How do you know if your Being throttled without calling sprint?
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from my phone duh
Sprint does not throttle data.
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josh995 said:
Sprint does not throttle data.
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Such fail. EVERYONE THROTTLES....
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treckin said:
Such fail. EVERYONE THROTTLES....
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Where's your proof they specifically said they don't throttle and have true unlimited meaning no throttle or capping data
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treckin said:
Such fail. EVERYONE THROTTLES....
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Just because you say something doesn't make it true.
Sprint doesn't throttle.
Ya know maybe all our slow data speeds is becuase they are actually thorttling hhaha.
cmsjr123 said:
Ya know maybe all our slow data speeds is becuase they are actually thorttling hhaha.
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Says the person with a signature clocked at 6mbps?
cesarcerros31 said:
Where's your proof they specifically said they don't throttle and have true unlimited meaning no throttle or capping data
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I asked yahoo answers and they said yes.
sprint has no need to throttle. Nobody could ever exceed any data caps on their 3g network.
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I won't even try to exceed unlimited, sounds like it might be hard
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I asked yahoo answers and they said yes.
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HA
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Says the person with a signature clocked at 6mbps?
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hah Sorry that was while i was In LA
In barstow. I get about .09 down and .3 up even at 2 am....
So yea... i shoudl switch my sig butttt ^.^
So yea anyone ever notice that when we have really slow 3G speeds we say oh wth is wrong. What if nothing is wrong. Adn the reason why sprint isnt saying anything is that maybe they are throttling damn near everyone. Just a thought guys/girls men/women/cave thingy
easiest proof for you, go to an airave which guarantees you full signal, not your mom going oh look joshua baby, we have good signal, anyway you will get 2.3 down on 3g, sprint doesn't throttle...smh you just have bad reception in your area, its the same thing with every carrier, some in the same areas and some in different. no carrier is perfect. so no, sprint does not throttle, there is no midget in the tower "hitting the switch".
Being seriously over capacity everywhere because of infrastructure neglect (or failure to properly anticipate growth and demand) has the same effect on the end user. Hence the hostility when presented with a "we don't limit our junk ad".
I get avg .5 to .7 down where I live, but I stay on WiFi at home/work. There is no 4G anywhere close to SW Florida where I live, so I have always thought of my phone as an "EVO WiFi".
I'll never drop Sprint - but my next phone might be a clamshell, with a WiFi only tablet for web access.
Edit: OK, I probably would have Sprint on the tablet too... just in case... ever the optimist ;-)
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iitreatedii said:
easiest proof for you, go to an airave which guarantees you full signal, not your mom going oh look joshua baby, we have good signal, anyway you will get 2.3 down on 3g, sprint doesn't throttle...smh you just have bad reception in your area, its the same thing with every carrier, some in the same areas and some in different. no carrier is perfect. so no, sprint does not throttle, there is no midget in the tower "hitting the switch".
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While your logic appears sound, consider that the Airave provides something much more critical to connectivity than a strong signal. Not only does the Airave provides a very strong signal, it does so with a nearly perfect C.I.N.R. (carrier-to-interference-plus-noise-ratio). The C.I.N.R. is what determines the quality of the connection, not the signal strength.
Clear does not throttle Sprint-branded 4G.
Sprint-branded 4G devices operate on a "Sprint Only" permission set on Clear's network.
Sprint-branded 4G devices are not subject to Clear Wire's N.I.M.S. (Network Integrity Management System) protocol, also know as throttling.
Sprint doesn't throttle (yet).
Had a friend who is a telecommunications engineer, explain to me that when a tower is over worked, or even a city really, it will throttle each individual connection to "help spread the wealth" of bandwidth.
In example lets say a tower can put out 100 mb of bandwidth, and there are 50 phones connected to it, to prevent one guy getting 51MB and the other phones just getting 1MB each, the tower automatically throttles all the connections to a more even and consistent 2MB each.
(yes I know the numbers are not realistic or viable. Just giving an example)
So if he was right and this is true, it's not Sprint throttling individual people, it's them just trying to spread the wealth of speed more equally and consistent, when a tower is over worked.
Mark_in_Tulsa said:
Had a friend who is a telecommunications engineer, explain to me that when a tower is over worked, or even a city really, it will throttle each individual connection to "help spread the wealth" of bandwidth.
In example lets say a tower can put out 100 mb of bandwidth, and there are 50 phones connected to it, to prevent one guy getting 51MB and the other phones just getting 1MB each, the tower automatically throttles all the connections to a more even and consistent 2MB each.
(yes I know the numbers are not realistic or viable. Just giving an example)
So if he was right and this is true, it's not Sprint throttling individual people, it's them just trying to spread the wealth of speed more equally and consistent, when a tower is over worked.
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When people around here say "throttling" they mean:
"Severely limiting bandwidth after a user has used a preset amount of data for the month"
NOT network issues nor the inherent throttling that occurs in all connections. (To keep those connections stable)
MEH!
Sprint most certainly does throttle. While they may not have the need to in sparsely used areas, people in rural places are probably experiencing a combination of lousy coverage, and sub-par infrastructure.
People in suburban/urban areas etc. will notice their speed tests are awkwardly consistent. If the towers were crowded they wouldn't be consistent, they would be all over the place, spiking higher and lower, usually at different times of the day.
I can say for sure out here near Chicago, my speedtests always sit around 1mbps on a sense rom, and roughly .5mbps higher on CM7... Everytime, same location, in my house. Either that, or nobody in my area is using Sprint... Not very likely.
That is called throttling.
Other slow speeds should be attributed to crappy network. I've worked on lots of sprint sites, they are junk. Not maintained well, and very little Q.A. by their management. Poorly maintained.
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Sprint most certainly does throttle. While they may not have the need to in sparsely used areas, people in rural places are probably experiencing a combination of lousy coverage, and sub-par infrastructure.
People in suburban/urban areas etc. will notice their speed tests are awkwardly consistent. If the towers were crowded they wouldn't be consistent, they would be all over the place, spiking higher and lower, usually at different times of the day.
I can say for sure out here near Chicago, my speedtests always sit around 1mbps on a sense rom, and roughly .5mbps higher on CM7... Everytime, same location, in my house. Either that, or nobody in my area is using Sprint... Not very likely.
That is called throttling.
Other slow speeds should be attributed to crappy network. I've worked on lots of sprint sites, they are junk. Not maintained well, and very little Q.A. by their management. Poorly maintained.
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How many employees etc have to come here and tell you they don't before you get it?
Sprint does NOT throttle based on usage.
Furthermore if they did they would get slammed with lawsuits and their competition would slam them for lying.
It utterly amazes me how some people will submit their belief in something even when pure logic itself dictates it being incorrect.
You think (if sprint is lying) that everyone is just ignoring the lie?
Americans LOVE to sue and so do companies.
Lets stop fooling ourselves.
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Read here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/15/wimax-2-standard-and-its-theoretical-1gbps-downloads-to-be-fin/
Notice the second to last line. So it seems like for those of you that are deciding to keep off the Evo 3D bandwagon for this year (and maybe wait for some quad core action next year ) and are still clinging to your Evo's next year, you might see some 100megs down, that is, if Sprint decides to show your town a little love.
Omg if this is real...i just got a boner
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If I were Sprint I would be investing in this ASAP [as long as the lower bands are allowed to be used]
Yeah that's going to be sweet. Sprint is going to have a huge head start and if they plan right and upgrade towers quickly they may be able to get alot of customers back from Verizon. Wimax 2 WILL also be compatible with the Evo 3D because it will use the exact same Wimax chip (although from the article ANY original wimax chip will work). Hopefully Sprint will jump on this and start to truly shine as a stupid-fast, reliable, UNLIMITED network.
What all of you are missing is the bandwidth isn't true and can't reach those speeds IN ANY FORM or way. The max that can goto almost any tower are 100Mb connections. You would have to have 4-7 fibers going to EACH TOWER in order to reach those speeds.
Also what you're also forgetting is that they are "leasing" the bandwidth from the cable/phone providers. Certain states like FL, texas, and others with data centers will be the only ones reaching these speeds. However, it is very sad that we can get faster speeds with our mobile than we can with our hardwire connections directly to our house. lol
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What all of you are missing is the bandwidth isn't true and can't reach those speeds IN ANY FORM or way. The max that can goto almost any tower are 100Mb connections. You would have to have 4-7 fibers going to EACH TOWER in order to reach those speeds.
Also what you're also forgetting is that they are "leasing" the bandwidth from the cable/phone providers. Certain states like FL, texas, and others with data centers will be the only ones reaching these speeds. However, it is very sad that we can get faster speeds with our mobile than we can with our hardwire connections directly to our house. lol
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Oh no, ONLY 100mbit / second?
Why would they even bother?
I wouldn't expect to see this until like 2012(late) at least.
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I know I didn't word it right. but remember. it is a shared connection. with lots of people abusing the speeds. no caps on sprints networks for at least now. lol. BUT I do predict that they will attempt to prevent us from mod'ing our phones. hahahahahaha. *rolls over laughing*
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I know I didn't word it right. but remember. it is a shared connection. with lots of people abusing the speeds. no caps on sprints networks for at least now. lol. BUT I do predict that they will attempt to prevent us from mod'ing our phones. hahahahahaha. *rolls over laughing*
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Uh, what in the fun are you talking about?
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Check the post date of that article.
August 15th 2010
WiMax 2 has been in the works for a while. Just like LTE has an upgrade future. Both are moving forward to true 4G speeds.
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Check the post date of that article.
August 15th 2010
WiMax 2 has been in the works for a while. Just like LTE has an upgrade future. Both are moving forward to true 4G speeds.
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I read it, but I'm saying for it to become available(for most of the country) I said probably end of 2012. Sprints only going to kick this off in certain areas like with regular wimax(which still isn't available in all major cities yet).
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If Sprint continues to roll with WIMAX, they'd become the black sheep and alienate themselves.
Sprint should make the hop to LTE; The customers would benefit from it more-so by being able to roam on Verizons LTE network.
They are taking forever in Jersey, killin me
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Check the post date of that article.
August 15th 2010
WiMax 2 has been in the works for a while. Just like LTE has an upgrade future. Both are moving forward to true 4G speeds.
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Ya this is an older article, but I posted it because it gives facts about they new network. The technology was finally approved today. The article about it is on the main page of engadget.
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goodboynyc said:
If Sprint continues to roll with WIMAX, they'd become the black sheep and alienate themselves.
Sprint should make the hop to LTE; The customers would benefit from it more-so by being able to roam on Verizons LTE network.
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In sn interview Dan Hesse said a third of Sprints operating cost was going to back haul fees for using Verizon and at&ts networks. The last thing they probably want is to start roaming on versions network at 10Mbs.
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If Sprint continues to roll with WIMAX, they'd become the black sheep and alienate themselves.
Sprint should make the hop to LTE; The customers would benefit from it more-so by being able to roam on Verizons LTE network.
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Yet again after all the lengthy discussion this topic has had we still get ignotant comments like the one above. Sprint simply switching to LTE will NOT solve the coverage and building pen. problems currently seen with WiMax. Again its based on the Freq band. If they put WiMax on Nextel old freq when its finally put to rest then we'd be getting the same coverage VZ's LTE network would be getting as the building pen on the lower band is much greater.
WiMax isn't going anywhere so just get used to it. I dont expect Sprints 4G to increase and get better till they have taken all the Nextel service off that Freq and can then make their use of that freq with what they want. Likely with Clearwire doing LTE on that and using WiMax and LTE both which will be easy to employ with their network upgrade they are cuttently doing.
The reason I say LTE on the old Freq is because currently WiMax isn't provisioned to work on that freq and is only provisioned for 2.3 GHz, 2.5 GHz and 3.5 GHz currently. But I would think that once that 800MHz freq opens up with Nextel being off it, that sprint/clearwire could get it provisioned for that Freq.
ready by the end of 2012?? the world won't even be here!
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This is my final post for this section, as I'm typing the same **** over and over again, only for it to be ignored. Months passed, as it's a new thread with the same **** I've wrote months ago. Sprint's frequency is the sole reason as to why the building penetration isn't up to stuff, not the technology. LTE IS NOT THE REASON VERIZON'S 4G HAS BETTER BUILDING PENETRATION, IT'S THE FREQUENCY. Multi-mode towers will solve that problem.
Sprint's frequency is not the reason the speeds are ****. The speeds are **** because their 4G strategy is at a standstill. Not only is every current 4G tower in every city suppose to be upgraded, they were to blanket those cities with more towers. If Orlando have 13 towers spread throughout the city, Clearwire was to upgrade those towers, while increasing the total to 20. Clear didn't drop the ball, they punted it out the stadium. Best solution for both parties is for Clear to officially switch to Sprint's Network Vision, and also support Sprint's drive for LTE. Both already have LTE soft markets, but it needs to be made official for the public to know. Another solution is to switch their current WiMax solution to 802.16e Enhanced, while increasing the bandwidth to 20MHz.
Anyway, that's it from me. Go back to arguing with trolls who mentions Sprint more than Hesse himself, but obviously hate the company. It's entertaining.
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This is my final post for this section, as I'm typing the same **** over and over again, only for it to be ignored. Months passed, as it's a new thread with the same **** I've wrote months ago. Sprint's frequency is the sole reason as to why the building penetration isn't up to stuff, not the technology. LTE IS NOT THE REASON VERIZON'S 4G HAS BETTER BUILDING PENETRATION, IT'S THE FREQUENCY. Multi-mode towers will solve that problem.
Sprint's frequency is not the reason the speeds are ****. The speeds are **** because their 4G strategy is at a standstill. Not only is every current 4G tower in every city suppose to be upgraded, they were to blanket those cities with more towers. If Orlando have 13 towers spread throughout the city, Clearwire was to upgrade those towers, while increasing the total to 20. Clear didn't drop the ball, they punted it out the stadium. Best solution for both parties is for Clear to officially switch to Sprint's Network Vision, and also support Sprint's drive for LTE. Both already have LTE soft markets, but it needs to made official for the public to know. Another solution is to switch their current WiMax solution to 802.16e Enhanced, while increasing the bandwidth to 20MHz.
Anyway, that's it from me. Go back to arguing with trolls who mentions Sprint more than Hesse himself, but obviously hate the company. It's entertaining.
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God damn, I get tired of reading posts by people who obviously gained all of their knowledge by skimming articles and parroting what others have said, as opposed to doing any real research or reading.
Seems like God has it's issues too
http://androidandme.com/2011/04/car..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
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But but but ...Verizon is God.
This is what I've been saying, technology isn't perfect.
No amount of money can protect you from problems.
Sprints 4G has not gone down and we have five times the amount of users. 3G works fine in most areas except his borough on NY.
Either way, tech is tech, things happen.
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You know I could explain what went wrong here, but I'm slightly enjoying the I told you so feeling. Also, I'd rather wait to see it reach 2 million LTE subscribers before I mention my reasoning. Having said that, Verizon's LTE strategy is fantastic for the consumers, and their 3G/4G offering is currently better than Sprint's. To say your carrier's 3G works fine everywhere but NYC is laughable and silly. Steps were made to make both 3G/4G more enjoyable for the customers, and your patience will be rewarded.
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Seems like God has it's issues too
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Bwahahaha hmmm I wonder if he gonna show up. I'm sure he will
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You know I could explain what went wrong here, but I'm slightly enjoying the I told you so feeling. Also, I'd rather wait to see it reach 2 million LTE subscribers before I mention my reasoning. Having said that, Verizon's LTE strategy is fantastic for the consumers, and their 3G/4G offering is currently better than Sprint's. To say your carrier's 3G works fine everywhere but NYC is laughable and silly. Steps were made to make both 3G/4G more enjoyable for the customers, and your patience will be rewarded.
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Sprints network works fine except areas being upgraded where towers are being removed and integrated into one, we know this already, so yes it works fine in most areas believe me. The only reason I mentioned NY is because that's his area.
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Thank god I have the AT&T network to fall back on when it comes to data. I live in NJ and the service has gone to ****s.
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Sprint's network works great, except where it doesn't. Their 4G has never gone down, especially where it hasn't gone up yet.
Well, apparently I don't live in "most areas". Speeds here in Reno, Nevada range from barely tolerable to pathetic. At my house I average about 200 kbs down with a low of 87 kbs to just over 500 kbs. At work, in the middle of town, it averages a little better, around 800 kbs, but is much more erratic with lows around 100 kbs, and very rare highs of around 1600 kbs. Bottom line though, virtually all other carriers are faster than Sprint is here, by a pretty good margin. And it has been that way for about six months now. And then their is the 4g that was promised by the end of the year when I got my phone last June, lets just say I am not holding my breath. I think it would be a pretty good bet that all the other carriers will have 4g here before Sprint does.
That said, I am not necessarily a disgruntled customer. With the exception of Verizon, Sprint has the best coverage here, But Verizon's 4g probably won't get here any sooner than Sprints. ATT's phone call quality sucks, even though their 3g data speeds are at least 2-3 times faster than Sprint on Sprints best day. And Tmobile has the best speed of all, but their coverage totally sucks. So they all have their pros and cons. I'll stick it out for another year, until my current contract runs out. If Sprint doesn't get their act together by then though, I will definitely consider moving on.
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Sprints network works fine except areas being upgraded where towers are being removed and integrated into one, we know this already, so yes it works fine in most areas believe me. The only reason I mentioned NY is because that's his area.
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I've been with Sprint since 1999 and I'm not going anywhere; I'm a stick it through with them until their network gets better. However, I doubt that Sprint has been integrating the new system into the old one for over half a year in my area. In that amount of time, you would assume that at least one tower would be upgraded by now. My 3G service has 1x speeds everywhere I go in Miami.
Maybe it's one of those things where they can't flip the switch until EVERYTHING is upgraded......I don't know. However, anytime my girl sends me a short video of my kid doing something cute, it's a 20+ minute wait to download 5 MBs if I don't have 4G coverage or WiFi. I used to brag about how fast my phone was and now I try to sneak out of any conversation that has to do with data speeds. lol
DirtyShroom is thirsty to make his employer look good. Networks go down, and you act as if any of Sprint's network has never gone down before. Guess what, it has, and it probably will again.
BTW - I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them (EVO/Sprint + ATT/iPhone). What I have said in the past is that:
A) Sprint's EVDO network in NYC is pathetic right now, and most signs point to overcapacity.
B) Verizon's LTE is both faster and more usable because of it's frequency.
So it seems as if Verizon's LTE network is currently down, doesn't effect me, and by the end of the day, it probably won't effect anybody.
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DirtyShroom is thirsty to make his employer look good. Networks go down, and you act as if any of Sprint's network has never gone down before. Guess what, it has, and it probably will again.
BTW - I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them (EVO/Sprint + ATT/iPhone). What I have said in the past is that:
A) Sprint's EVDO network in NYC is pathetic right now, and most signs point to overcapacity.
B) Verizon's LTE is both faster and more usable because of it's frequency.
So it seems as if Verizon's LTE network is currently down, doesn't effect me, and by the end of the day, it probably won't effect anybody.
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So now you lie? You clearly stated you moved one of your two lines to Verizon. I'm just showing you that even Verizon has issues. This is clearly affecting all 500k users.
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I have absolutely no affiliation with Verizon. Don't even have an account with them
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You should
DirtyShroomz said:
So now you lie? You clearly stated you moved one of your two lines to Verizon. I'm just showing you that even Verizon has issues. This is clearly affecting all 500k users.
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Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
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Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
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Wow... So you never said you moved one line and were waiting until the Nexus to see if the network is fixed by then? Must have been another Award Tour or I could be completely wrong. Not searching on my phone for the post though.
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I distinctly remember this being said as well.
Let's own up to what we say.
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Find the post. You won't because it's all in your head. You choose to believe what you want to believe.
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I even remember you saying you moved a line to Verizon lol. People dont forget man!
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I distinctly remember this being said as well.
Let's own up to what we say.
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Agreed I remember that as well
Found the comparison in the first sentence amusing that sprint would call their own network crap.http://shop2.sprint.com/en/shop/why_sprint/4g/4g_plan_details.html click on speeds.
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Found the comparison in the first sentence amusing that sprint would call their own network crap.http://shop2.sprint.com/en/shop/why_sprint/4g/4g_plan_details.html click on speeds.
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from link;
How much faster is 4G?
4G speeds are up to 10 times faster than 3G. That's like swapping out DSL for a high-speed cable modem. Or your Model T for a Maserati.
AVERAGE PEAK MONTHLY
DOWNLOAD SPEEDS DOWNLOAD SPEEDS DOWNLOAD LIMIT
4G 3 - 6 Mbps More than 10 Mbps All you can stream, browse, email, chat, watch and game while on our network.
3G 600 Kbps - 1.4 Mbps Up to 3.1 Mbps All you can stream, browse, email, chat, watch and game while on our network.2
Who is getting 600-1.4 on 3g? If that is a model T, am am riding in a horse drawn carriage.
Or they could be saying that their 3g network was a marvel in working class engineering that brought freedom and equality to the common man, turning an agrarian country into the marvel of the western world. And in the same sense, a revolutionary product that re-vitalized the industrialized world and made possible the advanced infrastructure we enjoy today...
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from link;
How much faster is 4G?
4G speeds are up to 10 times faster than 3G. That's like swapping out DSL for a high-speed cable modem. Or your Model T for a Maserati.
AVERAGE PEAK MONTHLY
DOWNLOAD SPEEDS DOWNLOAD SPEEDS DOWNLOAD LIMIT
4G 3 - 6 Mbps More than 10 Mbps All you can stream, browse, email, chat, watch and game while on our network.
3G 600 Kbps - 1.4 Mbps Up to 3.1 Mbps All you can stream, browse, email, chat, watch and game while on our network.2
Who is getting 600-1.4 on 3g? If that is a model T, am am riding in a horse drawn carriage.
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My 3g In philadelphia is crazy sucking into south jersey. I usually get 200-300 down and sometimes in rare occasions / weird places (my office on 19th floor) do I actually get over 600.
If I was not paying $50 a month I would drop sprint like a bad habit.
if you dont get results like this, you need to call and get an airave. 3g shouldnt be that slow. even 600k down is laughable to me. 1Mb minimum download or i am not a happy camper.
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if you dont get results like this, you need to call and get an airave. 3g shouldnt be that slow. even 600k down is laughable to me. 1Mb minimum download or i am not a happy camper.
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Problem is that only works in your house....I could care less as I have FiOS and WiFi there.
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How much faster is 4G?
4G speeds are up to 10 times faster than 3G. That's like swapping out DSL for a high-speed cable modem. Or your Model T for a Maserati.
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Who is getting 600-1.4 on 3g? If that is a model T, am am riding in a horse drawn carriage.
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I get between 600-1.4 on 3G I get 3-8 on 4G
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My wifi is pathetic I get 312kbps down so an airave is out of the question. I get slooooow 3g as well 80kbps. Also I don't have 4g anywhere.
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Who is getting 600-1.4 on 3g? If that is a model T, am am riding in a horse drawn carriage.[/QUOTE]
Now that's funny
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Or they could be saying that their 3g network was a marvel in working class engineering that brought freedom and equality to the common man, turning an agrarian country into the marvel of the western world. And in the same sense, a revolutionary product that re-vitalized the industrialized world and made possible the advanced infrastructure we enjoy today...
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That's funny too
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austin420 said:
if you dont get results like this, you need to call and get an airave. 3g shouldnt be that slow. even 600k down is laughable to me. 1Mb minimum download or i am not a happy camper.
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Airrave? My wifi network has 3 times the coverage area as an airave not to mention being MUCH faster.
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Airrave? My wifi network has 3 times the coverage area as an airave not to mention being MUCH faster.
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Yayaya I got it. I wasn't even thinking. My bad. Who's got kickass internet? I've got time warner 50 down 25 up, but I'm waiting for the google fiber gigabit lines to go live and I'm ****ing on it.
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For a little comparison, I canceled my Sprint plan and went on Tmobile's $50 month to month with only 100mb 4G speeds, which I maxed quick. It dropped down to EDGE speeds and that itself is faster and more stable than what I was getting with Sprint at 0.2 Mbs
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Found the comparison in the first sentence amusing that sprint would call their own network crap.http://shop2.sprint.com/en/shop/why_sprint/4g/4g_plan_details.html click on speeds.
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This is a common problem - logic that is riddled with fallacies (flaws, for the OP and any others who struggle with the correct meanings of words, lol)
While we can all agree that a Maserati is *faster* than a model T, nothing about their statement implies that a model T is crap - only that it is slow *relative* to a Maserati. I'm not saying that anyone would argue that a Maserati isn't fast, but their statement doesn't address the absolute speed of a Maserati, because the statement is simply a comparison.
You tried to add unstated information into what was written when it is not inherently correct, or in other words, you tried to put words in their mouths
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This is a common problem - logic that is riddled with fallacies (flaws, for the OP and any others who struggle with the correct meanings of words, lol)
While we can all agree that a Maserati is *faster* than a model T, nothing about their statement implies that a model T is crap - only that it is slow *relative* to a Maserati. I'm not saying that anyone would argue that a Maserati isn't fast, but their statement doesn't address the absolute speed of a Maserati, because the statement is simply a comparison.
You tried to add unstated information into what was written when it is not inherently correct, or in other words, you tried to put words in their mouths
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There's plenty of comparisons they could have use against aMaserati that would make users not in 4g coverage feel better about what they've subscribed to. Hard for me to refer friends in Wisconsin to sprint using a model T as comparison to what their network speeds are going to be. Rebut that
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Today's Speed Test results: 0.14 - 0.23 mbps down, 1/2 that up. I broke 0.3"bandwith barrier" once though My coworker's Droid X: consistent 1.8-2.3 down, 1/2 up on 3G. 4g does not exist here. Comparisons like this make me strongly consider jumping ship for VZW (existing family plan) vs. sticking it out with SERO. To think that Sprint's 3G held its own and then some vs. VZW just a few years ago...
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Today's Speed Test results: 0.14 - 0.23 mbps down, 1/2 that up. I broke 0.3"bandwith barrier" once though My coworker's Droid X: consistent 1.8-2.3 down, 1/2 up on 3G. 4g does not exist here. Comparisons like this make me strongly consider jumping ship for VZW (existing family plan) vs. sticking it out with SERO. To think that Sprint's 3G held its own and then some vs. VZW just a few years ago...
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I am in the same boat as you, my parents have VZW family plan with 4 lines on it and I have had Sprint Sero for almost 10 years, I can remember Sprint never being this bad more than a year ago...it has just got progressively worse.
Everyone should visit here and complain post you findings on speeds in your area( http://community.sprint.com/baw/community/buzzaboutwireless/network-and-coverage?view=discussions )
Its a sprint monitored forum for network related problems. I have been on it starting today adding to pissed customers that are all experiencing crappy coverage.
Make our voices heard and maybe it will get us in que for these "enhancements" faster for our areas.
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For a little comparison, I canceled my Sprint plan and went on Tmobile's $50 month to month with only 100mb 4G speeds, which I maxed quick. It dropped down to EDGE speeds and that itself is faster and more stable than what I was getting with Sprint at 0.2 Mbs
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Seriously? I generally get over 1Mb on 3g in Tucson. And at home in Marana, I get about 700Kb and my place is on the VERY edge of Sprint's coverage area.
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Seriously? I generally get over 1Mb on 3g in Tucson. And at home in Marana, I get about 700Kb and my place is on the VERY edge of Sprint's coverage area.
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Its not about Sprints network type or signal strength, its all about the area your in and load. From seeing others report on it, and me experiencing it I can confirm that Sprints Back-end blows donkey ****. If there are too many users loading down a cell site you will see up to 200K max... it's pitiful
I have never seen speeds that low except on 1x
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Pretty big difference between Sprint and WiFi, which is useless when I still cannot make or receive calls... Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.
Ouch man, where do you live? Oh are you strictly speaking 3G? I average 1200 to 1400kbps on 3G
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That's not good. On the UK on my sensation (o2) I got 2mb down and 1 up
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That's not good. On the UK on my sensation (o2) I got 2mb down and 1 up
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3g isn't impressive at all but I am happy with my 4g speed considering its unlimited . 1.2 to 1.4Mbps download isn't great but I never use 3g anyway
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my sprint 3g looks like your wifi. usually around 2mbs. i heart sprint. i think ill go make a thread about it.
austin420 said:
my sprint 3g looks like your wifi. usually around 2mbs. i heart sprint. i think ill go make a thread about it.
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I am really satisfied with Sprint myself. If only the younger users know what using a cell phone used to be like...
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I am really satisfied with Sprint myself. If only the younger users know what using a cell phone used to be like...
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Can you hear me now?
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We were supposed to have 4g a year ago and don't and won't ever have it. Its the iPhone users causing the data issues and Sprints poor decision to carry it on this old network. Im guessing people with good 3g service don't have many iPhone users in their area.
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. Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.
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If you read the stories, people are complaining that the iPhone is getting much slower data than other Sprint phones in side by side comparisons, same time same location.
Seriously, I hate iPhones as much as you do, but why are you blaming them for your crappy service? They don't use any more data than high end android phones. Sounds like the tower in your area has an issue. Maybe they are doing maintenance.
I just ran a speedtest at my house, which has always been a low signal area. (side of a hill, shadowed from the tower). Today I'm getting 2 bars (never seen more than 3 here, usually get 1 or zero.) and in 3 tests I got a low of 226 kbps and a high of 320 kbsp on 3G. Pretty normal for the location. Trust me, the iPhone is everywhere in this neighborhood.
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If you read the stories, people are complaining that the iPhone is getting much slower data than other Sprint phones in side by side comparisons, same time same location.
Seriously, I hate iPhones as much as you do, but why are you blaming them for your crappy service? They don't use any more data than high end android phones. Sounds like the tower in your area has an issue. Maybe they are doing maintenance.
I just ran a speedtest at my house, which has always been a low signal area. (side of a hill, shadowed from the tower). Today I'm getting 2 bars (never seen more than 3 here, usually get 1 or zero.) and in 3 tests I got a low of 226 kbps and a high of 320 kbsp on 3G. Pretty normal for the location. Trust me, the iPhone is everywhere in this neighborhood.
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I doubt they're doing maintenance. We're usually the last city for anything with Sprint, and this bad service started for me also right after the iPhone launch, it could be anything, but it coincides with that.
And what sucks is the week of the iPhone launch I was able to download the cm7 ROM in less then 30 minutes, now I'm lucky to get 1 bar of signal if I hold the phone just right.
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My signal has been wavering in the last few weeks. I go back-and-forth between 4 bars to none. I live in a metropolitan area that too was promised 4G over a year ago by sales representatives in-store. (Yea... no need to comment on that. I already know the responses, ha ha.)
If you are unhappy, you have three options:
Leave Sprint for another carrier.
Call Sprint and complain. You may be able to get some type of monetary and/or technical assistance for the issues.
Do nothing and enjoy the wonders of Sprint's "marvelous" network.
The last option is my tactic for now, as I want to give Sprint the opportunity to fix their coverage in my area. Though my patience is wearing thin.
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....just long enough for this test.
Pretty big difference between Sprint and WiFi, which is useless when I still cannot make or receive calls... Here's the bottom line people. Read the Sprint forums and listen to iPhone users *****ing that Sprint has crippled "their data service" Really? LMFAO! It's the iPhone users that have crippled service for everyone else. I think since they have flooded "our data network" that those of us who have garbage service right now should be flooding Sprint's call center and demanding they do something about it. No fees, no Premium Data charges, service credit, something! A few people cant get anything done but several thousand can.
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I too get between 1.0 to 1.4 Mps with my 3g speeds.
You need to talk to sprint about getting air rave or change your prl to verizon or something. Those speeds are just sorry.
JohnCorleone said:
Ouch man, where do you live? Oh are you strictly speaking 3G? I average 1200 to 1400kbps on 3G
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Shut up man You're killing me with your "super" 3G speeds..
I just posted on twitter yesterday about this. I'm getting .25-200kbps down and 24kbps up. :-(
It's been like this for months. I got the next 4 months free though, so I can't really complain. They are currently upgrading capacity in my area. I can't take this much longer.
Nice to see you
My 3g is fast and signal is always good where I live.. switch carriors if your area doesn't have good services .....
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I got the next 4 months free though, so I can't really complain.
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Sounds like you're getting what you're paying for!
In all seriousness, pathetic speeds, but their customer service at least seems good. I can't complain around here... Just pulled 1057/370 on 3G.
I just pulled 653kb down and 459kb up. Not as bad as some (Rob) but still pretty pathetic.
@John: Between your super 3G speeds and the battery life shots Zigg & Paul keep sending me from their Nexus S's, I'm a sad panda here.
Has anyone else had problems with 4g connecting todayin the baltimore area?
At my work location in Long Island, I get the same speeds with Sprint 3G as I get on Verizon 1x (RoamControl) = pathetic. It is indoors but close to a window. 2 bars with Sprint, 5 with VZW. Once Prime is released, methinks it's goodbye Sprint, hello VZW data caps
Hang in there. I can honestly say I was in your boat for months here. They finally rolled out extra capacity in my city last Thursday. I'm getting 1.5 MBits/sec at last.
Before that, I was getting 50kbps down, or sometimes it would timeout.
But you should call in and file a complaint. I'd imagine problems tend to get fixed faster on the technicians queues with more complaints.
That network speed test that your using will get you mixed results. Change your closest tower in the setting and try again. I was getting the same results whe I picked my hometown kalamazoo, mi. But when I picked chicago. My speed went up. I notice this while doing a speed test on my home computer. Then when I had my wifi on my phone I was getting a third of the speeed I should of.
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So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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No, they don't throttle.
myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use.
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HAHA welcome to the "Now Network". Sprint=dial-up speeds. Myself, or my 3 friends on Sprint, haven't gotten above 100kbps since last October. It happens everywhere I travel too. Well, except between 2am and 4am, then it works perfectly fine, when everyone else is asleep.
It seems to me like they do during the day. My 3g is not near as fast as it used to be during the day. It wasnt a gradual decrease. More like a sudden. While my connection at my house still pulls 1.0-1.3mbps at my house during the day, I used to get 2+mbps there during the day. Now I don't get that speed til 1-5am. You're probably thinking "wtf are you *****ing about?!" Cuz it is very fast at my house. ****ty part is that everywhere else its nowhere near 1.0mbps. More like 0.2-0.4. And I'm NEVER home. That's the problem. Oh well. Its either live with it or go pay $40-50 more to get raped by verizon.
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Mine used to be around 3Mb/s on 3g, that was when I first got my contract. It seems the more I tethered and used more and more data the slower it got. yestursay I got .25 mb/s! Flashed radios this morning and i'm up to 1.
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It seems to me like they do during the day.
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No, they don't throttle during the day, they dont throttle at all. The reason your speeds are crappy during the day is because there are too many people using it during the day, and each tower's crappy T1 line backhaul can't handle more than a few MB/s total for everyone connected to it.
Darn you other sprint users i'm my area, turn your 3g off!
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One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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megabiteg said:
One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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Please don't talk about things you know nothing of. Verizon has MVNOs just as Sprint does.
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DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
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No it is just naturally slow. I guess you could say it comes "pre-throttled"
KJ
Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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Paid hotspots are now limited to 5gb data per month did ya not get the notice? After 5gb hotspot ur either throttled or paying per mb FYI
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I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Deathsnuggle said:
So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.
tmwilsoniv said:
The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.
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Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense now, how I get throttled living in a city of 600k, but someone out in a rural area remains untouched. It's all good tho, just discovered a new open wifi here in the neighborhood... lol
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I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Ha! I had one of those Nokias, but my first real cell phone was an Oki 910. Before that it was a Motorola bag phone, still have that old beast in storage some where.. Just bought some new boots, the box would fit in the "bag" lol
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