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Update 3/15 Skype Keeps Backing Out On Video Call Support For Android.

Skype is long overdue for Android. There was supposed to be support on the Xoom tablet, but reports show yesterday that they withdrawed their business/services for the tablet and future laptop/devices .Its word going around that now they will continue to work on a better agreement to bring video chat to the platform. I looked online and alot of Androidians (lol) arent too happy with this. Everyone is wondering was there a Apple pay-off and what is taking so long. Will Skype video chat/3g calls every come to us?

Don't know why Google didn't write their own freaking application for it. I video call through gmail on my laptop fine, seems like the logical step to integrate their phones and tablets into that.
Seriously if Google isn't going to step up and write some BASIC polished apps for their own platform rather than having devices being released half-baked, apple is going to continue to dominate the tablet market.

dinan said:
Don't know why Google didn't write their own freaking application for it. I video call through gmail on my laptop fine, seems like the logical step to integrate their phones and tablets into that.
Seriously if Google isn't going to step up and write some BASIC polished apps for their own platform rather than having devices being released half-baked, apple is going to continue to dominate the tablet market.
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I think its ridiculous. Its taking way too long.
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Unless things like this change, I won't be using the Android platform in the future. One of my top priorities/needs is great app support. If you don't have that, all this new hardware is useless IMO.

meetagrawal said:
Unless things like this change, I won't be using the Android platform in the future. One of my top priorities/needs is great app support. If you don't have that, all this new hardware is useless IMO.
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i can agree with that. i was happy to get a front facing camera but i have yet to use it. so whats the point. i could have kept my g2 around.

Well Google released video chat on the Xoom via google chat so hopefully it wont be long until they integrate it into phones
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aaltaf22 said:
Well Google released video chat on the Xoom via google chat so hopefully it wont be long until they integrate it into phones
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hopefully it may come

It's not just Android, if you check the last update for the Linux client, don't be surprised how long ago that was (January 20, 2010; 13 months ago from Wikipedia).
I've already completely lost faith in Skype, I don't trust them anymore.

ehm??? no 3G calling?
what have i been doing the last few day's?
you can call with 3G.wel atleast i can.

Using skype over 3g service and video calls. And no you haven't been doing it
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I don't think that Skype has any intention of releasing a free Android app. They seem to only be interested in installing video-enabled Skype on devices sold by manufacturers/carriers that will pay them directly. e.g. Verizon or Nokia.
Of course, the strange part of all this is that Skype w/video is available for iPhone 4.
Oh well, if Google releases video chat before skype does, then my skype account, along with the rest of my family's, will be gone.

Sorry if this is a noob question but is it possible to extract the apk of Skype from a Verizon phone and install it on others?

Carne_Asada_Fries said:
Sorry if this is a noob question but is it possible to extract the apk of Skype from a Verizon phone and install it on others?
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i have been questioning this as well. why it didnt happen yet.
unless :
- there is no phone that is out right now and has skype video call in it
OR
- even if they managed to do so, it wont connect to skype network so it was useless " something to do with skype knowing your phone before it connect to the server, and if the phone is not registered in their database, it wont connect.

There's always Fring;
http://www.fring.com/android/
That said, as a Skype subscription holder it'd be nice to have video supported.

Think about the legal ramifications. Google talk is praticially installed on every device and can't be uninstall. Remember way back when Netscape sued Microsoft for having monopolistic capatilism with having IE installled by default? Eventually they got told By the surpreme court that they have to allow more competitive practice with third party vendors. as far as I can see Google is allowing third party vendors to coexist with their own apps...and thank good. I lovvvve my choices. I'm sure we'll see a filtered down version of honeycomb to smartphone. I bet Google chat will even come as a newly downloadable app from the market with such features. Google certainly have their hands fill. I'm pretty sure they got their hands fill for coding for tablets and smartphones at the same time.
Btw I hate using Skype...why doesn't the app have a turn off button?

thommcg said:
There's always Fring;
http://www.fring.com/android/
That said, as a Skype subscription holder it'd be nice to have video supported.
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How dare you....
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inspiron41 said:
Think about the legal ramifications. Google talk is praticially installed on every device and can't be uninstall. Remember way back when Netscape sued Microsoft for having monopolistic capatilism with having IE installled by default? Eventually they got told By the surpreme court that they have to allow more competitive practice with third party vendors. as far as I can see Google is allowing third party vendors to coexist with their own apps...and thank good. I lovvvve my choices. I'm sure we'll see a filtered down version of honeycomb to smartphone. I bet Google chat will even come as a newly downloadable app from the market with such features. Google certainly have their hands fill. I'm pretty sure they got their hands fill for coding for tablets and smartphones at the same time.
Btw I hate using Skype...why doesn't the app have a turn off button?
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You can uninstall any app on the phone if your rooted. And there is a log off/turn off button in skype.
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Carne_Asada_Fries said:
Sorry if this is a noob question but is it possible to extract the apk of Skype from a Verizon phone and install it on others?
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Not a noob question. The xoom would have had it but skype pulled out. There is no android device that has it. The xoom and the thunderbolt were supposed to be the first to have it.
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charlieb620 said:
Not a noob question. The xoom would have had it but skype pulled out. There is no android device that has it. The xoom and the thunderbolt were supposed to be the first to have it.
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heh that means my theory is right. damn i am good

There is a Skype app. It does make (voice only) calls over 3G (and 4G if you believe all the marketing hype). I use it quite regularly to talk with my family back in the US.
As for Google taking forever to put out all these apps, you have to understand that they are subject to the same dev process all other app developers are. They have to wait until the SDK is available. Yeah, they may get it a bit sooner than other devs, but I'd say only a week at most before. It doesn't benefit them to hold out just to get their stuff (apps) out first. And it takes time to produce [email protected]$$ apps. If you dev outside of an existing engine, even longer.
I praise Google for what they've done so far and I look forward to their contributions.

MLB.tv: No Streaming for Epic 4G

Well - thank you Samsung.
MLB.tv updated the AtBat2011 app today to include live streaming on Android devices. Woohoo, right?
Well, not so much. Because Samsung has delayed the official FroYo release for the Epic, the Evo is the only Sprint Device that is supported for live video streaming. Of course, I'm sure my ACS FrozenROM could handle the requirements, but because the Epic isn't officially supported the video option doesn't even show up.
I doubt there are any tricks to spoof device ID, but if anybody has any ideas, that would be great.
Otherwise, I just have one more reason not to buy another Samsung device again. Or, more properly, one more reason to be upset about the FroYo release (or lack thereof).
Here's the link to the app: https://market.android.com/details?...android.gameday.atbat2011.full&feature=banner

I feel your pain on this one. I got the update this morning and was psyched about it. But I was quickly let down when I notice my Epic wouldn't work!!

Thanks for this update. I almost bought it yesterday, then I saw that MLB partnered up with Apple for a free month trial for iPhone users. Hoping for the same Android deal, I see that it's wrought with problems still and not ready for primetime.

The Nexus S is supported, so is there a way to spoof the Epic as a Nexus S? I thought I remember seeing somewhere that one of the ROMs was using a modified market using a Nexus S identifier. Could the same approach be used here?

LIVE GAMES!? GET THIS TO WORK, NOW!!!! I always loved getting the radio feeds but if I can get the actual games, I'd freak the hell out...

speaking of that...when i goto mlb.com on a winmo device..gameday doesnt drop down anymore???? i havent found a way for gameday to come up on the epic, if there is one. but i also would love to listen to the games, anyway to do this on the epic??

Yea, the MLB app. It's $14 but well worth it if you use it as much as I do. I'm dying for live stream of games.

tonyp23 said:
The Nexus S is supported, so is there a way to spoof the Epic as a Nexus S? I thought I remember seeing somewhere that one of the ROMs was using a modified market using a Nexus S identifier. Could the same approach be used here?
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Bonsai was/is? Using the Nexus S keys so we could get protected apps from the market. I thought everybody here was doing the same on the leaked froyo's. Give Randy _T or Mammon a pm.
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T-980 said:
Yea, the MLB app. It's $14 but well worth it if you use it as much as I do. I'm dying for live stream of games.
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ok..good lookin out..i thot that app was just for streaming video clips...but if the radio broadcasts are also avail..i check it out

Top Nurse said:
Bonsai was/is? Using the Nexus S keys so we could get protected apps from the market. I thought everybody here was doing the same on the leaked froyo's. Give Randy _T or Mammon a pm.
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Not without some kind of tweak it appears, I've got the MLB11 App and I'm on Bonsai and don't see any live video options so it seems to still be reading it as an Epic.

When I started using the CM7 alpha, I got an email from google thanking me for my nexus purhase...

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Not without some kind of tweak it appears, I've got the MLB11 App and I'm on Bonsai and don't see any live video options so it seems to still be reading it as an Epic.
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I think it was only being done on the DK28 leak froyo's. No reason to do it now that EC05 is out.
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If you can afford it, get Slingbox. They run from $150 to $250... The Solo (the lesser priced one- beware) has some issue with capacitors.. Anything that you can get on your TV can easily be forwarded to your device. I have an Epic, as well. Slingbox forwards me my MLB account (from Roku)... I also get Netflix, Hulu Plus, and lots of other stuff.. music YouTube, International News, etc. If I have a net connection, I can watch and listen to anything on my TV or Roku
To afford all this, I cut my Uverse account back to basic at $19 a month plus box rental. I was spending $90 a month prior to hooking up Roku and Slingbox. One time investment only for Slingbox and Roku. You will have to fork out the $29 for the Slingbox Mobile for Android app to accomplish this. It includes clever remote control codes to manipulate your TV and other hardware at home.
MLB looks fabulous on Roku this year. Last year, it was problematic. This year, great.
You'll be watching the World Series and all the playoff games without forking out any more money. It's a great way to go. Im saving a lot of money. I use it off and on when work is slow.. watch a couple innings, etc.. When we travel, I use it.. .I also use the Sling software on my laptop.

So if live radio working? I want this app.
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The Root said:
So if live radio working? I want this app.
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Yes, live radio works.

On on bonsai too and I do t have any options to watch games either. Its still an awesome app
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!

mikey80021 said:
When I started using the CM7 alpha, I got an email from google thanking me for my nexus purhase...
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So I went ahead and installed CM7 Alpha 1 to see if that works, but no such luck. When I go to my account on the market (web version) it shows the phone as a Samsung SPH-D700 under Model. When I'm on another ROM it shows up as just SPH-D700 and the manufacturer is the same in both cases (Samsung)

Could someone please drop MLB Android support a email and ask them why our phone isn't supported?

shook187 said:
Could someone please drop MLB Android support a email and ask them why our phone isn't supported?
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I did. They emailed and said they're researching it. Quick turnaround on the response, too.
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The Root said:
I did. They emailed and said they're researching it. Quick turnaround on the response, too.
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Great!!! Keep us updated.

No Movies for Rooted XOOMs?? Devs unite!

Being that this dev community is the absolute best, I have to bring this to light.
Google Movie Support has just informed me that Google Movies will not work for rooted XOOMs. This just won't fly.
Is there anyone out there working on a fix or workaround for this?
I'd love root. I love movies. We shouldn't have to choose between the two.

gdogmcstyles said:
Being that this dev community is the absolute best, I have to bring this to light.
Google Movie Support has just informed me that Google Movies will not work for rooted XOOMs. This just won't fly.
Is there anyone out there working on a fix or workaround for this?
I'd love root. I love movies. We shouldn't have to choose between the two.
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I feel ya bro, and I'm pretty sure the devs are already looking into it. Since it is a DRM authorization issue, it is probably going to be a pretty good hack to get around it.

I'm confused by 2 things on this topic:
1) why does it matter if its rooted or not?
I would assume the answers is because root would allow us some magical privledge of copying a cache and possibly extracting video and then redistributing.
2) how the frig can it tell?
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that is why i cannot watch green hornet. i rented it to see how it would look on the xoom and it will not play

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2) how the frig can it tell?
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My guess is either one of: (1) checking for the ro.secure property being set, or (2) doing something "rootable", like being able to read a certain file/directory, etc.
If in the former case, I don't have an idea of what to do that wouldn't require the HC source, but in the case of the latter, it'd be relatively easy to ... wait- don't let me help El Goog out. It's not rocket science (think rootkit, but in reverse).

Well instead of listening I tried it as well with The Green Hornet and couldn't download it. Kept getting error but these developers will come up with the answers they have been nothing short of amazing when it comes to the Moto Xoom
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kcrudup said:
My guess is either one of: (1) checking for the ro.secure property being set, or (2) doing something "rootable", like being able to read a certain file/directory, etc.
If in the former case, I don't have an idea of what to do that wouldn't require the HC source, but in the case of the latter, it'd be relatively easy to ... wait- don't let me help El Goog out. It's not rocket science (think rootkit, but in reverse).
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Assuming scenario 2, wouldn't Super User prompt for permissions? I would think its likely.
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This is the same with the blockbuster app on the Atrix. I can set SU to block requests from the app, but as long as I'm running rooted, it refuses to play (and tells you when you launch the app).
I don't understand the difference between this and running Itunes or Netflix on a "rooted" (admin capable) PC. Why is the phone different?

This is not development. Moved to general.

theimpaler747 said:
This is not development. Moved to general.
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Your forum, you run it your way, just a question.
With all due respect, couldn't OP remain if modified to [REQUEST] since it's a dev request? General is so filled with crap I think this may get lost. :/

bishop72 said:
that is why i cannot watch green hornet. i rented it to see how it would look on the xoom and it will not play
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So did you still get charged for it? The wifi version won't even get the movies for awhile. I don't know why Google doesn't have it ready for both.

It isn't very surprising to hear. None of the major studios will allow media to be downloaded without some form of restrictive DRM and root access probably violates their policies.

rebill said:
So did you still get charged for it? The wifi version won't even get the movies for awhile. I don't know why Google doesn't have it ready for both.
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? I saw the movie link in Web version of Market.

Yeah, you can order/get charged for it but it won't work. Need to contact customer service to get a refund. They told me they'll consider putting in a warning in the future before you buy it.

cur8or said:
Yeah, you can order/get charged for it but it won't work. Need to contact customer service to get a refund. They told me they'll consider putting in a warning in the future before you buy it.
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Would make more sense for it to check if you're rooted before the transaction goes through.

Nice Google, what a great way to pit the development community against you, even though Android would be nothing without us. Sellout.

Strange, I have unlocked and rooted Nexus One and could play any Netflix video in official Netflix app, so DRM works on rooted system. So may be it's problem with something else?

If you order thru your web browser by going to the web based android market and play it thru your web browser it works.

Thanks for the tip on the browser market thing it works
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nbajwill55 said:
Nice Google, what a great way to pit the development community against you, even though Android would be nothing without us. Sellout.
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Lol you're an idiot. It isn't googles fault they had to do this. If you were selling movies and wanted to make some money, would you want them to be distributed for free without your permission? I think not...

Google's new movie rental service is blocked if your device is rooted

"Google announced their service at Google I/O earlier this month, along with their music streaming service. The service allows users to rent movies to their android devices straight from the Android market. As it transpires, Google specifically locks out users of rooted devices for copy protection reasons."
Here's the link if you want to read the rest.
Comments, concerns, gripes?

siirus09 said:
"Google announced their service at Google I/O earlier this month, along with their music streaming service. The service allows users to rent movies to their android devices straight from the Android market. As it transpires, Google specifically locks out users of rooted devices for copy protection reasons."
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thanks for posting this... but this was like yesterday... literally... im pretty sure most people here see other sites like engadget and saw this already... thanks anyway

sounds like they want people to get movies somewhere else...

steviee7 said:
thanks for posting this... but this was like yesterday... literally... im pretty sure most people here see other sites like engadget and saw this already... thanks anyway
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Umm..i didnt. Please dont speak for me. Thank you OP.
This is retarded. Freakin intellectual property. Pirates ruin it for everyone.
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Who cares? Why would you want to watch a movie on a phone when you can watch it on a 42" HDTV? The only reason I would watch a movie on my Epic is if I was cooling my heels in an airport.
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squshy 7 said:
This is retarded. Freakin intellectual property. Movie companies ruin it for everyone.
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FTFY
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muyoso said:
FTFY
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this.
I'm sure there's a way to 'block' the google movie rental service from obtaining root rights (or at least checking)... no ?

neowin.net said:
This is a bit of an unusual move from Google, who normally promote the open nature of Android; many rooted users are likely to feel somewhat irked by this. There's a likely possibility that the movie studios are the ones behind the decision, unwilling to let Google license anything without some form of copy protection in place. Because of this, many legitimate users will feel they're being punished for the sake of preventing something from leaking on the Internet, which in all likelihood will already be there anyway.
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See.. if I were going to pirate a movie and leak it on the internet, I certainly wouldn't pay money to rent it on my android phone, then try and make it watchable on a 60" TV.. bastards... they're so ignorant (the movie companies)... people will sit in a theater w/ a small camera attached to a pocket sized DVR to make bootlegs.. there's also telesync and telecine 'copies' as well.. w/ those, the 'pirate' is attached directly to the projector to grab the video signal but uses a microphone for the audio. These telesync/telecine 'copies' are usually the most desirable in the bootleg world because of the 'improved' video quality vs the camera in a pocket bootlegs. The next best quality is an 'R5' which is DVD quality video because the movie was released overseas (russia or somewhere?) and since the audio isn't in english, someone takes the 'bootleg' audio from a theater and overlays is onto the video... Then there are 'work prints' (stuff that's still WIP ) and DVDrip (that one should be obvious).. there are also 'pirates' that will just get a netflix subscription to mail the DVD's back and forth, ripping them as they receive them, or blockbuster (you can turn those back into your local store if there are any still open)... What I'm getting at is there are MANY ways for pirates to 'steal' movies and I can assure you that making a rip from a phone would be stupid.. it wouldn't net a tolerable viewing experience. The RIAA needs to go see a doctor and have their heads removed from their collective 'puckered starfishes'
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I could not care less about this topic.
1. I would never pay to rent a movie on my cell phone. Free? Sure. Pay ? no way.
2. The second any movie is released on blueray it's already up for download in FULL quality.

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Lol. Youre half right. I still put the other half on pirates for inciting the movie companies and record labels, thus causing irrational decisions. Hence google music not being debuted in the manner it should have been. But you are right. They do deserve a lot of the blame for not coming up with more creative solutions to their problems compared to all the brute force tactics they've deployed.
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Who cares.. if I really needed to watch a movie on my phone (probably never will), there are a lot of other options
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic 3g

Well you can connect if u have evo to your 42" with HDMI and very u go.
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Devs will edit the apk and remove checks. Or you can deny rights via superuser and it wont see the su binary.
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Devs will edit the apk and remove checks. Or you can deny rights via superuser and it wont see the su binary.
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That is what I was thinking about.
Couldn't you just deny it in SU, and it would think you don't have root rights?

I promise I will use this about as much as I've been using the Samsung Media Hub.
/That's "not at all"

Top Nurse said:
Who cares? Why would you want to watch a movie on a phone when you can watch it on a 42" HDTV? The only reason I would watch a movie on my Epic is if I was cooling my heels in an airport.
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Exactly. Just watch Netflix or buy a google TV then its a much better experience. Music streaming I can understand. But renting movies? Blah.
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Google anti-rooted devises wtf!!!

people today i rented an movie on the new market and guess what? i got an error 49 that says: this content if not available on rooted devices. this is unbelievable after they take our money they come with this crap like if they were in they getting they feelings. i'm piss off man this is an outrage people.

edit: like if they were getting theirs feelings hurt.

You realize you can edit the actual post?

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people today i rented an movie on the new market and guess what? i got an error 49 that says: this content if not available on rooted devices. this is unbelievable after they take our money they come with this crap like if they were in they getting they feelings. i'm piss off man this is an outrage people.
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Well, you can contact them and get a refund. And I don't think you'll make the same mistake twice.
But I can pretty much 99% guarantee in order to get deals to allow renting of movies on the Market, Google had to tell the studios that they wouldn't allow playback on rooted devices. Google is fine with rooted devices, they clearly allow many rooted apps (even apps that root your phone) on the Market. Its the studios that think there's piracy problem and want no playback on rooted phones, even though that's absolutely retarded, but that's how they feel (look at netflix, they were going to require hardware chips for DRM in android phones to get netflix playback at first).
Cool your jets. It'll be a small matter of time before we have the market cracked open and this root check removed so we can use it. If you're rooted you should have no problem waiting for this, you should understand it. The root community won't rage on this, they'll just fix it for themselves as they always do.

Well think of it this way. Either only nonrooted devices get to rent movies, or no android phones get to rent movies. It's not google, but the studios demanding protection from rooted devices copying their films.
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The content providers are thinking ENTIRELY too hard about this. Ok, so they could have took his money and he could have somehow pirated it off the phone. First off, there are millions of copies of whatever said media floating around anyways. Second of all, by them NOT letting him get it, he is probably just gonna go pirate it. F-in idiots! They should just take everyone's money and be thankful anyone even WANTS to actually pay for it. On a sidenote, it's been highly publicized that rooted phones were not gonna be aloud to access this new paid content on the market. Unfortunately looks like you missed all those articles lol. And i'm pretty sure i remember reading that it will take your money and then tell you that you can't have it.

WHAT! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME I CAN'T WATCH MOVIES FROM THE NEW GOOGLE MARKET FROM MY ROOTED PHONE!?!?!
WHEN DID THIS COME ABOUT?!?!?
(all caps rage is for effect)
Edit: just kidding with the post, but really I think it total BS that it wont work on rooted devises. This will pretty much exclude every android user from XDA. I mean, do you know any XDA member that's not rooted?
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Its been like that since way before the new market ever came out!
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TheRomMistress said:
You realize you can edit the actual post?
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yes but the edit button did was not able wen i post again that's why i did another post.
lawalty said:
WHAT! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME I CAN'T WATCH MOVIES FROM THE NEW GOOGLE MARKET FROM MY ROOTED PHONE!?!?!
WHEN DID THIS COME ABOUT?!?!?
(all caps rage is for effect)
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ok i check on my library on the market and i can see the movie on my laptop so at least i'm happy for that. now i could even do other things with it lol.

lolocabra said:
yes but the edit button did was not able wen i post again that's why i did another post.
ok i check on my library on the market and i can see the movie on my laptop so at least i'm happy for that. now i could even do other things with it lol.
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LMFAO that's hilarious! I have a feeling this no-rooted crap is not gonna last long. You can stream it to your laptop which has a thousand and one tools to rip that **** straight to piratebay, but you cant watch it on a rooted phone with its limited aspect ratio, quality, and somewhat harder process of ripping. What dumb asses seriously.
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LMFAO that's hilarious! I have a feeling this no-rooted crap is not gonna last long. You can stream it to your laptop which has a thousand and one tools to rip that **** straight to piratebay, but you cant watch it on a rooted phone with its limited aspect ratio, quality, and somewhat harder process of ripping. What dumb asses seriously.
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I could press this here button and rent your movie, hollywood... oh, I. can't ? you won't allow... it ?
piratebay ... success ! faster, cheaper, and better quality. ha HAAAAAA !

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I could press this here button and rent your movie, hollywood... oh, I. can't ? you won't allow... it ?
piratebay ... success ! faster, cheaper, and better quality. ha HAAAAAA !
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Ya really. It drives me nuts that they think they are still in a position to be making such demands. If I were the ceo of one of those company, I would be doing everything humanly possible to make it as EASY as possible to obtain their stuff legit. Instead they still want to candy coat it in drm and put restrictions all over the place. Its not like ten years ago where your average person really only knew how to get music. In this day and age even grandma moses knows how to download a movie. And with xbox, ps3 etc., you don't even have to go through the trouble of converting and burning it anymore! I mean seriously. The movie industry is its own worst enemy. The music industry imo has gotten slightly better, but the movie industry is its own worst enemy. At least with music they allow things like pandora, and now spotify. It really has curtailed a lot of my piracy. But the movie industry is still trying to run with this old model that's just not working. 10 dollars a TICKET? Twenty to buy it? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I LOVE how the price of everything in the world has went up, but the average wage has not went up barely at all. Don't get me started! In america music and movies are creature comforts, and they gotta realize were gonna get them one way or the other. Do u want to sell one movie for 20 dollars to one out of five people? Or sell a movie for 10 dollars to 4 out of 5.
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Its pretty clear whats going on here. And anyone on XDA understands that there is 100000% more piracy on computers where they offer this also than there are on phones.
But the studios don't care. They know piracy happens on computers and they're fighting that battle. They know that they can demand Google remove functionality from rooted devices, so they do. They can't stop it on computers, but they can (in their minds) stop it on Android phones.
You guys are expecting the studios to act rationally on this, since when do you expect them to do that? Like I said before 1) Did you really expect the studios to not block this? and 2) The community will crack this in no time, cool your jets.

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Its pretty clear whats going on here. And anyone on XDA understands that there is 100000% more piracy on computers where they offer this also than there are on phones.
But the studios don't care. They know piracy happens on computers and they're fighting that battle. They know that they can demand Google remove functionality from rooted devices, so they do. They can't stop it on computers, but they can (in their minds) stop it on Android phones.
You guys are expecting the studios to act rationally on this, since when do you expect them to do that? Like I said before 1) Did you really expect the studios to not block this? and 2) The community will crack this in no time, cool your jets.
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I apologize to the Mistress in advance for being slightly off topic, but Hulu has gotten just as bad. More and more studios are pulling their day after air streaming and making it exclusive to Hulu+. What they don't understand is after I missed a show I would much rather give them ad revenue by watching on Hulu than by torrenting something. Yet they take that away? Greedy idiots.
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You people realize that there has to be something on a phone WITH root compared to a phone withOUT root in order for them to DETECT IT, don't you? What do you suppose that thing is? Probably a command somewhere in the PATH called "su". Want them to not detect that you have root? "mv /path/to/su /path/to/fuisuANYWAY"

will that affect any of the functions of the root?

I don't understand why you're so surprised. This was said would happen when they announced Google Movies in May. Read up.

Why anyone would pay to rent a movie on they're smartphone is beyond me.
Torrent or xdcc that **** and put it on yur sdcard.....voila
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As posted, the devs will get around this. I don't have any devs skills but I'm thinking some type terminal app. Something that retains su permissions to take advantage of the currentwork around.
su
mount -o remount, rw /system
mv /system/xbin/su /system/xbin/mu
Hit home than watch your movie or other paid stuff is done, than reload the same terminal session, which still has su permissions
mv /system/xbin/mu /system/xbin/su
Either the videos or youtube app looks for the su binary. Simply renaming or removing it will yield results.
Perhaps the devs will modify the apps to not check. I only found one instance of su in the videos apk, but I really have no idea what I'm doing , just tinkering and exploring. About to check the youtube apk.
Well that works for me for now...just annoying as ****
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Truth be told anything that is rent-able in the Android Market is already available on torrents anyway! So to put that restriction on rooted phones is almost laughable, considering anyone who went through the process of rooting is almost assuredly a wiz at torrents!