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Senseless roms really arent... are they

So, coming from a string of G1's and a Nexus, I cannot stand SenseUi. At ALL. I can live with the widgets and launcher- they are actually tolerable- what I cant accept are the keyboard, the way contacts are brought up, the lack of cut/paste in several areas, and all the frilly crud that goes along with it. I seek a TRUE vanilla rom, based on Android components not HTC. People constantly recommend using advanced launcher or one similar, but these are just launchers- they dont change the stuff back to stock that I seek. So my question is, can there ever be a REAL vanilla rom that has none of the Sense components? Is it possible to de-theme these areas in similar fashion to how the current de-sensing works, or would it require that HTC releases a vanilla version (which they never will). I guess I am asking, am I fighting a loosing battle?

You are coming from an N1 and asking this question?
Really?
Cyanogenmod ring a bell?

i was in the same boat as you. i am on cyanogen now, however there are a few issues with this port. on the nexus i didn't ever have any issues with cm6 but on the incredible you have to install another kernel after you install cm6 so that the camera will work, the camcorder just doesn't work yet, and when i have wifi on i get a reboot about once a day. i live with it because like you i hate sense ui but i wish they would have released a n1 for verizon. they did just release the source code for 2.6.32 which is froyo today, so the code shoulod be added into the nightlies of cm6 shortly.

It's been said that the latest radio fixes many (if not all) of those problems in Cyanogen on DInc. I can't attest to this being true or not, but some people were talking about it last night in the "Unrevoked - Forever" thread in the dev section.

cool! so there is hope. I figured the CM rom would be truly vanilla, but since it had so many little oddities I haven't given it a go yet. Good to know there is the possibility. Thanks guys

gospeed.racer said:
cool! so there is hope. I figured the CM rom would be truly vanilla, but since it had so many little oddities I haven't given it a go yet. Good to know there is the possibility. Thanks guys
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The new .32 kernel source that was just released will also allow koush to finish CM6 for the incredible. Basically now that this new kernel is out the bluetooth stack and everything else including the camcorder not working in CM6 will all work once implemented.
Even though the bluetooth works perfect in CM6 unlike normal senseui roms. /letting out BT steam

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I wonder when this will be ready?

[Q] Is there any project about Honeycomb on HD2?

Is there any project about Honeycomb on HD2? Do you know somebody tries to port it?

there was a thread in the dev section with honeycomb but i think most efforts now are getting gingerbread working propelrly and with sense 3 coming out honeycomb has taken a backburner to it all

Lack of interest from devs I guess, and community. Seeing as everyone loves sense and gingerbread. And I don't think most are keen on the idea of a tablet ui on a phone.

If you go to the SD builds, there's a regularly updated build that emulates Gingerbread. I used it last night and quite liked it, and I may try it again when I have the time
EDIT: Sorry, Honeycomb

smeddy said:
If you go to the SD builds, there's a regularly updated build that emulates Gingerbread. I used it last night and quite liked it, and I may try it again when I have the time
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honeycomb or gingerbread? they are different os's

it is bootable now, let push imilka more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978939

its not stable i'll wait for something more stable

sarp_pasha said:
its not stable i'll wait for something more stable
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No more work can be done on Honeycomb until Google release all the source code needed, getting everything working on Gingerbread sense appears to be the main focus for most now but still issues like camcorder and glitches,etc to sort out alongside some other small issues.

and they aren't planning to release the source 'till ice cream thingy is released, sometime around.after the end of teh year, they dont want people putting it on phones, cos they used trickery to make it work on tablets(is their official stance) ((all part of their slow gentle move towards controlling their own phone OS, in an iOS/WP7-like way, in my uneducated, wildguessworklike opinion, , ))

[Q] Will the Nook ever get a..

..fully working Honeycomb? What do you think? Is a fully working Honecomb ROM possible? May it be 3.0 or 3.1 with all those nice honeycomb-native-apps working?

fattymcdirty said:
..fully working Honeycomb? What do you think? Is a fully working Honecomb ROM possible? May it be 3.0 or 3.1 with all those nice honeycomb-native-apps working?
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Ha? We have two out already and only zoom has it out really...for the new version. Everybody is working with the prerelease sdk. Those in the development section ARE honeycomb and it cannot yet be full driver ready till the release of source or until new release gets ported over. If you mean from Barnes and noble, I do not know. I am running leaked transformer version and it is smooth as it can be.

life64x said:
I am running leaked transformer version and it is smooth as it can be.
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Which one is that? I thought that all those Honeycomb images out yet for the Nook aren't smooth at all and have compatibility issues with many apps. And The tablet versions from some apps (like GMail) aren't even working...

fattymcdirty said:
Which one is that? I thought that all those Honeycomb images out yet for the Nook aren't smooth at all and have compatibility issues with many apps. And The tablet versions from some apps (like GMail) aren't even working...
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I forgot to mention it is on my transformer...not nook I was running leaked 3.1. I found that both of the nook honeycombs where semi solid with for me just to test honeycomb. I knew off the bat they are pre-production HC and I treated them as such. Cm 7 for nook is solid and been very content with it. The reason why a lot of apps have fc is the simple fact there was really no production sdk for development till recently. And how do you develop when you dont have the right environment. I want honeycomb bad...but if it is not there, it is not there...what I want is the new kor-el chip tablet...but I gotta wait till end of year for that. For now, honeycomb is just a toy on the nook and I would not really depend on it...that is my opinion, there are others whose it daily and more power to them. It will take a developer to port it for the nook most likely and that will be off in the near, medium or far future...I do not know.

I need a solid rom for a friends phone

Can anyone recommend a solid rom? I installed a froyo rom about 10 months ago on a friends hero.. he has been getting lots of daily random reboots.. other than those he likes it. I'm looking for a solid rom.. don't care if it's froyo or gb.. just something that works well.. a rom that's been around for a while possibly. I've been installing roms on my Evo 4g and galaxy s 4g.. but don't have experience with hero roms..

probably cyanogenmod. If you want sense UI stock is probably the way to go, because its the most stable. Personally the most stable custom sense rom I've used was fresh hero 2.4. I think it was android 2.1. Now if you dont mind not having sense then I sugest Cyanogenmod it is currently at stable release of 7.0.3 android 2.3 Gingerbread. I have looked around and tried many roms but im slow about how to install things and have issues with most roms, so I always end up back at Cyanogenmod. Hope this helps

the truth is everyone is going to say something different,there are going to be issues on every rom some very minor and some big it all depends my only suggestion is to install a coouple different roms like aoscmod hero deck and cm7 and a stock sprint rom then make back ups of them so he can test them out and easily switch back to the one he likes best.

Bierce22 said:
the truth is everyone is going to say something different,there are going to be issues on every rom some very minor and some big it all depends my only suggestion is to install a coouple different roms like aoscmod hero deck and cm7 and a stock sprint rom then make back ups of them so he can test them out and easily switch back to the one he likes best.
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He's absolutely right about preference and different ppl but,
In the little time I've had with my hero... I've tried all of the roms available, and since OMFG has fixed the wifi problem I'm using their latest ... Smooth fast and no fc for me
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Bierce22 said:
the truth is everyone is going to say something different,there are going to be issues on every rom some very minor and some big it all depends my only suggestion is to install a coouple different roms like aoscmod hero deck and cm7 and a stock sprint rom then make back ups of them so he can test them out and easily switch back to the one he likes best.
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@OP.....Quoted above is the best answer to this question. Bierce22 nailed it. A rom/setup that runs perfect for me is in no way relevant to how it's going to work on your friends phone. There are just too many variables between phones and between people's preferences & needs.

Hmm
I would recommend Cynogenmod 7 stable release.
Everything works, No reboots (In my experience) Super stable
and most important of all very smooth.
Just use Launcher pro (free version from market) or
the original launcher (see below for link) which comes with
GB because ADW is known for giving people force close problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933517

thanks for the heads up guys.. I ended up putting the cm7/gb rom on it.. and so far so good. Runs pretty darn good.

Your random daily reboots could be from having your CPU speed set too high. Currently I'm building CM7 from source, but aosp is my other preference for stability, performance, etc. But as others above me said, each to their own. Find one that suits your friend best.
Sent from my Hero that never dies! ;D

best rom??

Hi I am new to Xoom I have the wifi version and was wondering if you guys could tell me of the best from you have used? I'm looking for speed, display tweaks and customization ease. I hope you can help thanks

malcovitch said:
Hi I am new to Xoom I have the wifi version and was wondering if you guys could tell me of the best from you have used? I'm looking for speed, display tweaks and customization ease. I hope you can help thanks
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Every person is different, try them all.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

bwcorvus said:
Every person is different, try them all.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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While I agree with corvus, not all of us have a ton of time to flash a ****load of ROMs. I love to play with my Xoom, but I also have a life (work, school, cat, girlfriend. and the last two get jealous if i play with my xoom more than them). But anyway. If you wanna choose a good ROM, read their respective forums. I can tell you the two oldest (read:most time invested) dev's here for the Xoom are Tiamat (TeamEOS) and Team Rogue. From what I've learned in my time at this forum (Ive had my Xoom since they came out), they seem to have the most experience with Xoom-specific problems. I'm presonally on Steady's CM9 Kang. It's important to note that he's now the official maintainer for the Xoom branch of CM9. TeamEOS has done great work, and it should be fun to play around with their Cornerstone builds. I haven't messed with them, so I can't speak to its efficacy.
I've also noticed that since the release of the Galaxy Nexus, the ROM scene here has seen a large growth as of late. I can't speak to the quality of these "bleed-thru" ROMs, but I'm sure they're fine. Seems kinda reverse-engineered to work on our Xooms though. I'm no expert!
TLDR: Try CM9! It should have a bunch of mods and go-fast pretties. If you don't like it, try out TeamEOS offerings. Donate to whichever you find suits your needs best.

Another 'best of'...
It all depends on what you want. If its glitz with additional functionality - team eos or cm9 kang.
I personally use Razorblades AOSP build. Its straightforward - no glitches - overclockable if you desire, and found it had no visual glitches or funky sleep issues. No glitz - but I want a ROM that provides a stockish experience with additional features that all come together well.
Bugless Beast is fantastic too. I just prefer a more stockish tablet experience.

I used CM9 the day it came out but recently switched to CNA. I vote CNA for sure, very reliable and customizable.

malcovitch said:
Hi I am new to Xoom I have the wifi version and was wondering if you guys could tell me of the best from you have used? I'm looking for speed, display tweaks and customization ease. I hope you can help thanks
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I'm happy as can be with EOS wingray nightlies...I'm on build #84 and it's super stable and functional. I oc to 1.6 ghz without a glitch. I've played with Cornerstone, but actually prefer plain EOS ICS and use Overskreen and Stickit for that same multitasking experience...just less buggy and demanding.

As an developer I prefer Team Rouges (unofficial) CM9 Release.
You have ADB in the developer settings and many more handy options.
Be careful on the WIFi-only (Wingray) Release. Since 15/03 The ROM crashes when you don't have a sd-card in. This is a serious problem. But the ROM is great!!!
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It crashes every time when the tablet goes into standby mode AND no SD-card is in.

Eos is the bestest packing the most winz. I'm not biased or anything. Really.

I have EOS, CM9 and AOKP. I found the best is AOKP, currently running AOKP Milestone 4. If you are interested go to http://www.forum.aokp.co
Good luck.

Killed message too cynic...

bigrushdog said:
Eos is the bestest packing the most winz. I'm not biased or anything. Really.
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If u truly want the best rom out there for thr xoom go with either the 1.0.0 from EOS or the EOS nightlies hands down

I know my name doesn't carry much clout in here, but having gone through EOS 1.0.0 / Unofficial CM9 / Codename Android 1.5.5 in the past month I really like the newest Codename Android.
Mostly waiting for there to be an official CM9 release. Then I'll jump ship to that.
Of course I run all my roms with Team Tiamats AOSP 3.0.5 kernel (w/ GPU OC)
My Xoom runs beautifully.

I have wifi only xoom and have used team eos with overclocked gpu. Its very stable no only had 2 crash's since i'v had it and that was the browser so would not put it down to the firmware at all all the hardware is supported fine and works well. I think eos is clean and tidy and with dev tools zips you'll have alot to play with.

i've testet all roms out there...
the best release would be eos with trebuchet from cm9,
or rouges cm9 with tiamat kernel...

I also just can from EOS 1.0 to Codename Android 1.5.5 and like it a lot. Both are great roms, but I just like the customization of Codename a little better.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

theretro said:
I have wifi only xoom and have used team eos with overclocked gpu. Its very stable no only had 2 crash's since i'v had it and that was the browser so would not put it down to the firmware at all all the hardware is supported fine and works well. I think eos is clean and tidy and with dev tools zips you'll have alot to play with.
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Agreed... I am using TeamEOS 89 and Cornerstone 13... By far the best combination possible and very stable... They nightlies have been very impressive from the get go... Thanks TeamEOS!!!!!!

Am I missing something here? How can you be using both 89 and cornerstone 13? Its one or the other isn't it as they are both roms
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

After using almost all the ROMs I keep coming back to EOS. Its the only one in which I have not ran into any issues. Personally it suits my needs of speed + always updated

Peter Alfonso's "Bugless Beast" has worked well for me, but it appears the domain he used for hosting has expired and there's no way to access the latest builds.

rlmesq said:
Peter Alfonso's "Bugless Beast" has worked well for me, but it appears the domain he used for hosting has expired and there's no way to access the latest builds.
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Love the bugless beast rom. I've tried most of the others and came back to bugless because it is so reliable. And the USB extension is working without an app. Concerning the bugless nightly downloads, all you have to do is stroll down until you see wingray downloads and click-on.