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Hey Guys,
Sorry for that dump thread, but i need some technical opionions to the GS.
I bought that mobile because its for me ideal in size, features and so on.
My "last" mobile was an iphone 3G and i was very happy with that stuff. But now i have the GS and its amazing. So in the last days i checked the xda and MoDaCo forum and found the threads about the point that the samsung drivers are encrypted and the partions are different to other smartphones, so if samsung decide to reject an update to Android 2.2 or 3.0 we never receive that update from the community. On the HTC phones it is easier for the community to hack an version and bring them to other devices but it seems for the GS it is impossible. For me it is importend to use a mobile that i can update & use it in 2 or 3 years.
So take the samsung or send it back and wait for example a bigger htc oder a 3g droid x?
regards
Timo
Let's just say, SGS currently offers nearly everything at the top of the market.
BUT, it would NOT be future proof. Technology advances regardless of any economical drawbacks, there WILL be better phones out there in the future.
Screen - debatable with iPhone4's screen
This really is a territory where personal preference will determine which the better screen will be, the differences are that minuscule.
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iPhone4 Retina Display vs. Galaxy S Super Amoled
CPU/GPU - YES YES YES. THREE times the speed of today's smartphone.
Coolermaster
Hummingbird vs. Snapdragon: The 1 GHz Smartphone Showdown
OS - Debatable so i wouldn't want to get into this. (but might i add this? the community behind android, let alone other OS, has an advantage of being futuristic-proof because of the regular tweets and mods)
Camera - 5mp, pretty darn low comparatively to other smartphones but it's adequate/satisfying after seeing the vids/pics
For me, I would certainly pick SGS. This is a bad place to ask for our opinon, it's a SGS dedicated section! (Trust me, you won't regret it. The screen is the dealbreaker)
Anything else you're wondering?
And no, i don't own the phone YET.
I'll be purchasing as soon as ATT's Captivate releases.
I have the same question he has, myself...
I 100% agree it's the best right now. But Android grows fast. We'll have dual core devices THIS YEAR (granted I think they'll suck battery like a cow but we'll see how it goes)... So obviously, it won't be relevant forever.
However my main issue is like with 3.0... Will we be able to upgrade or not?
Samsung is also what's keeping me from buying a Galaxy S.
I love the freedom of the HTC (specially the Nexus One), and being locked to Samsung with their terrible support is a dreadful sight to me.
I really don't know what to do, since I believe the Galaxy S has the best hardware nowadays but its software is just... unreliable
Yceman said:
Samsung is also what's keeping me from buying a Galaxy S.
I love the freedom of the HTC (specially the Nexus One), and being locked to Samsung with their terrible support is a dreadful sight to me.
I really don't know what to do, since I believe the Galaxy S has the best hardware nowadays but its software is just... unreliable
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in what way exactly are you 'locked'?
the phone is rooted, and i expect a custom rom with froyo soon...
TexUs said:
I have the same question he has, myself...
I 100% agree it's the best right now. But Android grows fast. We'll have dual core devices THIS YEAR (granted I think they'll suck battery like a cow but we'll see how it goes)... So obviously, it won't be relevant forever.
However my main issue is like with 3.0... Will we be able to upgrade or not?
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As BasieP was saying that we'll have a custom froyo, it'll happen for 3.0 (GingerBread) too. SGS will be one of the largest community due to its alluring specs. (my prediction, finger crossed - but seriously, just look at the specs)
Well that's if Samsung would not be able to provide an official build. (With the current number of developers in the community, any kind of modding is really possible)
You shouldn't worry about the support from Samsung. If you don't have Samsung, you have us. Remember now, Android is a community based 'software' (need a better word!). Annnnd best of all, our tweaks are far superior than 'official' builds.
Don't get your hopes up yet. It's not sure wether there will be a problem with the drivers or not
BasieP said:
in what way exactly are you 'locked'?
the phone is rooted, and i expect a custom rom with froyo soon...
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Well, reading the Modaco custom rom topic (I can't post the link because I'm a new user) I'm led to believe that so far nobody can make a custom rom if Samsung doesn't release the regular rom first. So, no custom Froyo until Samsung release its own Froyo update. The same for Gingerbread.
See what the poster says:
"MoDaCo Custom ROMs are based on official ROMs - either shipping or leaked. A MCR release is designed to feel as far as possible like a stock ROM, with optimisations, tweaks and complimentary additions that enhance the user experience. The aim of a MCR is to be ultra reliable for use on an everyday device."
Later on someone else says:
"No I said it would be near impossible to get roms from other sources like Sense roms or Froyo on because of the driver issue. I never said you would never see custom roms. The only roms you are going to see are one's based off of Samsungs release."
And apparently this problem has happened with the others Samsung Android phones too.
That's what I meant with being locked with Samsung.
I think Yceman make the point:
Without official driver from samsung: no update.
So i am sure that 2.2 will be the last update from samsung (yeah the sucessor is announced for Q1Y12.
And this means, that i will give back my galaxy S because i want more than 1 update (okay froyo will be an important update).
Sorry Samsung...
regards
Timo
TimoC said:
I think Yceman make the point:
Without official driver from samsung: no update.
So i am sure that 2.2 will be the last update from samsung (yeah the sucessor is announced for Q1Y12.
And this means, that i will give back my galaxy S because i want more than 1 update (okay froyo will be an important update).
Timo
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Can any of the recent phones handle the Gingerbread for sure?
Do we really know the hardware specifications of Android 3.0?
I'm going to the SGS fingers crossed that it get the FroYo in 2010. HTC Desire get it for next Xmas, as read in many sites.
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Can any of the recent phones handle the Gingerbread for sure?
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We know nothing "for sure". But it is very likely: The first Android Phone (G1),released 2008, runs Android 2.1 just fine, and it is getting 2.2 as well.
The question is not in hardware, but in support. Does Samsung want to support this phone in 6 month, and does the community has what it needs to take the future of the I9000 into its own hands?
As long as nobody counters the "drivers are properitary" argument from psychoace, I expect that there won't be custom roms which are not based on Samsung's own ROMs.
And as long as Samsung's PR does not make a great statement in this direction, we should expect that they won't support the galaxy S in 6 month. Because that is what they did with all their android phones so far. The samsung moment can easily handle Froyo, it was released in Fall '09, and it was announced a week ago that it won't get the update.
That said, support is not better from HTC, Motorola or Sony. At least here in Europe. The Nexus One is the exception, but that is not because of HTC.
Hi Guys. This question of on-going support is the critical one for me. I really wanted to buy the Galaxy S but I've just pulled the trigger and purchased a nexus one !!!
Like any 'bleeding' edge phone the Galaxy S currently has a number of outstanding issues but who knows when, if ever, they will be fixed. At least with the nexus one there are regular updates from google AND there are loads of roms and driver updates etc available.
For me in the end it boiled down to a choice between (a) the Galaxy with its better hardware and features (E.g. the screen, built-in memory, video playback, music player etc) but with unreliable fixes and updating and (b) the Nexus with a not so good screen and poorer selections of apps out of the box but with easier updating and reliable updating.
However, having said that, I still think the Galaxy will still be a good/better choice for many ( most?) people provided purchasers are happy with the phone as is. I regard myself - and probably many of the XDA-developer members as a minority for whom the latest OS updates are important.
MetaDude said:
Hi Guys. This question of on-going support is the critical one for me. I really wanted to buy the Galaxy S but I've just pulled the trigger and purchased a nexus one !!!
Like any 'bleeding' edge phone the Galaxy S currently has a number of outstanding issues but who knows when, if ever, they will be fixed. At least with the nexus one there are regular updates from google AND there are loads of roms and driver updates etc available.
For me in the end it boiled down to a choice between (a) the Galaxy with its better hardware and features (E.g. the screen, built-in memory, video playback, music player etc) but with unreliable fixes and updating and (b) the Nexus with a not so good screen and poorer selections of apps out of the box but with easier updating and reliable updating.
However, having said that, I still think the Galaxy will still be a good/better choice for many ( most?) people provided purchasers are happy with the phone as is. I regard myself - and probably many of the XDA-developer members as a minority for whom the latest OS updates are important.
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A number of items to consider:
1. This phone is being released worldwide. (support is a given)
2. Samsung has released the source code and developed a site to release source code for all their future products.
See here: http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/reception_main.do?searchValue=i9000&method=reception_search
3. There is already a custom rom on MoDaco.
4. Since the phone is already rooted, further support will no doubt continue.
5. The GPU on the SGS is just insane compared to what is currently available on other phones. (including the iPhone 4)
6. The Screen!
7. The Screen!
8. The Screen!
Only time will tell how much support this phone will get from the community, but considering it is already rooted and the amount of enthusiasm people have for this phone, I think the support will continue. Even with Samsung's previous history (Behold II), I'm confindent that the SGS will get continued support. I feel this is the beginning of a very important product line for them. The backlash from South Korea alone would be immense if they dropped support. Pissing off customers in your home country would not be a good idea.
I'm definitely putting all my eggs in this basket and hoping for the best.
PS: There's no such thing as a future proof phone. There will definitely be a better phone this fall. But probably none with a Super AMOLED screen.
As we all have heard, sadly, ICS will not be available through Samsung because of the lack of memory available in the SGS to run Touchwiz.
However the community isn't happy, XDA will probably find a way to get ICS on your SGS.
If you feel you should complain about the lack of ICS on your device, you may do so in this thread. However, other threads about the subject will be closed / deleted, since one thread should suffice.
Consider this a warning too; We strive to keeping the forum clean, and if anyone ignores this, disciplinary action will be taken.
Edit: petition url added here: http://www.change.org/petitions/www...ndwich-version-for-users-of-the-samsung-i9000 Thanks Telep!
Edit2: Samsung might be rethinking this strategy: http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/27/2663320/samsung-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab-ics-upgrade-review Hurray!
What was wrong with the last thread?
Anyway, this is kind of a bummer. Shows that 18 month program was a whole load of hot air.
Also, the claim that Touchwiz won't run on top of ICS is trash. I wonder if the leaked S2 version can be ported. Perhaps making our own "official" rom could be quite effective way of getting them to buck their ideas up?
EDIT: Actually, the 18 months was after the S was released and the S has been out of 18 months already (Wow time flies), so point is void.
no need for that with TW, Google's stock is better
ICS ports here working better than Samsung's stock roms
I've signed all online petitions, but I'll be happy if they just release AOSP Compatible Drivers for all the components of our phone.
Maybe we should spam Google, asking them to tell Samsung to release drivers at least.
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gracias a la XDA genius developers
OK, I am complaining ,give us a ICS ROM.
what bout S+? i feel cheated. at least SGS gets 2 majot updates. S+ didn't even recieve any major updates! this will be my last samsucks phone. at least sony is loyal to their customers. even xperia play which has the same specs as S+ is getting ICS WTF! screw u samsung
They can make lightweight ROM, with possibility to download additional crapwizz apps and widgets from samsung apps.
To moderator: u can add the petition site. Last i saw there was 7300 sign. it must get more
Here you go
http://www.change.org/petitions/www...ndwich-version-for-users-of-the-samsung-i9000
So awful, I want official ICS
Not a complaint more an observation...
It's all well and good complaining but think of it this way, The majority of users don't know about ICS and don't care. They use it because it works fine, Samsung have dropped it not cause it's a bad phone but because it's a business practice that is used every day.
Just because it sold 10, 20 or 30 million units doesn't mean they'll continue to support as people will drop this phone when they contract is up which if bought at the start only have to put up with it for a few months more before getting an upgrade anyway.
Why should Samsung continue to develop for a phone that is starting to age in hardware compared to the newer flagships? Sure the Xperia Neo is getting it because it was released this year so it makes sense to.
Now I can understand to the i9003 and i9001 users having only been out this year but i9000 is different.
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Not a complaint more an observation...
It's all well and good complaining but think of it this way, The majority of users don't know about ICS and don't care. They use it because it works fine, Samsung have dropped it not cause it's a bad phone but because it's a business practice that is used every day.
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Just small addition: MINORITY, who even will notice lack of new OS, is able to go here and complain, so same effort would be required to have ICS thanks to work of the devs here.
Its an "old" phone, but a very good one, that's why we have devs la Onecosmic, doing amazing things to port ICS to those of us who still use the Great SGS I9000
That's not an old phone. I'm just 20 and my phone is 1.5 years old. Support your baby samsung.
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This phone is really similar to the Nexus S from same CPU, RAM, GPU, screen etc.... So there shouldn't be too many kernel address mismatches either.....
Either way, Sammy should remove some bloatware and touchwiz to make room for ICS to fit inside of SGS's system partition. That's pretty much it
P.S. Samsung signed "android alliance" to provide updates for it's handset for at least 18 months after first release. They will have to provide updates for new android releases until April fools.
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burakgon said:
That's not an old phone. I'm just 20 and my phone is 1.5 years old. Support your baby samsung.
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technology is considered old when a successor comes into the market. Right now, SGS2 is also considered old as SGS3 is due very soon
sgs should get ICS - after all this phone shook the entire mobile industry !
I hope they release it. I have removed RFS and now the phone is OK and i plan on keeping it until SGS3 at least. So basically ICS will be great if i can has it
if no ICS for Galaxy S, then Galaxy S is the last bought from Samsung.
It s a great device but Samsung doesnt deserve customer loyalty
Samsung will not deliver justified update no matter what! That's why I've exchanged my SGS for Nexus S and from now on will only upgrade on Googlephones!
Sammobile:
Galaxy S2 might not get Android 4.2 update, due to “adjustment problems with TouchWiz”
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/07/30...ate-due-to-adjustment-problems-with-touchwiz/
Bad news for all of us... :crying: :crying: :crying:
Samsung Touchwiz crap
Not going to flash even if they release 4.3. I prefer to be on CM. Much more smooth and better battery life.
Good said Modej,
I also using AOKP but with some touchwiz features 1. Because I like it touchwiz launcher.
And Second I want in AOKP that be another lockscreen but I think it's not possible :/
We only need egl blobs and kernel source from GS3 4.3 to run CM10.2 well (not stable but pretty decent like CM10.1).
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Not going to flash even if they release 4.3. I prefer to be on CM. Much more smooth and better battery life.
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Agree and disagree with your comment. 100% agree with the smoothness part but sammy 4.1.2 roms with a good stock kernel offer the best battery life (Up to 7hrs screen on time, my record was 6 hrs screen-on time spread over about 1 day)
What a lame excuse for not updating.
Sincerely shame on you Samsung.
I think it's not a surprise. Sammy couldn't give us usable exynos drivers for oasp. So they probably couldn't figure it out themselves. Looks bad anyway. ..
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codeworkx n xplodwild (not forgetting other developers) are quite capable to give us 4.3 (which we already have as courtsey of xplodwild..) ...
cm is way btr than sammy roms..
Stupid excuses from Samsung...but why the S2+ can get 4.2.2. .really stupid
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CM is not a solution as it is really buggy. Playing games is not even possible
Also it is laggy bcs of its own made drivers. Animation stutters in cm really frustrate me.
Battery life is also another problem
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Unfortunately, based on what other brands are doing, we cannot blame so much Samsung. We got last official update few weeks ago for a device which is in the market from beginning of 2011. Of course who bought the device one year after it was in the market (like me!) got a better price but having more or less one year of software support and counting mostly on XDA community to keep the device alive.
We should blame who has promised 18 months of updates but failed to keep their promises (I know HTC for example).
Most of the cases there are not technical reasons not updating devices but just marketing. I would be happy having 24 months as minimum software support.
Correct me if Im wrong but I havent read any on that article that it is official? So why go on rampage blaming Samsung on the statement which might be a fallacy? You will just stress yourself.
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Correct me if Im wrong but I havent read any on that article that it is official? So why go on rampage blaming Samsung on the statement which might be a fallacy? You will just stress yourself.
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Exactly.
It's just that once a rumor (a sensitive one here), starts up, it catches up pretty fast.
there are about 5-6 articles by now about this on various websites, each quoting eachother as references.. XD
Let's just wait because even S3 hasn't received 4.2 yet, and as always Samsung updates the newest first!
vj_dustin said:
Exactly.
It's just that once a rumor (a sensitive one here), starts up, it catches up pretty fast.
there are about 5-6 articles by now about this on various websites, each quoting eachother as references.. XD
Let's just wait because even S3 hasn't received 4.2 yet, and as always Samsung updates the newest first!
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I saw something about samsung skip the 4.2 and the 4.3 release directly to s3 and s2, do not ask me where, but I've been looking around, and also already be next to launch a test build for s3
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I saw something about samsung skip the 4.2 and the 4.3 release directly to s3 and s2, do not ask me where, but I've been looking around, and also already be next to launch a test build for s3
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4.3 seems a little far fetched. ....considering the aging of our device .I doubt Samsung will push any further updates for us ...
And its so silly. They said that s2+ will get the update bcuz it has more power than S2 (seems lik a marketing strategy 2 me)...
On tge the latest report it says Samsung owns 47% of all android devices.i think out of those 30% represents S2, S3 & S4 .
S2 still has a very large scale of users , its a shame Samsung is leaving us in the dark..
Well I guess its time to move on to S3 , S4 , N4 or H One ...
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But dont blame the Manufacturers too much
Everyone should think back to the Times where Android wasnt there
Symbian times for Example... Updates came pretty Slow BUT they came and where everytime pretty Bugfree and with Really Good Performance and all that
The Update Floods on the Android OS doesnt makes it any Easyer for the Manufacturers nor the Devs i think
Google makes everything very Complicated for everyone,and i am sure that all Manufacturers first gonna bring out the newest versions to the newest Phones
Why ...Pfff Because they Have to keep The NEW things more up to date then the Old .
Well I know other nonnexus android manufacturers are much worse. I'm not even sure the HTC Sensation and Xperia arc of 2011 received 4.1.2 yet.
But seriously samsung can't compare with those manufacturers as they are not as big as samsung.
Samsung should see how apple gives software updates to old phones as apple is the only manufacturer as big as samsung and hence their main competitor.
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hikarugo said:
Well I know other nonnexus android manufacturers are much worse. I'm not even sure the HTC Sensation and Xperia arc of 2011 received 4.1.2 yet.
But seriously samsung can't compare with those manufacturers as they are not as big as samsung.
Samsung should see how apple gives software updates to old phones as apple is the only manufacturer as big as samsung and hence their main competitor.
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Here is where you miss the point.
Apple has like what 5 devices to support?
3GS, 4, 4S, 5
Whereas Samsung has a portfolio the size of an Apple Farm.. XD
So they focus on the newer models which is natural, to boost their sales and try to keep up with others.
And while they do, Google keeps launching updates after updates.
One such example is,
Galaxy S Advance, It was supposed to get ICS but by the time it's turn came, ICS was outdated, so Samsung directly gave it GB to JB.
I think we will get our 4.2 update somewhere around my birthday in Nov'13
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Here is where you miss the point.
Apple has like what 5 devices to support?
3GS, 4, 4S, 5
Whereas Samsung has a portfolio the size of an Apple Farm.. XD
So they focus on the newer models which is natural, to boost their sales and try to keep up with others.
And while they do, Google keeps launching updates after updates.
One such example is,
Galaxy S Advance, It was supposed to get ICS but by the time it's turn came, ICS was outdated, so Samsung directly gave it GB to JB.
I think we will get our 4.2 update somewhere around my birthday in Nov'13
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I think what samsung should instead do is to give the best support for those who paid more for the premium Galaxy S line and note line, otherwise their image will be no better than their mid range and budget phones line.
It's their own fault since the beginning actually. Their flagships so far is S, S2, S3, S4, Note 1 and Note 2. However, each flagship got so many variants. For example, the S4 has 14 variants including the zoom and active according to wikipedia.
Samsung might be able to convince people to buy their product. However, I'm afraid they can't convince people to buy their product for the second time.
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Not exactly looking forward whether Samsung will push an update for us but they've got a point there. I think Samsung's not particularly concerned about customer satisfaction which means just like the others said that Samsung's likely to update the newer devices that's still in the market to increase their sales.
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Hi Guys,
SamMobile Tweet Samsung has stopped developement for the Galaxy SII and Galaxy Note.. No Android update
Oh well, kinda expected for this to happen.
Unfortunately with the Exynos code unavailable, most likely community development will also die down bit by bit.
What we want is an OFFICIAL statement regarding the issue, not this.
Sammobile was the one to say that 4.2.2 would be last on s2.
Now they say something different
My point - dun try until its official
I doubt the thieves and liars over at Samsung will even have the balls to post an official statement. They will just remain silent.
But we will remember this. 4.2 came out on 13 November 2012. 4.2.2 on 11 February 2013. So NOT #2years.
SGS IV now out, what you expected?! They should develop new software for new phones and new phones. I know SGS II the most complete phone in the world (in my opinion) but this is business
Waiting for my Nexus 7 2013 to arrive and i'll keep my SGS2 only for phone calls, sms and tehering to N7 if needed. Then i'll wait for Nexus 5 or something similar. Never going to buy a Samsung device again.
Even if they did, it could be that theyll release exynos source code now..
Costum Roms where better anyway
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I doubt the thieves and liars over at Samsung will even have the balls to post an official statement. They will just remain silent.
But we will remember this. 4.2 came out on 13 November 2012. 4.2.2 on 11 February 2013. So NOT #2years.
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They had to explain why Galaxy S wasn't getting ICS:
Official statement:
http://samsungtomorrow.com/2043
Some translation on
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_explains_why_galaxy_s_and_tab_70_wont_get_android_ics-news-3567.php
So they will have to jump on and explain the issue if Galaxy SII is staying on 4.1.2. Honestly, any reason they could give will be ridiculous and they will probably damage their image more in terms of money that what they would waste developing a 4.3 update and stopping there.
Also, actually both Galaxy SII and Nexus S started on 2.3 and Nexus S died on 4.1.2. If Galaxy SII gets abandoned at 4.1.2 also, Samsung will lose a great chance to overcome a Nexus in terms of updates (and if Samsung seeks for something, its for statements such as those).
In any logical terms killing Galaxy S2 would damage Samsung for than updating it..
I think that after finding all the bugs on there HW, couple of mounth ago, they won't publish there cpu code because there must be so much holes ' bus and traps that there reputaion will damge even more
Well it was nice while it lasted. I'm grateful to Gokhanmoral, Chainfire, the Cyanogenmod team and all the other dedicated developers that enriched our SII experience for these past two years.
With the promising Nexus 5 around the corner I'll be looking forward to see more from y'all!
If Samsung don't release a new update for S2, they will buy more new devices. It is all about business not because our S2 isn't capable to run (4.3). I think Nexus is a best alternative to Samsung.
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If Samsung don't release a new update for S2, they will buy more new devices. It is all about business not because our S2 isn't capable to run (4.3). I think Nexus is a best alternative to Samsung.
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There is lots of 4.4 roms in the forum. are they fake. i'm using one of them and it works flawles... So i think MY SGS2 IS CAPABLE OF 4.4 :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
I really don't care as long as they provide exynos documentation for the devs at XDA. Already running 4.4.2 without their help. Will keep it till it boots for the last time even if development stops.
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I really don't care as long as they provide exynos documentation for the devs at XDA. Already running 4.4.2 without their help. Will keep it till it boots for the last time even if development stops.
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Saw from your signature your SII setup, Dorimx kernel + SlimSaber is stable, any improvement you noticed/recommend? Tnx
camp0s said:
Saw from your signature your SII setup, Dorimx kernel + SlimSaber is stable, any improvement you noticed/recommend? Tnx
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It's very stable, great performance and good batt life ... Try it yourself and see
No real surprise there.
I hate that waiting......samsung is really lazy regarding updates!
I mean how hard is it to get the update done? Damn u sam.....!
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I hate that waiting......samsung is really lazy regarding updates!
I mean how hard is it to get the update done? Damn u sam.....!
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it is taking a while. I played with the 10.1 tab pro or whatever with the same specs and it runs much smoother.
It's odd. Here's the press release Samsung U.S. issued dated February 18. Not a single device on the list except for the N3 and SGS4 which were already in the process of receiving KitKat has received it.
Since Samsung literally floods the market with devices, I'm sure they're having a tough time keeping them straight to update. I'm sure we'll get it sometime soon. I hope.
The new Samsung tab 4 line-up are all loaded with KitKat...
but not for us
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a press release confirming 4.4 KitKat will soon be available for the following devices across all U.S. networks.
These are the Galaxy Note 3 and the Galaxy Note 2, the Galaxy S4, S4 Mini, S4 Active and S4 Zoom, plus the Galaxy S3 and S3 Mini.
The Galaxy Mega and Galaxy Light are also listed.
Moving on to tablets, the Galaxy Note 8.0, Galaxy Tab 3, Galaxy Note 10.1, and finally, the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition
will all be updated to version 4.4.
Samsung says all carrier variants will get the update.
The rollout begins on February 18 and will continue for several months. <===== "Several months" OMG !!!
I actually sent them an email a few days ago. Got a reply although it wasn't very helpful. Here's what they said:
Thank you for contacting Samsung Customer Support.
In regards to your email, unfortunately we do not yet have an official date for when this update will be released for your device.
I am sorry for the inconvenience caused by this.
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So done with Samsung.. Ugh..
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Still waiting for a higher version of android than 4.1.2 on the Samsung galaxy note 10.1 - N8000... It's only been 1 1/2 years since I got it but we're still stuck there on 4.1.2....
My tablet still works fine so I have no problem waiting. The latest leaked firmware does help tremendously though... it'll come eventually so relax yourselves
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Itchiee said:
My tablet still works fine so I have no problem waiting. The latest leaked firmware does help tremendously though... it'll come eventually so relax yourselves
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Link to firmware?
I'm assuming in that they will hold off as long as possible to release the update. They want to sell the new tab and note pro lines which makes sense. I'm shocked to see the new low end tab 4 lineup has it. Seems very fishy.
I think it's the same business tactic Verizon is using for the kitkat update in the bite 3 which annoys me. Mark my words they will release 4.4.2 to Verizon on day 15 post S5 release. Maximize their sales on the phone. So April 26 kitkat is released to those of us including myself with a note 3 on vzw. Sorry for the rant.
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They want to sell the new tab and note pro lines which makes sense.
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Not really. The only device(s) more expensive than the N10.1-14 are the 12" Pros. From a margin perspective I can't see the Tab Pro 10.1 making Samsung any more money than the N10.1-14.
I'm shocked to see the new low end tab 4 lineup has it. Seems very fishy.
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Google's finally started to exert themselves in leveraging "free Android" against access to Google Apps (Play content apps [movies, music, books, etc.], Google+, Google Play Services, and Chrome). They recently published requirements that, in order to get access, OEM's had to use the latest version of Android on new devices. In addition, the Samsung/Google cooperation agreement seems to have affected Samsung's s/w direction. Magazine UX went from a replacement UI when it was announced with multiple pages pre-configured including being featured as the primary home page to "Content Home" at launch. Half the widgets have been removed, the tiles that could launch any installed app are gone, and it's now one pre-configured page of news set as the last of the home pages. Samsung Hub which probably annoyed Google most as a competitor to Play Content is also gone with the Pros. Leaks of major changes to TW for the SGS5 never came to fruition either.
So something's fishy but my guess is it's more of a political realignment between titans than something to do with any singular device or series of devices. And if as part of the agreement Samsung's adjusting the content in future s/w releases and updates it could explain the delay. This is all supposition on my part but it's odd that a company with Samsung's resources hasn't pushed updates to over a dozen devices they've committed updates for in over two months.
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I'm assuming in that they will hold off as long as possible to release the update. They want to sell the new tab and note pro lines which makes sense. I'm shocked to see the new low end tab 4 lineup has it. Seems very fishy.
I think it's the same business tactic Verizon is using for the kitkat update in the bite 3 which annoys me. Mark my words they will release 4.4.2 to Verizon on day 15 post S5 release. Maximize their sales on the phone. So April 26 kitkat is released to those of us including myself with a note 3 on vzw. Sorry for the rant.
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I think that I'm not stretching when I say that probably more than 90% of phone and tablet buyers have absolutely no ideas what version of the operating system is on their device. Holding off on KitKat for a Note 10.1 has nothing to do with sales. It has to do with priorities and resources. I know from experience that good developers are put to work on new products and so-so developers are put on maintenance projects. I'm sure that Samsung is no different.
What I really want is a CM 10.1.. much better than any stock Samsung ROM. But I also see no development in that direction. There are too many devices out there. It's becoming chaos and just very few can catch the time and resources of the developers. Samsung products get worse and worse in quality, Android messier and less truly "open" while Goggle itself more and more controlling.. the whole thing is a mess. I am tired and disappointed. My first original Galaxy Tab 7 was and is still king. Surely getting slower by all current measures but STILL working like new. Amazing build quality, almost 4 years of development and still going.. I'm running 4.4.2 on it, flawlessly.. how ironic this is..
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What I really want is a CM 10.1.. much better than any stock Samsung ROM. But I also see no development in that direction. There are too many devices out there. It's becoming chaos and just very few can catch the time and resources of the developers. Samsung products get worse and worse in quality, Android messier and less truly "open" while Goggle itself more and more controlling.. the whole thing is a mess. I am tired and disappointed. My first original Galaxy Tab 7 was and is still king. Surely getting slower by all current measures but STILL working like new. Amazing build quality, almost 4 years of development and still going.. I'm running 4.4.2 on it, flawlessly.. how ironic this is..
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Well you can always try and start development for yourself.
The hardware in the note 10.1 is used in a lot of other devices that are already running KK so all necessary software and drivers should be available.
In theory it wouldn't be all that difficult to port the note pro 12 rom for example. I'm thinking about maybe giving it a go but I'm not really sure where to start.
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Well you can always try and start development for yourself.
The hardware in the note 10.1 is used in a lot of other devices that are already running Kk so all necessary software and drivers should be available.
In theory it wouldn't be all that difficult to port the note pro 12 rom for example. I'm thinking about maybe giving it a go but I'm not really sure where to start.
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Same here.. totally agree with you. A 10.1 build should not be so difficult to get together as the hardware is so similar to other machines. That would solve all problems once and for all. But like U, I have no idea where to start.. alone I can't do it. Small team would be great. I'm even willing to pitch some money to get this started and everyone motivated. I am a few days away from selling this tab and giving up. It's useless like it is for me. And I need make the dpi higher because all too small and badly formatted as it is with some of the apps I use at the default 320dpi.. but "darling" Samsung has done something further to this tab's main apps and framework so it will positively NOT boot at higher dpi settings (lower values OK, just not higher).. I tried all possible ways, dpi changing apps and ROMs (I have a P-605). No way. This tab is totally useless not me.. and not to mention I have a disastrous yellow tint on the display and no way to adjust or calibrate that either. Samsung is on the way out of my life.. we get s... t software, no updates and impossible to even try fix it.. is glorious.. I'm done and done..
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Same here.. totally agree with you. A 10.1 build should not be so difficult to get together as the hardware is so similar to other machines. That would solve all problems once and for all. But like U, I have no idea where to start.. alone I can't do it. Small team would be great. I'm even willing to pitch some money to get this started and everyone motivated. I am a few days away from selling this tab and giving up. It's useless like it is for me. And I need make the dpi higher because all too small and badly formatted as it is with some of the apps I use at the default 320dpi.. but "darling" Samsung has done something further to this tab's main apps and framework so it will positively NOT boot at higher dpi settings (lower values OK, just not higher).. I tried all possible ways, dpi changing apps and ROMs (I have a P-605). No way. This tab is totally useless not me.. and not to mention I have a disastrous yellow tint on the display and no way to adjust or calibrate that either. Samsung is on the way out of my life.. we get s... t software, no updates and impossible to even try fix it.. is glorious.. I'm done and done..
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I'd be up for giving it a try with some people.
I have a strong background in IT and software and have some limited programming knowledge so I should be able to get all this.
This guide might be a nice place to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908008
Maybe we can set up a seperate thread if we can get some people on board.
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I'd be up for giving it a try with some people.
I have a strong background in IT and software and have some limited programming knowledge so I should be able to get all this.
This guide might be a nice place to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908008
Maybe we can set up a seperate thread if we can get some people on board.
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I'm totally up for it. Count me in and let's do it. But remember there are 2 fundamentally different machines.. the Exynos and the Qualcomm/LTE (like mine) are different animals in many ways..
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I'm totally up for it. Count me in and let's do it. But remember there are 2 fundamentally different machines.. the Exynos and the Qualcomm/LTE (like mine) are different animals in many ways..
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I totally agree, howerver I hope the porting process will not be that much different.
A succesful port on one model will probably make the porting process for the other a lot easier to pull off.
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I totally agree, howerver I hope the porting process will not be that much different.
A succesful port on one model will probably make the porting process for the other a lot easier to pull off.
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Let's start a new thread and can some talent gathered and together to get this done! And U want developan overclocking kernel for the P-605. Qualcomm CPUs can go very high.. my HP TouchPad with a venerable Dual-core 1.2GHz running KitKat is overclocked to 2.1GHz stable. I've had this machine for 3 years.. First Gingerbrea, then ICS, then finally CM 10.1. Initially overclocked to 1.7, later 1.9 and finally 2.1 wwith KitKat. Yeah, it runs hot.. but who cares? Rock solid for 3 years and going strong. I bet the 2.3GHz Snapdragon can go easily past 2.5 or 2.7.. and this Tab is large.. plenty of space to dissipate heat.. If we can get CM 10.1 running and push the CPU, this will be an amazing machine..