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4G in the Bay Area (California)

For those of you Bay Area kids that are jonesing as hard as I am for our 4G service, I did some testing while at work in Palo Alto today (where Clear has rolled out a special developer pocket of 4G service). I took some screenshots with the EVO 4G as my test device - and published a little write-up on my blog.
Give it a read.
http://dylandersen.me/post/633300884/4g-in-the-bay-area-how-fast-is-it-really

Thanks for posting this.
I am from Santa Clara and i did notice how fast 4G can be.
However i did notice something with my 4G behavior and i was wondering if you noticed the same.
If i connect to 4G and the phone is idle (i.e. not using any app that requires data usage) the connection will drop and enter an endless reconnect loop where when it reconnects it will stay connected for 20 sec and drop again.
To avoid this i need to open an app that uses data (i.e. listen to internet radio) and then the connection will be stable.
Have you noticed this behavior as well?

the article you linked said:
But, as obnoxious as that may seem, it’s actually quite understanding when you hold this device in your hand. AND, what a lot of the critics (Slashgear, Engadget, Gizmodo, Phonedog, Pocketnow - the list of naysayerse goes on) are forgetting to mention amidst their insane iPhone-fanboy frenzy, is that the iPhone itself had a $10 plan upcharge when switching from the original (2G) iPhone to the iPhone 3G. AT&T said it was because of the 3G connection.
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I don't care enough to prove you wrong about every site you listed but Droiddog (the android section of Phonedog) is, in my opinion, the best Android news and review site on the web. You're basically saying the the entire Internet thinks Apple can do no wrong and that's just wrong.
Engadget's iPad review said:
At this point we've run the full spectrum on iPad opinion. It should be clear that there are aspects of this device which we love, and others which we clearly do not.
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But, as obnoxious as that may seem, it’s actually quite understanding when you hold this device in your hand. AND, what a lot of the critics (Slashgea
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I don't care enough to prove you wrong about every site you listed but Droiddog (the android section of Phonedog) is, in my opinion, the best Android news and review site on the web. You're basically saying the the entire Internet thinks Apple can do no wrong and that's just wrong.
At this point we've run the full spectrum on iPad opinion. It should be clear that there are aspects of this device which we love, and others which we clearly do not.
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Droiddog does a good job at coverage but I was not speaking about John, mainly Noah who is so in love with the iPhone it hurts.
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Thanks for posting this.
I am from Santa Clara and i did notice how fast 4G can be.
However i did notice something with my 4G behavior and i was wondering if you noticed the same.
If i connect to 4G and the phone is idle (i.e. not using any app that requires data usage) the connection will drop and enter an endless reconnect loop where when it reconnects it will stay connected for 20 sec and drop again.
To avoid this i need to open an app that uses data (i.e. listen to internet radio) and then the connection will be stable.
Have you noticed this behavior as well?
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I noticed a bit of this, but I think its mainly because the network is in its infancy and doesnt know how to handle idleness very well. At least you know of a work around.
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Great read bro.
My fam lives up north. I figure its time for another run to the stockton , pittsburgh ,santa clara and fairfield area.
Can't wait!

Nice read. I live in Vallejo and one day after I received my Evo I too can drive to PA area for some 4G goodness!!! I have no regret ever now leaving At&t expensive monthly family plan (with corporate discounts) to Sprint Everything Family Data plan of $103 a month for two lines. Boy I'm going to enjoy this, BTW this Sprint Hero I have to hold me off until the Evo release is my first Android phone (always been on Win Mobile). Already having tons of fun with the 1.5 stock on the Hero and let alone the Evo with soon to be the latest Android I am super super pumped up. Hurry hurry up June 4th!!! LOL

Ipod Speed test with Hero CDMA wifi tether

I have a palm pre right now, and there is a bug between the ipod and my pre, it wont let me get any faster speeds than about 100 kbps. Youtube is out of the question. I'm on my 7th pre and thinking about switching to the hero, hoping that it can wifi tether full speeds.
Can anyone give me any info on tethering apple products to the htc hero?

counterbond said:
I have a palm pre right now, and there is a bug between the ipod and my pre, it wont let me get any faster speeds than about 100 kbps. Youtube is out of the question. I'm on my 7th pre and thinking about switching to the hero, hoping that it can wifi tether full speeds.
Can anyone give me any info on tethering apple products to the htc hero?
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The real question is, is it 100kbps, or 100kBps, because there is a very big difference. But yeah, as far as 3G goes, I've never gotten more then 150kBps.

I use mine daily,the hero is a nice upgrade from the pre...I had 5,nice o.s. crappy hardware
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Also there's a hack that increases the pre download speeds, can't remember what its called but you could search precentral for it
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I tether my hero to my netbook almost daily. I haven't ever had an issue with YouTube videos or anything else unless i was in a poor service area. At 360p the Videos load faster than it plays.
Using Tether for Root users I get about 1.3 mbps running Speedtest.net through my netbook while tethered. Its really nice. Thanks to all the work the Devs have done of course.
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PlayOn Streams Netflix, Hulu to Android

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/PlayON-Netflix-Hulu-Plus-Froyo-video-streaming,news-10188.html
thats right !

Cool dude, thanks for the heads up. Its a little pricey but I'm checking out the free trial now. This will work until Netflix gets their **** together and releases an app.

I'm not diggin the way this program operates, seems a bit convaluted. Patiently awaiting the arrival of a Netflix app

TJBunch1228 said:
Cool dude, thanks for the heads up. Its a little pricey but I'm checking out the free trial now. This will work until Netflix gets their **** together and releases an app.
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Unfortunately netflix app won't work due to hardware limitations of the snapdragon. But newer snap dragon processors will work. This app makes it possible for us unless Qualcomm is lieing about the hardware limitation.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/qualcomm-promises-netflix-streaming-support-on-future-android-d/

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Unfortunately netflix app won't work due to hardware limitations of the snapdragon. But newer snap dragon processors will work. This app makes it possible for us unless Qualcomm is lieing about the hardware limitation.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/qualcomm-promises-netflix-streaming-support-on-future-android-d/
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Well that takes some wind out of my sails..

What about non snapdragon based system on chips?
I am fascinated and captivated by the vibrant screen on my epic galaxy s.

Just flashed bionix-v today on my vibrant. I was using bionix fusion 1.2 before and that was great, but so far this rom is amazing and has FROYO!!!
I recently cancelled my cable tv and have replaced it with Netflix and PlayOn. What's even better is that PlayOn streams Netflix, Hulu, my Amazon VOD, and all the other great channels and plugins right to my phone now from anywhere!
I didn't buy PlayOn right away because of the price, but signed up for their newsletter and jumped on a deal for 1 free month and $20 for the first year and then just $20 every year after that.
Can you tell i'm just a little excited?

Unimpressed. All this does is stream from those websites to your PC which then streams to your phone. Yawn. I can already do this with RDP/PC and access all websites that can stream to my PC.
Would be great if it streamed direct to phone via WIFI/3G.

BALivindream said:
Just flashed bionix-v today on my vibrant. I was using bionix fusion 1.2 before and that was great, but so far this rom is amazing and has FROYO!!!
I recently cancelled my cable tv and have replaced it with Netflix and PlayOn. What's even better is that PlayOn streams Netflix, Hulu, my Amazon VOD, and all the other great channels and plugins right to my phone now from anywhere!
I didn't buy PlayOn right away because of the price, but signed up for their newsletter and jumped on a deal for 1 free month and $20 for the first year and then just $20 every year after that.
Can you tell i'm just a little excited?
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Watch out for the data throttle cap... it'll get ya doin that and you'll be back on edge service at 56k in no time and NOTHING will load

jrathbun27 said:
Watch out for the data throttle cap... it'll get ya doin that and you'll be back on edge service at 56k in no time and NOTHING will load
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Thanks for the heads up. I wasn't up to date on the data cap. Can't wait until cell phone companies and ISPs merge to meet the demands that will inevitably be plaguing them so that they can better fulfill the needs of their media hungry customers.

MLB.tv: No Streaming for Epic 4G

Well - thank you Samsung.
MLB.tv updated the AtBat2011 app today to include live streaming on Android devices. Woohoo, right?
Well, not so much. Because Samsung has delayed the official FroYo release for the Epic, the Evo is the only Sprint Device that is supported for live video streaming. Of course, I'm sure my ACS FrozenROM could handle the requirements, but because the Epic isn't officially supported the video option doesn't even show up.
I doubt there are any tricks to spoof device ID, but if anybody has any ideas, that would be great.
Otherwise, I just have one more reason not to buy another Samsung device again. Or, more properly, one more reason to be upset about the FroYo release (or lack thereof).
Here's the link to the app: https://market.android.com/details?...android.gameday.atbat2011.full&feature=banner

I feel your pain on this one. I got the update this morning and was psyched about it. But I was quickly let down when I notice my Epic wouldn't work!!

Thanks for this update. I almost bought it yesterday, then I saw that MLB partnered up with Apple for a free month trial for iPhone users. Hoping for the same Android deal, I see that it's wrought with problems still and not ready for primetime.

The Nexus S is supported, so is there a way to spoof the Epic as a Nexus S? I thought I remember seeing somewhere that one of the ROMs was using a modified market using a Nexus S identifier. Could the same approach be used here?

LIVE GAMES!? GET THIS TO WORK, NOW!!!! I always loved getting the radio feeds but if I can get the actual games, I'd freak the hell out...

speaking of that...when i goto mlb.com on a winmo device..gameday doesnt drop down anymore???? i havent found a way for gameday to come up on the epic, if there is one. but i also would love to listen to the games, anyway to do this on the epic??

Yea, the MLB app. It's $14 but well worth it if you use it as much as I do. I'm dying for live stream of games.

tonyp23 said:
The Nexus S is supported, so is there a way to spoof the Epic as a Nexus S? I thought I remember seeing somewhere that one of the ROMs was using a modified market using a Nexus S identifier. Could the same approach be used here?
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Bonsai was/is? Using the Nexus S keys so we could get protected apps from the market. I thought everybody here was doing the same on the leaked froyo's. Give Randy _T or Mammon a pm.
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T-980 said:
Yea, the MLB app. It's $14 but well worth it if you use it as much as I do. I'm dying for live stream of games.
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ok..good lookin out..i thot that app was just for streaming video clips...but if the radio broadcasts are also avail..i check it out

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Bonsai was/is? Using the Nexus S keys so we could get protected apps from the market. I thought everybody here was doing the same on the leaked froyo's. Give Randy _T or Mammon a pm.
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Not without some kind of tweak it appears, I've got the MLB11 App and I'm on Bonsai and don't see any live video options so it seems to still be reading it as an Epic.

When I started using the CM7 alpha, I got an email from google thanking me for my nexus purhase...

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Not without some kind of tweak it appears, I've got the MLB11 App and I'm on Bonsai and don't see any live video options so it seems to still be reading it as an Epic.
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I think it was only being done on the DK28 leak froyo's. No reason to do it now that EC05 is out.
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If you can afford it, get Slingbox. They run from $150 to $250... The Solo (the lesser priced one- beware) has some issue with capacitors.. Anything that you can get on your TV can easily be forwarded to your device. I have an Epic, as well. Slingbox forwards me my MLB account (from Roku)... I also get Netflix, Hulu Plus, and lots of other stuff.. music YouTube, International News, etc. If I have a net connection, I can watch and listen to anything on my TV or Roku
To afford all this, I cut my Uverse account back to basic at $19 a month plus box rental. I was spending $90 a month prior to hooking up Roku and Slingbox. One time investment only for Slingbox and Roku. You will have to fork out the $29 for the Slingbox Mobile for Android app to accomplish this. It includes clever remote control codes to manipulate your TV and other hardware at home.
MLB looks fabulous on Roku this year. Last year, it was problematic. This year, great.
You'll be watching the World Series and all the playoff games without forking out any more money. It's a great way to go. Im saving a lot of money. I use it off and on when work is slow.. watch a couple innings, etc.. When we travel, I use it.. .I also use the Sling software on my laptop.

So if live radio working? I want this app.
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The Root said:
So if live radio working? I want this app.
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Yes, live radio works.

On on bonsai too and I do t have any options to watch games either. Its still an awesome app
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!

mikey80021 said:
When I started using the CM7 alpha, I got an email from google thanking me for my nexus purhase...
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So I went ahead and installed CM7 Alpha 1 to see if that works, but no such luck. When I go to my account on the market (web version) it shows the phone as a Samsung SPH-D700 under Model. When I'm on another ROM it shows up as just SPH-D700 and the manufacturer is the same in both cases (Samsung)

Could someone please drop MLB Android support a email and ask them why our phone isn't supported?

shook187 said:
Could someone please drop MLB Android support a email and ask them why our phone isn't supported?
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I did. They emailed and said they're researching it. Quick turnaround on the response, too.
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The Root said:
I did. They emailed and said they're researching it. Quick turnaround on the response, too.
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Great!!! Keep us updated.

[Q] Questions about Droid X on Metro PCS

I know this question has been asked plenty of times before but I have some questions that I just cannot get a straight answer to. XDA came through for me with my HD2 and I hope I can get some guideance again.
Backstory....I got my HD2 all androided up with 2.2, ran up to my local "Simple Mobile" Store (Im sure most of you know, simple mobile is pretty much T-Mobile in disguise) and I got my phone activated. Then to smah my dreams, I find out I cant get signal at all within 10miles of my house. Although the phone is amazing when it does have signal.
So now, Im Looking into going back to MetroPCS because I have full signal with them every where I go, and Im looking at the Droid-X as my next phone porting Victim. However I cannot seem to find one solid guide on getting everything working properly. Some guides say everything but apps work, some say apps work but no mms, Is there one rock solid guide out there that will cover all aspects? Obviously I would like my phone to act just as it would on VZW, or as close as I can get. Secondly, Will I beable to get 3G or not? Im pretty sure MetroPCS does not have 3G(Atleast in Daytona Beach, FL), but some people keep saying they do. Lastly, Since im pretty sure that the answer to the last question will be a big fat NO, what kinds of internet speeds can I expect with Metro's network? Will apps like Pandora and Youtube Work? If so I know they will be slow, but just how slow are we talking?
Also, as a side question, are there any 4G LTE phones that can be ported over from verizon yet? Metro doesnt have the best selection of phones.
Thank you to anyone who can shed some light on this for me. Im definately not a noob, but I'm sure as hell no expert either.
Sorry for being so wordy with my question
Edit: Also I have a friend willing to sell me a EVO for $100, Is it possible to get that phone working aswell, apps and all?

for droid x:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...-x-and-get-apps-mms-internet-talk-tex-working
for evo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704161
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796257
just got these from a quick google search. there are lots of other guides

I have actually Seen the Guide for the droid X, and the first one you posted for the EVO. However I haven't see the second EVO guide that you posted, so thank you for that one, that answered the EVO question.
My only other question is; What (if any) apps Will not function on metropcs? I do not live in a EVDO market so I wont have 3G. Will apps like Pandora, Youtube, and google maps work? and if they do what kind of experiences have peole had with them, are they tolerable, or are they so slow that their barely usable?

relik1989 said:
I have actually Seen the Guide for the droid X, and the first one you posted for the EVO. However I haven't see the second EVO guide that you posted, so thank you for that one, that answered the EVO question.
My only other question is; What (if any) apps Will not function on metropcs? I do not live in a EVDO market so I wont have 3G. Will apps like Pandora, Youtube, and google maps work? and if they do what kind of experiences have peole had with them, are they tolerable, or are they so slow that their barely usable?
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They should work, however without 3g, apps like pandora and youtube will take forever to load

Jmoney47 said:
They should work, however without 3g, apps like pandora and youtube will take forever to load
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Do you think it will even be worth it?

While I myself am a total VZW Fanboy, if you have constant access to WiFi (college campus), it wouldn't be so bad.
Personally, the hassle isn't worth it for me and I'd rather pay the premium for a reliable network, but for others, maybe not .

Interestingly enough I am seriously considering going to VZW. However I know they are going to require a deposit from me, but it's almost worth it for me. On a side note, this is for me and my wife, so if i do end up biting the bullet and going with VZW do you know if it would be one deposit for the whole account, or one deposit per line? ATT wanted $500 per line.
But in the mean time im still stuck with metro, and I have 25Mb/s internet at my house so im covers there, but unfortunately no WiFi at work.

I am currently using droid x on metro. With it upgraded to leaked gingerbread everything works except picture messages which can work but is a little buggy. You can follow the guid at Howard forums for flashing. You do not need U2LN or AUTOSTAT files at all with gingerbread and since metro dos not use a proxy anymore....
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dzhowandai said:
I am currently using droid x on metro. With it upgraded to leaked gingerbread everything works except picture messages which can work but is a little buggy. You can follow the guid at Howard forums for flashing. You do not need U2LN or AUTOSTAT files at all with gingerbread and since metro dos not use a proxy anymore....
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what kind of data speeds are you getting?
i was unaware i wasnt going to be able to get 3g when i had my droid x flashed to metro.

Just 1x 130 up and mid. 200 down...
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Just 1x 130 up and mid. 200 down...
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damn...LOL this sucks for me. i get 6k download speeds in my area in tampa.
guess its time to find a new phone.
having a smartphone with basically no internet access is pointless for me:/
FAIL.