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[Q] A beginner that needs help!!

Hello all,
I have got a HTC HD2 phone with WM 6.5 T.Mobile version and the question is: Do I have to remove the current WM 6.5 that is installed on my phone in order to install Android? if yes, is there a way to backup the windows and everything installed on it including the messages and the names stored? If no, is it 100% guranteed that the WM will work perfectly with Android? Which version of Android is most stable with everything working perfectly? Also I need to know the exact tips of installing. You may laugh when I tell you that I need to install Android because there is a game being released for Android and not for WM this game is ANGRY BIRDS you have no idea how I'm glad I will be able to play it as my friend got an iphone and he doesnt want me to play it with his phone
So people, I know these are alot of questions but, all of us began this way. Thank you for understanding.
Michael

Usually these type of questions get the "do some research yourself" treatment, but i'm such a nice guy, so here i go:
No, WM stays. Android boots from SD card.
But, to get Android to boot right you have to upgrade you phone a bit. Well, a lot actually. You have to make your phone able to do other things than just stock WM. (Upgrade SPL). Change the Radio (part of the "bios"), change the WM to something better, and then at last you'll be able to use your Android.
These steps are usually done once, and then you'll be able to change your Android version easily later.
But still, it's all worth it
Good luck

The short answer to your question is 'yes', you will need to 'uninstall' WM 6.5 to use Android.
You will need to 'flash' another ROM, which will replace WM 6.5 as you know it. You can always revert back to the stock version in the future.
You might also need to flash another radio (depending on which version you have already).
There is no single 'best' version of Android right now. There are several, each being updated constantly. In broad terms, you can choose from a HTC Sense version, or a stock Android (Froyo) version.
You are asking too many questions to talk you through the process here. I am using the following:
ROM - Chuckydroid
Radio - 2.12.50.xx
Android - Bangsters V1.3
You will need to search and learn if you wish to progress.
One word of advice - read and follow all instructions carefully!

nobnut said:
The short answer to your question is 'yes', you will need to 'uninstall' WM 6.5 to use Android.
You will need to 'flash' another ROM, which will replace WM 6.5 as you know it. You can always revert back to the stock version in the future.
You might also need to flash another radio (depending on which version you have already).
what the hell..............you dont "uninstall" anything, and no..you dont need to flash any rom...stock is fine...just need radio >2.08.50
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Hey
You are speaking mysteries guys
Here are the details of my OS
OS version: 5.2.21889
ROM version: 2.10.531.1
RADIO version: 2.08.50.08_2
What should I do? Another question: Isn't the OS WM I have a registered version from Microsoft? Or it doesn't matter I can install any version?
Another thing, I did try searching and asking a lot of questions to know the answers I'm asking about it here. But the thing is that people talk about an advanced things and I need to start from the beginning.
Thanks guys for being patience with me, I really appreciate it.
Michael

I will follow this one... I am still trying to get anything. Tried Froyo's on stock by just putting it on the SD card... but it says: Jumping to kernal, so that wont work really well.
Maybe someone could write a clear How-To to just get a Android instal.. I am very curious.

Don't think you guys will get massive amounts if help in here but firstly search for hspl read how to install it, read all steps carefully there is a full step by step guide, then you need to upgrade to latest radio again just search on xda and you will find s step by step guide, then you will need to update the windows mobile Rom process is same as installing a new radio.
Then you will need to download an android build, hyperdroid is very stable,
Android runs purely is your SD card like a virtual machine on your pc,
Spend an hour or two reading,
It's not really a complicated process once you've read around a bit
Sent from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk

Wow all these threads asking the same questions. All these members asking us to break it down Barney style!
Look none of this stuff is hard!
They have done most of the hard work for you. All you have to do is read the instructions on the forums!
You don't need Barney to read it to you. You dont need instructions in the form of a cat in the hat book.
I am challenging you to research for yourself!
Give me a honest effort and if that doesn't work you can private message me! But you had better done your home work!
Even if I don't use the rom I read the threads. I follow dcordes,shu8i, cotulla,cyanogen and anyone else with info on twitter. I read most if not all the threads. I am not smart. So if I can do it you can too.
Forgive me for being candid I just felt it needed to be said!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

hazard99 said:
Wow all these threads asking the same questions. All these members asking us to break it down Barney style!
Look none of this stuff is hard!
They have done most of the hard work for you. All you have to do is read the instructions on the forums!
You don't need Barney to read it to you. You dont need instructions in the form of a cat in the hat book.
I am challenging you to research for yourself!
Give me a honest effort and if that doesn't work you can private message me! But you had better done your home work!
Even if I don't use the rom I read the threads. I follow dcordes,shu8i, cotulla,cyanogen and anyone else with info on twitter. I read most if not all the threads. I am not smart. So if I can do it you can too.
Forgive me for being candid I just felt it needed to be said!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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All the work has been done for us already
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Thanks
Thanks hazard99 and whynot66 I think I need to make more search.
Michael

Guys, is it alright if i ask a question?
Why is it not right if we run stock rom with froyostone and radio 12?

Some say it causes problems with the audio. I say bull but I am not running stock winmo. I've always used energy roms. And haven't had a problem!
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what are the good things using energy roms?

Well it. Use to be I liked the look and speed and stability. I don't use winmo at all anymore!
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superjjskate said:
Guys, is it alright if i ask a question?
Why is it not right if we run stock rom with froyostone and radio 12?
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I am using Froyostone builds on my stock 1.66 WWE ROM.
All i did to get android running is a new HSPL and a compatible radio.
I have never flashed any custom/cooked ROM on my device.
It runs smoothly on the stock rom and have had no major issues at all..!!
All the best!

Need some help with an Andoird build for my dad.

Hi
First off all I want to say: I can probably find everything here in the forum but I'll spend hours and hours reading and most off the time I'll read useless info that I don't need so if you have the knowledge and it just takes 5 minutes to share it please help me out I'll be thankful.
I myself have a HTC legend and have read LOTS off posts before finally rooting and flashing custom roms. Now my dad has asked me if I could help him to get android on his HD2.
He needs to be able to sync his agenda with outlook (for work (Calendar and contacts) I read something about HTC sync should be working on newer kernels is it included in some builds then?), and have a stable build (its not a ROM if I'm correct?) one that he could use for daily use. Don't need anything too special (not even root but its not a problem if it does have root access)
So I've started reading around in the development section and from what I read I don't need to root or flash anything, just extract a zip to the SD and name it Android. Is that correct? (then why do you have special android roms?)
So is there someone who can link me to a good stable (no OC kernels and stuff please) Android Build and tell me if there are known bugs with HD2 builds that don't get mentioned in those threats because they are known as general knowledge.
Thanks in advance
If I could ever help you back with HTC legend problem or something I'll gladly do it for you.
grts
Jonas (sorry for the pour English it's not my main language)
I'm reading topics and If I find answers I'll update this but please if you have the knowledge to help me in a few minutes PLEASE do so.

Never mind found this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782930
and solved most of my questions looks like its not as fully operating as I thought :s.
So It's not just as easy as unzipping and renaming that would have been too easy.

It isn't very complicated to run android on the HD2. I don't know what feature you suspect isn't working that scared you from attempting. Every feature I could want is working. You also don't need to sacrifice windows mobile if you try android. Give it a shot and post again if you have trouble.

Problem is that I need to root and flash other wm Rom if I want everything to work as it should. Or isn't that really necessary? I'll just try a build and see what it does. Thx for th reply
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JonasDroid said:
Problem is that I need to root and flash other wm Rom if I want everything to work as it should. Or isn't that really necessary? I'll just try a build and see what it does. Thx for th reply
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if you have to hspl your hd2 depends on your stock radio rom version. it should be a newer one like 2.10 or 2.12 to avoid most issues with android. flashing another winmo rom is only necessary if you have robot voice and/or faster playback of music (just to mention 2 problems)... you don't have anything to loose if you try android from stock hd2. if it's not working fine, you may think of flashing a new radio and/or rom!

So if I unzip the file I can dowload here put it into android folder in the root of my SD, I'm good to go? What about that kernel do I need to flash it??

if he uses it for work then i'd suggest laying off android for now

he could still use the WM? It's just like a program no? So by just removing the folder it would be back to normal?

JonasDroid said:
he could still use the WM? It's just like a program no? So by just removing the folder it would be back to normal?
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You basically reboot the phone and it goes back to wmo. Its almost like running a live linux cd...

When you run HaRet Android takes over the phone. When you reboot it will come back to WinMo. Then you run HaRet again and you back in Android. And so on. WinMo 'lives' on the phone, Android on sd.

So the kernel they are talking about is a fake kernel? (not flashed to the actual ROM)
So if anything goes wrong at first boot with the android I can just pull out the battery without bricking the phone?

JonasDroid said:
So the kernel they are talking about is a fake kernel? (not flashed to the actual ROM)
So if anything goes wrong at first boot with the android I can just pull out the battery without bricking the phone?
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Its not a fake kernel...it is real but it resides on the sd card so your original wmo stuff will still be there in case you ever need to use wmo again.

new to xda and looking for the build for my hd2
Hello I am new to xda and i have a hd2 it is new and have had it about 5 wks am looking for a way to unlock it and also to put the android os on it. I had a friend of mine try this past wknd to do it and it kept flashing a error code and wouldn't allow us to proceed. Can someone please help direct me in the right direction much appreciated.

pierreg34 said:
Hello I am new to xda and i have a hd2 it is new and have had it about 5 wks am looking for a way to unlock it and also to put the android os on it. I had a friend of mine try this past wknd to do it and it kept flashing a error code and wouldn't allow us to proceed. Can someone please help direct me in the right direction much appreciated.
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You s should start your own thread. There are many different unlock so specify which one you're after, sim unlock? This section is only for android so if you need help on something else, post it in the hd2 general section, not here. Unless it is android related, you won't find help here.

Ok so if I install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773790
I can just remove the file on the SD when it doesn't work like we want it too and everything will be back to normal right?

You are correct.
If it doesnt work for you just erase the android folder. I would recommend flashing hard spl, and changing your radio to 2.12.50.02_2. Then load the hyperdroid 1.6 rom. You will have the best luck with that probably without having to change anything in winmo.

JonasDroid said:
Ok so if I install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773790
I can just remove the file on the SD when it doesn't work like we want it too and everything will be back to normal right?
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I'd recommend using a spare SD card. When you run Android it creates a ton of folders on it, so it's easier to have a dedicated one than to try and delete everything later (if he decides not to stick with Android).
Also, I read through the thread and couldn't see anywhere... did you tell us what radio is on the HD2? It needs to be (I believe) 2.08 or higher, and it's VERY recommended to have a 2.x.50 and not a 2.x.51 radio.

If you flash a 2.x.51 radio on a t-mobile US HD2 you will brick it. Try flashing radio 2.12.50.02_2

johncmolyneux said:
I'd recommend using a spare SD card. When you run Android it creates a ton of folders on it, so it's easier to have a dedicated one than to try and delete everything later (if he decides not to stick with Android).
Also, I read through the thread and couldn't see anywhere... did you tell us what radio is on the HD2? It needs to be (I believe) 2.08 or higher, and it's VERY recommended to have a 2.x.50 and not a 2.x.51 radio.
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Yeah dno the radio version or the bootloader version.
Do i need root to see that?? Is it just booting while pressing volume down to get the bootloader and the info I need?
Also I read that the HyperDroidV1.6 is overclocked and undervolted and I drather not do that. Just want it as stable as can be. (I know my overclocked legend is stable but if he has a really crappy processor,..)
BTW: I know what overclocking does but what's good about undervolting?? better batterylife?
I think I'll just give this a try this weekend (when my dad (and his phone xD)are home)

JonasDroid said:
Yeah dno the radio version or the bootloader version.
Do i need root to see that?? Is it just booting while pressing volume down to get the bootloader and the info I need?
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Just reboot the phone. The radio version is shown at the bottom left of the first white HTC screen (R,G,D - R is the radio version).
JonasDroid said:
Also I read that the HyperDroidV1.6 is overclocked and undervolted and I drather not do that. Just want it as stable as can be. (I know my overclocked legend is stable but if he has a really crappy processor,..)
BTW: I know what overclocking does but what's good about undervolting?? better batterylife?
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I'm assuming undervolting is for better battery life, but have never bothered with it myself. Just have a read of the most popular Android builds to see which you think will work for you. I can recommend FroyoStone Sense v3.1, but I would because that's what I use!
It's so easy to try the different builds that it's no big deal if you play with one and don't like it, so don't be shy - give em all a go if that's what it takes!
Edit: Just noticed your edit from when I was posting. lol

[Q] Easiest to follow Android on HD2 guide?

I've read through most of the guides now & to be honest don't understand a lot of them & as well as which my HD2 is (was) UK TMobile & factory unlocked then debranded (after a lot of help on here) by me
I'm not a complete idiot (close to) when it comes to technical things but this is my first HTC phone & I was considering selling it for the Desire HD when I read that the HD2 with the WP7 Android software was every bit as good.
I can see there are two versions one being on an SD card & one using the phones memory. Is there a very simple guide or should I steer clear?
Thanks for your help in advance guys
Junks

I also would like to know since i just pick up a HD2 as my backup phone. I would prefer to have android and no windows on this phone.
I'm very familiar with flashing and android since my primary phone is a Vibrant.
sorry for hijacking your thread OP since i see no reason to create another thread asking almost the same question.

Blkegk said:
I also would like to know since i just pick up a HD2 as my backup phone. I would prefer to have android and no windows on this phone.
I'm very familiar with flashing and android since my primary phone is a Vibrant.
sorry for hijacking your thread OP since i see no reason to create another thread asking almost the same question.
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No probs matey

I'm new to this too but I understand that you can run Android on your SD card (at least 4gb class 4 Sandisc from what I read - although I opted for 16gb Class 4 MicroSDHC for about £15) if you want to keep Winmo on your phone system.
NAND builds replace your winmo operating system completely.
I read its not a bad idea to keep androis on SD as you can use Winmo to update builds that may have bugs or improvements.
I see today that there's a guy buidling a multi-android boot up so as your phone starts I guess you can choose Winmo or choose from a few android builds, depending on what each build gives you.
Some builds have everything but are slow, some are thin on features but fast.
I'm yet to install one so I can't speak with any knowledge - I'm hoping to do it today using this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881958
Good luck.
Cheers

Thanks for that Darrell, I had read that guide but had been told that installing on the SD cards slowed up the phone so was really after installing on the phones memory

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
might want to read that if you havent already

Thanks Richy - hadn't seen that one!

I'm thinking of getting an HD2 phone used to install Android too. I'd probably want to run it on the SD so that WM6.5 or WP7 can be run on the NAND.
Where did you read it was slower on the SD ?

Junks666 said:
I've read through most of the guides now & to be honest don't understand a lot of them & as well as which my HD2 is (was) UK TMobile & factory unlocked then debranded (after a lot of help on here) by me
I'm not a complete idiot (close to) when it comes to technical things but this is my first HTC phone & I was considering selling it for the Desire HD when I read that the HD2 with the WP7 Android software was every bit as good.
I can see there are two versions one being on an SD card & one using the phones memory. Is there a very simple guide or should I steer clear?
Thanks for your help in advance guys
Junks
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Give this a try ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981811

The only limitation of that FAQ is that it doesn't have a clockworkmod guide which some of the NAND roms use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898913

WarlockW said:
Give this a try ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981811
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Thanks Warlock - I don't understand that at all!! lol
Ok I've found a guide that I can follow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11215136&postcount=8
Two things if someone can help please though
I've decide on either JDMS or PRJ Build Nands but.............
1. I can't find out how to downgrade from SPL-3.03 or find the relevant files?
2. I've just managed to debrand the phone using HSPL2, will this affect anything or the steps which have to be done?
Thanks guys

Need HELP! Need step by step instructions to get Android on my phone!

Alright, so I bought a used HD2 for $150 today and gave my fiancee my rooted Galaxy S running Bionix 2.2. Now I have this Windows 6.5 phone and no clue how to get it to run Android.
I have looked across the forums and all it does it make my head begin to smoke, lol. I am completely and utterly lost. I'd like to be able to boot into the multiple OS's, Android (preferably the HyperDroid ROM), Win7, and whatever the main third one is, and get that cool "Resistance is Futile" boot screen.
Right now though, I am reading about MAGLDR and stuff and it's saying I need radio and this and that and I have no clue what its talking about, nor any of the other stuff. I am quite surprised I was even able to root and ROM my Galaxy S, though I used a one click root and the ROM was a simple install.
Please help a daft idiot who is in dire need of some Android, lol.
EDIT:
Read this on the tmobile forum. I know nothing about radios, but I like the sound of the improved reception and battery life.
You will need to go to the XDA Developers website and find the ROM Development section. There are many to choose from. I use the Energy Sense with Cookie Classic and GTX ROM using the Froyo Sense 3.1 build. Also search for the thread on increasing the battery life. Changing the registry line code made a world of difference for me. Now I can easily have my HD2 in standby mode with auto sync and WiFi on for two days on one charge with light use. I am now using the Android 2.2 build as my daily OS. I am currently using radio 2.14.50.04 and previously had 2.12.50.02. Battery life on the newer radio for me is better when the phone is in use, about the same when not in use but the cell reception is much better than before.
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First place to go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948

Thanks man!
Now, if I use that method to get Android on my phone, will I later be able to have it dual boot with Win7, or triple boot with Win7 and Ubuntu?

It's not possible to 'thriple boot'.
Basically these are the steps you need:
Flash HSPL 2.08 on your HD2.
Flash the newest radio (2.15.50.14).
Flash MAGLDR.
Just look around for the links. They're all in the stickies anyway.
After that you csn flash WP7 to NAND and Android to the SD Card so you can dual-boot both. That's basically it.
Also, look on YouTube, there are handy guides on there.

Skellyyy said:
It's not possible to 'thriple boot'.
Basically these are the steps you need:
Flash HSPL 2.08 on your HD2.
Flash the newest radio (2.15.50.14).
Flash MAGLDR.
Just look around for the links. They're all in the stickies anyway.
After that you csn flash WP7 to NAND and Android to the SD Card so you can dual-boot both. That's basically it.
Also, look on YouTube, there are handy guides on there.
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I read on these very forums that its possible to triple boot, all the way up to quintuple boot. Someone made different splash screens for all the different boot OS's.
But thanks for the help though, I'll at least have Android soon enough.

Specialk47150 said:
I read on these very forums that its possible to triple boot, all the way up to quintuple boot. Someone made different splash screens for all the different boot OS's.
But thanks for the help though, I'll at least have Android soon enough.
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If as u say "Triple or Quintuple boot" means running either WP7 or WinMo 6.5 exclusively as a base, then running multiple builds of android "SD style" ? Then yeah u could do dat....But u can't have both WP7 & WinMo 6.5 on d same device as they both need exclusive storage in d same memory location....hweva if d above has been made possible? then pls do reply adding d link of such a post as i'm curious as 2 how it was pulled off.

uxu said:
First place to go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
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Thank you! Helped for me

No sorry. It's not possible. What's possible is to do is to boot WM and Ubuntu, WM and Android, WM and MeeGo (not yet released), WP7 and Android and possibly Android/WP7 and Ubuntu. Not too sure if you can do the last one. It's possible to have four OS' on the HD2, but not at the same time so it's not really 'triple booting' or 'quadruple booting' as you can only have two running at the same time.
No point in trying to contradict me dude.
Oh and btw that bootscreen you just flash from HSPL. Somebody could make one with an Apple logo, that doesn't mean it can run iOS.

Got it, running bluetopia now, you guys are awesome.
EDIT: NVM, got everything I needed, thanks all.

Where do I start?

I have HTC HD2 USA Tmobile in its original state.
I'd like to have dualboot with currect OS and Android (latest is 2.3?) and also win phone 7
Dont know where to start...
What i do understand is that i can try different ROMS for android and so forth, but i have no idea where to start.
Thanks for your help (ALL)!

first you can try an android sd build. cause it has no risk and very easy to flash. no hspl etc. after some time you can pass to a nand android. i don t think you will want winmo after android.

darkredphantom said:
I have HTC HD2 USA Tmobile in its original state.
I'd like to have dualboot with currect OS and Android (latest is 2.3?) and also win phone 7
Dont know where to start...
What i do understand is that i can try different ROMS for android and so forth, but i have no idea where to start.
Thanks for your help (ALL)!
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I'm new here too, but as far as I know, there is no real way to boot WinMo, Android and Windows Phone 7. You can only do WP7 and Android or WinMo and Android, or just Android off of NAND af course. I may be wrong, but I don't think there are SD builds of WP7. Also, I agree with mutil, use an SD build (I recommend AmeriCanAndroid).

Nigeldg said:
I agree with mutil, use an SD build (I recommend AmeriCanAndroid).
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Thanks all!
can someone provide me a link on where to go to get an SD Build, please understand im very new to the phone scene.
tys!

darkredphantom said:
Thanks all!
can someone provide me a link on where to go to get an SD Build, please understand im very new to the phone scene.
tys!
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Check the SD section. Lots of us devs have provided options with instructions.
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