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just out of curiosity to see if there's others like me. I cant live without the HTC Keyboard and Dialer.
Count me in.
I did but now I use bangster with the HTC_ime keyboard
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My dream is CyanogenMod ROM with HTC Sense. I like HTC dialer, contacts and HTC Launcher. But now I'm trying Launcher Pro with Beautiful Widgets and Pure Grid Calendar and it's look also very good. Instead of HTC keyboard I'm using Swype now.
I also like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733682
But it doesn't work for me, for now.
I am currently developing a build at the minute. If anybody knows were I can download a sense rom I can disable sense and just have the features you request. Currently I only have the nexus one builds which I dont particulary like!
ATomCZ said:
My dream is CyanogenMod ROM with HTC Sense. I like HTC dialer, contacts and HTC Launcher. But now I'm trying Launcher Pro with Beautiful Widgets and Pure Grid Calendar and it's look also very good. Instead of HTC keyboard I'm using Swype now.
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Don't forget a feature ONLY CyanogenMod has so far... a real working Audio DPS with graphic equalizer. Something Android badly misses compared to WinMO.
me too!!
I would be! but im not lol
Sense on winmo is amazing, but I dont see the big fuss about it on android. I do like the keyboard though
lonelykatana said:
I would be! but im not lol
Sense on winmo is amazing, but I dont see the big fuss about it on android. I do like the keyboard though
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Get the htc_ime keyboard It's very similar but better
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There is a Froyo rom for the MyTouch Slide, but it doesn't have the Sense UI, and even though I always use LauncherPro as default and not the Sense Launcher, it feels weird not having Sense UI, so I switched to SlideMEROOT5.
Even though you can use other launcher instead of the Sense Launcher.
The Sense Dialer, Music Player, onscreen-Keyboard, and the Sense Task Bar!!! Are part of the best of the Sense UI !!!
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I had to go back to a Sense rom for the dialer. Cannot believe stock Froyo dialer doesn't search contacts as you dial. And the Sense mail app is better too, can actually move mail to folders. Other than that I use Launcher Pro and its widgets.
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I like Sense without the Sense Launcher too All the little stuff that HTC brings like the keyboard, fm radio, the camera app is better too. I like Launcher pro with all the shortcut dock.
Like others, I like the "other" features of sense but not the launcher. I especially like that the Facebook link actually works on the sense builds. I use Zeam launcher, because I love the Quick Launch bar and the swipe functions. I am currently using mccm's new sense version and getting ready to try Sergio's new entry.
I really want the Froyo to have Sense already!!!
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Hi!
One other feature, in addition to the keyboard and dialer that I cant live without is the link feature in sense contacts. I find that feature extremely useful, the way you can link Facbeook, Google, exchange and phone contacts is unique to sense. I could perfectly well live without the launcher and the sense widgets though.
I like launcherpro because of its scrollable dock. It is immensely useful. That is why I refuse to use HTC Sense. But I have recently learned that you can use launcherpro on top of htc sense. How much slower does it become when you do that. I assume that stock android with launcher pro is faster than htc sense with launcher pro, but what is the lag/speed difference? Is it at all noticeable?
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I like launcherpro because of its scrollable dock. It is immensely useful. That is why I refuse to use HTC Sense. But I have recently learned that you can use launcherpro on top of htc sense. How much slower does it become when you do that. I assume that stock android with launcher pro is faster than htc sense with launcher pro, but what is the lag/speed difference? Is it at all noticeable?
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I am currently using HyperDroidSense and HyperDroid with LaunherPro. As far as everything goes, I don't see much different when using LauncherPro on Sense build. Sense still goes as fast as regular Android; however, Sense widget will not work under LauncherPro.
10507 said:
I am currently using HyperDroidSense and HyperDroid with LaunherPro. As far as everything goes, I don't see much different when using LauncherPro on Sense build. Sense still goes as fast as regular Android; however, Sense widget will not work under LauncherPro.
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Same conclusions, that's why I don't like sense builds. sight ot, i tried today htcclay supermiui build, all is smooth as iphone, I'm in love
No lag caused by running Sense in the 'background' on Darkstone v3.1. The widgets don't work but LauncherPro has similar widgets which I actually prefer. I like the Sense builds because of better email and a much better dialler.
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I like launcherpro because of its scrollable dock. It is immensely useful. That is why I refuse to use HTC Sense. But I have recently learned that you can use launcherpro on top of htc sense. How much slower does it become when you do that. I assume that stock android with launcher pro is faster than htc sense with launcher pro, but what is the lag/speed difference? Is it at all noticeable?
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Nexus one unlocked bootloader, running RA1.8 recovery, already have the 1.9a downloaded to flash but I'm kinda stuck on what to do
I love and currently use K-o-R CM based ROM...
but I wanna get something sense UI based for the htc widgets.. bought beautiful widgets and don't like it as much. its buggy, and just kinda sucky in general - wish I could refund....
Thing is, I dont like sense ui cus i can't add rows/columns to home screen launcher..
Ideas?
Download Launcher Pro, and donate to unlock Pro features - which are Sense-like widgets.
Nothing to do with ROM.
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Download Launcher Pro, and donate to unlock Pro features - which are Sense-like widgets.
Nothing to do with ROM.
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I have launcher Pro Plus....the donate thing
other than friend stream, nothing from sense
Calendar, Messaging, Twitter, Facebook? Or they're not enough "Sense-like"?
In that case, just install a Sense ROM. You can't get both worlds. Sense is closed source, changes in Rosie launcher are way too hard.
Of course, if you don't like it, you could try to reverse engineer the Rosie code and have your way with it.
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Calendar, Messaging, Twitter, Facebook? Or they're not enough "Sense-like"?
In that case, just install a Sense ROM. You can't get both worlds. Sense is closed source, changes in Rosie launcher are way too hard.
Of course, if you don't like it, you could try to reverse engineer the Rosie code and have your way with it.
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lol reverse engineering is something I might do because I want it so bad. Unfortunately I just realized the downfall of my request... reverse engineering is usually not allowed.
Well, I guess I'll try to work the launcher pro widgets since i paid for them... i didn tcheck the calander widget from lpp
Sense for widgets? Seems like you want a weather widget. try beautiful widgets...no longer in the market but im sure an apk is around.
On another note, try evil's sense Roms.
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Sense for widgets? Seems like you want a weather widget. try beautiful widgets...no longer in the market but im sure an apk is around.
On another note, try evil's sense Roms.
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The flip clock isn't even the biggest one, I purchased Weather Widgets donate and it has an H7C skin that looks just the way I want - given it still looks like garbage - its close enough for the look. Functionality wise it isn't even close though.
I would keep on using eViL's Sense ROM but quite frankly its just inferior to the KOR pack I've been using. It so much slower, things crash a lot more for no apparent reason - not really stable, hotspots and camera have been broken for a long time now and he hasn't fixed it
Enomther supposedly had a SENSE ROM but I only found "TheOfficial" Nexus One and flashed it... yeah, NOT a sense ROM. Skinned similar to one, but its not a sense rom - has none of the stuff I've mentioned
Try this fancy widget. Its exactly like the HTC sense weather and clock. HTC made them take it off the market.
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The flip clock isn't even the biggest one, I purchased Weather Widgets donate and it has an H7C skin that looks just the way I want - given it still looks like garbage - its close enough for the look. Functionality wise it isn't even close though.
I would keep on using eViL's Sense ROM but quite frankly its just inferior to the KOR pack I've been using. It so much slower, things crash a lot more for no apparent reason - not really stable, hotspots and camera have been broken for a long time now and he hasn't fixed it
Enomther supposedly had a SENSE ROM but I only found "TheOfficial" Nexus One and flashed it... yeah, NOT a sense ROM. Skinned similar to one, but its not a sense rom - has none of the stuff I've mentioned
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I don't see how bad evil's sense rom is. If you are talking about his Desire HD port then maybe (I haven't tried it yet). But his normal Desire port is not even remotely close to slow and unstable.
In fact out of all the roms I have flashed for N1, I have yet to find a rom that is really slow and unstable.
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I don't see how bad evil's sense rom is. If you are talking about his Desire HD port then maybe (I haven't tried it yet). But his normal Desire port is not even remotely close to slow and unstable.
In fact out of all the roms I have flashed for N1, I have yet to find a rom that is really slow and unstable.
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Yeah I think it was his Desire HD port, it was labeled as (WIP)?? Assuming that might have something to do with it. If you read the thread tons of ppl whining bout the same problems
Did you try a specific ROM w/ sense that WAS good? Mind direct linking me to the thread so I can try it out?
I went back to KOR.. kinda sad that I don't have the awesome HTC widgets tho, the email one I really liked - Launcher Pro has no replacement for it. I use work email a lot with my job so something as simple as a very nice activesync app goes a long way for me. I get about 100 emails a day...
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Try this fancy widget. Its exactly like the HTC sense weather and clock. HTC made them take it off the market.
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I will give it a try, thank you
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Yeah I think it was his Desire HD port, it was labeled as (WIP)?? Assuming that might have something to do with it. If you read the thread tons of ppl whining bout the same problems
Did you try a specific ROM w/ sense that WAS good? Mind direct linking me to the thread so I can try it out?
I went back to KOR.. kinda sad that I don't have the awesome HTC widgets tho, the email one I really liked - Launcher Pro has no replacement for it. I use work email a lot with my job so something as simple as a very nice activesync app goes a long way for me. I get about 100 emails a day...
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Well...for Sense ROMs I would still suggest evil's...some people seem to have mounting issues during flashing so maybe a previous version
I agree LPP needs a email widget Too bad there's currently no plans on new widgets
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Well...for Sense ROMs I would still suggest evil's...some people seem to have mounting issues during flashing so maybe a previous version
I agree LPP needs a email widget Too bad there's currently no plans on new widgets
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I'll see if I can bug the dev a bit for an email app.. I might nandroid backup my current install and try out one of evil's sense roms again and see if it actually works this time around.. That will have to be later tho, I need to have full access to my phone in the coming week for work
I would recomend going over to the Nexus One Rom Bible thread. just look there for what kind of rom you need
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788058
I'm committed to using Launcher Plus Pro, it's the ideal home replacement for me - has a lot of sense-like widgets that I love, plus a ton of added features/customizable elements that Sense couldn't even dream of competing with. I'm rooted, but still running stock, haven't flashed a rom yet, just a couple of system tweaks.
Anyway, my question is - should I flash an AOSP rom to run Launcher Plus Pro over? Would my phone run much smoother and more efficiently if LPP wasn't running over Sense? I've deleted all widgets/apps from my Sense set-up, and set LPP as default, but does the fact that Sense is still there take anything away from my phone's potential? I know if nothing else, sense takes up more MB than AOSP, so maybe that alone is reason to switch?
Assuming I do flash an AOSP rom - any suggestions, considering I'll be running LPP over it? Would one be better suited than another?
Being that this phone has 768Mb of memory. running LP over sense shouldn't be an issue. How ever i'm clueless as to why you want to use LP, due to the pretty widgets then turn around and delete the same exact widgets from Sense.
LP looks so much like Sense that it's not even funny. The only thing that is different is the actual launcher button.
But to answer your question I'd run Cyanogen(mod).
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Being that this phone has 768Mb of memory. running LP over sense shouldn't be an issue. How ever i'm clueless as to why you want to use LP, due to the pretty widgets then turn around and delete the same exact widgets from Sense.
LP looks so much like Sense that it's not even funny. The only thing that is different is the actual launcher button.
But to answer your question I'd run Cyanogen(mod).
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Well, that's the thing that makes Sense - the widgets. LPP has similar widgets, so it can take on Sense in that respect. Yes, the widgets are similar, but IMO they actually work BETTER than their Sense equivalents. For instance, while Friendstream looks cool, it was painfully slow to use. The Friends widget on LPP is as fast as posting directly to facebook. Another example is the calendar widget, I love the way the LPP one functions, you get both grid and agenda in one sharp widget. So right there, LPP is better due to functionality. After the widgets, LPP has several other major benefits: transition effects if you're into that kind of thing, landscape mode, ability to resize widgets to your liking, and of course - the dock. The dock is really the main reason I decided to ditch Sense. I don't even use myfaves, so it was ridiculous to have a launcher that takes up so much screen space and offered very little functionality.
So in short - I replaced Sense with LPP because it has what makes Sense cool (the widgets) plus many other great features that are missing from Sense. No other replacement has the added functionality AND the widgets.
BTW, thanks for the tip on Cyanogen, that's probably what I'll wind up doing.
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Well, that's the thing that makes Sense - the widgets. LPP has similar widgets, so it can take on Sense in that respect. Yes, the widgets are similar, but IMO they actually work BETTER than their Sense equivalents. For instance, while Friendstream looks cool, it was painfully slow to use. The Friends widget on LPP is as fast as posting directly to facebook. Another example is the calendar widget, I love the way the LPP one functions, you get both grid and agenda in one sharp widget. So right there, LPP is better due to functionality. After the widgets, LPP has several other major benefits: transition effects if you're into that kind of thing, landscape mode, ability to resize widgets to your liking, and of course - the dock. The dock is really the main reason I decided to ditch Sense. I don't even use myfaves, so it was ridiculous to have a launcher that takes up so much screen space and offered very little functionality.
So in short - I replaced Sense with LPP because it has what makes Sense cool (the widgets) plus many other great features that are missing from Sense. No other replacement has the added functionality AND the widgets.
BTW, thanks for the tip on Cyanogen, that's probably what I'll wind up doing.
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CM7+LauncherProPlus is what i'm on. I used to be a big fan of ADW until I tried LPP. When you do this, you can completely remove ADWLauncher from /system/app and replace it with LPP. Just make sure you fix permissions before your reboot the phone. You want LPP to have rw-r-r permissions.
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CM7+LauncherProPlus is what i'm on. I used to be a big fan of ADW until I tried LPP. When you do this, you can completely remove ADWLauncher from /system/app and replace it with LPP. Just make sure you fix permissions before your reboot the phone. You want LPP to have rw-r-r permissions.
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Thanks for the tip! I think this is what I'll wind up doing - no sense having 2 launchers on the phone if one is never used. I'm just a little paranoid about screwing something up with the permissions and all that :-/
I was happy with the rooted stock rom and I also prefer Launcher Pro Plus over Sense. It has so many additional features and settings that Sense doesn't. I like the Facebook and Twitter widgets and the fact that rotation works on the home screen.
For 3 or 4 months, I used the stock rom, rooted, with a lot of the stock apps removed, and with LPP. But a few weeks ago I finally got around to trying out CM7. Today I'm running RoyalGinger. Yes, the aftermarket roms are slightly faster and it is nice being able to overclock. Plus, it's nice not having the Sense apks running in the background. Also, I like the call blacklist feature in Gingerbread. But the stock rom worked 99.9% of the time, whereas the aftermarket roms probably only work 99% of the time. I occasionally find bugs here and there.
The stock rom worked fine for me and there really wasn't anything that I couldn't do with it. I just wanted to try some aftermarket roms cause I like to screw around and hack stuff. But was there really a great deal of benefit from updating the rom? Not really. Would I do it all over again? Probably not.
But I'm relatively happy right now on RoyalGinger 1.6 and I'm too lazy right now to flash back to stock, so I'll probably leave it like this for a while. Take that for what it's worth.
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I was happy with the rooted stock rom and I also prefer Launcher Pro Plus over Sense. It has so many additional features and settings that Sense doesn't. I like the Facebook and Twitter widgets and the fact that rotation works on the home screen.
For 3 or 4 months, I used the stock rom, rooted, with a lot of the stock apps removed, and with LPP. But a few weeks ago I finally got around to trying out CM7. Today I'm running RoyalGinger. Yes, the aftermarket roms are slightly faster and it is nice being able to overclock. Plus, it's nice not having the Sense apks running in the background. Also, I like the call blacklist feature in Gingerbread. But the stock rom worked 99.9% of the time, whereas the aftermarket roms probably only work 99% of the time. I occasionally find bugs here and there.
The stock rom worked fine for me and there really wasn't anything that I couldn't do with it. I just wanted to try some aftermarket roms cause I like to screw around and hack stuff. But was there really a great deal of benefit from updating the rom? Not really. Would I do it all over again? Probably not.
But I'm relatively happy right now on RoyalGinger 1.6 and I'm too lazy right now to flash back to stock, so I'll probably leave it like this for a while. Take that for what it's worth.
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Thanks for sharing your experience, it's actually very helpful and relevant as that's pretty much my exact scenario! Yeah I'm on the fence about whether or not to flash a new rom, especially after hearing that it doesn't change the performance of the phone too much. And I'm actually overclocking on stock right now - that was one of the main things I rooted for, to be able to set overclock/underclock profiles. Unless I'm missing something, you don't have to flash a rom to overclock, just a kernel (I'm using faux's smartass).
hello guys, it's me again.
i am browsing the android development section ever since i changed to the revolution rom.
i see there are some roms that have htc sense and some that do not. i understand that the htc sense is the UI the phone come with. i think that i'm right thinking that it's the 7 pages + widgets. probably some other stuff too that, well, i'm too newbie to understand.
what i don't understand is if htc sense has the stocks/twitter/facebook etc and whether you can have htc sense without them (gee, i don't think this sentence made sense...)
ok, let me recap and explain. when htc sense is "present" do i always have to deal with unwanted apps like the stocks/twitter/facebook etc or there are sense roms that don't have these?
i really like the htc sense UI but i totally dislike facebook and the likes ( i don't use them at all )
are these things linked to htc sense? if i want to get rid of them, do i have to install a non sense rom on the phone?
i really hope what i wrote is understandable (used the word "sense" too much)
any help would be appreciated
Cheers !!!
You can uninstall the sense apps, should you wish but then your left with the sense framework still consuming precious CPU cycles. So imho if you aren't using all the sense crud i.e friendstream etc. why not lose sense altogether?
I know it consumes more power, sense that is. But if I install a senseless Rom, will I still have the 7 pages + the widgets? Or if widgets won't be installed, can I add them later on?
BTW, how can I uninstall all the sense apps since I can't see them in the app list? I read that you can do that from titanium backup..
Cheers !!!
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Sense is the "Front-end" to the phone, the "desktop program", in a way. The cool thing about Android is you can use other front ends (aka Launchers), there's a ton out there with a different look and feel: LauncherPro, ADW, Zeam Launcher, SPB Shell 3D, most of which are less bloated than Sense.
So, if you don't plan to use Sense, some developers offer a non-Sense version of their builds mostly so as to save space
If you do want Sense, though, I'm really not sure if their built-in widgets are removable, pretty sure it's all integrated.
But, if you want similar widgets without having Sense, there are tons of alternatives, look around the Market. Pure Messenger Widget is very powerful and customizable, for example, and LauncherPro Plus (paid version) has some good built-in widgets too!
Sense is HTC's UI, you can flash no-sense rom, such as CM7, MIUI etc.
Google apps is not permitted integrating in CM's rom, so after you flash it, there are not the apps like you said. but you can install them.
I think this link should clarify. The what u lose are basically all ur htc sense stuff.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/19985-cm7-v-sense-what-you-lose-vs-what-you-gain/
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