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[Q] Still confused about Android, really don't know what to do?!?!

I'm still really confused. People are telling me to flash a different radio for android... then install Linux drivers or whatever, do I really have to install all this?!!? I thought it was just running Haret.exe and it works...
If anyone has individual guides for these would be great.... I'm really beyond confusion with this.
I basically just wanna dual boot the 2.1 Sense ROM (The best one, with good battery life etc.) and have everything working. If there is a particular guide, or several guides for this and someone could them to me in order I would be so greatful... because I really have no idea what I'm doing.
Also on a T-Mobile UK HD2, if that changes anything.

Just put a build on your SD card download an Android boot loader then run it simple as no need to change radio or anything else
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

If your really having trouble with it, then usually all I'd say is READ all of the stickies, all the info you could ever want on the subject and brings you to being in the exellent position of knowing almost everything. If not, take this link and call me in the morning
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
I do wish i could leave it there, but the OP of that thread has disappeared and isn't supporting the latest developments, but that tells you to download an Android build a ROM and a radio (oh, and a dual boot program). Those are the core components, If you wanna switch builds, you just change your SDcard whenever you do so desire. But you don't get much information on jacking round with the Kernel, this can provide quick upgrades to hardware (such as.... getting the lightsensor working in the future) without changing builds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719646
that should give you base knowledge of all things XDAndroid (a few posts down on the second link mind you). Hope this helps

JccageX2 said:
I'm still really confused. People are telling me to flash a different radio for android... then install Linux drivers or whatever, do I really have to install all this?!!? I thought it was just running Haret.exe and it works...
If anyone has individual guides for these would be great.... I'm really beyond confusion with this.
I basically just wanna dual boot the 2.1 Sense ROM (The best one, with good battery life etc.) and have everything working. If there is a particular guide, or several guides for this and someone could them to me in order I would be so greatful... because I really have no idea what I'm doing.
Also on a T-Mobile UK HD2, if that changes anything.
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Here is the crash course for you...
* It is the best to learn how to get Android on your phone and test different builds yourself for your taste - so, what makes you happy keep that build I guess.
I have T-Mobile USA HD2 am using FroyoStone Series V1 build and everything works just fine. Auto Killer App puts battery in comparable position with my WinMo and therefore I am using now Android full-time for the past week or so - not a single SOD, freeze, etc. - it simply works just fine.
How to get Android on your HD2? Find compatible build for your UK HD2 version by reading stickies and doing a little bit of homework researching xda forum.
Then once you find the build:
1. Download it... it will be packed into archive most likely (rar, zip, 7z, etc)
2. Froyo builds go usually into one folder "Android" - as packed just copy folder Android into the root of your SD card on your phone.
3. Open it up through File Explorer, start/click CLRCAD.exe - you will see no action and that's fine - this makes sure your sound works fine... then, start/click haret.exe...
4. Leave it to boot - first boot is bit longer but it should boot in less than couple of minutes or something like that (depends on the build).
5. DO WATCH what the lines state - if there is anything like "failed to mount, blah blah" or any other possible failure to load something - come back and start searching for solution on these forums... You should be fine (however, I do not offer any guarantee as any of the build makers).
The rest is pretty easy - run Android, play with it and see if you like it...
Note: To change builds, it is very simple... Just delete Android Folder from SD Card root and you are ready to download and install (copy over) another "Android folder" into the root of the build you have downloaded.
Cheers mate!

Okay, so there isn't need for flashing Radio's etc. then? Literally just running the files?
I can't even download the ROM's, not downloading I'll try again later though.

Most of the rom builders recommend upgrading to the most recent radio. There seem to be fewer issues with SOD, robo voice, etc vs older radios. That said, YMMV so try it out with what you have now. If you have problems try to out newer radios or WinMO roms built to run android. Good luck.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

There is a "defenite guide to android" on the forum. I was just like you but followed those steps exactly and now.I'm running android no problem. Just make sure you read up on everything. Its not gonna be as simple as dragging and dropping but it isn't extremely hard.
Sent from my Nexus One HD2 using XDA App

im just confused on android . what is the best one to get ?. im running energy dinik rom .
and im just not that sure about it yet . dont want to bugger my phone up tryin a android.

.BetaBoy said:
There is a "defenite guide to android" on the forum. I was just like you but followed those steps exactly and now.I'm running android no problem. Just make sure you read up on everything. Its not gonna be as simple as dragging and dropping but it isn't extremely hard.
Sent from my Nexus One HD2 using XDA App
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Okay, has anyone got a link to this guide?
Also, how do I change my Radio, and can it harm my device if I do?

the definitive guide to android is here the radio thread here...this helps as well...

JccageX2 said:
I'm still really confused. People are telling me to flash a different radio for android... then install Linux drivers or whatever, do I really have to install all this?!!? I thought it was just running Haret.exe and it works...
If anyone has individual guides for these would be great.... I'm really beyond confusion with this.
I basically just wanna dual boot the 2.1 Sense ROM (The best one, with good battery life etc.) and have everything working. If there is a particular guide, or several guides for this and someone could them to me in order I would be so greatful... because I really have no idea what I'm doing.
Also on a T-Mobile UK HD2, if that changes anything.
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SIMPLIFIED GUIDE

Need some help with an Andoird build for my dad.

Hi
First off all I want to say: I can probably find everything here in the forum but I'll spend hours and hours reading and most off the time I'll read useless info that I don't need so if you have the knowledge and it just takes 5 minutes to share it please help me out I'll be thankful.
I myself have a HTC legend and have read LOTS off posts before finally rooting and flashing custom roms. Now my dad has asked me if I could help him to get android on his HD2.
He needs to be able to sync his agenda with outlook (for work (Calendar and contacts) I read something about HTC sync should be working on newer kernels is it included in some builds then?), and have a stable build (its not a ROM if I'm correct?) one that he could use for daily use. Don't need anything too special (not even root but its not a problem if it does have root access)
So I've started reading around in the development section and from what I read I don't need to root or flash anything, just extract a zip to the SD and name it Android. Is that correct? (then why do you have special android roms?)
So is there someone who can link me to a good stable (no OC kernels and stuff please) Android Build and tell me if there are known bugs with HD2 builds that don't get mentioned in those threats because they are known as general knowledge.
Thanks in advance
If I could ever help you back with HTC legend problem or something I'll gladly do it for you.
grts
Jonas (sorry for the pour English it's not my main language)
I'm reading topics and If I find answers I'll update this but please if you have the knowledge to help me in a few minutes PLEASE do so.

Never mind found this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782930
and solved most of my questions looks like its not as fully operating as I thought :s.
So It's not just as easy as unzipping and renaming that would have been too easy.

It isn't very complicated to run android on the HD2. I don't know what feature you suspect isn't working that scared you from attempting. Every feature I could want is working. You also don't need to sacrifice windows mobile if you try android. Give it a shot and post again if you have trouble.

Problem is that I need to root and flash other wm Rom if I want everything to work as it should. Or isn't that really necessary? I'll just try a build and see what it does. Thx for th reply
Sent from my Legend using XDA App

JonasDroid said:
Problem is that I need to root and flash other wm Rom if I want everything to work as it should. Or isn't that really necessary? I'll just try a build and see what it does. Thx for th reply
Sent from my Legend using XDA App
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if you have to hspl your hd2 depends on your stock radio rom version. it should be a newer one like 2.10 or 2.12 to avoid most issues with android. flashing another winmo rom is only necessary if you have robot voice and/or faster playback of music (just to mention 2 problems)... you don't have anything to loose if you try android from stock hd2. if it's not working fine, you may think of flashing a new radio and/or rom!

So if I unzip the file I can dowload here put it into android folder in the root of my SD, I'm good to go? What about that kernel do I need to flash it??

if he uses it for work then i'd suggest laying off android for now

he could still use the WM? It's just like a program no? So by just removing the folder it would be back to normal?

JonasDroid said:
he could still use the WM? It's just like a program no? So by just removing the folder it would be back to normal?
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You basically reboot the phone and it goes back to wmo. Its almost like running a live linux cd...

When you run HaRet Android takes over the phone. When you reboot it will come back to WinMo. Then you run HaRet again and you back in Android. And so on. WinMo 'lives' on the phone, Android on sd.

So the kernel they are talking about is a fake kernel? (not flashed to the actual ROM)
So if anything goes wrong at first boot with the android I can just pull out the battery without bricking the phone?

JonasDroid said:
So the kernel they are talking about is a fake kernel? (not flashed to the actual ROM)
So if anything goes wrong at first boot with the android I can just pull out the battery without bricking the phone?
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Its not a fake kernel...it is real but it resides on the sd card so your original wmo stuff will still be there in case you ever need to use wmo again.

new to xda and looking for the build for my hd2
Hello I am new to xda and i have a hd2 it is new and have had it about 5 wks am looking for a way to unlock it and also to put the android os on it. I had a friend of mine try this past wknd to do it and it kept flashing a error code and wouldn't allow us to proceed. Can someone please help direct me in the right direction much appreciated.

pierreg34 said:
Hello I am new to xda and i have a hd2 it is new and have had it about 5 wks am looking for a way to unlock it and also to put the android os on it. I had a friend of mine try this past wknd to do it and it kept flashing a error code and wouldn't allow us to proceed. Can someone please help direct me in the right direction much appreciated.
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You s should start your own thread. There are many different unlock so specify which one you're after, sim unlock? This section is only for android so if you need help on something else, post it in the hd2 general section, not here. Unless it is android related, you won't find help here.

Ok so if I install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773790
I can just remove the file on the SD when it doesn't work like we want it too and everything will be back to normal right?

You are correct.
If it doesnt work for you just erase the android folder. I would recommend flashing hard spl, and changing your radio to 2.12.50.02_2. Then load the hyperdroid 1.6 rom. You will have the best luck with that probably without having to change anything in winmo.

JonasDroid said:
Ok so if I install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773790
I can just remove the file on the SD when it doesn't work like we want it too and everything will be back to normal right?
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I'd recommend using a spare SD card. When you run Android it creates a ton of folders on it, so it's easier to have a dedicated one than to try and delete everything later (if he decides not to stick with Android).
Also, I read through the thread and couldn't see anywhere... did you tell us what radio is on the HD2? It needs to be (I believe) 2.08 or higher, and it's VERY recommended to have a 2.x.50 and not a 2.x.51 radio.

If you flash a 2.x.51 radio on a t-mobile US HD2 you will brick it. Try flashing radio 2.12.50.02_2

johncmolyneux said:
I'd recommend using a spare SD card. When you run Android it creates a ton of folders on it, so it's easier to have a dedicated one than to try and delete everything later (if he decides not to stick with Android).
Also, I read through the thread and couldn't see anywhere... did you tell us what radio is on the HD2? It needs to be (I believe) 2.08 or higher, and it's VERY recommended to have a 2.x.50 and not a 2.x.51 radio.
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Yeah dno the radio version or the bootloader version.
Do i need root to see that?? Is it just booting while pressing volume down to get the bootloader and the info I need?
Also I read that the HyperDroidV1.6 is overclocked and undervolted and I drather not do that. Just want it as stable as can be. (I know my overclocked legend is stable but if he has a really crappy processor,..)
BTW: I know what overclocking does but what's good about undervolting?? better batterylife?
I think I'll just give this a try this weekend (when my dad (and his phone xD)are home)

JonasDroid said:
Yeah dno the radio version or the bootloader version.
Do i need root to see that?? Is it just booting while pressing volume down to get the bootloader and the info I need?
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Just reboot the phone. The radio version is shown at the bottom left of the first white HTC screen (R,G,D - R is the radio version).
JonasDroid said:
Also I read that the HyperDroidV1.6 is overclocked and undervolted and I drather not do that. Just want it as stable as can be. (I know my overclocked legend is stable but if he has a really crappy processor,..)
BTW: I know what overclocking does but what's good about undervolting?? better batterylife?
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I'm assuming undervolting is for better battery life, but have never bothered with it myself. Just have a read of the most popular Android builds to see which you think will work for you. I can recommend FroyoStone Sense v3.1, but I would because that's what I use!
It's so easy to try the different builds that it's no big deal if you play with one and don't like it, so don't be shy - give em all a go if that's what it takes!
Edit: Just noticed your edit from when I was posting. lol

[Q] Just got new HD2...Just a few questions about NAND Android

Hey Guy's,
Just got my HD2 and have been reading in the forum but just want to ask a couple of questions and get some feedback. I've read the newb thread and understand what I need to do as far as radio, HSPL and i've seen CWM recovery. My questions are...
1. Once I install a NAND ROM with HSPL and CWM recovery, is it possible to go back to ALL stock ROM, SPL and whatever recovery the HD2 came with? I think I read to just flash a Official ROM and it will do this?
2. Is CWM the way to go... Does it work like it should with backups and wipes and such?
3. Which ROMs have you guy's found to be the best daily drivers and most stable both Froyo and Gingerbread?
4. Do the NAND ROMs have root already or do I need to root somehow?
Thanks in advance for any help with these questions!

First of all welcome inthe HD2 "world".
To answer your questions:
1/ Yes
2/ I don't use it but it seems to work as it has to.
3/ Noone can answer such a question, it depends of what you want to do with your device. We all use it in a totally different way (except we all give calls).
Most of the devs do a very good job.
So read their thread, what is working, what is not.
Read the community comments (you will see the problems they encounter, the questions they have)
Most important, try some. After a while you will find the one which is suitable for you... and maybe become a flash addict as many of us
4/ all the one I tried where rooted, just read the description of the ROM
PS: carefull of the type of NAND as we no have DAF (without CWM), zip (CWM)... but it will just not flash, I don't think there's a big risk.

Thanks for the quick reply! (Thank You button hit)
That helps alot... And yes, i'll be a flash addict just as I am on all of my phones!

Yes, welcome to HD2. Best phone out with tons of options. I've tested many roms and have to say my current setup is outstanding. Refer to my signature, you will find your phone will run great. You will also be ready for a WinMo 7 flash in the event you care to try it out.

My first thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!
Champagne tonite

LOL...Not a problem!
Thanks goes to you also Devils1stBorn... I will try that ROM out first, it is one that I was looking at. Does it have the black notificatoin bar by chance?

OK... I'm on CleadDroid v1.11 now and it is AWESOME! Thanks again Truc007 and... Devils1stBorn for the ref to that ROM, but the only problem I seem to be having is 5 of my purchased apps and one free app won't install from the market. I keep getting Download Unsuccessful.
Any idea?

Are you on NAND or SD??
Sent from MIUI ROM XDA App

I'm on NAND... CleanDroid v1.11

Thanks for the help DH!
I switched to another ROM and all is fine now. I'll wait for an update to CleanDroid and try it again then because it is an awesome ROM. But MDJ's is nice too.

Need HELP! Need step by step instructions to get Android on my phone!

Alright, so I bought a used HD2 for $150 today and gave my fiancee my rooted Galaxy S running Bionix 2.2. Now I have this Windows 6.5 phone and no clue how to get it to run Android.
I have looked across the forums and all it does it make my head begin to smoke, lol. I am completely and utterly lost. I'd like to be able to boot into the multiple OS's, Android (preferably the HyperDroid ROM), Win7, and whatever the main third one is, and get that cool "Resistance is Futile" boot screen.
Right now though, I am reading about MAGLDR and stuff and it's saying I need radio and this and that and I have no clue what its talking about, nor any of the other stuff. I am quite surprised I was even able to root and ROM my Galaxy S, though I used a one click root and the ROM was a simple install.
Please help a daft idiot who is in dire need of some Android, lol.
EDIT:
Read this on the tmobile forum. I know nothing about radios, but I like the sound of the improved reception and battery life.
You will need to go to the XDA Developers website and find the ROM Development section. There are many to choose from. I use the Energy Sense with Cookie Classic and GTX ROM using the Froyo Sense 3.1 build. Also search for the thread on increasing the battery life. Changing the registry line code made a world of difference for me. Now I can easily have my HD2 in standby mode with auto sync and WiFi on for two days on one charge with light use. I am now using the Android 2.2 build as my daily OS. I am currently using radio 2.14.50.04 and previously had 2.12.50.02. Battery life on the newer radio for me is better when the phone is in use, about the same when not in use but the cell reception is much better than before.
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First place to go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948

Thanks man!
Now, if I use that method to get Android on my phone, will I later be able to have it dual boot with Win7, or triple boot with Win7 and Ubuntu?

It's not possible to 'thriple boot'.
Basically these are the steps you need:
Flash HSPL 2.08 on your HD2.
Flash the newest radio (2.15.50.14).
Flash MAGLDR.
Just look around for the links. They're all in the stickies anyway.
After that you csn flash WP7 to NAND and Android to the SD Card so you can dual-boot both. That's basically it.
Also, look on YouTube, there are handy guides on there.

Skellyyy said:
It's not possible to 'thriple boot'.
Basically these are the steps you need:
Flash HSPL 2.08 on your HD2.
Flash the newest radio (2.15.50.14).
Flash MAGLDR.
Just look around for the links. They're all in the stickies anyway.
After that you csn flash WP7 to NAND and Android to the SD Card so you can dual-boot both. That's basically it.
Also, look on YouTube, there are handy guides on there.
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I read on these very forums that its possible to triple boot, all the way up to quintuple boot. Someone made different splash screens for all the different boot OS's.
But thanks for the help though, I'll at least have Android soon enough.

Specialk47150 said:
I read on these very forums that its possible to triple boot, all the way up to quintuple boot. Someone made different splash screens for all the different boot OS's.
But thanks for the help though, I'll at least have Android soon enough.
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If as u say "Triple or Quintuple boot" means running either WP7 or WinMo 6.5 exclusively as a base, then running multiple builds of android "SD style" ? Then yeah u could do dat....But u can't have both WP7 & WinMo 6.5 on d same device as they both need exclusive storage in d same memory location....hweva if d above has been made possible? then pls do reply adding d link of such a post as i'm curious as 2 how it was pulled off.

uxu said:
First place to go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
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Thank you! Helped for me

No sorry. It's not possible. What's possible is to do is to boot WM and Ubuntu, WM and Android, WM and MeeGo (not yet released), WP7 and Android and possibly Android/WP7 and Ubuntu. Not too sure if you can do the last one. It's possible to have four OS' on the HD2, but not at the same time so it's not really 'triple booting' or 'quadruple booting' as you can only have two running at the same time.
No point in trying to contradict me dude.
Oh and btw that bootscreen you just flash from HSPL. Somebody could make one with an Apple logo, that doesn't mean it can run iOS.

Got it, running bluetopia now, you guys are awesome.
EDIT: NVM, got everything I needed, thanks all.

Hi! Semi-New to forum... Need help on Android 2.3.4 for HD2!

Hey everyone.. If theres any thread that thoroughly explains how to install Android 2.3.4 please direct me and help me out! If not, please help me out on this thread of my own.
I'm seeking to flash Android 2.3.4 on my HTC HD2(T-Mobile USA). I'm a total noob with flashing but i see some videos and things like that on youtube. I dont know whats going on in those videos and how they do it. Right now im on Windows Mobile 6.5(sad).. I want to upgrade to Android 2.3.4 because it seems to unleash the phone's full potential right?
I'd really like to have the best Android 2.3.4 ROM and not some laggy full of bloatware Android ROM. I like performance i hate it when my phone is skippy, sluggish and laggy. I see the Cyanogenmod7(CM7) on the HTC HD2s.. Is there anything better than that(performance wise and software compatibility)?
Need some help and direction where to go and some information on whats going on and how to do this! Please and thanks a lot!

All the information you need is in the sticky topics or via the search button.
Also you should get this, It will make things easier for you.
btw since you are semi-new you wont have been presented with the new XDA video upon signup, please watch this and take note, please dont be offended, watch it all the way through as it has valuable information.

Hi,
I don't think I will ever tire of seeing that video.
Plus this is worth checking out too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948

Hahaha thanks for the video. I understand the "answers may already be out there". Its a rule for mostly any forum(this is not the only one i visit). Ill check out what you guys have gave me and go on from there thanks a lot!

Ok, wait wait wait now whoa..
NAND vs SD? These are two different ways to install the Android ROM.
How is the stock WinMo 6.5 installed? Obviously not SD. NAND right? Or is it installed some totally different way?
All this seems really confusing to me >.< sorry for being a noob i cant help it, im trying to learn though i want to see my HD2 looking at me with an Android OS saying "Free at last! Free at last!"
PS: Whats MAGLDR and cLK???

hyrule571 said:
Ok, wait wait wait now whoa..
NAND vs SD? These are two different ways to install the Android ROM.
How is the stock WinMo 6.5 installed? Obviously not SD. NAND right? Or is it installed some totally different way?
All this seems really confusing to me >.< sorry for being a noob i cant help it, im trying to learn though i want to see my HD2 looking at me with an Android OS saying "Free at last! Free at last!"
PS: Whats MAGLDR and cLK???
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HI,
I think you should be aiming for a NAND system(faster and more stable...no WM involved )
Be prepared for A LOT of reading...
Start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
then check my sig...guide number 2 (I would go for MAGLDR to begin with)
use this tool to install task 29,HSPL, magldr and CWM partition.
Check here for ROMS:
http://android.hd2roms.com/
Remember:
The more you read,the more you will understand,the fewer mistakes you will make.

Lol its okay about the reading, if i get useful information and knowledge that i actually am interested in i'd keep reading =]
The sad thing is.. I'm reading about cLK and MAGLDR...
MAGLDR on the HTC HD2 will use RMNET, which gives a more stable data connection, but with packet loss(slower speed). While cLK gives faster connection(i dont think theres packet loss obviously), but the connection is not as stable and could freeze up Android. Plus, both MAGLDR and cLK are just different types of ROMs but both can be for Android, and in order to change from a MAGLDR to a cLK ROM you need to re-flash the whole device to the desired ROM.. Correct? (read carefully if its mixing you up, sorry)
Thats what my brain has taken in and gotten out of reading various threads and posts throughout the forum. That is accurate and true correct?

hyrule571 said:
Lol its okay about the reading, if i get useful information and knowledge that i actually am interested in i'd keep reading =]
The sad thing is.. I'm reading about cLK and MAGLDR...
MAGLDR on the HTC HD2 will use RMNET, which gives a more stable data connection, but with packet loss(slower speed). While cLK gives faster connection(i dont think theres packet loss obviously), but the connection is not as stable and could freeze up Android. Plus, both MAGLDR and cLK are just different types of ROMs but both can be for Android, and in order to change from a MAGLDR to a cLK ROM you need to re-flash the whole device to the desired ROM.. Correct? (read carefully if its mixing you up, sorry)
Thats what my brain has taken in and gotten out of reading various threads and posts throughout the forum. That is accurate and true correct?
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Hi,
OK.MAGLDR and cLK are different bootloaders.clk is more android friendly because it is native andoid,but there might be packet loss (this might be avoidable with the use of "wrappers",but I have only read this...I use magldr)
I suggested magldr cos its easier..end of.
Ksubedi has been very busy in the past couple of days simplifying the whole bootloader
situation.Check here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090783
He has also simplified the process of installing and switching between magldr and clk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111081
To sum up the choice is yours.
Magldr has got a game of Tetris you can play.
With cLK, you can charge the phone when its off.

So i might as well not flash any ROMs yet from Android since they are still defected in some ways. Thats lame =\
What about Windows Phone 7? Are there any defuncts on that ROM too?

hyrule571 said:
So i might as well not flash any ROMs yet from Android since they are still defected in some ways. Thats lame =\
What about Windows Phone 7? Are there any defuncts on that ROM too?
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Hi,
Quitting already?
I thought you wanted your phone to come alive.HD2 was made for android.
Just choose a bootloader, go to the list I showed you ,pick a 2.3.4 like Hyperdroid and flash it. At least try it.Wm7 isn't perfect either.
Sent from my Imitation Sensation!