Almost on 2 4g phone, with no 4g - EVO 4G General

They should atleast give us the option of not paying th$10 a month.
I thought 4g would have been out at least a year after the 4g phone came out.
Disappointing....

kthejoker20 said:
They should atleast give us the option of not paying th$10 a month.
I thought 4g would have been out at least a year after the 4g phone came out.
Disappointing....
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oh hi dead horse ...... i think your about to be beaten again

CheesyNutz said:
oh hi dead horse ...... i think your about to be beaten again
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HA ha ha,
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CheesyNutz said:
oh hi dead horse ...... i think your about to be beaten again
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Maybe so, but the op is right anyways. I have it in writing by 2 separate sprint techs that they would have it in my area by the end of 2010. Where is it, now halfway through 2011? No closer.

indagroove said:
Maybe so, but the op is right anyways. I have it in writing by 2 separate sprint techs that they would have it in my area by the end of 2010. Where is it, now halfway through 2011? No closer.
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i have a ant uncles cousin brother 4 times removed that works for sprint that told me that 4g was going to be in my area launch day .... i think he was was yanking my chain ...

Got a little story to tell you about Sprint and this bogus "4G service fee".
My son had a Moment. The phone was locked up in a safe on an Army base where he wasn't going to be able to use it but once a week during the 6 months of his basic training so I cancelled the insurance. Apparently, they don't give special considerations to our military servicemen & women. Halfway through his training he gets hurt and sent home on a medical discharge. Now he is home and of course the phone gets broken. Since we aren't eligible for yearly upgrades anymore I had to reactivate my old Hero for him. I finish the activation on the webpage and it tells me there will be an additional 10.00 monthly fee for reactivating this phone. I called Sprint to find out why.
They tell me that this 10.00 is for premium data and applies to ALL new smartphones activated after April 1st. I told them that this isn't a NEW smartphone (it's actually a downgrade for him) and that it isn't NEW service. It didn't matter. I told the woman on the phone that when I activated my Evo I was told that 10.00 was for 4G service and the Hero isn't capable of 4G service. She told me that I'd been lied to. Her actual words were "I don't know why they told you that". She said that the additional 10.00 wasn't ever for 4G service, it's to keep my plan for that phone unlimited.
I argued about it. I told her that everything that kept me on Sprint was now gone and told them that I would not be renewing any of my contracts. She wished me luck on my upcoming Verizon service.
So yeah. Quit *****in about that 4G fee. That isn't what they're calling it anymore and according to the girl on the phone that night, that was never what it was for.

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When I got my EVO a year ago I enjoyed 4G in Cleveland, Columbus and Pittsburgh. I go to these cities once a month. In the last few months the signals have been weaker and drop out every few minutes. I have taken to switching back to 3G just to get constant data service. Sad

Since the fee now applies to all smartphones, regardless of 4G or not, your argument doesn't hold up. It might have before (debatable), but not now.

All I know is that sprint's 4g is garbage lol, the 3G is great though
I'd I wasn't on a serop act I wouldn't even consider sprint at full rate,
The difference in data speed and the ability to actually use it while moving lol, between verizon, tmobile and spring is too stark

bkrodgers said:
Since the fee now applies to all smartphones, regardless of 4G or not, your argument doesn't hold up. It might have before (debatable), but not now.
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If you have a sero plan they do charge an additional $10 for 4G phones only, so in my case the argument does indeed hold up.

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Goodbye Sprint, Goodbye EVO

well after only about 6 months i have had it with Sprint.
I live in Cedar Rapids, Ia and the service here is to the point of almost not even having data.
by that i mean i have been consistantly getting 50-100kbps. day or not.
occassionaly between 6am and 9am i can get 700-1100kbps but this is not a daily routine.
I have been speaking to and met with the Regional Sprint Manager who was a very nice, polite and well spoken woman to work with.
She, unfortunately for sprint, has let loose on some key things such as her getting calls from their business customers that the network is toast and data is gone. and that for years its been known that Sprint in Cedar Rapids has been horrible. although the latter comment was not a blatant statement but more under the table & nonchalant.
we swapped phones and nothing changed, as she admitted probably would happen.
but i am working with her to get out of my contract with no fee's because i am not, and never have gotten actual 3G service. I was blatantly mislead and lied to on several occassions about the service in CR and even told by a store employee "oh yeah, we are going to get 4G by christmas". when the fact of the matter is because of my contacts in the wireless world, Iowa isnt even on the roadmap for 4G in any of the future plans my contacts have seen although they admit it is no doubt coming.
but even if they say i have to pay the early term. fees i dont care i am done with sprint and i will pay my fees in my own due time.
funny thing is.... the minute you leave cedar rapids, ia and start travelling down the highway your data speeds go thru the friggin roof..... but.. i dont live out on the highway in the middle of nowhere, i live in town, where service is not even service.. its 1xRTT at BEST.
I have int he past even been going 75mph down the highway, been tethered to my EVO with my iPad, and been streaming Netflix to my ipad thru my EVO... but the minute you hit Cedar Rapids,,, the network is history. and has been like that for a long time, i doubt sprint will ever fix it, it will take alot... a l o t of T1's to fix their oversold network.
yesterday i went to US Cellular and got hooked up with a Samsung Mesmerize.
Its no EVO but its a nice phone none the less. but the service, even though maxes out at about 1200kbps, is lightyears better than Sprint Service ever will be.
i thought about getting the HTC Desire but its too small. i dont like small screens, but its a Sense phone and as such is a nice phone and has the email and browser i like.
The mesmerize is not, and uses the stock android browser and email which i friggin hate. but... it is what it is.....
good bye sprint, good bye evo.....
look for a couple of evo's in the for sale section of XDA
So, for the first 30 days where you had time to test out the service, were you never home to test out the service? That is why they give you thirty days. If I had crappy service for the first week, I would be at the Sprint store returning the phone.
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So, for the first 30 days where you had time to test out the service, were you never home to test out the service? That is why they give you thirty days. If I had crappy service for the first week, I would be at the Sprint store returning the phone.
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oh believe me i would have but, i was assured repeatedly that this was not normal Sprint when i reported issues. it wasnt AS bad back in June/July even though it was still far far less than minimal 3G speeds. I was told repeatedly atleast twice a month that trouble tickets were made and the field guys were looking into the issues.
But, obviously they have done nothing, absolutely nothing because not only has it not been fixed it is now worse than it ever has been.
so 30 days what ever... when sprint tells customers its getting looked into and yet absolutely nothing happens, well, what do you expect.
i am going to get fed up and leave, but i wont leave and pay ANY fees, they lied to me to get me to sign up, they lied to me to stay, and i refuse to allow anyone or any company to do that to me.
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So, for the first 30 days where you had time to test out the service, were you never home to test out the service? That is why they give you thirty days. If I had crappy service for the first week, I would be at the Sprint store returning the phone.
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yeah thirty days would of been more than enough time to figure this out, after that I would understand why Sprint wouldnt let you out of your ETF, especially after sticking through it for 6 months. And some reps arent really lying as much as speaking out of ignorance, 4g is being rolled out every month in different cities, but not on any schedule that I know of. But like you said it was always bad service by you so you didnt just wake up one day and your had nothing to work with. Sprint isnt much to blame for not covering the whole nation with service, all providers have bad spots, Im sorry that you live in one of Sprints. I hope you US Cellular works out better for you.
So I guess we shouldn't go with Sprint if we live in uninhabited backwaters then?
umm bye ?
sounds like some attention whoring going on here
Verizon have service there? Reason is if they do then you can just use roam control to stay on verizons towers in cedar rapids.
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I switched to Sprint from ATT (Iphone) and so far love it.
No dropped calls, better signal and more crisp voice.
Rooted EVO is as much fun as JB Iphone.
I have a 6 bedroom house and signal dies whenever I go inside very far. I use the Airave and I get full bars now everywhere in the house.
You should of just used a Verizon PRL, it would of probably increased your data speeds aslong as verizon had good coverage there. Worse case scenerio would of been Sprint canceling your contract without a ETF for excesive roaming...
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Verizon have service there? Reason is if they do then you can just use roam control to stay on verizons towers in cedar rapids.
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RoamControl doesnt do anything for DATA roaming. You need to manually load a different PRL with ##775#
Just a recommendation, if your not getting good service I would talk to someone in retention. I did this due to my phone dropping calls constantly inside my house. Anyways when all was said and done, I got a FREE Airave plus service for the Airave for free they just wave it every month. Just something to consider trying before you pay that termination fee, companies are very unlikely to let you go free.
CheesyNutz said:
umm bye ?
sounds like some attention whoring going on here
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LOL.. *sorry* "attention whoring"? Is that what it's called?
I've been disappointed with Sprint and my Evo many times for a variety of different reasons and I don't think I even told my wife--even after she stopped me from slamming my Blackberry 8330 up against the wall. Life's not perfect, that's what makes it cool--creating solutions. Good luck with other carriers.
> Stay in **** hole, for crap service, ditch evo or...
> Move out of **** hole keep EVO, scratch lottery ticket, win millions of dollars.
> Use money and buy your own sprint towers in **** hole
> Profit???
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> Stay in **** hole, for crap service, ditch evo or...
> Move out of **** hole keep EVO, scratch lottery ticket, win millions of dollars.
> Use money and buy your own sprint towers in **** hole
> Profit???
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swap step 3 and 4 around, step 3 should always be profit
Personally i would suggest moving, just a thought, may make you happier with life in general...
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dabezt1 said:
You should of just used a Verizon PRL, it would of probably increased your data speeds aslong as verizon had good coverage there. Worse case scenerio would of been Sprint canceling your contract without a ETF for excesive roaming...
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Any idea how much roaming Sprint would consider, "excessive?" One of the phones on my account roams just about all of the time (He is stationed at an AFB in South Dakota, basically the middle of nowhere) and I'm curious if any one knows how much roaming would cause Sprint to end the contract...
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Any idea how much roaming Sprint would consider, "excessive?" One of the phones on my account roams just about all of the time (He is stationed at an AFB in South Dakota, basically the middle of nowhere) and I'm curious if any one knows how much roaming would cause Sprint to end the contract...
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There is a certain percentage I think but I was stationed at Vandenburg AFB in California and I roamed there for almost two years straight and received no warning. Still with Sprint today.
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YOU LIVE IN CEDAR RAPIDS!

Received the letter with the Premier changes

I didn't see anyone mention that they had received the dreaded letter documenting the changes to the Premier program on 4/1/11, so I took a picture of the one I just received.
I got mine today also, lucky for me I have been with Sprint for over 10 years so I have the gold status ... kinda a bummer for anybody that doesnt have 10 years or over the $$$ limit.
Yeah I got mine. Sort of sucks I loose the yearly upgrade now. I was with nextel since around 2002 but they don't seem to count that time. I switched to sprint shortly after they merged. Only at the 4 year mark now. Actually what year did they merge? It must have been before 2006?
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Same here. I've been with Nextel for years and they say they won't count it.
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Yeah I got mine. Sort of sucks I loose the yearly upgrade now. I was with nextel since around 2002 but they don't seem to count that time. I switched to sprint shortly after they merged. Only at the 4 year mark now. Actually what year did they merge? It must have been before 2006?
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Same here.. With Nextel from like 2000 till the switch.. How can you check how long you've been with them?
Wait..what is this about? I am guessing its about the 10$ extra fee. Can you get out of contract because of this, then?
Well, at least we have the Echo.
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So there is a benefit of having the unlimited everything plan as opposed to the everything data aside from landline calling. And to thing, I was going to switch plans.
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I called sprint to see what my contract start date once I heard about the new Premier requirements. I knew I've been a customer for over ten years but they had my start date as May 2002. I questions them about it since I knew I've been a customer since early 2000. I ended up finding out that they changes my contract date when I applied a corporate discount back in May of 2002. For some reason in order to receive the discount they had to put me on the same billing cycle as my corporation which messed everything. I had the issue escalated and they were able to research and find my original contract in 2000. Wow something actually when my way! Anyway they have made comments on my file that will allow me to receive the Gold status because of my 10 year tenure. Very happy about this.
I feel bad for the people that had previous accounts with Nextel and are not eligible for the Gold status. I mean 10 years with one celluar carrier is a really long time. Especially when you consider that mainstream cellular phone use wasn't the norm much more than 10 years ago.
I'll have to make sure to follow up in April when the new policy becomes effective. Hopefully they'll stand by their word and give me the Gold Status that they promised me.
Woot, my 10 yrs is April 14th, just talked to confirmed with CS that I'll be golden...
Sorry for the pun...
ifly4vamerica said:
I got mine today also, lucky for me I have been with Sprint for over 10 years so I have the gold status ... kinda a bummer for anybody that doesnt have 10 years or over the $$$ limit.
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Got the same letter, been a customer for over 10 years as well, and agreed on the bummer part.
So the primary doesn't get a yearly upgrade? I got nine years.
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Only 7 year customer for me :'(
I think all those affected should be writing the BBB and state's attorney's office. This is very indicative of a bait and switch. Please don't say this is a perk and is subject to changes. It's a perk that's used to sell the service/company, then the co does a switch in terms so the customer no longer qualifies. You were baited, and then terms were switched. I think with some pressure, sprint will honor this for one more annual upgrade.
gpz1100 said:
I think all those affected should be writing the BBB and state's attorney's office. This is very indicative of a bait and switch. Please don't say this is a perk and is subject to changes. It's a perk that's used to sell the service/company, then the co does a switch in terms so the customer no longer qualifies. You were baited, and then terms were switched. I think with some pressure, sprint will honor this for one more annual upgrade.
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one of the sprint reps here said if you call into retentions u get it back for this one time.
i wanna know where the gold at.
i got the gold letter. i signed up for sero a few years ago. i'm still using the touch pro (lulz), and i'm only paying $28/month after tax.
you must not need to have 10 years of consecutive service, because i was with verizon for quite a while before coming back with sero.
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Same here.. With Nextel from like 2000 till the switch.. How can you check how long you've been with them?
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I think I saw it when I logged into my account online. I am going to call and complain tonight. I will post my outcome.
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April fools? (EOM)
I'm hoping this is one bad joke.
got the letter today. after reading through these forums and ways to end my sprint contract, one of the two listed that a change in plan terms by the company is one condition that will allow waiving of termination fees. do you guys think this would be a "change in contract" with sprint, or considered a "perk" as said above?
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got the letter today. after reading through these forums and ways to end my sprint contract, one of the two listed that a change in plan terms by the company is one condition that will allow waiving of termination fees. do you guys think this would be a "change in contract" with sprint, or considered a "perk" as said above?
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Yeah, that's one way, the other way is to force roam, then wait a few months for them to cancel you, hopefully with ETFs.
I'd actually like to jump sprint at this point...their 3g is suckass lately. Lucky to get 200 down anymore in Idaho; 4G is barely 1 down, when you have signal (we have clear locally, and it gets 5 down)...Sprint is horrible. I wanna go back to att or tmo. ;(
We switched to sprint because they were cheapest/had discounts/yearly perks, but the discounts dropped to 2 lines and now the yearly upgrades are gone, so there's no point to stay with sprint anymore.
ESPECIALLY since ATT just introduced ANY MOBILE UNLIMITED today!

is this grounds for no eft fee's?

so in grand rapids michigan we have 3 towers down right now. been down for 4 weeks with no eta. everyone i know is having huge network & radio issues. it was soo bad sprint sent me a free airave and payed my next months bill. BUT aside from my home with the airave i get horrid service now anywhere else in my area.
i was at t-mobile the other night and a ton of people are leaving sprint because of this. t-mobile told me they fix their towers in 48hrs, not 4+ weeks. so my question is, is this grounds for me getting out of sprint for free? i mean im paying for a service that is not working, if anything this is sprint's fault for not fixing the issues. i used to have a perfect signal. i feel like im being sorta ripped off right now in a way.
bottom line is i need my phone for work and i cannot stand all calls going to voicemail, 45 seconds to connect to call someone. not being able to send texts...etc. as i said this affects me, my wife's line and all of my co-workers.
getting VERY annoying!
It sounds like an issue Sprint is aware of, and if they cannot provide you the service you are paying for, they should let you go without assessing the ETF. Just be nice and you will get further than if you call hollering at them.
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It sounds like an issue Sprint is aware of, and if they cannot provide you the service you are paying for, they should let you go without assessing the ETF. Just be nice and you will get further than if you call hollering at them.
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ive called several times and they are aware but can give no explanation as to why it's taking soo long or a eta fix. i agree that the eft should be waived right now. i may call later this week.
What's the zip code?
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Grand Rapids is down due to adding capacity to the tower. ETA is mid March.
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Grand Rapids is down due to adding capacity to the tower. ETA is mid March.
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see advanced tech told me 2-3 towers down and it's been like this for 4 weeks now. again you work for sprint, if i need my cell service can i get out with no eft?
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see advanced tech told me 2-3 towers down and it's been like this for 4 weeks now. again you work for sprint, if i need my cell service can i get out with no eft?
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It can be waived due to towers being down but will require approval.
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I was in the same position except with tmobile a few months ago. You have to continue calling them everyday and keep complaining. It may take a week or two, but if you call everyday at least once or twice a day and complain they should let you out.
However, I don't think this is an automatic given for an etf b.c i think somewhere in the contract it talks about towers going down etc.
But keep calling and sooner or later they will let you out.
I"m no lawyer, and I imagine it would get resolved before it got to this. But if they actually tried to charge you an ETF for a service that isn't working, and you decided to fight it in court (small claims), I think you'd have a pretty good shot. No matter what the contract says, forcing you to pay for a service that they aren't providing probably wouldn't stand up.
As others have said though, I imagine if you're persistent, they'll let you out.
be careful what you wish for..
I heard Grand Rapids is a test site for some new technology exclusive to Sprint; 25mb+ down.
nebenezer said:
be careful what you wish for..
I heard Grand Rapids is a test site for some new technology exclusive to Sprint; 25mb+ down.
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i figured that's why it's taking soo damn long to fix. i was going to leave sprint but with the evo3d & nexus s coming i may hang around. plus the fact i do not like t-mobiles policy on creating a contract. if you do not have prefect credit you are on a month to month basis with them.
looks like sprint bumped my lines upgrade eligibility as well. i can use it as of 11/1/10. so ill sit on this until one of the new phones comes out.

[Q] Leaving Sprint

Hello,
For starters, my apologies if this has been asked before. I took a quick look at the "similar threads" but none seemed to hit this angle.
I signed a two-year contract with Sprint last June. I bought the EVO 4G (thus my post on this particular forum) and paid $299 for it (forgot to mail in the rebate - my fault.) I live in Tulsa, OK, and we weren't on the list of cities with 4G at the time, but Sprint was rapidly expanding its "the nation's first 4G network" and I wanted to be a part of that. Plus I'd come from AT&T and an iPhone 3G, and I'd had enough of Apple.
Anyway, searches on Sprint's site regarding WiMax coming to Tulsa always resulted in a "give us your e-mail address and we'll let you know!" page. So I gave them my e-mail address, lived with Sprint's just-ok 3G speeds combined with spotty reception, and I waited. Don't-bother-trying-to-stream-music-in-the-car-or-use-data-at-some-intersections spotty. Often couldn't send a text message from my one-level, ground floor office full of windows in the middle of town, spotty. It'd be worth it when they flipped on that WiMax switch.
Well, fast forward 15 months, and I've put in my e-mail address about a dozen times. Verizon's LTE network has been live here for months. AT&T's faux-G HSPA+ is available here. Hell, T-Mobile's is even live here according to their website, though I don't know anyone on T-Mobile. Still, I've waited.
Recently I read that Sprint's future direction is LTE-Advanced. That sounds lovely, but I've read that WiMax will "continue to be supported for several more years due to the contract with Clearwire." Sprint would be stupid to dump more money into the WiMax network, but where does that leave me? The customer who paid an ETF to jump on the "first 4G network" and buy the "iPhone killer running Android?" I don't have WiMax now and it's clear that I never will. My phone doesn't have an LTE radio so that does me no good. I bought a ticket to ride a train that never left the station.
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For the record, I never voiced my reception complaints with Sprint. Always thought it'd get better. Lesson learned.
Anyway, the point of all this - in light of Sprint's announcement that they're moving forward with LTE-Advanced (and, one assumes, not dumping money into also building out WiMax) - do you think I'd have grounds to demand the ETF be waived? I almost feel like I've been subject to a bait-and-switch, except they just kept the bait and never gave me anything else.
Many people don't realize that the salespeople layered on a whole bunch of "4G will be here in a couple of months..." stories when peddling the EVO 4G around launch time....Especially with the $10 4G tax that came with it....(now a moot point since the 4G tax got relabeled a $10 "smartphone" tax).
I was told that Omaha was "next on the list", "eminent", "in the pre-roll out" phase, etc. etc. etc. It never happened.
I have been with Sprint for over 10 years....And in the space of the last year and a half, I have seen them go South BIG TIME....In more ways than I would like to elaborate here.
And "unlimited" is their last perk....Well guess what, unlimited 10-25kbps (downtown Omaha) is nothing to write home about folks.
sog1971 said:
Many people don't realize that the salespeople layered on a whole bunch of "4G will be here in a couple of months..." stories when peddling the EVO 4G around launch time....Especially with the $10 4G tax that came with it....(now a moot point since the 4G tax got relabeled a $10 "smartphone" tax).
I was told that Omaha was "next on the list", "eminent", "in the pre-roll out" phase, etc. etc. etc. It never happened.
I have been with Sprint for over 10 years....And in the space of the last year and a half, I have seen them go South BIG TIME....In more ways than I would like to elaborate here.
And "unlimited" is their last perk....Well guess what, unlimited 10-25kbps (downtown Omaha) is nothing to write home about folks.
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MLPosey27 said:
Hello,
Anyway, the point of all this - in light of Sprint's announcement that they're moving forward with LTE-Advanced (and, one assumes, not dumping money into also building out WiMax) - do you think I'd have grounds to demand the ETF be waived? I almost feel like I've been subject to a bait-and-switch, except they just kept the bait and never gave me anything else.
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In short you wont be able to pull this. 4G is considered a feature... as long as you have regular service Sprint is doing its part on the contract... now if the calls drop like crazy and you dont get any signal you might have a way out..
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i like your theory. However Sprint will say in fact you do have access to 4g wimax if you go to any city that has wimax like denver, colorado. They may also point out that you knew when you bought the phone that you did not have 4g and that unless their was in writing in your contract that 4g wimax service would be available by a certain date then you may not have a leg to stand on. You can try to start a class action suit and see what happens....
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CAS are completely and utterly useless. The only ones who benefit from these are the lawyers who get paid in the thousands or even millions while the ppl they represent not only get a rate hike (hey someone has to foot the bill for the amount the company paid to the lawyers or did you think the stockholders would be happy to know their money was used to pay off the suit?) but they get a measly coupon for like 10% off any accessory or a $2 credit and no noticeable change to the terms they were trying to fight against.
If you really want to make a difference all you need is to get out of Sprint either by paying the ETF or waiting patiently for another 'considerable' change to the contract's terms as they seem to pop every 6 months or so and spread the word...
I know. I, along with thousands, if not millions are in this sanger boat as you. Got mine Nov 2010. Was promised 4g by march, nothing. Then it was july, nothing. Then end of summer, nothing. I had about written it off then I heard about the lte network. So I won't have 4g for maybe another year. Eh, whatever. We can ***** all we want, its not going to make things happen any faster. Would be great if 3g was as fast as it used to be to make the wait easier. Its either wait it out or go pay out the ass for verizon or att, neither of which are worth the price IMO, especially att. Guess I'll just wait like everyone else.
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You may want to try this. You can use it to get better signal if you are in an area with ishtty sprint coverage OR use it to get kicked outta your contract if that's what you're looking for
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You can try to start a class action suit and see what happens....
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No, actually you can't. Read Sprint's terms and conditions. Specifically, the section regarding dispute resolution.
http://shop2.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml
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I thought I remembered reading an email from Sprint that basically let you out of your contract with ETF's since they changed the terms of the contract. Might just call and ask.
snowboarda42 said:
I thought I remembered reading an email from Sprint that basically let you out of your contract with ETF's since they changed the terms of the contract. Might just call and ask.
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Yes, if they change the terms of your contract you get the opportunity to get out with no ETF. I don't think they have changed any contract terms recently though.
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MLPosey27 said:
Hello,
For starters, my apologies if this has been asked before. I took a quick look at the "similar threads" but none seemed to hit this angle.
I signed a two-year contract with Sprint last June. I bought the EVO 4G (thus my post on this particular forum) and paid $299 for it (forgot to mail in the rebate - my fault.) I live in Tulsa, OK, and we weren't on the list of cities with 4G at the time, but Sprint was rapidly expanding its "the nation's first 4G network" and I wanted to be a part of that. Plus I'd come from AT&T and an iPhone 3G, and I'd had enough of Apple.
Anyway, searches on Sprint's site regarding WiMax coming to Tulsa always resulted in a "give us your e-mail address and we'll let you know!" page. So I gave them my e-mail address, lived with Sprint's just-ok 3G speeds combined with spotty reception, and I waited. Don't-bother-trying-to-stream-music-in-the-car-or-use-data-at-some-intersections spotty. Often couldn't send a text message from my one-level, ground floor office full of windows in the middle of town, spotty. It'd be worth it when they flipped on that WiMax switch.
Well, fast forward 15 months, and I've put in my e-mail address about a dozen times. Verizon's LTE network has been live here for months. AT&T's faux-G HSPA+ is available here. Hell, T-Mobile's is even live here according to their website, though I don't know anyone on T-Mobile. Still, I've waited.
Recently I read that Sprint's future direction is LTE-Advanced. That sounds lovely, but I've read that WiMax will "continue to be supported for several more years due to the contract with Clearwire." Sprint would be stupid to dump more money into the WiMax network, but where does that leave me? The customer who paid an ETF to jump on the "first 4G network" and buy the "iPhone killer running Android?" I don't have WiMax now and it's clear that I never will. My phone doesn't have an LTE radio so that does me no good. I bought a ticket to ride a train that never left the station.
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For the record, I never voiced my reception complaints with Sprint. Always thought it'd get better. Lesson learned.
Anyway, the point of all this - in light of Sprint's announcement that they're moving forward with LTE-Advanced (and, one assumes, not dumping money into also building out WiMax) - do you think I'd have grounds to demand the ETF be waived? I almost feel like I've been subject to a bait-and-switch, except they just kept the bait and never gave me anything else.
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Well if you want to opt out of the contract you should try the PRL mod it lets you roam on verizons towers and sprint wont like that and will cancel ur contract if you dont mind.
Or just wait for LightSquared LTE its gonna be the best of all .
Heres some videos to keep your hopes up. which should be up by mid 2012.
http://youtu.be/NbZVmsm09R4
http://youtu.be/gdbGpul7QAA
sog1971 said:
And "unlimited" is their last perk....Well guess what, unlimited 10-25kbps (downtown Omaha) is nothing to write home about folks.
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I just talked to Sprint about lousy 3g speeds here in Kansas City Missouri. My contract is done in February, and so am I. Verizon here I come.
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I am pretty disgusted with Sprint as well. I live in Omaha, NE. I have a 4G signal about 2 miles from my apartment but they won't flip the switch to allow the whole city to have it. Verizon has had 4G LTE in Lincoln and Omaha since September. This is beyond unacceptable, its retarded. It amazes me that they want to alienate their small customer base in the Midwest, especially since they are based out of Overland Park, KS. Since they decided to spend money on Apple and the iPhone instead of carry through with their promise of WiMax in 2011, I hope they are bought out by Verizon or that they go bankrupt. I have terrible data speeds and I am flat out sick of Sprint's lying.
You might have to pay more for att or Verizon but I rather pay for better service then deal with sprints lousy service I'm done. I would pay only $10.00 more with att so not breaking the bank.
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Go to t-mobile I live in a small city and look at my speeds on there HSPA +
BTW im on there $30 plans go on their wesite and check it out
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Will it take 2 more years for Sprint to bring their new LTE to most of the country?
Just wanted to let you guys know I called sprint and got the $10 data charge waived for one month due to slow data speeds. I had them look at my data usage over the last couple months and told them the drop was due to slow speeds.
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MLPosey27 said:
[...] they just kept the bait and never gave me anything else.
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^ this
This has me so mad @ Sprint. When my contract is up this spring, I'm not sure if I'll be staying with Sprint.
MLPosey27 said:
Anyway, the point of all this - in light of Sprint's announcement that they're moving forward with LTE-Advanced (and, one assumes, not dumping money into also building out WiMax) - do you think I'd have grounds to demand the ETF be waived? I almost feel like I've been subject to a bait-and-switch, except they just kept the bait and never gave me anything else.
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Nope, I'm in your precise situation and it's why I'm doing everything I can to rape their network until I'm dropped. Check out that "hack the htc evo" thread. They did not represent themselves honestly.
I'm about 3 hours north of Sprint's 4G here in Ohio. I signed on because they said that in about 6 months (from the time I signed) my area should be up and running. I should have paid attention to the "should be" part.
SharkUW said:
Nope, I'm in your precise situation and it's why I'm doing everything I can to rape their network until I'm dropped. Check out that "hack the htc evo" thread. They did not represent themselves honestly.
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If you aren't happy with Sprint's service, why don't you just switch carriers? All you are doing is driving up costs for the rest of us.
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Got out of my Sprint contract ETF free!!!

Hey guys,
This isn't a thread to give instructions on how to screw Sprint over, nor is it how to get out of yours. I'm just telling you that they let me out.
I cited the fact that my service is miserable, with really low speeds, along with the fact that their new agreement with Lightsquared means that my EVO will never be able to get their 4g service, which I was promised when I signed up. They agreed with my position, and said that if I returned my phones when I left, they would waive the ETF, which I think was very fair of them. Like I said, I wasn't out to screw them over or get over on them, which is why I'm returning the phones to them. They gave me a full month to find new service as well.
Just wanted to tell everyone this so that if you're having a similar situation with service and want to switch (and aren't greedy!!!), Sprint will work with you. That being said, I'll miss this forum when I switch, and all the great Devs. I'm switching back to Verizon, and getting myself the new HTC Rezound, which I hear is phenomenal, along with beautiful Verizon 4G!!!!
I got out of my ETF in June, citing the same reason, slow 3g speeds. I do not have to turn in my phones to sprint, that seems a little shady to me. YOU bought the phones, YOU own the phones. You should NOT have to give them back, you have no reason to, they are YOURS.
Good idea, I'm getting near that move myself. It is rather silly I own a 4G phone that has never and will never see the use of 4G, considering it was sold as such.
Wonder if I can use that to force an upgrade in January. Dropping Premium really sucks, because now I'm stuck with a phone that will never see 4G or be able to get LTE, probably, until Jan 2013.
sitlet said:
I got out of my ETF in June, citing the same reason, slow 3g speeds. I do not have to turn in my phones to sprint, that seems a little shady to me. YOU bought the phones, YOU own the phones. You should NOT have to give them back, you have no reason to, they are YOURS.
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Honestly, I would have liked to keep the phones and sell them, but I don't think it's unreasonable for them to ask for them back in exchange for waiving the fee. That's what the ETF is there to prevent. Otherwise, they would have given me a $500 phone for $99 bucks, and I could just cancel my service and sell it. I think it's a fair offer for letting me out of my contract after only 4 months, and that's why I took it. I was surprised they let me out at all.
Amazon Wireless has all phones for a penny today for new activations, so I grabbed two Rezounds for 2 cents, and activated my new Verizon account!!!!
Going to need a new handle.
I have my Evo and with an AOSP Rom, my 3G is pretty solid, and I am in Bethpage.
Where on LI are you that your 3G is slow?
I live in North Bellmore, and got no reception in my house until they sent me an Airave, and I go to SUNY Old Westbury, where there is literally no reception whatsoever. I have to force roam on Verizon's towers, and that only gives me 1x unless I do the PRL hack. I shouldn't have to pay Sprint to roam on Verizon's towers on 3g, when I can get a better phone, and get Verizon 4g for just a bit more.
Yeah, once you go north of the LIE or NSP, the service blows. I am shocked that the service is bad in NB. My father lives in Wantagh right off of Jerusalem and I still get solid speeds. Just as good as his Droid X2.
Good luck with the Rezound. It's a sweet phone and VZW service is great, just really expensive compared to Sprint. See if SUNY Students get some kinda discount from Big Red. More often than not, there is some sort of price break offered.
I had Verizon before I switched to Sprint in June...Their service is great. I get a 19% discount through my job, and they said they'll put that back on for me once I activate the phones. Nice to get $30 off a month, makes it a bit more reasonable, plus all of Nassau County is 4g enabled. Suffolk County is still only 3g though, which is a bit of a bummer, but w/e....I'm not there that much.
I'm going to give them a call tomorrow and see if I can work something out with them. With full bars of 3G it takes, literally, 1.5-2m for my Facebook home page to load. It's beyond abysmal. Add to that the fact that 4G is listed on their map as everywhere in my town (and yet I've been able to get one bar of it one time anywhere around here) it is useless.
I have no problem handing my phone over, I just want out (especially since Rezounds are $.01 right now ). We'll see, I s'pose.
Evo4gLI said:
I had Verizon before I switched to Sprint in June...Their service is great. I get a 19% discount through my job, and they said they'll put that back on for me once I activate the phones. Nice to get $30 off a month, makes it a bit more reasonable, plus all of Nassau County is 4g enabled. Suffolk County is still only 3g though, which is a bit of a bummer, but w/e....I'm not there that much.
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When i was talking to one of the business sales reps last year, he mentioned that LI east of Rte 110 should be LTE enabled by Q1 2012. Not sure how accurate that info is, but that would be great to have it so quickly.
Evo4gLI said:
I had Verizon before I switched to Sprint in June...Their service is great. I get a 19% discount through my job, and they said they'll put that back on for me once I activate the phones. Nice to get $30 off a month, makes it a bit more reasonable, plus all of Nassau County is 4g enabled. Suffolk County is still only 3g though, which is a bit of a bummer, but w/e....I'm not there that much.
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I haven't had any problem either. I get a pretty fair discount so I can't complain.
Just got off the phone with a retention supervisor and they could not wave the ETF due to data speeds because there was not any guarantee of speed in the contract. I have 15 months left on my contract and I've been with them for 4 years. I am switching to Verizon because it is a lot better in my area. They did offer me a one-time $25 credit but i refused it out of principle. They should let people who want to leave go when they KNOW they cannot compete with verizon. Slowly Verizon will slow down from overuse and the system will balance. Contracts are evil /rant
Just got off the phone with a retention supervisor and they could not wave the ETF due to data speeds because there was not any guarantee of speed in the contract.
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Yes there is, the contract guarantees 3g speeds between 600kbps and 1300kbps when you are within sprint's coverage area. Call back and speak to another retentions rep, or email [email protected] with your situation, and you will get a callback from a rep from his office within 48 hours.
sitlet said:
Yes there is, the contract guarantees 3g speeds between 600kbps and 1300kbps when you are within sprint's coverage area. Call back and speak to another retentions rep, or email [email protected] with your situation, and you will get a callback from a rep from his office within 48 hours.
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I too do not want to "rip-off" sprint but this applies to anywhere where the coverage map says I get coverage, correct?
Sprint just cancelled my services ETC free due to excessive roaming.....go figure.
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slimno19 said:
Sprint just cancelled my services ETC free due to excessive roaming.....go figure.
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So what network are you on now? You still have the pc36100 tag.
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sitlet said:
Yes there is, the contract guarantees 3g speeds between 600kbps and 1300kbps when you are within sprint's coverage area. Call back and speak to another retentions rep, or email [email protected] with your situation, and you will get a callback from a rep from his office within 48 hours.
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Can you provide a source for this? I am getting 2-8 kilobytes per second where i live using sprint. I am already up to 66 gigabytes of roaming data this month (and 30 last month) so I'll probably get kicked soon anyway, but it'd be nice to get out faster. I've called them complaining and trying to get out etf free 3 times and I dont think one more call is going to help without the exact quote. Thanks a bunch.

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