I like launcherpro because of its scrollable dock. It is immensely useful. That is why I refuse to use HTC Sense. But I have recently learned that you can use launcherpro on top of htc sense. How much slower does it become when you do that. I assume that stock android with launcher pro is faster than htc sense with launcher pro, but what is the lag/speed difference? Is it at all noticeable?
jas0nw0ng said:
I like launcherpro because of its scrollable dock. It is immensely useful. That is why I refuse to use HTC Sense. But I have recently learned that you can use launcherpro on top of htc sense. How much slower does it become when you do that. I assume that stock android with launcher pro is faster than htc sense with launcher pro, but what is the lag/speed difference? Is it at all noticeable?
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I am currently using HyperDroidSense and HyperDroid with LaunherPro. As far as everything goes, I don't see much different when using LauncherPro on Sense build. Sense still goes as fast as regular Android; however, Sense widget will not work under LauncherPro.
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I am currently using HyperDroidSense and HyperDroid with LaunherPro. As far as everything goes, I don't see much different when using LauncherPro on Sense build. Sense still goes as fast as regular Android; however, Sense widget will not work under LauncherPro.
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Same conclusions, that's why I don't like sense builds. sight ot, i tried today htcclay supermiui build, all is smooth as iphone, I'm in love
No lag caused by running Sense in the 'background' on Darkstone v3.1. The widgets don't work but LauncherPro has similar widgets which I actually prefer. I like the Sense builds because of better email and a much better dialler.
jas0nw0ng said:
I like launcherpro because of its scrollable dock. It is immensely useful. That is why I refuse to use HTC Sense. But I have recently learned that you can use launcherpro on top of htc sense. How much slower does it become when you do that. I assume that stock android with launcher pro is faster than htc sense with launcher pro, but what is the lag/speed difference? Is it at all noticeable?
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just out of curiosity to see if there's others like me. I cant live without the HTC Keyboard and Dialer.
Count me in.
I did but now I use bangster with the HTC_ime keyboard
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My dream is CyanogenMod ROM with HTC Sense. I like HTC dialer, contacts and HTC Launcher. But now I'm trying Launcher Pro with Beautiful Widgets and Pure Grid Calendar and it's look also very good. Instead of HTC keyboard I'm using Swype now.
I also like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733682
But it doesn't work for me, for now.
I am currently developing a build at the minute. If anybody knows were I can download a sense rom I can disable sense and just have the features you request. Currently I only have the nexus one builds which I dont particulary like!
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My dream is CyanogenMod ROM with HTC Sense. I like HTC dialer, contacts and HTC Launcher. But now I'm trying Launcher Pro with Beautiful Widgets and Pure Grid Calendar and it's look also very good. Instead of HTC keyboard I'm using Swype now.
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Don't forget a feature ONLY CyanogenMod has so far... a real working Audio DPS with graphic equalizer. Something Android badly misses compared to WinMO.
me too!!
I would be! but im not lol
Sense on winmo is amazing, but I dont see the big fuss about it on android. I do like the keyboard though
lonelykatana said:
I would be! but im not lol
Sense on winmo is amazing, but I dont see the big fuss about it on android. I do like the keyboard though
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Get the htc_ime keyboard It's very similar but better
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There is a Froyo rom for the MyTouch Slide, but it doesn't have the Sense UI, and even though I always use LauncherPro as default and not the Sense Launcher, it feels weird not having Sense UI, so I switched to SlideMEROOT5.
Even though you can use other launcher instead of the Sense Launcher.
The Sense Dialer, Music Player, onscreen-Keyboard, and the Sense Task Bar!!! Are part of the best of the Sense UI !!!
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I had to go back to a Sense rom for the dialer. Cannot believe stock Froyo dialer doesn't search contacts as you dial. And the Sense mail app is better too, can actually move mail to folders. Other than that I use Launcher Pro and its widgets.
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I like Sense without the Sense Launcher too All the little stuff that HTC brings like the keyboard, fm radio, the camera app is better too. I like Launcher pro with all the shortcut dock.
Like others, I like the "other" features of sense but not the launcher. I especially like that the Facebook link actually works on the sense builds. I use Zeam launcher, because I love the Quick Launch bar and the swipe functions. I am currently using mccm's new sense version and getting ready to try Sergio's new entry.
I really want the Froyo to have Sense already!!!
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Hi!
One other feature, in addition to the keyboard and dialer that I cant live without is the link feature in sense contacts. I find that feature extremely useful, the way you can link Facbeook, Google, exchange and phone contacts is unique to sense. I could perfectly well live without the launcher and the sense widgets though.
Okay so i want a sense rom with okay battery life working widgets and the clock!! lol that never works fast ring pickup and no major bugs like happy rom is there any like it and i tried zx 4.5
Just a suggestion,
Try super f/cm6, buy launcher pro (sense like widgets), and beautiful widgets with ginger clean clock skin.
If you like cm6 and the ginger clean clock skin, both risk free because you can refund beautiful widgets, you should buy launcherpro. It's a no brainer because the LP widgets are pretty much identical to sense and LP is so fast and good.
I recommend this because I love sense and before I had it I used this combo and was very satisfied.
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Just a suggestion,
Try super f/cm6, buy launcher pro (sense like widgets), and beautiful widgets with ginger clean clock skin.
If you like cm6 and the ginger clean clock skin, both risk free because you can refund beautiful widgets, you should buy launcherpro. It's a no brainer because the LP widgets are pretty much identical to sense and LP is so fast and good.
I recommend this because I love sense and before I had it I used this combo and was very satisfied.
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I recommend doing this as well. However, you could try Fancy Widget from the market instead of Beautiful Widgets. Fancy Widget doesn't look exactly like the Hero clock, but it is pretty close, and in my opinion, it's better looking and more customizable.
Hero ROMs have never really been great on this phone. ZX 4.5 is probably the best one out there, in my opinion.
Okay guys ill try the superf with beatiful widgets and launcher pro plus
I'm committed to using Launcher Plus Pro, it's the ideal home replacement for me - has a lot of sense-like widgets that I love, plus a ton of added features/customizable elements that Sense couldn't even dream of competing with. I'm rooted, but still running stock, haven't flashed a rom yet, just a couple of system tweaks.
Anyway, my question is - should I flash an AOSP rom to run Launcher Plus Pro over? Would my phone run much smoother and more efficiently if LPP wasn't running over Sense? I've deleted all widgets/apps from my Sense set-up, and set LPP as default, but does the fact that Sense is still there take anything away from my phone's potential? I know if nothing else, sense takes up more MB than AOSP, so maybe that alone is reason to switch?
Assuming I do flash an AOSP rom - any suggestions, considering I'll be running LPP over it? Would one be better suited than another?
Being that this phone has 768Mb of memory. running LP over sense shouldn't be an issue. How ever i'm clueless as to why you want to use LP, due to the pretty widgets then turn around and delete the same exact widgets from Sense.
LP looks so much like Sense that it's not even funny. The only thing that is different is the actual launcher button.
But to answer your question I'd run Cyanogen(mod).
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Being that this phone has 768Mb of memory. running LP over sense shouldn't be an issue. How ever i'm clueless as to why you want to use LP, due to the pretty widgets then turn around and delete the same exact widgets from Sense.
LP looks so much like Sense that it's not even funny. The only thing that is different is the actual launcher button.
But to answer your question I'd run Cyanogen(mod).
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Well, that's the thing that makes Sense - the widgets. LPP has similar widgets, so it can take on Sense in that respect. Yes, the widgets are similar, but IMO they actually work BETTER than their Sense equivalents. For instance, while Friendstream looks cool, it was painfully slow to use. The Friends widget on LPP is as fast as posting directly to facebook. Another example is the calendar widget, I love the way the LPP one functions, you get both grid and agenda in one sharp widget. So right there, LPP is better due to functionality. After the widgets, LPP has several other major benefits: transition effects if you're into that kind of thing, landscape mode, ability to resize widgets to your liking, and of course - the dock. The dock is really the main reason I decided to ditch Sense. I don't even use myfaves, so it was ridiculous to have a launcher that takes up so much screen space and offered very little functionality.
So in short - I replaced Sense with LPP because it has what makes Sense cool (the widgets) plus many other great features that are missing from Sense. No other replacement has the added functionality AND the widgets.
BTW, thanks for the tip on Cyanogen, that's probably what I'll wind up doing.
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Well, that's the thing that makes Sense - the widgets. LPP has similar widgets, so it can take on Sense in that respect. Yes, the widgets are similar, but IMO they actually work BETTER than their Sense equivalents. For instance, while Friendstream looks cool, it was painfully slow to use. The Friends widget on LPP is as fast as posting directly to facebook. Another example is the calendar widget, I love the way the LPP one functions, you get both grid and agenda in one sharp widget. So right there, LPP is better due to functionality. After the widgets, LPP has several other major benefits: transition effects if you're into that kind of thing, landscape mode, ability to resize widgets to your liking, and of course - the dock. The dock is really the main reason I decided to ditch Sense. I don't even use myfaves, so it was ridiculous to have a launcher that takes up so much screen space and offered very little functionality.
So in short - I replaced Sense with LPP because it has what makes Sense cool (the widgets) plus many other great features that are missing from Sense. No other replacement has the added functionality AND the widgets.
BTW, thanks for the tip on Cyanogen, that's probably what I'll wind up doing.
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CM7+LauncherProPlus is what i'm on. I used to be a big fan of ADW until I tried LPP. When you do this, you can completely remove ADWLauncher from /system/app and replace it with LPP. Just make sure you fix permissions before your reboot the phone. You want LPP to have rw-r-r permissions.
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CM7+LauncherProPlus is what i'm on. I used to be a big fan of ADW until I tried LPP. When you do this, you can completely remove ADWLauncher from /system/app and replace it with LPP. Just make sure you fix permissions before your reboot the phone. You want LPP to have rw-r-r permissions.
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Thanks for the tip! I think this is what I'll wind up doing - no sense having 2 launchers on the phone if one is never used. I'm just a little paranoid about screwing something up with the permissions and all that :-/
I was happy with the rooted stock rom and I also prefer Launcher Pro Plus over Sense. It has so many additional features and settings that Sense doesn't. I like the Facebook and Twitter widgets and the fact that rotation works on the home screen.
For 3 or 4 months, I used the stock rom, rooted, with a lot of the stock apps removed, and with LPP. But a few weeks ago I finally got around to trying out CM7. Today I'm running RoyalGinger. Yes, the aftermarket roms are slightly faster and it is nice being able to overclock. Plus, it's nice not having the Sense apks running in the background. Also, I like the call blacklist feature in Gingerbread. But the stock rom worked 99.9% of the time, whereas the aftermarket roms probably only work 99% of the time. I occasionally find bugs here and there.
The stock rom worked fine for me and there really wasn't anything that I couldn't do with it. I just wanted to try some aftermarket roms cause I like to screw around and hack stuff. But was there really a great deal of benefit from updating the rom? Not really. Would I do it all over again? Probably not.
But I'm relatively happy right now on RoyalGinger 1.6 and I'm too lazy right now to flash back to stock, so I'll probably leave it like this for a while. Take that for what it's worth.
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I was happy with the rooted stock rom and I also prefer Launcher Pro Plus over Sense. It has so many additional features and settings that Sense doesn't. I like the Facebook and Twitter widgets and the fact that rotation works on the home screen.
For 3 or 4 months, I used the stock rom, rooted, with a lot of the stock apps removed, and with LPP. But a few weeks ago I finally got around to trying out CM7. Today I'm running RoyalGinger. Yes, the aftermarket roms are slightly faster and it is nice being able to overclock. Plus, it's nice not having the Sense apks running in the background. Also, I like the call blacklist feature in Gingerbread. But the stock rom worked 99.9% of the time, whereas the aftermarket roms probably only work 99% of the time. I occasionally find bugs here and there.
The stock rom worked fine for me and there really wasn't anything that I couldn't do with it. I just wanted to try some aftermarket roms cause I like to screw around and hack stuff. But was there really a great deal of benefit from updating the rom? Not really. Would I do it all over again? Probably not.
But I'm relatively happy right now on RoyalGinger 1.6 and I'm too lazy right now to flash back to stock, so I'll probably leave it like this for a while. Take that for what it's worth.
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Thanks for sharing your experience, it's actually very helpful and relevant as that's pretty much my exact scenario! Yeah I'm on the fence about whether or not to flash a new rom, especially after hearing that it doesn't change the performance of the phone too much. And I'm actually overclocking on stock right now - that was one of the main things I rooted for, to be able to set overclock/underclock profiles. Unless I'm missing something, you don't have to flash a rom to overclock, just a kernel (I'm using faux's smartass).
Hey all, I've been looking around but haven't been able to find my cup of tea exactly. I've been looking for a sense based rom that allows me to use HTC apps and widgets, however I want a customizable dock and number of screens, like that off launcherpro. Is there any such thing that exists?
Any sense rom will let you run launcher pro.
Except you can't use htc widgets...
Nope, if you run a launcher you can't use HTC widgets. However, if you buy LauncherPro Plus you get a, bunch of widgets that are similar to HTC's widgets.
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Launcherpro plus has some sense like widgets, so it depends on which widgets you are looking for.
You can also look for ROMs/themes that change the rosie look and function.
Short answer though, is no, no ROM exists like that.
I am currently running the Virtuous Unity ROM on my phone, but use Go Launcher rather than Sense. Does Sense add any real benefits other than aesthetics?
I will admit that Virtuous Unity is quite a bit better than stock, and I do love it. I was just wondering if other ROMs (non-Sense) perform better (faster and smoother) and save more battery. I know this is a tall order to fill since Virtuous Unity is quite a beast.
If so, any recommendations on a decent ROM? Thanks.
Honestly...if you're not going to use the nice sense launcher, then no, it's not worth it. There are a few Senseless ROMs. Or you could cook one up yourself xD. For recommendations, I'd go with MIUI. It is unbelievably customizable. Thousands of themes to choose from. I'd recommend TDJ's MIUI or AndroidInsomnia's MIUI. Of course, you could always go with the standard CM7.
Sense advantages on AOSP/CM/MIUI:
Dialer.
Contacts + integrated Exchange contacts.
Better Exchange support.
Proper (and good) mail client.
Proper calendar.
Proper photo+video camera.
Much nicer Quick Settings menu in Notification Bar (MIUI is very close, CM isn't).
Better hotspot control (per-user access permissions).
Better lockscreen (this one is subjective).
Probably forgot a couple of points.
Its kinda funny how you are using a custom launcher on top of sense. Sense doesn't really provide any functionality besides its UI. I suggest you use royalginger, i used it for a while and liked it but i ended up needing my eyecandy
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Sense doesn't really provide any functionality besides its UI.
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"Its UI", as you can see from my post above yours, goes FAR beyond the launcher.
Jack_R1 provided a pretty comprehensive list of some of the non-aesthetic features of Sense ROMs. Personally, the main reason I would switch to Sense would be for the camera. The camera is better supported and the pictures that turn out are visibly better than CM7's.
Bottom line is, if you're fine with the Virtuous + goLauncher, then just stick with it. If you want to try something new, you can always backup, flash a new one, and stick with it or restore to what you had before.
I didn't quite realize all that Sense did besides look pretty. I guess I'll stick with Virtuous Unity for now (may switch later just because I can - lol). Thanks to everyone for your input.
I think I'm addicted to Go Launcher..I seem to end up using it with most Roms. It's very snappy using Go launcher over Black Ice...this is as good as my handset has been ever..thanks Team Inferno!
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Before I learned about rooting and MIUI, I used to exclusively use GoLauncher. Then I realized how much I could mix and match different themes I found from MIUI market and I haven't looked back since. It's fast, smooth, and crazy good on battery life.
Plus I prefer the dialer, boot screens, lock screens, etc. Customization is the best part of it.
The only bad thing about MIUI is its lack of an app drawer. It is pretty much a knockoff of iOS. But creating folders has a similar effect to an app drawer. Except I can put the good apps I frequently use in there.
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The only bad thing about MIUI is its lack of an app drawer. It is pretty much a knockoff of iOS. But creating folders has a similar effect to an app drawer. Except I can put the good apps I frequently use in there.
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Give AltDrawer a try. I used to use it on MIUI and it works great!
Im using the Virtuous Unity ROM as well with ADW ex Launcher. I kinda like it