[Q] Proposition of splitting forums 10.1/10.1v - Galaxy Tab 10.1 General

Would it be better if we had split the forums into 10.1 I/O LE and 10.1v along with the new ones coming out? It seems as though the development for it along with a few features seems to be splitting them in different posts throughout the forum. They are almost similar but at the same time it seems that they aren't. Apparently we have multiple versions of them coming out and this seems to be the line-up after their release.
10.1v (Original/First)
10.1 I/O LE (Given at I/O) 32gb wifi
Coming out:
10.1 Wifi 16gb
10.1 Wifi 32gb
10.1 4G LTE 16gb
10.1 4G LTE 32gb
Is this going to make the forums extremely complicated after all these releases?

Hardly anyone posts about the 10.1v. Apart from 4G and memory all the 10.1s are the same. All share the same software so there is little point in splitting up the forum. Probably best have another look when the 8.9s come along.

10.1v market is so small that i don't think there's need for that. Most of us Europeans are getting 10.1 after all.
When 10.1 hits i don't think people will be even able to spot 10.1v threads.
Though you are right with the different version there will be certainly some confusion, just starting from the wifi version not having microsd from people who have not followed 10.1 so closely, but i don't think there's much we can do or really should do about it.

tissotti said:
Though you are right with the different version there will be certainly some confusion, just starting from the wifi version not having microsd from people who have not followed 10.1 so closely, but i don't think there's much we can do or really should do about it.
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Yeah this is the difficult part.
Another thing that would be difficult is this. 10.1 LE has 3.0 vanilla honeycomb and soon to be 3.1. The upcoming 10.1 tabs will have 3.1 with touchwiz which will also making things confusing >_<

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Galaxy tab 10.1 support and community size

What's the support and community size of the Galaxy tab 10.1 right now? I tried to do a search and I only found this forum to be the most active. Im curious because the tablet looks great but I also do like the idea of having development and a support community. The Xoom and Transformer seem to have a decent sized community. I'm just worried i'll have this badass tablet with no roms or any kind of help.
Also does the galaxy have usb host? If i buy that adaptor, can i start accessing external harddrives and usb flash drives in file explorers?
It will take some time till the Galaxy 10.1 community grows! Consider that the retail tab (not the IO or 10.1V) is in stores for about one week for now!
When I think back on the XDA forums for the other devices I had it was always the same: it took about one or two months from the public launch till some sort of "critical mass" was achieved...
Personally I think that the 10.1 3G will be a success, so the only thing we have to do is to wait a little
Concerning USB-host:
Yes, USB-host capabilities are there! You can use devices like your mouse, keyboards, hard-drives (some need external power though)...
TML1504 said:
It will take some time till the Galaxy 10.1 community grows! Consider that the retail tab (not the IO or 10.1V) is in stores for about one week for now!
When I think back on the XDA forums for the other devices I had it was always the same: it took about one or two months from the public launch till some sort of "critical mass" was achieved...
Personally I think that the 10.1 3G will be a success, so the only thing we have to do is to wait a little
Concerning USB-host:
Yes, USB-host capabilities are there! You can use devices like your mouse, keyboards, hard-drives (some need external power though)...
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Wait, when was the galaxy tab released? I thought it came out early June?? If it has been only a week or two that would definitely make sense haha
Is the harddrive issue needing external power something that could possibly be addressed in the future with custom roms and updates? Or is that some hardware restriction? I had the Toshiba thrive (sent it back) and it seemed to read and write anything like a monster.
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Wait, when was the galaxy tab released? I thought it came out early June?? If it has been only a week or two that would definitely make sense haha
Is the harddrive issue needing external power something that could possibly be addressed in the future with custom roms and updates? Or is that some hardware restriction? I had the Toshiba thrive (sent it back) and it seemed to read and write anything like a monster.
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All versions released before last week are/were preliminary ones! Samsung planned to release the tab ~3months ago (the 10.1V version), but then decided to redesign it a bit (thinner, lighter) so that it would compete well with the ipad2!
The "real" launch of the overhauled tab in Europe was last week (and in some countries it's still not available, also due to a lawsuit with apple). In my country (Austria) the launch took place last week, although available quantities are still very low, the price still relatively high (~EUR600)!
Regarding the USB-host:
The specification says any USB port should provide 500mA, I'm not sure if this value is reached by the tab-port. If yes then it should be no problem! If no it depends on the drive if it functions or not!
Custom roms can change power settings some times, this depends how the hardware is configured (if it is "stong" enough without taking damage)! For example the charging power could be adjusted at some phones by cookers!
GT10.1 WIFI only was released in US at least a month ago. In Europe it has been released in some countires. In my country, the expected release date is end of September.
About development and ROM's. It seems that most active development is for Transformer and Iconia. It seems that GT10.1 is not far behind and it seems to have the most potential. Xoom was the first HC tablet, it was released about 6 months ago and it still has only two custom ROM's.
The biggest problem is that there is no HC source code. Maybe ICS will change that...
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GT10.1 WIFI only was released in US at least a month ago. In Europe it has been released in some countires.
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Agreed - in the UK it was definitely more than a week ago.
I'm from China.And GT-p7510 was released at 27th,Aug
And my P7510 is on the way,SF-express
Dang okay I guess I was mistaken, it wasn't released as early as I thought which answers the question. Sweet, I'm sure the community will get larger soon especially with source code or ICS coming out. I guess all the tablets development are somewhat stagnant for that reason. Thanks for the responses.
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Dang okay I guess I was mistaken, it wasn't released as early as I thought which answers the question. Sweet, I'm sure the community will get larger soon especially with source code or ICS coming out. I guess all the tablets development are somewhat stagnant for that reason. Thanks for the responses.
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in fact it was released in june!!! but officially it was not available in some countries. i say officially because it's just like saying the samsung galaxy s2 wasnt available in the us until yesterday.
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/newsRead.do?news_seq=19862&page=1&gltype=localnews
even some countries in europe started receiving it in june itself.
deeren said:
in fact it was released in june!!! but officially it was not available in some countries. i say officially because it's just like saying the samsung galaxy s2 wasnt available in the us until yesterday.
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/newsRead.do?news_seq=19862&page=1&gltype=localnews
even some countries in europe started receiving it in june itself.
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only the 10.1V and the 10.1 wifi versions were available that early, the 3G versions rolled out last week!! and as far as i can tell the 3G version will be the most popular one...
Regarding the op question: I think the Tab is rather complete and doesn't need many customizations. Think that will explain the difference with the other device communities. More satisfaction means less active development.
I've had my Tab since the end of June when it became available in the US (after the New York release in early June).
Since June, some weeks the community has a bunch of releases, then goes quiet with a few dev's releasing updates. Overall, after the last build release, the Tablet it great with TW (others will argue different) but its stable and fast. Only few mods need like the UA Agent fix.
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The "real" launch of the overhauled tab in Europe was last week (and in some countries it's still not available, also due to a lawsuit with apple). In my country (Austria) the launch took place last week, although available quantities are still very low, the price still relatively high (~EUR600)!
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Holy moly... I paid around 450€ for the 3G 16GB version here in Bangkok...
I just hope the customs office in Germany won't rip me off when I get back later this month
Wubdidu said:
Holy moly... I paid around 450€ for the 3G 16GB version here in Bangkok...
I just hope the customs office in Germany won't rip me off when I get back later this month
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just make sure you dont keep the tab in its box, remove all the plastic seals from the accesories. In short, make sure that the tab and its box looks like for personal use and old. they would not tak you for that.

Galaxy Tab. Buy or wait?????

Hi folks!
So, my question is:
Do I buy a Galaxy Tab 10.1 or do I wait a bit more so I buy a next generation Galaxy Tab with quad core and stuff (are the releasing it soon?).
Galaxy Tab 10.1 will receive ICS?
What would you recommend?
I know there is another post about this problem. But the answers were from June. I want to know now in November. What do you guys think?
Thanks!
If samsung can assure you that when you buy a 10.1 you will not get one with the "newton rings" then buy it.
For me I would not recommend samsung......sorry folks.....
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Hi folks!
So, my question is:
Do I buy a Galaxy Tab 10.1 or do I wait a bit more so I buy a next generation Galaxy Tab with quad core and stuff (are the releasing it soon?).
Galaxy Tab 10.1 will receive ICS?
What would you recommend?
I know there is another post about this problem. But the answers were from June. I want to know now in November. What do you guys think?
Thanks!
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What you want to buy is totally up to you, but as for updates, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 *will* receive the Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade, which will bring a whole heap of new benefits.
And there will always be people like bongski who may have had bad experiences, but rest assured that of the three Samsungs I've bought, I've never had a problem with one.
Also, for future reference the Galaxy Tab 10.1 does have its own forum here on XDA.
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If samsung can assure you that when you buy a 10.1 you will not get one with the "newton rings" then buy it.
For me I would not recommend samsung......sorry folks.....
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I agree. As much trouble that I have had with Samsung support is just amazing. I had the battery problem and finally had to open up my tab and disconnect the battery to fix it Samsung knows about this problem and should have had a recall. This does not bid well for Samsung.
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Also, for future reference the Galaxy Tab 10.1 does have its own forum here on XDA.
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I agree. Read all you can from the xda 10.1 forum particularly the problems encountered,then make your own decision.....
Thanks, guys!
Sorry, I didn't find the 10.1 forum....
I think I'll buy it!
plenty of newer tablets coming out... just wait a bit... personally, i WAS holding my breath for the tab 7.7, but i passed out...
Some if not most 10.1 suffer lag and you will probably need to root and load custom roms. I have my brothers tab and have not rooted it yet and I can't stand the lag. Sometimes I feel like I'm back to single core. I think for the most part its Honeycomb combined with touchwiz. I'm gonna give it back to my brother and wait for the Transformer prime with quad core. I'm sure ICS will fix most of the lag but I don't know if I can rely on Samsung to get ICS anytime soon. I also don't like that it doesnt have an sd card slot.
For now Ill be using my Samsung 7 inch tab till the prime comes.
Buy now or wait for the new technology? Well, if you always wait for the technology you'll never buy anything!
I'd wait and see if Samsung get over their Ipad cloneing phase...
Not that the 10.1 is a POS ipad but the fact that you can't put in an sd card and have more memory is a little too apple for me... That was the most compelling thing about the GTab, it had expandable memory...
I don't see the point of getting a more higher powered beefy machine that uises apps that are 2-5 times more memory dependant on installation and having NO memory to use, not to mention songs, movies and ebooks... What was Samsung thinking?
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I agree. As much trouble that I have had with Samsung support is just amazing. I had the battery problem and finally had to open up my tab and disconnect the battery to fix it Samsung knows about this problem and should have had a recall. This does not bid well for Samsung.
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May i know what kind of battery problem that u had?
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Going from first Tab to 7.0 Plus... do you think it is worth it?

I have the first Samsung Galaxy Tab P1010 with 2.2 OS and was considering getting the new Tab 7.0 Plus just to have it for 3.2 OS. Should I make the leap just for the new OS or is it not really worth it? Screen seems to be the same and size doesn't matter to me. Just wanted a few thoughts and opinons.
I wouldn't do it until ICS has been released for it and has been available for a month or so. I've already been burned once by no updates from Samsung, I won't let myself get screwed by them again. If anyone else releases a 7" or 8" ICS Tablet with decent specs anytime soon, I would look at them first before I would consider another Samsung Tablet.
A lot of ICS Tablets with lesser cost will be released soon and I strongly advice against buying Galaxy Tab plus now.
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The original Galaxy Tab actually has a better screen than the plus (it is much brighter).
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The original Galaxy Tab actually has a better screen than the plus (it is much brighter).
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Really? I think it's the same screen.
At any rate, before you rush out and upgrade your Tab just for the sake of doing so, why not try rooting and flashing a 2.3 based ROM? The Overcome 4.0 kernel gives you a lot more battery life over stock 2.2, and then you can use that ROM or maybe others (I'm rocking the ICS-lookalike ROM).
You'll probably find that 2.3 will give your Tab a new lease on life. There are some good tablets on the market now, but there will be better ones if you can wait 6 months. Hell, the iPad 3 (*ducks*) might be compelling enough to jump over to iOS.
My tuppence would be to wait for the 7.7 ...it's imminent everywhere as I understand it. There are some people posted here with pics that already own it.
Id wait and see what the nexus tablet will be. Or wait for an official ICS tablet. Dont ever trust OEMs to give you updates and personally, Honeycomb isnt all that great or worth the upgrade. Do a CM7 with tablet tweaks and black out the buttons.
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Really? I think it's the same screen.
At any rate, before you rush out and upgrade your Tab just for the sake of doing so, why not try rooting and flashing a 2.3 based ROM? The Overcome 4.0 kernel gives you a lot more battery life over stock 2.2, and then you can use that ROM or maybe others (I'm rocking the ICS-lookalike ROM).
You'll probably find that 2.3 will give your Tab a new lease on life. There are some good tablets on the market now, but there will be better ones if you can wait 6 months. Hell, the iPad 3 (*ducks*) might be compelling enough to jump over to iOS.
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IPad 3 will be the hardware bump version. iOS still is nice but wont be much different for that tablet. The screen, Siri, RAM, etc and possibly a 7" version. That woild make me.buy one but not jumpship. Android is just to customizable to leave.
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Paten said:
I wouldn't do it until ICS has been released for it and has been available for a month or so. I've already been burned once by no updates from Samsung, I won't let myself get screwed by them again. If anyone else releases a 7" or 8" ICS Tablet with decent specs anytime soon, I would look at them first before I would consider another Samsung Tablet.
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Agreed - Samsung not making ICS available for the firstgen tab 7 and SGS is an insult considering how well the CM9 port for the SGS1 functions.
ICS 4.0.3 RC1 on original SGS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR7282CNv0w&feature=related
As an OG Galaxy Tab owner and the new owner of a Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, here's my two cents.
1. The screen resolution is the same, but the screen on the 7.0 plus is of better quality. The viewing angles are a bit better, the blacks are darker, and the brightness is better managed.
2. While I agree that cheaper 7in tablets are on their way, they are cheaper for a reason. The build quality, features, and attention to detail are always lacking on cheaper devices. Not only that, but even other premium device makers always struggle to match Samsung's build and screen quality in the tablet market. Samsung has also promised to provide an ICS update to the Galaxy Tab 10.1, 8.9, 7.0 Plus, and 7.7. Samsung promised a Gingerbread update to the OG Tab, and they did manage to deliver even though the carriers in the US dragged their feet on pushing the update. Since the 7.0 Plus, like the 10.1 and 8.9, is wifi, updates are quicker. My 10.1 has had 3 updates since I bought it on launch day six months ago in June.
3. The Galaxy Tab 7.7, at least in the US, is tied to Verizon. This means it is to a contract, which is a sad fate indeed. I'm willing to take a .7in smaller, non-AMOLED screen in order to be free of the carriers. If you're in Europe or the UK, then the 7.7 may be an option for you.
4. The 7.0 Plus brings much more to the table than just Honeycomb. The dual-core 1.2ghz processor and 1gb of ram make the device much faster and allow it to run apps, games, and videos much better, and with much more ease than the OG Galaxy Tab. If you loved the 7in form factor of the first tab, then the 7.0 will feel sublime, mixing the convenient 7in size with a much thinner body. It feels lighter in hand and is nicer to hold for long periods of time.
Essentially, there is a lot to love about the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, especially if you were a owner/fan of the original. There are other devices, but at least with the Galaxy Tab, you already know what kind of build quality to expect. While Samsung did upset people by not providing the OG tab with ICS, you are on XDA, and ICS is already in the works for the OG Tab. It will run, and run well, so you could just wait for that. On the other hand, it will never run as well as it will on the upgraded hardware of the 7.0 Plus.
In my opinion, the 7.0 Plus is a very good upgrade option if you're willing to spend the money. I did, and I haven't been disappointed, (and I am very picky when it comes to my devices, to the point of being anal.) As I said before, just my two cents. Good luck with your decision.
Awesome reply rkmj...btw where did you make your sig pic?
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Awesome reply rkmj...btw where did you make your sig pic?
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Thanks. I actually made it manually with GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program. It's the open-source alternative to photoshop.) I started it one day after cleaning out my "tech graveyard" I usually try to update it as I get new devices.
Personally I don't think, you get too much more from that step. I'll stay with my SGT P1000 for several months (and use newer firmware than that provided by Samsung)
Well, I'd like to hold off as long as possible before buying a tab. When I last looked Samsung had released any updates for the P1010. Also the only custom firmware I've seen are for everything but the wifi only model. All I really want is to get it up to 2.3 at least.
Did you have a look at the rom section in this forum? If you don't mind too much for touchwiz, I'd recommend the OVERCOME rom to you, which incorperates many fine features plus android 2.3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317384
Ice cream sandwich is on it's way for the tab, so I don't mind the plus ;-)
It looks like those won't work with the Wifi only tab P1010.
"Overcome ROMs/Kernels will NOT work with Latin American Tabs (the P1000L/N Galaxy Tabs)/CDMA-Based Tabs (If your Tab doesn’t have a SIM card, it won’t work…sorry!)/Wi-Fi Only Tabs (P1010 models!)"
if you were going from p1000 to plus, I wouldn't recommend it, seeing as I have good hope it will get ICS from our friendly devs. For the p1010 however, there is not much hope for ICS, so anything with HC or ICS is an upgrade.
I'd personally rather go all the way to the 7.7 though.
The 7.7 is hard to put down! I think the step from the old 7" to the new 7+ isn't that great, especially if you're flashing a ROM like Overcome. The bottom line is the screen and apps are mostly the same, save a few enhancements like the IR port and faster CPU. Although, the 7+ is a fairly good deal. If you flash a 2.3 ROM you may see a new lease on the 7" and then later the 7.7s (or other brand) will be widely available at a cheaper price in the US.
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if you were going from p1000 to plus, I wouldn't recommend it, seeing as I have good hope it will get ICS from our friendly devs. For the p1010 however, there is not much hope for ICS, so anything with HC or ICS is an upgrade.
I'd personally rather go all the way to the 7.7 though.
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I'm running ICS right now on my sprint tab and it works great. No its not as smooth as ICS on my other devices...but still impressive none the less. I'm really looking fwd to getting the plus and 7.7 because I do think those will be a big upgrade from the og tab.
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It looks like those won't work with the Wifi only tab P1010.
"Overcome ROMs/Kernels will NOT work with Latin American Tabs (the P1000L/N Galaxy Tabs)/CDMA-Based Tabs (If your Tab doesn’t have a SIM card, it won’t work…sorry!)/Wi-Fi Only Tabs (P1010 models!)"
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So I'm kind of confused on which tabs the Overcome will work on? someone Just wrote a few posts back that they were running it on there sprint tab? Isn't that CDMA? I have a VZW OG SCH-I800 Tab, will Overcome or any other Rom ever be able to port an ICS Rom to it?
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Galaxy Tab 2 (7") announced running ICS

GALAXY TAB 2 7"
Contains photo of what seems to be touchwiz UX for ics.
If you have nothing constructive to contribute, please do not comment.
Article: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...ab-2-android-4.0/&category=classic&postPage=1
Video, close up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAH-Ff7Uouw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This means (most likeley) that we will get ICS in march!
Yéé!
Heard this thing can do the GSM calls as well.
It reminds me of gingercomb :/
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Am I the only one that thinks this is strange? They introduced the "7 Plus" with upgraded h/w (1.2GHz Exynos) and HC and now they're introducing what's basically the original 7" with nothing new but ICS? If the specs are correct the 1GHz chip is probably the now ancient Teg2. The only h/w difference appears to be 1MB of RAM instead of 512K. So what's their strategy? Introduce ICS via newly named devices? Will there be a Tab 10.1 "2" that has ICS? What would that mean to the existing Tab 10.1 "1?" If they tie ICS to launching second versions of their existing devices, even if they intend to upgrade the originals, we'll be waiting an awfully long time. To me, this isn't good news until we know how it affects getting ICS on existing products.
That makes sense, I acknowledge your concern but we could always use the system dump from the new tab ,especially if it has the same hw, although it may need some scaling
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Here is the desktop link to the one posted in the original post. It has a link to the announcement of the tab 7.0 2
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/13/samsung-announces-galaxy-tab-2-android-4.0/
I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.
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I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.
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Most phones are also much thicker than the tablets are. It's a form-factor limitation. When it comes to camera, it is mostly all about the optics. It'll get there as the processors behind these cameras keep getting faster, better, smaller. But until then, you need to rely on the glass and space between them.
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I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.
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tell me how often you use your tab to take picture ?
Sorry, system is temporarily unavailable, please try again later. -_-
oh it's for the 7.0 tab
gee thanks
I think this is gonna be a budget price model to complete with Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet. But i don't think they can offer this at a price tag less than 300$
and now hopefully to see someone upload leak ics rom for the tab
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I think this is gonna be a budget price model
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Not so much...
Revealing what it says are the "official" prices across several countries in Europe, blogging site Samsung Hub found that the price in U.S. dollars for the Wi-Fi-only version ranged from $419 to $450, while the cost of the Wi-Fi+3G version varied from $523 to $568.
Here's an article that, like me, questions why it exists at all...
http://gizmodo.com/5884606/samsung-galaxy-tab-2-why-do-you-exist
So, basicaly, you'd get the same "hardware" than the Tab 10.1 but with a 7" screen...
looks interesting but I personally prefer tablets with a bigger screen than 7-inch
Too bad it's a 7 inch. Will samsung release a 10 inch version soon?
i cant wait for ICS on my 10.1. Honeycomb is a joke. I am running a KANG ics build but i cant wait for the real thing
I have been looking at videos of this tab, and scrolling through home screens in portrait packed full of widgets looks flawlessly smooth. I really hope we get that new touchwiz launcher.
Edit: I have the galaxy s2, and I have been running the an ICS leak of the last few weeks, Samsung has updated the touch-wiz launcher a lot for ICS, and it looks a lot like the launcher on this new tab. So if they will update the s2 to this new launcher style, hopefully they will do the same for our tab, as this new touchwiz launcher looks smooth and very nice. If it is as smooth on our tab as it is on this new 7inch, it will make all my tabby dreams come true
To the OP; I think this thread is a good idea, thank you. But just as constructive criticism , you really should have sated more about what you meant this thread to be about in your first post

7 mths old and still no 4.4.3/4.4.4

So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?
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So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?
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What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.
is any Samsung device running 4.4.3? To my understanding the Tab S and Galaxy S5 are still on 4.4.2. The cosmetic updates in 4.4.3 won't be noticed since Touchwiz covers them up anyway. I read Samsung implemented the 4.4.4 security patches in it's own separate firmware updates.
Well, the webview enhancements in 4.4.3 improve performance of any app which uses webview.
Also, pretty sure I saw quite a few mentions of various other Sammy devices getting 4.4.3 firmwares uploaded onto sammobile.com which was starting to irk me.
As long as I get android L I'm happy
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The biggest problem I have with it isn't the lack of an update, but the sluggishness of the OS. It's an octa-core processor with a 1.9gHz clock speed on four of them! Also the Wifi was better on my iPad 2 than on this brand new device!
Should've chosen something with a Quallcom processor, then I could have some decent custom ROMs...
A 4.4.4 update came out yesterday (9/10) for my T-Mobile Galaxy S4, so hopefully that mean it'll come out for the Tab Pro soon. The update does not update the UI. I'm not aware of a 4.4.4 update for other S4 and the S5. I believe T-Mobile pushed the update because it includes a new in-flight (airplane) text function/service they'll advertise next week.
Act of good faith
BarryH_GEG said:
What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.
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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.
There is NO Galaxy Tab with Android >4.4.2 - so why do you moan they don't care about Tab Pro users when there is no newer version on newer tablets (e.g. Tab S)?
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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.
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Once Samsung have your money they really don't give a damn about supporting your product.
My Galaxy W (i8150) was abandoned by them within 6 months of release and never received an update from GB to ICS even though similar age and spec models by them did.
The S3 has been dumped at JB 4.3 because they can't fit all their bloatware into the KK ROM.
The TabPRO seems to be EOL after less than a year.....
It's par for the course with Sammy unfortunately - which is why we are lucky to have such an amazing amount of support from Dev's on XDA.
locutusx said:
Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon...
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I don't expect to be able to hold the 4:3 Nexus 8" tablet in one hand, like I do with my Tab Pro 8.4.
I also imagine it won't have an SD Card.
But the regular OS updates to seem tempting.
My hand gets tired very quickly when I try to hold the Tab Pro 8.4 in one hand, so I don't see the Nexus 8 being any different in that regard.
I'm only using 900MB of the 64GB SD Card in my Tab Pro -- 62GB free.
Reason is, there are barely any apps I can move to SD card, and even then there are side-effects like the icon won't stay on my home screen so I end up just moving them back to main memory. Also I have Google All-Access Music so I don't need to keep lots of music on my tablet. And for videos/movies, I use Netflix and PLEX so no need to keep videos locally on the tablet. So obviously, i'd be ok with a Nexus tablet without SD card slot. ( But I would still try to go for a 32GB+ )
Also, i have some minor build quality issues with my Tab Pro 8.4 -- in particular there seems to be some very minor "squeaky/creaky" noises when I touch certain areas of the touch screen or around the bezel. Not a serious issue, mind you, but in contrast both my Nexus S and Nexus 4 have zero build quality issues.
Hey, I saw on twitter today that the "T-Mobile" version of the Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) is getting a 4.4.4 update soon!
Good news, right? Becuase it means the GTP version of that firmware update may be coming up soon afterwards. At least for the GTP 10.1" version.
Not sure about the GTP 8.4, it's pretty different from the Note 10.1 ...
I use link2sd app in the playstore great app, been using for a few years now. Native app2sd is not that great
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Just use a custom ROM and you will have a newer version. I have already lost faith in Samsung for their software.
I have a new slogan for Samsung, "It is, what it is". You could follow that with "take it or leave it" I bought my gt p 8.4 with no expectation of any updates. If I get one I will be thrilled.
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I have been rockin with:
Full/Debloated - Rooted - DeOdex - T320XAR1ANG1 - (08/03/14) on my T320.
This thing runs almost as good as my Note 3 running Alliance.
I tried the Daydream ROM and it was VERY lite on system storage but it had issues with some of my gaming.
It's nice to re live the good old Game Boy Advance and N64 days on this huge high res screen...
The lack of a OTG USB controller puts my Moga Pro Power to great use.
I use my Note 3 to email the boss to let him know that I cant get to work until the ice melts.
GAME ON ANYWHERE
Is the latest always the greatest?
Not always!
Do you remember SD card disaster with 4.4.x?
Samsung has a great upgrade program. Every time a new version of Android is released, they release a new tablet running it.
But seriously, I'm not too concerned about 4.4.2 to 4.4.4. I would rather they develop a Lollipop release. Fine with me if they take a couple of months to get it right. I'll be needing it on the Tab Pro 8.4 and Note 10.1 (2014).

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