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[Q] Media Hub V. ?????

Ok. So the media hub is out. Looks like you can rent and/or own movies depending on title. The renting is 2.99. I've found own for 9.99 and 12.99. I'm a little worried about paying DVD prices (or somewhat less for some titles) and not getting the DVD, or getting the ability to transfer to another viewing device, ie. dvd, computer. Anyone know what the lowdown is on transfers, etc? I know I've had a hard time trying to find a movie that I can actually put on this phone via dvd ripping from my own dvd library (if that's even legal) or for download from any legal source online. At least the media hub has that going for it.
Anyone know if there are other avenues to actually use the awesome power of this device to watch movies in my palm? Is Media Hub better than?
Ps. I think it is funny that Forrest Gump is listed as comedy. Nice job classifying that one guys.

it still says coming soon for me :/
*edit* oh nevermind i see, its a system update to get it. XD
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javahead76 said:
Ps. I think it is funny that Forrest Gump is listed as comedy. Nice job classifying that one guys.
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I thought it was funny....

Anyone guess what my favorite part of Forrest Gump is?
hint: look at my avatar

When will we get Avatar? I thought it was suppose to come with all Galaxy S phones.
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ggoldfingerd said:
When will we get Avatar? I thought it was suppose to come with all Galaxy S phones.
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Nope, just Vibrant as far as I can tell.

Does it bill to your Sprint bill or is there separate payment information?

probably have to stop by the store so they can take a melon baller to your seat cushion.

I'm not really sure how the payment works. I exchanged my phone today due to the back button issue. Now I haven't received the new update yet.

Media hub payments
Ok. So I broke down and bought the latest star trek. Basically, you enter your credit card information into Media Hub the app stores it there (actually, I think it stores it on Samsung's server). I don't think there are any alternatives. Now, based on the current download rate and percentage, I should be able to watch it sometime next week.

I LOL'ed
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javahead76 said:
Now, based on the current download rate and percentage, I should be able to watch it sometime next week.
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3G? 4G? Wifi? On 4G, the previews always played for me instantly. Even the 2 and a half minute trailers.

I watched a few previews over 4g. I have to admit the video quality was excellent and playback smooth. This might be good for an occasional rental, but once netflix comes out for Android they can kiss this goodbye.
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download speed and AllShare
Well it looks like there is no AllShare support. Can't push this thing to my TV (actually PS3) for viewing. The movie doesn't show up in the AllShare list. I'm not surprised I guess, just disappointed. My guess is that the movie is not being stored in any meaningful format so AllShare couldn't read it if it wanted to. Of course, there could be a way around or some setting I'm missing. I don't think it's a setting at this point though. Media Hub has no settings anywhere that I can find.
The video quality is pretty awesome, no skips, studders, sloops, woops, or whillips. The sounds wasn't *bad*. It's a decent movie viewing experience - even for a big screen action blockbuster. Would be awesome during a long flight, or similar, without having to drag along extra electronics.
However, combined with there currently being no mini-usb to hdmi cable means no support to watch Media Hub movies on a bigger screen. Looks like I'm back to looking for another solution to watching movies on my phone. 12 bucks isn't really a good investment vs. the actual DVD/Blueray (3 dollars more on Amazon). If I was wealthier, maybe. I think this means I won't be using Media Hub, except for the one movie I already paid for.
About the download speed:
I didn't bother trying to watch it before the download was finished so I don't know if that is possible. I think it was a 1-2 hour download but I didn't keep track, maybe I could have started it sooner. Not to bad I guess (over wifi). I couldn't imagine doing this over 3g...definitely an overnight thing.

Netflix on Android

Read an article saying the Netflix app will only be coming to new phones with the app pre- installed. Meaning we won't be able to go to the Market and d/l the app. Is this true? Are there any ways around this? I was really looking forward to my Instant queue on my Inc.

Our processors aren't made for it.. The new snapdragon is gonna be different and be able to meet Netflix requirements.
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They said the Eris couldn't handle froyo. Now it has gingerbread. I wouldn't be surprised if someone made it work for the dinc
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Thats such bs, although im sure once its available there will be hacked version
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I wouldn't want to watch netflix on my phone anyways. Honestly, shouldn't you be paying attention to the world around you?

Smokeey said:
I wouldn't want to watch netflix on my phone anyways. Honestly, shouldn't you be paying attention to the world around you?
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Its funny u say that i saw a girl walking thru the mall here texting, she tripped and fell into a big fountain face first lol... anyways i would like to, i take a lot of trips with the wife and sometimes its just boring sitting in the car or hotel room
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I didn't read anything about it only coming preinstalled... I only got that it would only work with snapdragon processors due to some security system that they have... netflix would be dumb not to release an app for all phones considering that the best part of android is that we have options on what phone we want to use... if this is the case then the HTC tablet will steal the market from the xoom since its not a snapdragon

pete_kowalski83 said:
Its funny u say that i saw a girl walking thru the mall here texting, she tripped and fell into a big fountain face first lol... anyways i would like to, i take a lot of trips with the wife and sometimes its just boring sitting in the car or hotel room
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Was that the one that became a YouTube sensation? She now wants to sue the mall and security guards for laughing.

As a recent Netflix convert, I went searching a few days ago for a Netflix app. I figured there had to be one considering the popularity of Netflix, but there was NOTHING
I can't believe there is no official Netflix app, not even one to manage your queue, browse what's available, or even to control Watch Instantly on a 3rd party player (Boxee, PS3, etc). Big disappointment

Do u really think im gonna be walking and watching a movie? Cmon man. Anyone who has netflix and an android phone wants the app. Not only to watch movies and shows but to update our queue as well. This isnt about walking and watching, its about being able to do everything with our Inc.

TokedUp said:
Do u really think im gonna be walking and watching a movie? Cmon man. Anyone who has netflix and an android phone wants the app. Not only to watch movies and shows but to update our queue as well. This isnt about walking and watching, its about being able to do everything with our Inc.
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I completely agree.
Its ok though b/c Netflix will soon put the app out there for those new phones the new snapdragon processors and then all those wonderful hackers we have in the Android community will come up with something for the rest of us.

coffeedragon said:
As a recent Netflix convert, I went searching a few days ago for a Netflix app. I figured there had to be one considering the popularity of Netflix, but there was NOTHING
I can't believe there is no official Netflix app, not even one to manage your queue, browse what's available, or even to control Watch Instantly on a 3rd party player (Boxee, PS3, etc). Big disappointment
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+1. I was really looking forward to managing my queue from my phone...

m1rked said:
+1. I was really looking forward to managing my queue from my phone...
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You can still manage your queue with your web browser, but I agree an official app would be better.

I know its a crappy kind of workaround, but I have PlayOn installed on my server at home witch then have the PlayOn app on my Inc and it can stream my Netflix to my phone wherever I am. I am bummed there is no official Netflix app, but there are a few to do your queue.

The bad thing about it is I used to have a Netflix app for my HTC Vogue. I could manage my account and all my queues. I really can't belive that Netflix can't come out with at least a basic app for Android.

Im hoping one of our genius devs come up with something for our rooted Incs. Maybe theres a way around the security so the app can be ported to us. Heres to wishful thinking!

Devildog8791 said:
The bad thing about it is I used to have a Netflix app for my HTC Vogue. I could manage my account and all my queues. I really can't belive that Netflix can't come out with at least a basic app for Android.
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There are tons of apps that will handle your queue. Movies is one that has a ton of uses AND allows you to manage your queue
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Unfortunately, the DINC will likely never see a working version of the Netflix app
Netflix has strict DRM requirements and, as of right now, only the brand new generation of Snapdragons (like the one in the upcoming HTC Thunderbolt) will be able to support Netflix since that processor's firmware contains the latest DRM keys. The DINC's processor does not contain the DRM keys it needs to allow the app to function
Normally software can be hacked to "get around" these types of requirements, but apparently the devs tried and failed to get it to work and eventually all but gave up on the project and will now only focus on porting the app to newer phones with the newer Snapdragon chips:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936789

biff6789 said:
Unfortunately, the DINC will likely never see a working version of the Netflix app
Netflix has strict DRM requirements and, as of right now, only the brand new generation of Snapdragons (like the one in the upcoming HTC Thunderbolt) will be able to support Netflix since that processor's firmware contains the latest DRM keys. The DINC's processor does not contain the DRM keys it needs to allow the app to function
Normally software can be hacked to "get around" these types of requirements, but apparently the devs tried and failed to get it to work and eventually all but gave up on the project and will now only focus on porting the app to newer phones with the newer Snapdragon chips:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936789
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Looks grim, but I hold out hope that some enterprising developer will find a way to extract the DRM keys needed to get the app working.

No Movies for Rooted XOOMs?? Devs unite!

Being that this dev community is the absolute best, I have to bring this to light.
Google Movie Support has just informed me that Google Movies will not work for rooted XOOMs. This just won't fly.
Is there anyone out there working on a fix or workaround for this?
I'd love root. I love movies. We shouldn't have to choose between the two.

gdogmcstyles said:
Being that this dev community is the absolute best, I have to bring this to light.
Google Movie Support has just informed me that Google Movies will not work for rooted XOOMs. This just won't fly.
Is there anyone out there working on a fix or workaround for this?
I'd love root. I love movies. We shouldn't have to choose between the two.
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I feel ya bro, and I'm pretty sure the devs are already looking into it. Since it is a DRM authorization issue, it is probably going to be a pretty good hack to get around it.

I'm confused by 2 things on this topic:
1) why does it matter if its rooted or not?
I would assume the answers is because root would allow us some magical privledge of copying a cache and possibly extracting video and then redistributing.
2) how the frig can it tell?
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that is why i cannot watch green hornet. i rented it to see how it would look on the xoom and it will not play

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2) how the frig can it tell?
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My guess is either one of: (1) checking for the ro.secure property being set, or (2) doing something "rootable", like being able to read a certain file/directory, etc.
If in the former case, I don't have an idea of what to do that wouldn't require the HC source, but in the case of the latter, it'd be relatively easy to ... wait- don't let me help El Goog out. It's not rocket science (think rootkit, but in reverse).

Well instead of listening I tried it as well with The Green Hornet and couldn't download it. Kept getting error but these developers will come up with the answers they have been nothing short of amazing when it comes to the Moto Xoom
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kcrudup said:
My guess is either one of: (1) checking for the ro.secure property being set, or (2) doing something "rootable", like being able to read a certain file/directory, etc.
If in the former case, I don't have an idea of what to do that wouldn't require the HC source, but in the case of the latter, it'd be relatively easy to ... wait- don't let me help El Goog out. It's not rocket science (think rootkit, but in reverse).
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Assuming scenario 2, wouldn't Super User prompt for permissions? I would think its likely.
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This is the same with the blockbuster app on the Atrix. I can set SU to block requests from the app, but as long as I'm running rooted, it refuses to play (and tells you when you launch the app).
I don't understand the difference between this and running Itunes or Netflix on a "rooted" (admin capable) PC. Why is the phone different?

This is not development. Moved to general.

theimpaler747 said:
This is not development. Moved to general.
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Your forum, you run it your way, just a question.
With all due respect, couldn't OP remain if modified to [REQUEST] since it's a dev request? General is so filled with crap I think this may get lost. :/

bishop72 said:
that is why i cannot watch green hornet. i rented it to see how it would look on the xoom and it will not play
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So did you still get charged for it? The wifi version won't even get the movies for awhile. I don't know why Google doesn't have it ready for both.

It isn't very surprising to hear. None of the major studios will allow media to be downloaded without some form of restrictive DRM and root access probably violates their policies.

rebill said:
So did you still get charged for it? The wifi version won't even get the movies for awhile. I don't know why Google doesn't have it ready for both.
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? I saw the movie link in Web version of Market.

Yeah, you can order/get charged for it but it won't work. Need to contact customer service to get a refund. They told me they'll consider putting in a warning in the future before you buy it.

cur8or said:
Yeah, you can order/get charged for it but it won't work. Need to contact customer service to get a refund. They told me they'll consider putting in a warning in the future before you buy it.
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Would make more sense for it to check if you're rooted before the transaction goes through.

Nice Google, what a great way to pit the development community against you, even though Android would be nothing without us. Sellout.

Strange, I have unlocked and rooted Nexus One and could play any Netflix video in official Netflix app, so DRM works on rooted system. So may be it's problem with something else?

If you order thru your web browser by going to the web based android market and play it thru your web browser it works.

Thanks for the tip on the browser market thing it works
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nbajwill55 said:
Nice Google, what a great way to pit the development community against you, even though Android would be nothing without us. Sellout.
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Lol you're an idiot. It isn't googles fault they had to do this. If you were selling movies and wanted to make some money, would you want them to be distributed for free without your permission? I think not...

Google's new movie rental service is blocked if your device is rooted

"Google announced their service at Google I/O earlier this month, along with their music streaming service. The service allows users to rent movies to their android devices straight from the Android market. As it transpires, Google specifically locks out users of rooted devices for copy protection reasons."
Here's the link if you want to read the rest.
Comments, concerns, gripes?

siirus09 said:
"Google announced their service at Google I/O earlier this month, along with their music streaming service. The service allows users to rent movies to their android devices straight from the Android market. As it transpires, Google specifically locks out users of rooted devices for copy protection reasons."
Here's the link if you want to read the rest.
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thanks for posting this... but this was like yesterday... literally... im pretty sure most people here see other sites like engadget and saw this already... thanks anyway

sounds like they want people to get movies somewhere else...

steviee7 said:
thanks for posting this... but this was like yesterday... literally... im pretty sure most people here see other sites like engadget and saw this already... thanks anyway
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Umm..i didnt. Please dont speak for me. Thank you OP.
This is retarded. Freakin intellectual property. Pirates ruin it for everyone.
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Who cares? Why would you want to watch a movie on a phone when you can watch it on a 42" HDTV? The only reason I would watch a movie on my Epic is if I was cooling my heels in an airport.
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squshy 7 said:
This is retarded. Freakin intellectual property. Movie companies ruin it for everyone.
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FTFY
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muyoso said:
FTFY
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this.
I'm sure there's a way to 'block' the google movie rental service from obtaining root rights (or at least checking)... no ?

neowin.net said:
This is a bit of an unusual move from Google, who normally promote the open nature of Android; many rooted users are likely to feel somewhat irked by this. There's a likely possibility that the movie studios are the ones behind the decision, unwilling to let Google license anything without some form of copy protection in place. Because of this, many legitimate users will feel they're being punished for the sake of preventing something from leaking on the Internet, which in all likelihood will already be there anyway.
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See.. if I were going to pirate a movie and leak it on the internet, I certainly wouldn't pay money to rent it on my android phone, then try and make it watchable on a 60" TV.. bastards... they're so ignorant (the movie companies)... people will sit in a theater w/ a small camera attached to a pocket sized DVR to make bootlegs.. there's also telesync and telecine 'copies' as well.. w/ those, the 'pirate' is attached directly to the projector to grab the video signal but uses a microphone for the audio. These telesync/telecine 'copies' are usually the most desirable in the bootleg world because of the 'improved' video quality vs the camera in a pocket bootlegs. The next best quality is an 'R5' which is DVD quality video because the movie was released overseas (russia or somewhere?) and since the audio isn't in english, someone takes the 'bootleg' audio from a theater and overlays is onto the video... Then there are 'work prints' (stuff that's still WIP ) and DVDrip (that one should be obvious).. there are also 'pirates' that will just get a netflix subscription to mail the DVD's back and forth, ripping them as they receive them, or blockbuster (you can turn those back into your local store if there are any still open)... What I'm getting at is there are MANY ways for pirates to 'steal' movies and I can assure you that making a rip from a phone would be stupid.. it wouldn't net a tolerable viewing experience. The RIAA needs to go see a doctor and have their heads removed from their collective 'puckered starfishes'
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I could not care less about this topic.
1. I would never pay to rent a movie on my cell phone. Free? Sure. Pay ? no way.
2. The second any movie is released on blueray it's already up for download in FULL quality.

muyoso said:
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Lol. Youre half right. I still put the other half on pirates for inciting the movie companies and record labels, thus causing irrational decisions. Hence google music not being debuted in the manner it should have been. But you are right. They do deserve a lot of the blame for not coming up with more creative solutions to their problems compared to all the brute force tactics they've deployed.
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Who cares.. if I really needed to watch a movie on my phone (probably never will), there are a lot of other options
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic 3g

Well you can connect if u have evo to your 42" with HDMI and very u go.
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Devs will edit the apk and remove checks. Or you can deny rights via superuser and it wont see the su binary.
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marcusant said:
Devs will edit the apk and remove checks. Or you can deny rights via superuser and it wont see the su binary.
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That is what I was thinking about.
Couldn't you just deny it in SU, and it would think you don't have root rights?

I promise I will use this about as much as I've been using the Samsung Media Hub.
/That's "not at all"

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Who cares? Why would you want to watch a movie on a phone when you can watch it on a 42" HDTV? The only reason I would watch a movie on my Epic is if I was cooling my heels in an airport.
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Exactly. Just watch Netflix or buy a google TV then its a much better experience. Music streaming I can understand. But renting movies? Blah.
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TV NOW app.

My question here is one I'm not sure on. TV Now is a 6 dollar app on the market.. TV now and tv now lite are available. Before this became a paid app it was previously known as TVShows and the full version that I have was free and did not require payment. Is this a repostable ApK with outgetting in trouble by mods? Requires 2.2 o 2.3 OS to run. Right now this app has access to almost any show that has aired on tv available for u to stream over 3g or 4g. If I can repost...all epic users enjoy. Waitng for green light from a mod.
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I have the paid version and it works great. Multiple servers family guy 9 seasons all eppisodes.

Tbtltdts said:
My question here is one I'm not sure on. TV Now is a 6 dollar app on the market.. TV now and tv now lite are available. Before this became a paid app it was previously known as TVShows and the full version that I have was free and did not require payment. Is this a repostable ApK with outgetting in trouble by mods? Requires 2.2 o 2.3 OS to run. Right now this app has access to almost any show that has aired on tv available for u to stream over 3g or 4g. If I can repost...all epic users enjoy. Waitng for green light from a mod.
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I had purchased the TVShows app a while back and had not used it much, looked in the market and found it missing. Now it has a new name and I can not download the new version. I emailed the developer and ill see what i get...
Are you sure that TV Now is TV Shows? My app shows [email protected] as the previous support.

Tv now is tv shows. I use it on a regular basis. Has csi ncis southpark family guy and tons of others

A lot of the paid movie Alps disappeard. I think cause they were pirated movies. That's my guess. For example watch movies now, movie stream, megaviewer pro.
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silver03wrx said:
Tv now is tv shows. I use it on a regular basis. Has csi ncis southpark family guy and tons of others
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We are the developers of "TV Shows Stream" and "Movie Stream". We are NOT the developers of others applications with similar names. Our developer name is "Loading Home". Google has removed “TV Shows Stream” and “Movie Stream” Applications from android Market. (Several other applications have also been removed from android market on the same day 27th May ) The application will continue working as usual and we will continue offering support for all current customers, but we will not be working on new improvements or updates at this moment. We have contacted google trying to receive further information and asking them how we could modify the app to avoid further problems in android market.
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I paid for both Apps, which I used quite frequently, but with the 2.3 Gingerbread I was forced to wipe my phone. Coupled with the market removing the Apps, what's my course of action to get these? [email protected]
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Thank u for responding formula84. I love the apps. I noticed myself that they all disappeared on the same day. So Google made u guys take them down?
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Just started using this a couple weeks ago, love it, to bad about the market...
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