Just wondering, once we get these options, will anyone use them?
Coming from a G1, I knew swap and apps2sd were definitely needed.
But seeing as we have 768 MB of RAM, 1.2GB of data.
Since internal memory is faster than micro sd cards, would we use apps2sd?
If anything, could we just use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717874 that mod?
Since we have so much RAM, would swap/compcache be necessary ?
Just a few questions, thanks for your replies and thoughts. :]
I don't really see the need for them, this phone is flying.
Bet money we will not even see those coming. Ablsolutely no point with native apps on sd card and that much ram.
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HEllo there,
I need to buy a new miniSD card for my P3600.
Therefore, I would like to know the bandwidth of the card reader of P3600, in order to choose wisely the best card for it.
If the badwidth is only 5MB/s, then it's not worthy to buy a card which is 80x...
Another question is: will I loose performance if I decide to go for a 4GB card?...I have this doubt because the bigger the card, bigger the mapping of it ...Therefore, more processing power is necessary...
I think is very usefull information for anybody that needs to buy a card for this device...and for that, all help would be much appreciated
Thank you
Probably you have heard all those SD file corruption stories, haven't you?
Nowadays memory cards are real damn cheap - even if it's 80x. But I guess you would want to find the most "compatible" card instead of finding the card with "just right speed".
It's almost for sure that the life span of your card will far exceed your device. The card can be reused - why not buy a better one, stability issues aside.
4GB cards usually come in the SDHC flavors - which doesn't always work as expected since Trinity only comes with partial SDHC support at best, not to mention the corruption bug.... Again you should worry more about compatibility than it's speed...
the program pocket mechanics let you benchmark and compare with other brands in other phones
with normal sd the pda is the bottleneck suspect the same goes for microSD
but read and write is never at the same speed for flash
and suspect the interface in the pda is able to write as fast as it can read of the card can keep up
ww2250 said:
Probably you have heard all those SD file corruption stories, haven't you?
Nowadays memory cards are real damn cheap - even if it's 80x. But I guess you would want to find the most "compatible" card instead of finding the card with "just right speed".
It's almost for sure that the life span of your card will far exceed your device. The card can be reused - why not buy a better one, stability issues aside.
4GB cards usually come in the SDHC flavors - which doesn't always work as expected since Trinity only comes with partial SDHC support at best, not to mention the corruption bug.... Again you should worry more about compatibility than it's speed...
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I don't remember of asking anything regarding compatibility...
My question was regarding the speed...and it still remains:
-Whats the speed of Trinity card reader bus?
-Will I loose performance with a 4GB card?
I already know about the compatibility issues...but if there's no performance issues with a 4GB card, I can buy one of each brand, and see which one is compatible...if any...
I don't think that my questions are stupid, but if you think so, then keeps the thoughts for yourself please.
Regards,
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I don't think that my questions are stupid, but if you think so, then keeps the thoughts for yourself please.
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I don't remember anyone ever said your questions are stupid, but if you think so, then read the whole thread again. Really, that would a disaster if we all follow your logic - anyone who did not reply or did not exactly reply what you ask for would think that your questions are stupid, then basically everyone in this forum would fall into this category.
We are trying to be nice in replying your question, knowing that you are relatively new to the forum, and pointing to you there might be potential problems that you want to avoid when making a purchase decision. At least, I think this is even a more valuable advice for those who want to buy new cards especially for beginners, than just considering alone the speed.
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I already know about the compatibility issues...but if there's no performance issues with a 4GB card, I can buy one of each brand, and see which one is compatible...if any...
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So now, we all know that you are not stupid nor asking stupid questions, then how about if you buy one of each speed, and do a benchmark yourself and then post the results back and share your precious experience with all others? It would be invaluable to your fellow readers especially for those who want to buy a new card.
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So now, we all know that you are not stupid nor asking stupid questions, then how about if you buy one of each speed, and do a benchmark yourself and then post the results back and share your precious experience with all others? It would be invaluable to your fellow readers especially for those who want to buy a new card.
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Answer my question, and who knows, I'll do it
Sorry about my rude answer...but it pisses me off, when a threads starts talking about oranges and finishes up talking about apples....
Any way...it seems like we are always changing roms, searching for the best performance, but at the end, we don't know the speed of the biggest bottleneck in the pda...
It's August...seems like all experts are in holidays
Anyone here that could give additional info?
There is a new fix for the lag issue you may have read about in the other galaxy s forums. I have it working on my captivate and it is working great. The only issue that has not been fixed is gps. I wonder if the gps issue is why sprint has not released the epic. I bet as soon as the gps is fixed the epic will follow shorty after. This is without froyo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=376573&d=1281360601
1 click lag fix(should work on epic as well but we wont know until we get are hands on the epic)
We may even not have the lag issue on the Epic...remember that the Epic only has 1gb rom...my guess is the 1gb rom will be faster then the 16gb...
To make an example why I think it is the case lets use SD cards...if your buying a 16gb sd card..and you want it as cheap as possible you'd get a class 2 16gb sd card...now if you wanted a 1gb SD card..you wouldn't bother getting a class 2 and just get a class 6... mostly since the price is the same..and I don't think anyone would even bother waisting money to even manufacture class 2 1gb SD cards..
Edit: I looked at the fix a bit closely and noticed its not the SD card fix thing...but either way it won't work...mostly due to "If you do not have 1GB of free space on /data, this fix won't be able to run. Looking into workarounds."..we only have 1gb rom to begin with...we will never have that much free...
Its not the 16gb thats the issue. Its the way samsung is formating/partitioning it. The new fix is not using the sd card like the old fixs. It reformats 1 gb of space on the 16gb of onboard storage. The fix with the sd card gets about 1500 score and this fix that uses the internal storage gets over 2000 with no I/O problems. Im pretty sure the epic will have the same type of formating/partitioning that all the other galaxy s phones have.
Edit: It looks like they are already working on a fix for phones with only 1 gb of storage.
The Mytouch 4g vs a lot of others phones has a whole 4GB of rom.
After I rooted it and installed Royal Ginger 2.1 on it, I saw I only have a little over 1GB for all my apps. Meaning that the OS takes up 3.6GB(formatted) - 1.2GB(Around) = 2.4GB ....
Is there anyway to get more user space? Some phones only come with 512MB of Rom so how are they able to load so much into 512 when we have 4GB and most of it not usable.
Honestly, I think 1GB is fine, just does not add up for me
I think when you see manufacturers talk rom size it's the amount available to the user. So 512MB after os allocation.
so when mytouch 4g says 4GB it means? 4GB to user?
the 4 gigs are supposed to be for the system and any read only data, or apps that don't like being on the SD Card. Even with a hundred apps, it should still be enough. What you'd really want is a larger SD card, and you'll be living in harmony.
No 4GB total of which 1.1 available.
Desire for 512MB of which 100 or less available to user.
Rest is storage + cache.
Desire canbe changed VIA hboot. If same can be done to glacier, im sûre u'll find the remaining space.
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so when mytouch 4g says 4GB it means? 4GB to user?
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Had that backwards, sorry
I want to buy an HD2. Maybe.
I have several questions.
1. I HATE APPS2SD!!! i'll never use it on a phone like the HD2. How does this limit my rom choices? I know some HUGE sense 3.0 roms won't fit. Is that an issue? are there any sense 3.0 roms that fit? (512mb version t9193)
2. I don't know how much the average user is affected by having only 512 vs 1024, so this is a similar question to the one above
3. does anyone see a reason for me NOT to buy the HD2. Is it dying? is Development slowing down? Money isn't an object, but i'm stingy. The only reason I'm considering the phone is for the great development.
4. What phones is the HD2 faster than? could it compete (running a sense rom) with a Desire HD? (less ram, worse snapdragon, I know, but what's the difference really?)
I might have more later. I hope some people actually read and respond to some (if not all) of these.
I'll thank you with the button
jcarrz1
I'll try and remember each of your questions but I might have to revisit when I'm by my comp.
1st I don't use apps2sd either, I do put some apps on SD that appmonster shows me to be ok to move. There are several sense 3 builds that fit but they use a partition of your SD to kind of "fit" the Rom in. Leo 512 for example will need a 1gb ext2/3/4 partitioned on your SD card. Also all sense 3 builds have a few glitches on the hd2, you can go on YouTube and see videos of what I am talking about. "i believe" if we get a new gingerbread kernal that's compatible that could fix the issue.
2nd I can't really comment since I have T-Mobile 1024.
Uh..3rd I can't see a single reason not to switch to the hd2. I almost feel its got like a type of cult following behind it and I don't see the development slowing down in the near future.
I'll have to check back later because its hard to remember all the questions.
4th this phone runs about the same as the desire. Yes I know it is a slight bit slower but it can run five different operating systems..that shows there is enough power to get the job done. I will say though if you posted this question in the evo section someone else will be telling you why to get an evo. It all comes down to what your looking for in a phone. If you want the newest best screen and speed then this ain't the phone for you, if you want something that's highly customizable then this is the perfect phone.
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WHY IS a2sd SO COMMON?
why is it that a random gingerbread (aosp or cyanogen) rom had a2sd support? this is very unsettling. People shouldn't automatically have their roms use a2sd. it should be an option because it's so slow... 512 is plenty of room.
anyone have insight? on this or my OP?
thanks
Hello, I about to buy Motorola Defy+ in the next 2 weeks and I'm curious about few things that I didnt clearly understand about the phone.
I've been looking around and I found it's specs.
The most confusing thing in it's specs was "2 GB storage, 512 MB RAM, 1 GB ROM". As far as I could understand it and explain it to myself was it has 512 ram, 1 GB memory to install custom roms and 2 GB internal storage for games/movies/pictures/music. Am I right?
One more thing that I'm curious about is the storage. If I was right about the internal and rom storage do you guys have any problems with 2 GB storage?
Thanks in advance. I'll be happy to join Defy's community.
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Hello, I about to buy Motorola Defy+ in the next 2 weeks and I'm curious about few things that I didnt clearly understand about the phone.
I've been looking around and I found it's specs.
The most confusing thing in it's specs was "2 GB storage, 512 MB RAM, 1 GB ROM". As far as I could understand it and explain it to myself was it has 512 ram, 1 GB memory to install custom roms and 2 GB internal storage for games/movies/pictures/music. Am I right?
One more thing that I'm curious about is the storage. If I was right about the internal and rom storage do you guys have any problems with 2 GB storage?
Thanks in advance. I'll be happy to join Defy's community.
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Do not worry about anything, just buy the phone if you don't really need secondary camera. We have the best developers working for the development of defy. So you'll be more than happy. We have stable gingerbread, ics, jb builds, also 4.2 in the making. So go for it.
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Thanks, mate! The good devs is a huge fact that made me like the phone even more. This device seems immortal thanks to Quart.
Your answer really encouraged me to buy it. Actually, I'm going to try the phone in two hours. I will join the community in like 2 weeks.