The Mytouch 4g vs a lot of others phones has a whole 4GB of rom.
After I rooted it and installed Royal Ginger 2.1 on it, I saw I only have a little over 1GB for all my apps. Meaning that the OS takes up 3.6GB(formatted) - 1.2GB(Around) = 2.4GB ....
Is there anyway to get more user space? Some phones only come with 512MB of Rom so how are they able to load so much into 512 when we have 4GB and most of it not usable.
Honestly, I think 1GB is fine, just does not add up for me
I think when you see manufacturers talk rom size it's the amount available to the user. So 512MB after os allocation.
so when mytouch 4g says 4GB it means? 4GB to user?
the 4 gigs are supposed to be for the system and any read only data, or apps that don't like being on the SD Card. Even with a hundred apps, it should still be enough. What you'd really want is a larger SD card, and you'll be living in harmony.
No 4GB total of which 1.1 available.
Desire for 512MB of which 100 or less available to user.
Rest is storage + cache.
Desire canbe changed VIA hboot. If same can be done to glacier, im sûre u'll find the remaining space.
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so when mytouch 4g says 4GB it means? 4GB to user?
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Had that backwards, sorry
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The site tells the tale. Here is the canadian HTC site with the specs for the Desire Z. ROM shows 4GB:
http://www.htc.com/ca/products/desirez-bell#tech-specs
Here is the UK HTC site for the Desire Z. ROM says 1.5GB
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/desirez/specification.html
Someone getting screwed again??
Typo on the Canadian site ?
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The site tells the tale. Here is the canadian HTC site with the specs for the Desire Z. ROM shows 4GB:
Someone getting screwed again??
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And G2 says 4GB too, yet most of them get 1.5GB :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796421&highlight=1.5GB
Look again. There's more than just the ROM that's different from other specs. we've seen.
The battery is 1230mah
The weight is 164g instead of the 180g we've seen everywhere else.
Weird.
I will be very very happy if it has 4 GB of ROM. (CDN Version).
@LickTheEnvelope: but very, very improbable. T-Mobile G2 has 1.5GB for you as a user, period :
http://www.facebook.com/TMobile?v=wall&story_fbid=107096669355183&ref=mf
The G2 includes 4GB of internal memory, of which a portion is accessible for downloading applications from the Android Market and a portion is allocated for both the operating system and preloaded applications.
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Same applies for Desire Z and same will apply for Desire Z NAM. There is no 1.5GB and 4GB variant, all have 1.5GB user and 4GB total internal flash memory. HTC states the real, usable size of memory, T-Mobile states the total amount of memory.
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@LickTheEnvelope: but very, very improbable. T-Mobile G2 has 1.5GB for you as a user, period :
http://www.facebook.com/TMobile?v=wall&story_fbid=107096669355183&ref=mf
Same applies for Desire Z and same will apply for Desire Z NAM. There is no 1.5GB and 4GB variant, all have 1.5GB user and 4GB total internal flash memory. HTC states the real, usable size of memory, T-Mobile states the total amount of memory.
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You would likely be correct. Bell's spec sheet lists their desire Z at 1.5 GB. Oh well.
That is so deceiving cause the Desire HD and the Desire Z (UK version) both say 1.5GB and the Desire Z (CA) and G2 (T-Mobile) say 4GB. That is WAY off from 1.5GB. What the hell do they need 2.5GB for OS and pre-installed apps for?!? That's CRAZY!!
Good question, but i have no answer.
There's a massive ongoing discussion on the whole 1.5 GB vs 4 GB thing over on the G2 forum. So far, it's been shown (via dismantling a G2) that it really does have a 4 GB chip in there, but only 1.5 GB seems to be accessible - so far, no-one can explain why.
This has been extensively discussed previously
Search for the "HTC vision" variants thread
They all have 4GB memory but "only" 1.5GB is user accessible for apps,
which I still think is enough,
more than plenty when considering the other phones in the market have less than half that ammount, and the number of apps you could ever possbly install into your phone
To make this clear again:
Some operators are marketing it as "4GB" and some are saying "1.5GB", but thats THE SAME because in the end ALL HTC VISION VARIANTS (T-mobile G2, HTC Desire Z, Desire Z NAM-US, Verizon's Merge...) have memory of 4 GB/1.5GB accessible.
Id Say topic is clear and edification by grab. This thread should be closed to keep these clean
There are several existing threads on this - closed
Just a random thought..
Does anything think that maybe the reason that only 1.5gb out of 4 is available on the Desire Z could be due to the TomTom maps that are preloaded?
And if it were that, I wonder if you can delete'em..
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Just a random thought..
Does anything think that maybe the reason that only 1.5gb out of 4 is available on the Desire Z could be due to the TomTom maps that are preloaded?
And if it were that, I wonder if you can delete'em..
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If you mean the pre-cached maps from HTC Locations, then you could probably remove everything through a loading a custom ROM.
But it is highly unlikely that this is the reason why the Desire Z has 1.5Gb instead of the G-2's 4Gb. What is probably the case is that since T-Mobile is the launch partner of the Vision, HTC has given T-Mobile an exclusive increase in storage space.
skulk3r, G2 has 1.5GB too. It is simply a difference in describing the same thing. Both Desire Z and G2 has a 4GB flash memory chip, user accessible area is 1.5GB in both cases. There is no 4GB or 1.5GB variant of HTC Vision, there is just one type with different radios.
I didn't realize that the g2 only had 1.5 usable as well.. for some reason I was thinking it had 2.5
It would be nice to see if the future roms can let all 4gb free for us
Im sure you can nix the tomtom maps with a hard reset and new rom as someone just said. There prob will need some development to unlock that memory
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skulk3r, G2 has 1.5GB too. It is simply a difference in describing the same thing. Both Desire Z and G2 has a 4GB flash memory chip, user accessible area is 1.5GB in both cases. There is no 4GB or 1.5GB variant of HTC Vision, there is just one type with different radios.
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oh wow. i totally missed that. thanks for the correction
There is a huge thread in G2 forum about this and the consensus is that there is only the 1.5GB model. Of course few funny guys voted for 4GB, but a very, very huge majority voted for 1.5GB model, which means there is no 4GB model in reality.
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There is a huge thread in G2 forum about this and the consensus is that there is only the 1.5GB model. Of course few funny guys voted for 4GB, but a very, very huge majority voted for 1.5GB model, which means there is no 4GB model in reality.
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I think you may have been misunderstanding..
It seems that both the G2 and DZ are 4gb but 2.5gb is used or reserved from the factory, leaving only 1.5gb available for the user.
I was just thinking that since so much is taken and it's the first phone with HTC Locations (aka TomTom), it would make sense if 1-1.5gb of the lost space was due to preloaded maps. However I don't think the G2 has these maps so that rules out this theory.
No, i didn't misunderstood that . Both Desire Z and G2 has a 4GB chip, but only 1.5GB is available to users => everyone has the same model, there is no 4GB or 1.5GB version, all are the same.
Just wondering, once we get these options, will anyone use them?
Coming from a G1, I knew swap and apps2sd were definitely needed.
But seeing as we have 768 MB of RAM, 1.2GB of data.
Since internal memory is faster than micro sd cards, would we use apps2sd?
If anything, could we just use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717874 that mod?
Since we have so much RAM, would swap/compcache be necessary ?
Just a few questions, thanks for your replies and thoughts. :]
I don't really see the need for them, this phone is flying.
Bet money we will not even see those coming. Ablsolutely no point with native apps on sd card and that much ram.
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Hello, I about to buy Motorola Defy+ in the next 2 weeks and I'm curious about few things that I didnt clearly understand about the phone.
I've been looking around and I found it's specs.
The most confusing thing in it's specs was "2 GB storage, 512 MB RAM, 1 GB ROM". As far as I could understand it and explain it to myself was it has 512 ram, 1 GB memory to install custom roms and 2 GB internal storage for games/movies/pictures/music. Am I right?
One more thing that I'm curious about is the storage. If I was right about the internal and rom storage do you guys have any problems with 2 GB storage?
Thanks in advance. I'll be happy to join Defy's community.
Mavasilisk said:
Hello, I about to buy Motorola Defy+ in the next 2 weeks and I'm curious about few things that I didnt clearly understand about the phone.
I've been looking around and I found it's specs.
The most confusing thing in it's specs was "2 GB storage, 512 MB RAM, 1 GB ROM". As far as I could understand it and explain it to myself was it has 512 ram, 1 GB memory to install custom roms and 2 GB internal storage for games/movies/pictures/music. Am I right?
One more thing that I'm curious about is the storage. If I was right about the internal and rom storage do you guys have any problems with 2 GB storage?
Thanks in advance. I'll be happy to join Defy's community.
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Do not worry about anything, just buy the phone if you don't really need secondary camera. We have the best developers working for the development of defy. So you'll be more than happy. We have stable gingerbread, ics, jb builds, also 4.2 in the making. So go for it.
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Thanks, mate! The good devs is a huge fact that made me like the phone even more. This device seems immortal thanks to Quart.
Your answer really encouraged me to buy it. Actually, I'm going to try the phone in two hours. I will join the community in like 2 weeks.
I have the 8gb model Nexus 4, and it comes with 5.67 gb available to the user. My concern is what that other space is being used for, which I assume is the OS, and why then does the phone need 2.3 GB for the OS when we flash whole ROMS that are a couple hundred MB's. And will new rom upgrades in the future not work on my 8gb because of storage issues I assume everytime Google puts out a new version of Android its gonna require more space on the phone, and my question is how long till my 8gb phone cant support those upgrades anymore?
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I have the 8gb model Nexus 4, and it comes with 5.67 gb available to the user. My concern is what that other space is being used for, which I assume is the OS, and why then does the phone need 2.3 GB for the OS when we flash whole ROMS that are a couple hundred MB's. And will new rom upgrades in the future not work on my 8gb because of storage issues I assume everytime Google puts out a new version of Android its gonna require more space on the phone, and my question is how long till my 8gb phone cant support those upgrades anymore?
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Google promises support for Nexus devices, small or large storage. They will stop updates when they stop updates for the 16 gig version
To answer your ROM question, you'll notice that ROMs are .zip files which means all the files are compressed into a couple hundred megabytes but are really more
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