[Q] Will the Nook ever get a.. - Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

..fully working Honeycomb? What do you think? Is a fully working Honecomb ROM possible? May it be 3.0 or 3.1 with all those nice honeycomb-native-apps working?

fattymcdirty said:
..fully working Honeycomb? What do you think? Is a fully working Honecomb ROM possible? May it be 3.0 or 3.1 with all those nice honeycomb-native-apps working?
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Ha? We have two out already and only zoom has it out really...for the new version. Everybody is working with the prerelease sdk. Those in the development section ARE honeycomb and it cannot yet be full driver ready till the release of source or until new release gets ported over. If you mean from Barnes and noble, I do not know. I am running leaked transformer version and it is smooth as it can be.

life64x said:
I am running leaked transformer version and it is smooth as it can be.
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Which one is that? I thought that all those Honeycomb images out yet for the Nook aren't smooth at all and have compatibility issues with many apps. And The tablet versions from some apps (like GMail) aren't even working...

fattymcdirty said:
Which one is that? I thought that all those Honeycomb images out yet for the Nook aren't smooth at all and have compatibility issues with many apps. And The tablet versions from some apps (like GMail) aren't even working...
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I forgot to mention it is on my transformer...not nook I was running leaked 3.1. I found that both of the nook honeycombs where semi solid with for me just to test honeycomb. I knew off the bat they are pre-production HC and I treated them as such. Cm 7 for nook is solid and been very content with it. The reason why a lot of apps have fc is the simple fact there was really no production sdk for development till recently. And how do you develop when you dont have the right environment. I want honeycomb bad...but if it is not there, it is not there...what I want is the new kor-el chip tablet...but I gotta wait till end of year for that. For now, honeycomb is just a toy on the nook and I would not really depend on it...that is my opinion, there are others whose it daily and more power to them. It will take a developer to port it for the nook most likely and that will be off in the near, medium or far future...I do not know.

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[Q] Is there any project about Honeycomb on HD2?

Is there any project about Honeycomb on HD2? Do you know somebody tries to port it?
there was a thread in the dev section with honeycomb but i think most efforts now are getting gingerbread working propelrly and with sense 3 coming out honeycomb has taken a backburner to it all
Lack of interest from devs I guess, and community. Seeing as everyone loves sense and gingerbread. And I don't think most are keen on the idea of a tablet ui on a phone.
If you go to the SD builds, there's a regularly updated build that emulates Gingerbread. I used it last night and quite liked it, and I may try it again when I have the time
EDIT: Sorry, Honeycomb
smeddy said:
If you go to the SD builds, there's a regularly updated build that emulates Gingerbread. I used it last night and quite liked it, and I may try it again when I have the time
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honeycomb or gingerbread? they are different os's
it is bootable now, let push imilka more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978939
its not stable i'll wait for something more stable
sarp_pasha said:
its not stable i'll wait for something more stable
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No more work can be done on Honeycomb until Google release all the source code needed, getting everything working on Gingerbread sense appears to be the main focus for most now but still issues like camcorder and glitches,etc to sort out alongside some other small issues.
and they aren't planning to release the source 'till ice cream thingy is released, sometime around.after the end of teh year, they dont want people putting it on phones, cos they used trickery to make it work on tablets(is their official stance) ((all part of their slow gentle move towards controlling their own phone OS, in an iOS/WP7-like way, in my uneducated, wildguessworklike opinion, , ))

Honeycomb 3.0 can run on our tabs

Well this is it guys. Prof that Honeycomb doesn`t have hardware requirements.
Does not need a dual procesor to run. In fact Spacemoose1 made something for us, to bad it didn`t finish, but he promise to come back with something new and good.
source: http://www.bestandroidappssite.info/honeycomb-hardware-requirements-false
We just need that brilliants developers from here to heading attention to this and let Gingerbread for the unroot people.
Thanks for support.
Dude where have you been all this time? but thanks for reminding us anyways, just so you know honeycomb for gsm tab is already in the works by spacemoose1 and a cdma version is also under alpha testing, anyone correct me if im wrong... so we all just sit and wait for it to be properly released peace bro
overcome KRATOS
zaoltryence said:
Dude where have you been all this time? but thanks for reminding us anyways, just so you know honeycomb for gsm tab is already in the works by spacemoose1 and a cdma version is also under alpha testing, anyone correct me if im wrong... so we all just sit and wait for it to be properly released peace bro
overcome KRATOS
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Wait has spacemoose gone back to doing HC for the tab? Last time I heard he abandoned the project. Or is there something I'm missing?
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throwback1718 said:
Wait has spacemoose gone back to doing HC for the tab? Last time I heard he abandoned the project. Or is there something I'm missing?
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He said about a month ago that he is working for porting or makeing working Honeycomb 3.2 for GTab`s, becouse has less to work do to suporting 7" screens that 3.2 brings. But i didn`t hear nothing then and i`m not shure if he abandon the project or is involve in others to and doesn`t have time.
I thank him even if he abandon the project becouse he was the only one that has macking working and i`ve tested on my Tab.
Pray to do another port of 3.2
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wackymix said:
Well this is it guys. Prof that Honeycomb doesn`t have hardware requirements.
Does not need a dual procesor to run. In fact Spacemoose1 made something for us, to bad it didn`t finish, but he promise to come back with something new and good.
source: http://www.bestandroidappssite.info/honeycomb-hardware-requirements-false
We just need that brilliants developers from here to heading attention to this and let Gingerbread for the unroot people.
Thanks for support.
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That way you wont feel stupid after a bunch of people tell you it has already been posted...in January.
last i heard HC was abandoned because of every1 nagging the devs about it. but that was for the cdma version. maybe we'll have better luck with the gsm devs.
Judging by what was said at google IO ice cream sandwich (ics for the puropose of this) is going to replace honeycomb and gingerbread and it wouldn't surprise me if cm8 (or whatever it is) is based on ics which may come to the galaxy tab
NOTE: these are presumptions which may not be correct so don't quote me on this!!
Wow really!? Totally amazing thanks for posting guy!
This is great
I just updated the GT to Gingerbread 2.3.3 and its working much better now
wonder what to expect from the Tab with honeycomb
Raps
Is this even worth doing though, Its not stable?
I would wait for a future more stable version, can anybody else comment?
mmk to clear up a bit of stuff here Spacemose1 is no longer doing HC no 3.0 not even 3.2 no questions asked so dont bother him about it. CDMA version was picked up by spacemoose1's partner in crime Oldmacnut (self proclaimed Very Green Developer) hes doing his best with what hes got. Recently there was alot of whinning and crying about HC so he intended to shut the project down for good
Long story short cooler heads prevail and he decided to pick up on HC again. On 10/1/2011 HC for CDMA only due to lack of a gsm tablet was taken from Alpha to Beta Status offering a "possible 3g fix" maybe more but the zip file is corrupt so a hemidall file's are supposed to drop for us soon.
So, does the honeycomp can run on Samsung Galaxy tab of 7 inches?
Do you know a site where you can download all Honeycomp roms from all the world?
Do you know a guide to upgrade the gingerbread to honeycomp version?
Do you know how to re-enable the light from keys menu (menu, home, back, search)?
Johnkond said:
So, does the honeycomp can run on Samsung Galaxy tab of 7 inches?
Do you know a site where you can download all Honeycomp roms from all the world?
Do you know a guide to upgrade the gingerbread to honeycomp version?
Do you know how to re-enable the light from keys menu (menu, home, back, search)?
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yes it runs on galaxy tab 7 but it isnt complete has bugs and still in process of being completed so dont expect anything to fancy just yet
Xda-devlopers under samsung galaxy development
search the forums for install Read everything before posting questions
Not sure what you mean about enableing lights if you havent installed HC how do you know lights dont work?
Johnkond said:
So, does the honeycomp can run on Samsung Galaxy tab of 7 inches?
Do you know a site where you can download all Honeycomp roms from all the world?
Do you know a guide to upgrade the gingerbread to honeycomp version?
Do you know how to re-enable the light from keys menu (menu, home, back, search)?
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Try button backlight widget from market.
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ics will most likely replace honeycomb,
but until then
download honeycomb launcher,ripple lock & honeybread theme(if your on boca, cm7 or MIUI) from the market
Unless the the amazing guys in the dev section can do something deemed impossible by the manufacture, without any sort of actual source code, its the closest you'r going to get.
I think the developers love to make it stable and usable.. I really support those guys who is trying to port HC to galaxy tab. I'ma GSM user. Hope someone can make HC for GSM galaxy tab too.
google has said honeycomb was rushed out & will never be open source. With ICS on the horizon it makes no sense to push for honeycomb.
Is there a point of installing HC on our out dated Tabs now???
What is the point of upgrading software when hardware isn't par?
I feel the same about GB as well, I feel like Froyo runs best on the Tab.
But that's just my humble opinion, dont take offense or defensive.

Thinking about getting a nook, whats stable?

im a android fan boy, currently rocking the nexus s 4g.
i can get a nook for a good deal so im really interested.
i love honeycomb but from what i can tell its buggy?
the dev forum is kinda a mess and i dont know whats new or whats old?
so whats the most stable and fast to use for surfing, downloading apps, typical android stuff.
what honey comb rom is stable?
im just pretty lost, the forum is bulked up with stuff everywhere.
CM7 is the best rom for the Nook period. Go with the latest Nightly as stables are less stable than the nightlys these days and so far behind feature wise it isn't even funny.
About honeycomb: its never going to happen. Ever. Google will not put out the source code and what we have now has been reverse engineered from the SDK and it is basically unusable.
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koopakid08 said:
CM7 is the best rom for the Nook period. Go with the latest Nightly as stables are less stable than the nightlys these days and so far behind feature wise it isn't even funny.
About honeycomb: its never going to happen. Ever. Google will not put out the source code and what we have now has been reverse engineered from the SDK and it is basically unusable.
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thanks,
i heard overclocked that the nook really flies, and it blows other pads like the touchpad out the water (that is of course until the TP ever gets android ported)
Blindly grabbing the latest nightly may not be the best advice--I always poke my head in this thread and check the last page or so to make sure there's not a rash of trouble reports before I download a new nightly. The vast majority are quite stable, but every once in a while there's a dud. I also generally don't grab a nightly that's less than a day old.
I agree that CM7 is the best rom so far, but I will also suggest to try every rom out there. Flashing a ROM on the NC is extremely simple, unlike say, a Samsung Captivate (I have one).
kafepuya said:
I agree that CM7 is the best rom so far, but I will also suggest to try every rom out there. Flashing a ROM on the NC is extremely simple, unlike say, a Samsung Captivate (I have one).
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Since most are based on CM7 and many people start having issues when updating to different ROMS and then trying to go back I would stick with CM7.
What's Stable
I'd have to say that CM7 is the most stable ROM that is available for the Nook Color. I know that the Honeycomb build is coming along, but until Google actually opens up the Honeycomb source it's not going to make the strides you want.
CM7 based off of Gingerbread is an excellent build. ClockWorkMOD (CWM) is now on 3.2.0.1 and supports Nooks with v1.3 firmware.
ManualNooter 4.6.16 - Gain Root
ClockWorkMOD (CWM) - 3.2.01
CM7 nightly release - running Ginergergread #200.
Nook Tweaks - Overclock your Nook and gain some audio fixes. (built in overclock kernal).
The only hiccup I have encountered is the Market issue with CM7. There are various fixes out there, the easiest being to reset your LCD Density. Besides that the ROM is table and works great.
I'd wait for the Honeycomb port to fully "develop" before I start using it.
HyperSLUX said:
I'd wait for the Honeycomb port to fully "develop" before I start using it.
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I think you can start forget about the Honeycomb and keep fingers crossed for ICS.
HyperSLUX said:
I'd wait for the Honeycomb port to fully "develop" before I start using it.
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Sorry to break it too you but honeycomb won't ever "develop" its basically as far as the devs can go without source code.
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Yea i dont think anything will come about honeycomb without a source.
look at motorolas without kernel sources.
im running the nexus s 4g now and love it.
coming from a evo, epic 4g, optimus and now the nexus.
truth be told i love android.
im going to try to get a nook for around 125.
unless i score a touchpad for 99.
so its very stable and quick?
i wouldnt notice a difference with lets say a store bought tab (within reason of course)?
Got mine in the summer and started with 7.1.0 ever. Ran that for a month and then got nightly 172 and ben using that since. Running on sd card - SanDisk 16GB, cl 4. I have the occasional fc and reboot about once or twice a month.

I have nightmares about ICS

so im using the ics rom and looks great. I know its an alpha build so there aire things to polish. But im having nightmares about ics been like honeycomb when it came out...apps not working, games not been supported yet, the same thing that happen from 3.0 to 3.1 to 3.2 everything had to be repatched to work. I'm seen games doing the same thing. Dead space worked fine on 3.2 now it works like in 3.1 the screen only works in portrait mode. Modern Combat 3 doesn't even load,gta 3 closing every minute (like game loft games from 3.1 to 3.2) I just hope that when the official from gets a release...everything is patched to work. I don't hate pics but am afraid I'll have o wait 3 months to things to work.
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so im using the ics rom and looks great. I know its an alpha build so there aire things to polish. But im having nightmares about ics been like honeycomb when it came out...apps not working, games not been supported yet, the same thing that happen from 3.0 to 3.1 to 3.2 everything had to be repatched to work. I'm seen games doing the same thing. Dead space worked fine on 3.2 now it works like in 3.1 the screen only works in portrait mode. Modern Combat 3 doesn't even load,gta 3 closing every minute (like game loft games from 3.1 to 3.2) I just hope that when the official from gets a release...everything is patched to work. I don't hate pics but am afraid I'll have o wait 3 months to things to work.
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I think it will take awhile for app developers to get up to speed with ICS but more of them will have the incentive to do so as all devices will eventually be running on it.
Yes I just hope that doesn't take more than 3 months...in time of a devices that is an eternity. Why does everything have to be patched or re downloaded to work every update that comes out. But I guess I'll have to go with the flow and accept ics as my new Savior
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Yes I just hope that doesn't take more than 3 months...in time of a devices that is an eternity. Why does everything have to be patched or re downloaded to work every update that comes out. But I guess I'll have to go with the flow and accept ics as my new Savior
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Well, think about it, this is a new version of the Android operating system so not everything is going to be compatible out-the-box. Remember, PC operating systems are the same. When you upgrade from Windows XP to Windows 7, some applications that were fine on XP just don't work properly on 7 and it's up to the application developer to fix it for the new version.
Same with Android. Google provided the ICS SDK a while ago so app devs have had a while to make their apps compatible before ICS was actually released, but sometimes people just don't have as much time to do stuff like this as we would like so we just need to wait patiently for the devs to fix their apps. (Of course, if it's a paid app, emailing them for a timeline isn't out of the question).
Welcome to being an early adopter.
jerses said:
so im using the ics rom and looks great. I know its an alpha build so there aire things to polish.
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This is where you went wrong. There's not just things that need polish, there's things that still need to be developed. Betas are for polish. They're still in nightly phase right now, its expected that there be a laundry list of imperfections and outright non-functioning features. They're also missing some rather important code (the binaries for a few things) meaning its still going to be a while before some things like the cameras can even begin to function. Additionally, we rely on app developers transitioning to ICS support. This will take time.
Have patience. We are in the early, early phases. ICS is proving to be more powerful than I ever imagined (its ridiculously fast) and with some time it will be refined quite well.
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This is where you went wrong. There's not just things that need polish, there's things that still need to be developed. Betas are for polish. They're still in nightly phase right now, its expected that there be a laundry list of imperfections and outright non-functioning features. They're also missing some rather important code (the binaries for a few things) meaning its still going to be a while before some things like the cameras can even begin to function. Additionally, we rely on app developers transitioning to ICS support. This will take time.
Have patience. We are in the early, early phases. ICS is proving to be more powerful than I ever imagined (its ridiculously fast) and with some time it will be refined quite well.
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Im nota worried about this rom inknown devs are hard working and will make aun awsome ir nota better ics rom. What im worried mis about apps support. I just hope it doesnt take that mucho like hc did.
jerses said:
Im nota worried about this rom inknown devs are hard working and will make aun awsome ir nota better ics rom. What im worried mis about apps support. I just hope it doesnt take that mucho like hc did.
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Regarding app support, please see my earlier post and please understand that it is down to each individual app developer to update their app, as it is with EVERY operating system, the ROM team can do nothing about this.

[Q] Honeycomb on KF? Vs ICS

Ahoy mateys. I've been a longtime Android user (October 2009) and have never been much for running the stock OS on my devices.
Currently I've been running CM7 and loving it on the KF. Been keeping tabs on the ICS port over, just waiting for the sound issues to be hammered out as I use the device mostly for watching videos via RockPlayer.
Lately I've been thinking about trying to port over Honeycomb to the KF, as it might be simpler given that it's been around longer. I know that it's somewhat futile given the state of the 3.0 kernel being needed for HW acceleration. But it seems like it could be worthwhile just to test it and see what might happen. Give it more tablety goodness if anything!
I'm a programmer by trade and am majoring in CS. Not much dev experience on Android aside from writing games. But I've built Gentoo for my machines, so I've got some kernel knowledge. What do you guys think?
Regards,
-Free
P.S. I don't have 10 posts so this is in General.
freeqaz said:
Ahoy mateys. I've been a longtime Android user (October 2009) and have never been much for running the stock OS on my devices.
Currently I've been running CM7 and loving it on the KF. Been keeping tabs on the ICS port over, just waiting for the sound issues to be hammered out as I use the device mostly for watching videos via RockPlayer.
Lately I've been thinking about trying to port over Honeycomb to the KF, as it might be simpler given that it's been around longer. I know that it's somewhat futile given the state of the 3.0 kernel being needed for HW acceleration. But it seems like it could be worthwhile just to test it and see what might happen. Give it more tablety goodness if anything!
I'm a programmer by trade and am majoring in CS. Not much dev experience on Android aside from writing games. But I've built Gentoo for my machines, so I've got some kernel knowledge. What do you guys think?
Regards,
-Free
P.S. I don't have 10 posts so this is in General.
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Personally, I think it's a good idea, and that you should do it. You'll probably get a lot of people saying there's no point cause ICS is what honeycomb should've been. I've never used honeycomb before, so I don't know how different it is from ICS but I'm sure there are some.
I think you should do it to give this device and its users another ROM choice, with a different android version. Or even just for the fact that you might want to use it, do it for yourself and post it here just to see if people want it. I'd try it out, even if ICS is out and stable haha
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Personally, I think it's a good idea, .... I've never used honeycomb before...
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Huh?
Why would you encourage someone to work on something when you yourself don't know what the differences are between them??
ICS is Honeycomb just taking to what was its planned completion. With many Honeycomb devices moving to ICS I don't see the point.
That would be doing a lot of work, just to end up with an in between OS with all the new support going to ICS which is what everyone that can get it wants.
Also, for someone with no Android programming experience, you most likely would be a lot better of working with apps before tackling a whole OS.
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Huh?
Why would you encourage someone to work on something when you yourself don't know what the differences are between them??
ICS is Honeycomb just taking to what was its planned completion. With many Honeycomb devices moving to ICS I don't see the point.
That would be doing a lot of work, just to end up with an in between OS with all the new support going to ICS which is what everyone that can get it wants.
Also, for someone with no Android programming experience, you most likely would be a lot better of working with apps before tackling a whole OS.
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I'd like to check it out. It's not like I'm telling him that he needs to do this, he asked what people thought of the idea because he was interested in doing it, and I voiced my opinion.
Though I do agree that it might be easier to work with apps and then maybe work on a ROM, but hey, if he's willing to attempt it and learn how everything works, why stop him? The more devs, the merrier lol
Isn't the problem with porting honeycomb is that it was never truly open source?
My understanding is there was never a source release for honeycomb
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Isn't the problem with porting honeycomb is that it was never truly open source?
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Yea, that is, AFAIK, why there was never a CM8. I don't think it would be worth OP's time to try to reverse-engineer a Honeycomb tablet and shoehorning it into the KF.
However, the OP might want to donate some of their time to the ICS port
It is open source after all...
[email protected] said:
Isn't the problem with porting honeycomb is that it was never truly open source?
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I believe Google released the source for Honeycomb when they released the source for ICS
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Hit up this Google announcement, they did indeed release the source.
This release includes the full history of the Android source code
tree, which naturally includes all the source code for the Honeycomb
releases. However, since Honeycomb was a little incomplete, we want
everyone to focus on Ice Cream Sandwich. So, we haven't created any
tags that correspond to the Honeycomb releases (even though the
changes are present in the history.)
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groups.google dot com/forum/#!topic/android-building/T4XZJCZnqF8
The only thing that I really want to know is if there is a significant driver difference between ICS and Honeycomb. If there is, then there is a reason to try to port 3.0 over because it would have more driver support. There are 3.0 devices out in the wild. If there isn't a driver difference between 3.0 and 4.0, then it's futile and all efforts should be spent on 4.0.
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I believe Google released the source for Honeycomb when they released the source for ICS
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Indeed.
And when they released the source for ICS, they elaborated on why they included Honeycomb in the Source tree: To essentially display the hacks they were forced to use to push Honeycomb to market. Honeycomb was never AOSP'd because it wasn't reliable for wider use.
Based upon the fact that Google was basically too ashamed to release Honeycomb to AOSP, I don't think it would make much sense to target a broken platform (Honeycomb).
IMO, if you're going to spend time trying to work on getting a more tablet-oriented version of Android running, it's probably going to be *easier* to work with ICS than Honeycomb. Moreover your contributions could assist the greater KF community in getting a stable base of ICS for all.

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