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Honeycomb 3.2 update for the SGT?

The Xoom (USA Wifi version) users are having their official 3.2 updates OTA now!
http://tablets-planet.com/2011/07/1...arts-to-arrive-for-some-wi-fi-motorola-xooms/
Where is ours?
I dont even have the 3.1 update for my 10.1v.

Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.

nMIK-3 said:
Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.

Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out

Wait for Touchwiz before Android 3.2

mchimney said:
You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
Itaintrite said:
Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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That's pretty much the case.

Now that TW is coming. No way we'll see 3.2 anytime soon. Not a chance with Samsungs history.

nMIK-3 said:
Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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I would disagree somewhat. The Galaxy S has been upgraded to Gingerbread on European versions of the phone. While updates for phones in the past have been lagging I would view that Samsung has taken a new approach as of late. The majority of the phones released around the same time period as the Galaxy S line have not received the Gingerbread update either. I would respond to you and ask for another cell phone manufacturer who is doing it better? Also besides zoom to fit (which spare parts will fix) there's not much benefit of 3.2 for us. The update adds zoom to fit, finally enables SD cards on the Xoom, and is more optimized to fit on 7" tablets i.e. 7-inch Huawei MediaPad.
As for Touchwiz I felt V3 was in need of much work (it does appear to be revamped a tad and smoother on the latest Fascinate GB leak) however V4 on the SGII has me sold on it being the default launcher on my phone. It is butter smooth and I love how it is laid out. If you were to poll the majority of Android users on XDA I would wager over 75% are unhappy with their stock manufacturer's launcher. I am looking forward to what Samsung will bring to the table.
I myself believe that Honeycomb is still very "beta-ish" in its current state. It was rushed and is extremely buggy. I think releasing the source code would help immensely as devs could iron out bugs (which they nicely do for Google now on the phone side). However, I do not believe it will be released before a transition into Ice Cream Sandwich.

Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???

POLO_i780 said:
Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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There's a HC 3.1 ROM by seo available in the 10.1v section - incl. TouchWiz.

Dont know
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Itaintrite said:
Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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This sounds about right. Especially the "maybe."

seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.

eugene22n said:
seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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It's not just about smaller screen tablets. It brings some small bug fixes also:
There is no lag on up side down home screen. Portrait is also better but not much.
Browser seems a little faster and typing a message on XDA doesn't lag as bad as it did on 3.1
I was also planning to buy SGT, but now I'm not sure anymore. I don't want to wait for updates. In this regard, the US Xoom is the best tablet. Only downside is that the US 3G version doesn't work in Europe and i want a tablet with 3G connectivity.

I got the update(wifi Only). Any one have a clue how to access it? Or make Sgt use it? The SD card i mean..lol

There isn't a 3.2 update for Galaxy Tab, and there is no SD card either. Troll somewhere else

I've been a forum reader/poster for over 20 years. Seen many things and read many posts. I know trolls and I know funny.
It's safe to say that the threads that I've read on the XDA forums have the most people with lack of sense of humor than any I've been a part of.
Why is that?

I didn't think it was funny... It was a clear troll post.

Could the 10.1 run 3.2 from the Zoom, or does it have to be made specifically for the Samsung 10.1?
Because supposedly reverse landscape and portrait mode performance are improved, near regular landscape performance.

Thanks for making my point.

[RUMORS] Galaxy S2 might not get Android 4.2

Sammobile:
Galaxy S2 might not get Android 4.2 update, due to “adjustment problems with TouchWiz”
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/07/30...ate-due-to-adjustment-problems-with-touchwiz/
Bad news for all of us... :crying: :crying: :crying:

Samsung Touchwiz crap
Not going to flash even if they release 4.3. I prefer to be on CM. Much more smooth and better battery life.

Good said Modej,
I also using AOKP but with some touchwiz features 1. Because I like it touchwiz launcher.
And Second I want in AOKP that be another lockscreen but I think it's not possible :/

We only need egl blobs and kernel source from GS3 4.3 to run CM10.2 well (not stable but pretty decent like CM10.1).

Modej said:
Not going to flash even if they release 4.3. I prefer to be on CM. Much more smooth and better battery life.
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Agree and disagree with your comment. 100% agree with the smoothness part but sammy 4.1.2 roms with a good stock kernel offer the best battery life (Up to 7hrs screen on time, my record was 6 hrs screen-on time spread over about 1 day)

What a lame excuse for not updating.
Sincerely shame on you Samsung.

I think it's not a surprise. Sammy couldn't give us usable exynos drivers for oasp. So they probably couldn't figure it out themselves. Looks bad anyway. ..
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codeworkx n xplodwild (not forgetting other developers) are quite capable to give us 4.3 (which we already have as courtsey of xplodwild..) ...
cm is way btr than sammy roms..

Stupid excuses from Samsung...but why the S2+ can get 4.2.2. .really stupid
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CM is not a solution as it is really buggy. Playing games is not even possible
Also it is laggy bcs of its own made drivers. Animation stutters in cm really frustrate me.
Battery life is also another problem
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Unfortunately, based on what other brands are doing, we cannot blame so much Samsung. We got last official update few weeks ago for a device which is in the market from beginning of 2011. Of course who bought the device one year after it was in the market (like me!) got a better price but having more or less one year of software support and counting mostly on XDA community to keep the device alive.
We should blame who has promised 18 months of updates but failed to keep their promises (I know HTC for example).
Most of the cases there are not technical reasons not updating devices but just marketing. I would be happy having 24 months as minimum software support.

Correct me if Im wrong but I havent read any on that article that it is official? So why go on rampage blaming Samsung on the statement which might be a fallacy? You will just stress yourself.

deedii said:
Correct me if Im wrong but I havent read any on that article that it is official? So why go on rampage blaming Samsung on the statement which might be a fallacy? You will just stress yourself.
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Exactly.
It's just that once a rumor (a sensitive one here), starts up, it catches up pretty fast.
there are about 5-6 articles by now about this on various websites, each quoting eachother as references.. XD
Let's just wait because even S3 hasn't received 4.2 yet, and as always Samsung updates the newest first!

vj_dustin said:
Exactly.
It's just that once a rumor (a sensitive one here), starts up, it catches up pretty fast.
there are about 5-6 articles by now about this on various websites, each quoting eachother as references.. XD
Let's just wait because even S3 hasn't received 4.2 yet, and as always Samsung updates the newest first!
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I saw something about samsung skip the 4.2 and the 4.3 release directly to s3 and s2, do not ask me where, but I've been looking around, and also already be next to launch a test build for s3

mauriicio21 said:
I saw something about samsung skip the 4.2 and the 4.3 release directly to s3 and s2, do not ask me where, but I've been looking around, and also already be next to launch a test build for s3
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4.3 seems a little far fetched. ....considering the aging of our device .I doubt Samsung will push any further updates for us ...
And its so silly. They said that s2+ will get the update bcuz it has more power than S2 (seems lik a marketing strategy 2 me)...
On tge the latest report it says Samsung owns 47% of all android devices.i think out of those 30% represents S2, S3 & S4 .
S2 still has a very large scale of users , its a shame Samsung is leaving us in the dark..
Well I guess its time to move on to S3 , S4 , N4 or H One ...
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But dont blame the Manufacturers too much
Everyone should think back to the Times where Android wasnt there
Symbian times for Example... Updates came pretty Slow BUT they came and where everytime pretty Bugfree and with Really Good Performance and all that
The Update Floods on the Android OS doesnt makes it any Easyer for the Manufacturers nor the Devs i think
Google makes everything very Complicated for everyone,and i am sure that all Manufacturers first gonna bring out the newest versions to the newest Phones
Why ...Pfff Because they Have to keep The NEW things more up to date then the Old .

Well I know other nonnexus android manufacturers are much worse. I'm not even sure the HTC Sensation and Xperia arc of 2011 received 4.1.2 yet.
But seriously samsung can't compare with those manufacturers as they are not as big as samsung.
Samsung should see how apple gives software updates to old phones as apple is the only manufacturer as big as samsung and hence their main competitor.
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hikarugo said:
Well I know other nonnexus android manufacturers are much worse. I'm not even sure the HTC Sensation and Xperia arc of 2011 received 4.1.2 yet.
But seriously samsung can't compare with those manufacturers as they are not as big as samsung.
Samsung should see how apple gives software updates to old phones as apple is the only manufacturer as big as samsung and hence their main competitor.
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Here is where you miss the point.
Apple has like what 5 devices to support?
3GS, 4, 4S, 5
Whereas Samsung has a portfolio the size of an Apple Farm.. XD
So they focus on the newer models which is natural, to boost their sales and try to keep up with others.
And while they do, Google keeps launching updates after updates.
One such example is,
Galaxy S Advance, It was supposed to get ICS but by the time it's turn came, ICS was outdated, so Samsung directly gave it GB to JB.
I think we will get our 4.2 update somewhere around my birthday in Nov'13

vj_dustin said:
Here is where you miss the point.
Apple has like what 5 devices to support?
3GS, 4, 4S, 5
Whereas Samsung has a portfolio the size of an Apple Farm.. XD
So they focus on the newer models which is natural, to boost their sales and try to keep up with others.
And while they do, Google keeps launching updates after updates.
One such example is,
Galaxy S Advance, It was supposed to get ICS but by the time it's turn came, ICS was outdated, so Samsung directly gave it GB to JB.
I think we will get our 4.2 update somewhere around my birthday in Nov'13
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I think what samsung should instead do is to give the best support for those who paid more for the premium Galaxy S line and note line, otherwise their image will be no better than their mid range and budget phones line.
It's their own fault since the beginning actually. Their flagships so far is S, S2, S3, S4, Note 1 and Note 2. However, each flagship got so many variants. For example, the S4 has 14 variants including the zoom and active according to wikipedia.
Samsung might be able to convince people to buy their product. However, I'm afraid they can't convince people to buy their product for the second time.
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Not exactly looking forward whether Samsung will push an update for us but they've got a point there. I think Samsung's not particularly concerned about customer satisfaction which means just like the others said that Samsung's likely to update the newer devices that's still in the market to increase their sales.
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Lollipop Android 5.0

Lollipop Android 5.0 will come for note 3? Note 2 received kitkat in march/April similarly Note 3 will get Lollipop in March?April? whats u guys opinion?

jdomadia said:
Lollipop Android 5.0 will come for note 3? Note 2 received kitkat in march/April similarly Note 3 will get Lollipop in March?April? whats u guys opinion?
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I must be outdated.
I thought the name was key lime pie? or something pie like that?
but it will be good if we can have it by then.
:good:
Sent from somewhere under the sky, at the corner of this rounded earth.

Could even be something like banana pie or even cream pie
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It is alphabetically named.
E for éclair
F for froyo(frozen yoghurt)
G for ginger bread
H for honeycomb
I for ice cream sandwich
J for jellybean
K for KitKat
and all are named after desserts
So now the alphabet is L...
So it could be any dessert starting with L
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not much exited
the update is just like few bugs solved and even more security staff not for your privacy no , its just more things for Knox crap and things makes you pissed off from them and coming to xda to deal with its - also there update took time after Google released it don't expect the new ui or even s5 feature this is the way Samsung update there phones - really you cant enjoy samsung phone more than a year or two .

I wonder what could be when is the S time???
Sweet sh*t...
Stinking strawberry...
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Lonzo_SGS2_506 said:
I wonder what could be when is the S time???
Sweet sh*t...
Stinking strawberry...
sent while I ride my Yamaha
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Or.. Strawberry Shortcake or... Strudel lol
We'll probably end up going through Android 4.5 though before we see the next big release.

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Wow in list of Samsung Note 3 is ON TOP
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Android L = Android lollipop

wil it be available for note 2 n7100?

rohan164 said:
wil it be available for note 2 n7100?
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Will it be available for a 25 month old device that has had 2 major upgrades; when Google contracts only allow for 18 monts or 2 major updates.
I'm sure you can figure out the answer. But if not, it's NO.
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You always can get it by rooting your device mate. Happy flashing ...
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Hey... any idea or link there for Android 5.0 (i hate the fvckin' name) on SM-N9005 (Note 3)?

:silly:
redndian said:
It is alphabetically named.
E for éclair
F for froyo(frozen yoghurt)
G for ginger bread
H for honeycomb
I for ice cream sandwich
J for jellybean
K for KitKat
and all are named after desserts
So now the alphabet is L...
So it could be any dessert starting with L
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The name of the next android version marshmallow:fingers-crossed:

zangoo said:
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The name of the next android version marshmallow:fingers-crossed:
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Hm! Sounds proper! They also sometimes use brand candy names (kit-kat) so if it ain't marshmallow then my second guess is definitely on Milky-way.

ShadowLea said:
Will it be available for a 25 month old device that has had 2 major upgrades; when Google contracts only allow for 18 monts or 2 major updates.
I'm sure you can figure out the answer. But if not, it's NO.
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If not it should be. The Note 2 is still quite a powerful device for its time, and I own a Note 3. It's asinine that two years of age somehow makes this technology obsolete, and antique. If Note 2 ran Kitkat, what stops it from running Lollipop, especially considering that Lollipop will run more optimally than its previous incarnations. These companies know this, but are too money hungry to care.

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If not it should be. The Note 2 is still quite a powerful device for its time, and I own a Note 3. It's asinine that two years of age somehow makes this technology obsolete, and antique. If Note 2 ran Kitkat, what stops it from running Lollipop, especially considering that Lollipop will run more optimally than its previous incarnations. These companies know this, but are too money hungry to care.
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It's always been this way.
In the technological world a device is outdated the moment it rolls off the assembly line. Such was the case with the first computers, and it remains that way.
Two years seems a short time to the people who spend several hundred hard-earned quid on a device, but in the world of technological advances, it's centuries.
Just because the customers think otherwise doesn't change anything.
I have a Note 2 as well and I would love to see it updated to Lollipop. I know it could run it. But I also know better than that. Contracts between companies are binding. That's it, the end.
It won't happen. No matter how much we want it to, how powerful the hardware is or how unfair it seems.
You have to realize how many updates they have to push out every time, and then realize how many more it becomes if they had to support every device they ever made. At any time, Samsung is processing upwards of 2100 updates. Every single time there's an update. Here, I explained it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55385445
Read that, and then imagine adding every single device older than 18 months to that list. Do you really think that's humanly possible? Because it's not.
And there's the very important fact that if companies had to continue their focus on old devices, they'd run out of money and time to make new ones. If they used that system, we'd still be using 1Ghz single cores and non-functional touchscreens. Progress demands casualties, I believe the old saying goes.
We may not like it, but that's how it works. Calling them greedy and evil is simply an excuse to not have to face the truth that our demands are impossible. If we demand the Note 2, others have a right to demand the S3. And the S2. And the S1. And the Galaxy Nexus. And the list goes on, because they all want it.

Hi buddy,
Thanks a lot for this wonderful work.
This is an awesome ROM and working flawless.
I am having one problem but not sure if it's a real bug or only my problem.
I have flashed V7.0 with full wipe on my Note 3 International (N9005), everything working great but whenever I am calling or receiving any call, The incoming voice volume is very less (even though I have made the volume control full).. It's very hard to understand if I am travelling or the person on other side is speaking gently.
any fix for this will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
Callprabs

callprabs said:
Hi buddy,
Thanks a lot for this wonderful work.
This is an awesome ROM and working flawless.
I am having one problem but not sure if it's a real bug or only my problem.
I have flashed V7.0 with full wipe on my Note 3 International (N9005), everything working great but whenever I am calling or receiving any call, The incoming voice volume is very less (even though I have made the volume control full).. It's very hard to understand if I am travelling or the person on other side is speaking gently.
any fix for this will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
Callprabs
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Wrong thread I believe.

7 mths old and still no 4.4.3/4.4.4

So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?

locutusx said:
So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?
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What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.

is any Samsung device running 4.4.3? To my understanding the Tab S and Galaxy S5 are still on 4.4.2. The cosmetic updates in 4.4.3 won't be noticed since Touchwiz covers them up anyway. I read Samsung implemented the 4.4.4 security patches in it's own separate firmware updates.

Well, the webview enhancements in 4.4.3 improve performance of any app which uses webview.
Also, pretty sure I saw quite a few mentions of various other Sammy devices getting 4.4.3 firmwares uploaded onto sammobile.com which was starting to irk me.

As long as I get android L I'm happy
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The biggest problem I have with it isn't the lack of an update, but the sluggishness of the OS. It's an octa-core processor with a 1.9gHz clock speed on four of them! Also the Wifi was better on my iPad 2 than on this brand new device!
Should've chosen something with a Quallcom processor, then I could have some decent custom ROMs...

A 4.4.4 update came out yesterday (9/10) for my T-Mobile Galaxy S4, so hopefully that mean it'll come out for the Tab Pro soon. The update does not update the UI. I'm not aware of a 4.4.4 update for other S4 and the S5. I believe T-Mobile pushed the update because it includes a new in-flight (airplane) text function/service they'll advertise next week.

Act of good faith
BarryH_GEG said:
What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.
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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.

There is NO Galaxy Tab with Android >4.4.2 - so why do you moan they don't care about Tab Pro users when there is no newer version on newer tablets (e.g. Tab S)?

weiguxp said:
The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.
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Once Samsung have your money they really don't give a damn about supporting your product.
My Galaxy W (i8150) was abandoned by them within 6 months of release and never received an update from GB to ICS even though similar age and spec models by them did.
The S3 has been dumped at JB 4.3 because they can't fit all their bloatware into the KK ROM.
The TabPRO seems to be EOL after less than a year.....
It's par for the course with Sammy unfortunately - which is why we are lucky to have such an amazing amount of support from Dev's on XDA.

locutusx said:
Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon...
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I don't expect to be able to hold the 4:3 Nexus 8" tablet in one hand, like I do with my Tab Pro 8.4.
I also imagine it won't have an SD Card.
But the regular OS updates to seem tempting.

My hand gets tired very quickly when I try to hold the Tab Pro 8.4 in one hand, so I don't see the Nexus 8 being any different in that regard.
I'm only using 900MB of the 64GB SD Card in my Tab Pro -- 62GB free.
Reason is, there are barely any apps I can move to SD card, and even then there are side-effects like the icon won't stay on my home screen so I end up just moving them back to main memory. Also I have Google All-Access Music so I don't need to keep lots of music on my tablet. And for videos/movies, I use Netflix and PLEX so no need to keep videos locally on the tablet. So obviously, i'd be ok with a Nexus tablet without SD card slot. ( But I would still try to go for a 32GB+ )
Also, i have some minor build quality issues with my Tab Pro 8.4 -- in particular there seems to be some very minor "squeaky/creaky" noises when I touch certain areas of the touch screen or around the bezel. Not a serious issue, mind you, but in contrast both my Nexus S and Nexus 4 have zero build quality issues.

Hey, I saw on twitter today that the "T-Mobile" version of the Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) is getting a 4.4.4 update soon!
Good news, right? Becuase it means the GTP version of that firmware update may be coming up soon afterwards. At least for the GTP 10.1" version.
Not sure about the GTP 8.4, it's pretty different from the Note 10.1 ...

I use link2sd app in the playstore great app, been using for a few years now. Native app2sd is not that great
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Just use a custom ROM and you will have a newer version. I have already lost faith in Samsung for their software.

I have a new slogan for Samsung, "It is, what it is". You could follow that with "take it or leave it" I bought my gt p 8.4 with no expectation of any updates. If I get one I will be thrilled.
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Full/Debloated - Rooted - DeOdex - T320XAR1ANG1 - (08/03/14)
I have been rockin with:
Full/Debloated - Rooted - DeOdex - T320XAR1ANG1 - (08/03/14) on my T320.
This thing runs almost as good as my Note 3 running Alliance.
I tried the Daydream ROM and it was VERY lite on system storage but it had issues with some of my gaming.
It's nice to re live the good old Game Boy Advance and N64 days on this huge high res screen...
The lack of a OTG USB controller puts my Moga Pro Power to great use.
I use my Note 3 to email the boss to let him know that I cant get to work until the ice melts.
GAME ON ANYWHERE

Is the latest always the greatest?
Not always!
Do you remember SD card disaster with 4.4.x?

Samsung has a great upgrade program. Every time a new version of Android is released, they release a new tablet running it.
But seriously, I'm not too concerned about 4.4.2 to 4.4.4. I would rather they develop a Lollipop release. Fine with me if they take a couple of months to get it right. I'll be needing it on the Tab Pro 8.4 and Note 10.1 (2014).

I give up. Time to get rid of the Note Pro

I really liked the size of this tablet and thought that Samsung would at least keep the software updated for a little longer than they did.
No new version, seems like they made the new version for Windows OS only.
I gave up and got a Tab S3, maybe one day Samsung will make another larger Android tablet.
Until then, my pristine Note Pro is heading for swappa.

You are going to get rid of your 'pristine Note Pro' just because the OS isn't updated? I don't get it. I can use mine for a lot of productivity apps even though it isn't being updated to the latest OS version.

You might consider installing a rom from here like Lineage and getting full Nougat, changed the entire experience, and on a par with my wife's iPad Pro now. Where there's a will, there's a way.
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You do realize Google's contracts with manufacturers only last 2 years? The only devices that are updated after two years are Pixels and Apple. The NotePro is 3 years old. The contract for the updates ended 12 months ago.
I have never understood this obsession people have with updates. What, does the device stop working when it doesn't get a new update?
I'm a massive fan of 'If it isn't broken, don't fix it.'
My NotePro is on P905XXUANC3/P905DBTANC3. March 2014, 4.4.2.
My Note 3 is still on the very stable N9005XXUENB7/N9005DBTENB2. February 2014, 4.4.2.
I have absolutely no desire to update my device at the risk of reduced battery life, bugs and issues. And before anyone goes "That doesn't happen", the Bluetooth issues with 5.0 most definitely did happen. It works perfectly, why the hell would I compromise that?
I hear this nonsense a lot. "I want to end my contract because you haven't updated yet!" "I'm never buying a Samsung again because the phone wasn't updated 4 years after it came out!" Last week someone was whining about how it was fraud that his S3 didn't get Nougat.(!) The only thing missing is stomping feet and holding breath.

People can do what they want with their own devices. I love updates, but won't whine when I don't get them. My Note Pro is running Lineage and is running like a new device. I have no issues. I also had no issues on the stock ROM and would not consider my productivity in jeopardy because I don't have the latest updates. I do agree that some are a little more emotional about such things than seems reasonable. I don't see how a devices usefulness is reduced because of the lack of updates.

I agree. Although I would like to see some security updates to protect me from the bad guys.

ShadowLea said:
You do realize Google's contracts with manufacturers only last 2 years? The only devices that are updated after two years are Pixels and Apple. The NotePro is 3 years old. The contract for the updates ended 12 months ago.
I have never understood this obsession people have with updates. What, does the device stop working when it doesn't get a new update?
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Obsession? Stop posting such nonsense. Samsung stopped issuing updates for what used to be their highend device after a year and a half. And that is really disappointing. Especially when the device was still being sold long after that.

One thing i will add is that most devices are designed to run optimally when they are released on the os of the initial release. Even further updates by the manufacturer invariably compromise the performance of the device.
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admisi said:
One thing i will add is that most devices are designed to run optimally when they are released on the os of the initial release. Even further updates by the manufacturer invariably compromise the performance of the device.
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Not according to my experience with Tab 2 7.0, Tab 3 8.0 and S4. I have updated them all to the latest LineageOS and they all perform better than when they were new. The reason they don't update their devices is obvious, it costs money, and they want people to buy new devices.

To me, as a junkie for custom Android versions, I find the lack of a Samsung update untroubling. Currently I'm running a version of marshmallow hacked from the Samsung tab s2 by @bonuzzz to run on this. Works a charm and runs apps such as soundcamp that make this baby seem new.
And... I note there's an android 7 just being released for the above tablet... so maybe bonuzzz or someone else will port it over for us as well.
It's a good time to own one of these babies from my point of view.

ShadowLea said:
I'm a massive fan of 'If it isn't broken, don't fix it.'
My NotePro is on P905XXUANC3/P905DBTANC3. March 2014, 4.4.2.
My Note 3 is still on the very stable N9005XXUENB7/N9005DBTENB2. February 2014, 4.4.2.
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The "don't fix it if it ain't broken" idea here is totally irrelevant. People don't want to update because it is broken but because they want the new functionalities!! NotePro is not just a random low level tablet, it's an excellent one and it should have at least been updated to Android 6.

First of all my notepro runs on stock 5.02 from samsung.. And it is still working like a charm.. The problem I have now is that I am starting to run out of storage space and 5.02 has the stupid implementation of the extended storage also being the internal storage, not the SD. So a lot of apps don't install the huge data on SD but also internal.. And Samsung comes with too much bloatware that is also only getting bigger after each update..
So after a lot of years I see myself forced now to do one out of 2 things:
1. Get root and delete a lot of samsung bs apps
2. install a totally different rom
what would you advise?

Any one of those (1. or 2.) can and will brick something that you used to use. Most likely the S-pen functions. But there are other horror stories out their about doing what you want to do and the user finding a problem later.

admisi said:
You might consider installing a rom from here like Lineage and getting full Nougat, changed the entire experience
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Do they fully support the S-Pen?

andytiedye said:
Do they fully support the S-Pen?
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Yes and no. Lineage supports S Pen, but you don't get the Touchwiz stuff such as S Note etc, but easily substituted with Squid from the Play Store, which in my opinion is better.

Some of us don't have the option of custom ROMs. I am stuck with either unrooted Lollipop or rooted KitKat. Funny how some criticize others for wanting to have current software on their expensive devices...

(2017) S-Pen Backwards Compatability
billinaz said:
I gave up and got a Tab S3, maybe one day Samsung will make another larger Android tablet.
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Does the (2017) S-Pen from the Tab S3 happen to work on the Note 12.2?
Thanks!

I'm convinced that now is the best time to own one of these tablets. In fact, I bought an SM-P907a last night. This is based on my ownership of a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1(2014) for the last couple years. This has been running stock Rom, because it's an SM-P605v. So far, no one's been able to figure out how to root it or upgrade it past Android 5.1.1. Even so, Google is continuing to upgrade Google Play Services, making these Samsung devices the best product on the market bar none. They're no longer the fastest on the market, but are better featured than anything out there, including the Surface Pro, IPad Pro, and yes, even the Samsung Tab S3 (It has no connectivity capabilities, and I personally like the fact that the Galaxy Pro, and Note 10.1 have the S Pen mounted internally). The reasons I've decided to buy the Galaxy Pro amount to screen real estate for sketching, and display of my sheet music while I'm playing and singing. My advice, keep your tablet. You're not going to find anything to replace it that will really meet your expectations for some time yet. I'm planning on using the Galaxy Pro for at least a couple of years, advance giving the Note 10.1 to my wife.

If you are willing to root your Note Pro P900, there are two different roms recently posted under development that port the Samsung S2's version of Marshmallow -- complete w/ Samsung apps and touchwiz -- to this tablet.
"Yet Another Marshmallow Rom" (this is the one I am using at the moment)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/development/p900-marshmallow-rom-t3604194
And this one (camera doesn't work with it):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/development/p900-touchwiz-marshmallow-t3567916
I post these here because they not only allow upgrading to Marshmallow while keeping the Samsung Touchwiz vibe, they also allow installing some apps the Pro 12.2 couldn't run otherwise. Soundcamp, and at least two art programs.
So don't give up on the Pro 12.2 yet.
Blessings.

Kingsman1 said:
I bought an SM-P907a last night.
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shonkin said:
If you are willing to root your Note Pro P900, there are two different roms recently posted under development that port the Samsung S2's version of Marshmallow -- complete w/ Samsung apps and touchwiz -- to this tablet.
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He has a 907a. No ROMs.