly did not come up in my [brief] search. :good:
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Ah, you see, it shouldn't be [brief] but [thorough]

Nigeldg said:
Ah, you see, it shouldn't be [brief] but [thorough]
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Ah, but I would have been thoroughly confused with a thorough search, fortunatly I was only briefly confused .