[Q] Why so little action in the Dev forums? - Galaxy Tab 10.1 General

Considering 5000 GTs were handout to developers at I/O I thought there would be a little more development chatter for this device. Is it lack of interest, difficulty with the device, or something else that has limited how much work could be done?

I may be wrong but I think it was more of APP developers rather than Rom developers.
SGT 10.1 uplink initiative

No 3.0 source drop yet
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schwiz said:
No 3.0 source drop yet
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True, but I am surprised there is not an overclock or anything else. The Xoom dev section has a bit more work done on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=948

keyl10 said:
True, but I am surprised there is not an overclock or anything else. The Xoom dev section has a bit more work done on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=948
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Xoom's been out forever. only 5000 i/o tabs are out there. I think it'll speed up once it's available to the public.
But nevermind the dev section, the entire gtab10.1 section is quite dead. Shouldn't there be more buzz as it gets closer to launch date?

ky0nkyon said:
Xoom's been out forever. only 5000 i/o tabs are out there. I think it'll speed up once it's available to the public.
But nevermind the dev section, the entire gtab10.1 section is quite dead. Shouldn't there be more buzz as it gets closer to launch date?
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I agree.
Seems to be very little activity here for a product that is going to launch in less than two weeks!?!
Are people fed up with speculating? Posting in other locations? Is there a delay in availability?
I'm not looking for an answer, I just want to know when will the flood gates open?

Seems about right. There was almost no activity in the Thunderbolt section until about 2 or 3 days before release and then it started picking up. Xoom was also slow at first because it was 3G only at first and that kept a bunch of people away, it didnt really start picking up until the WiFi only version was released.

there is very little we can do at this point because the source for the kernal hasnt been released yet either. So we will have tip wait for that too

yeah, when it is released to the public, the kernel source should be released as well. Once that happens, we should start seeing some overclocking and stuff like that

Because 4950 of the IO tabs were sold on eBay to rich,must have first,without a clue buyers
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That's because the developers went with the Transformer. It's good tablet with a micro sdcard slot and the price is great. Now we have OC to 1.6 plus honeycomb 3.1. I truely considered moving to the GT10, but no microsd was a turn off and very little dev support so far. I now have a 48gb tablet.
And this completely scared me aware from the GT10:
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...-breaking-google-io-limited-edition-27155177/
EEE Pad Transformer sent this

Once these tablets are actually released to the public, I think there is going to be quite a bit of developer activity.
As for the Transformer vs Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, I think they both have really similar specs, although the Tab is much thinner. The Tab does have a keyboard dock accessory available that is similar to what comes with the Transformer. It would be nice to have an expansion slot for memory, but I find the 32GB is plenty for a tablet. If I had to go buy one or the other, it would be a tough choice.
My co-worker and I both have the I/O tablet, and neither of us has had the screen issue. While it's obviously an issue with these I/O tablets, I don't really know how many out of the 5000 had the issue, and Samsung did have some time to address the issue before today.

The people that got them were app devs not rom chefs. Public release/sales is what will reveal eventual development.

unknown_owner said:
And this completely scared me aware from the GT10:
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...-breaking-google-io-limited-edition-27155177/
EEE Pad Transformer sent this
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These were really pre-production run models, and were more of a custom order (more by-hand work, less machines), so they probably didn't have everything hammered out yet. I have a Google I/O tablet and I don't have any issues with mine.

risq said:
Because 4950 of the IO tabs were sold on eBay to rich,must have first,without a clue buyers
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I know you are joking, but as far as I could tell, less than a hundred were sold on eBay. So app devs still have around 4900 of them...

you could give it to every single android dev that there is and it still wouldn't really matter
there's not much we can do until the kernel source is released

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[Q] Development stopped on TAB

hello everyone,
its sad to say but (is it just me) seems as thought developments on our tab have ceased. there have been no beta no news nothing........
its a shame such a potential device.....
ah well......
That is not true. Currently some users are working on getting ubuntu to run on the galaxy ran natively.
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There is a bounty on the tab
just wait...
Probably the devs are taking a deep look into the Honeycomb ports. The Tab was made for it and I´m sure as soon as a Samsung Honeycomb Dump hits the ground, We will be using it in no time.
There is currently a bounty on the tab for a modem that allows 3G and voice at the same time. I'm guessing that many of the devs are currently working on a solution to the problem. This is going to take some time and skill to solve.
Another issue is Honeycomb. I'm betting that most of the devs are busy trying to get at the Honeycomb code so that they can begin trying to port it to the tab.
These developers have lives (jobs, families, etc.) outside of developing and many of them can't spend a great deal of their spare time trying to solve issues that the rest of us have.
They'll be here soon enough. Have patience.
Yea don't worry, this device is still popular, and because the new tab is 10.1. So i'm sure many people will still prefer this for mobility reason. Spring is around the corner
wow..positive
wow.. lovely to see so much positivness(is this even a word)
and really hope that they are cooking up something that would leave us WOW.
moments like this i wish i paid more attention in class and maybe learned to program.
as you can see DEVELOPER FOR OUR DEVICE we have faith in you guys...
keep it up.. and we know its stressful with wives..kids...work...ecc
Also a bit of good news from Samsung deciding that their first Honeycomb tablet will be a 10" model likely means the current Tab will continue to be sold for a while longer. If they had released a replacement that was the same size it would have pretty much killed any additional sales of the current model.
Yeah as soon as the honeycomb source hits aosp it will go boom
The development might be a little slower compared to other devices but hey, slowly but steady just be patient.... the tab will rock!
No boom that I heard but the source is available.
All I want for a early christmas is a vanilla froyo rom with overclocking ability
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godwinvandamme said:
wow.. lovely to see so much positivness(is this even a word)
and really hope that they are cooking up something that would leave us WOW.
moments like this i wish i paid more attention in class and maybe learned to program.
as you can see DEVELOPER FOR OUR DEVICE we have faith in you guys...
keep it up.. and we know its stressful with wives..kids...work...ecc
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The word your looking for is positivity
I think the reason for slow development is due to the price of the device. Especially with the new devices coming out...people will start developing less and less. That's just my guess.
From the Tab.
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godwinvandamme said:
hello everyone,
its sad to say but (is it just me) seems as thought developments on our tab have ceased. there have been no beta no news nothing........
its a shame such a potential device.....
ah well......
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Did you look in the development forum?
Samsung are about to launch not one new Tablet (10.1") but a second (8.9") quite soon.
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No boom that I heard but the source is available.
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of honeycomb? Gingerbread is the latest on AOSP, checked 1 hour ago...
Only the final honeycomb sdk was released today
Ah drat. Nobody sent me the memo about development stopping... I guess I'll stop working on getting stock Linux / Ubuntu / Debian working on the Tab and sell it.
Seriously though, at least where I'm from, the Tab is ridiculously expensive (~$1200 or so). Many people simply don't have that sort of money to drop on something which is in my view, essentially a toy. (I got mine as a present from Hong Kong, to be honest I wouldn't have bought it with my own money)
Nononono...
godwinvandamme said:
hello everyone,
its sad to say but (is it just me) seems as thought developments on our tab have ceased. there have been no beta no news nothing........
its a shame such a potential device.....
ah well......
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The 10.1 moto tab is a huge and overpowered device (considering what it still CAN'T do that other higher powered portable devices CAN, (ie. laptop etc). It's too unwieldy for a mobile ebook reader but not functional enough to be a laptop replacement for students or professionals (no inking potential, less portability along with a netbook/laptop for support). It's a giant portable media player and Angry Birds arcade machine for early adopters and morons with too much money. As soon as the hype dies down, folks interests will turn back to devices that can run android 3, but cost a third less and are actually portable. **** like the Xoom is worthless until it can ACTUALLY replace the need for a keyboard/mouse/microsoft etc. because half-measures won't work for the masses (joe six-pack just wants convenience). This is the HP-TC1000 all over again.
There will be Honeycomb for the Galaxy Tab. The lemmings will love the Xoom, but the rest of us want function over form.

Some sad news on XOOM

So Koush on twitter just announced he is returning his xoom.
which ****en sucks, i hope he is kind enough to give us RM when the sdcard is supported.
and also reports all over the net today say the motorola will stop production on xooms in June...OF THIS YEAR
this all kinda sucks in the eyes of consumers (me + you) for software developers and even accessories. I dont know, maybe im kinda freaking but, it looks as though the motorola xoom is the nexus one of android tablets....i just hope it stays that way in the dev world.
Today seems to be a dark day for the Xoom community as well. All these bad news about the end of production, people canceling Xoom orders for the new G-Tab, now Koush leaving. But life goes on and I love my Xoom! After all, the Xoom is just the vessel for Honeycomb, isn't it? And as long as the bee lives we'll be supported by great developers
Hey Honestly,
Koush is a cool guy and he holds a ton of weight in the android community and I personally respect him and his talent, that being said I could give 2 ****s about what he or anyone else buys, never buys, or returns, and so should everyone else.
Personally the Xoom does what I need it to, and I like it. Some people will feel the same way about the Ipad 2, some people feel the same way about the galaxy tab, and some people feel the same way about Cheese. Out of all of us whos right? Every single one
If you like the Xoom be happy with it, if not return it. Simple as that. My only request is you dont post on here about how awsome your new device is because honestly you can go post that in the forum of the new device and it will not make people angry or sound like your gloating
The Xoom is the Nexus One of the Tab community, because with all of these new devices coming out who knows how much bloat ware or sense or blur or other crap they will have on them. Samsung for one does a totally steller job of providing updates for their devices (thats sarcasm) so I wouldn’t buy anything from them, but again this is my opinion, and someone may totally love their devices and want to catch them all (just like the pokemon) .
As for Motorola, what they’re doing is pretty standard. Think about it they probably have been producing units since Jan possibly even December for a early march release, a 6 month production run in a market where every week a newer shinnier toy comes out I feel is pretty standard.
Thats all just my opinion hope it makes you feel a little better tho And in the great words of Bob Marley, dont worry be happy
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and also reports all over the net today say the motorola will stop production on xooms in June...OF THIS YEAR
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Honestly, I doubt this is completely true. It just says that they are stepping down production, and with good reason.
Things like this happen all the time in industry. You build 1 million devices, and then you use your manufacturing capabilities to build other things while you sell down the inventory, then you start pushing out units again once you get to another level.
All this means is that they are selling alot less than they are making, which may or may not change when the wifi version is released.
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Honestly, I doubt this is completely true. It just says that they are stepping down production, and with good reason.
Things like this happen all the time in industry. You build 1 million devices, and then you use your manufacturing capabilities to build other things while you sell down the inventory, then you start pushing out units again once you get to another level.
All this means is that they are selling alot less than they are making, which may or may not change when the wifi version is released.
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Wifi will give a price point that more people can agree with.
I'm anxiously awaiting my Wifi order to ship from Amazon.
Motorola showed us in the past that if they don't make money with their device, they quickly stop to support it.
Knowing the Xoom is running on an early version of Honeycomb, this doesn't look good at all...Makes me want to cancel my preorder actually...
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I really don't care what koush buys, he bought and sold the galaxy tab 7" in the same amount of time.
If he really cared about the xda community his bootloader would be open source...if he stops making it someone will step in and make one.
Edit: I know he does open source the code, but I'm unsure if the xoom support is in there.
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I just got my xoom for the GPS maps and the turn by turn directions. It works good for that so Im keeping mine!
This is really one of the major downsides of the Internet. It used to be that somebody could have a knee-jerk reaction to something, but by the time it filtered through editors, producers, etc., and into the print and publication media it had already been toned down and made far more realistic.
Nowadays, somebody misunderstands or misquotes something, and five minutes later it's believed as fact by the majority of the population, which has been conditioned to get information in tiny little chunks without any appreciation for context.
lifegear said:
Motorola showed us in the past that if they don't make money with their device, they quickly stop to support it.
Knowing the Xoom is running on an early version of Honeycomb, this doesn't look good at all...Makes me want to cancel my preorder actually...
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Oh please, the OG Droid got an update the other day didn't it? Our xooms are unlocked and unmodified to such a degree that we will be able to create roms from the 3.0 source code without any issue.
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Bauxite said:
I really don't care what koush buys, he bought and sold the galaxy tab 7" in the same amount of time.
If he really cared about the xda community his bootloader would be open source...if he stops making it someone will step in and make one.
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I thought his bootloader was open source? Wasnt that the origional reason it was created as opposed to Amon_RA? Or do I have it backwards?
jvward said:
And in the great words of Bob Marley, dont worry be happy
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Wasn't that Bobby McFerrin?
funnycreature said:
Wasn't that Bobby McFerrin?
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Yep it was, its been a long day and I am tired
jvward said:
I thought his bootloader was open source? Wasnt that the origional reason it was created as opposed to Amon_RA? Or do I have it backwards?
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Whether or not he pushed the code for the xoom is the issue right now.
All I know is Amazon needs to ship it already!
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All I know is Amazon needs to ship it already!
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This development might put the remaing xooms in high demand. Whatever happens I bet they will sell out FAST!. I am glad I allready have 2 of them in my home!. You know what they say..... a bird in the hand is worth 2 xooms on pre order at Amazon! LOL
i FREAKING LOVE my xoom. I have an ipad that also and I never touch it. Go android!!!
android ftw yo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTUwqxHpXMY
i love my xoom too and im pretty content with it. i sold my ipad, two weeks before the announcement of the ipad 2 (robbed the dude on craigslist)
my main concern at this point, and i think its to a certain degree, paranoia, that the pushing up updates, dev community mods and improvements all together will be few and far between.
after typing that i realize thats nonsense, motorola sliced off at least 1-2months of shipping delays by delaying adobe, the sdcard and the 4g...just to be ahead of the pack.
whether that option was smart in the longrun is a question for the finance people. but as a android geek im good with that, just as long as developers (like koush) still have at it.
Thank god Moto priced the Xoom so high that I(and other sane people) got the ipad 2. At least I know that Apple wont just drop their product like that less than 6 months after release.
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[Off-Topic] Which tablet

I just wanted to ask you guys my fellow Epic owners if any of you own an Android tablet and from a development standpoint which one would you go with? Are there any Epic devs that do any tablet custom work?
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Bonsai has had a ROM out for the Galaxy 10.1 for a couple of weeks now. Also working on the ASUS Transformer.
Those are the two front runners on my list right now with Asus being in the lead.
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If I were to buy a tablet, i'd either get:
Cheap: Nook Color, already has a big community, cm7, hc
Not so cheap: Galaxy Tab 10.1, cleanest looking HC tablet I've seen, and I've seen 'em all.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
transformer has bang for buck value however ive seen two at work haber to be returned due to non responsive screens.
Galaxy 10.1 stopped me from buying the flyer/view. I really liked the 7 inch screen but the galaxy just felt great....nicest thing compared to the ipad.
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I'm getting a transformer once they fix the bugs and 3.0 is open source. I'm keeping an eye on the forums.
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Dont forget about HP touchpad.
Yeah it got many bugs and negative reviews due to bugs but after an update im sure that web os will shine on it.Its slow and lags because hp dint have anough time to write the code for touchpad's gpu so basicly right now cpu does all gpu tasks.
Yeah I want GS 10.1 too but I will wait and see if hp fixes touchpad first because I want something different from ios and android.
Ill be buying an android tablet once they stop using the tegra 2. Until then, 10 ft poll.
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muyoso said:
Ill be buying an android tablet once they stop using the tegra 2. Until then, 10 ft poll.
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The transformer can be oced to 1.6 stable on a dual core tegra
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I have a galaxy tab 10.1 and I love it so much. It was a tough choice between the tab and the Asus transformer... but I just liked the size/weight of the tab better.
Don't buy a Honeycomb tablet.
Wait for Ice Cream or later when the interesting hardware and software optimizations take hold with 10 "retina display" equivalents and quad core processors.
I was gonna buy once a quad core came out..but after seeing a gtab for 250$ new that has a tegra 2 cpu I couldn't resist...it has a port of cm7 and honeycomb. and stuff...they aren't perfect but they work for the most part. Its biggest weakness right now is lack of honeycomb tegra 2 drivers and its screen is not the best LCD tech used..otherwise its ok..
Xhyperion said:
The transformer can be oced to 1.6 stable on a dual core tegra
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And still can't play media files my phone can . . . . .
That's why I have no interest in a tegra 2 tablet. Complete and utter failure to play ALL high profile h.264 video in at least 720p, which is something my epic can do and the original ipad can do. Yes,, the original single core ipad..
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gTen said:
I was gonna buy once a quad core came out..but after seeing a gtab for 250$ new that has a tegra 2 cpu I couldn't resist...it has a port of cm7 and honeycomb. and stuff...they aren't perfect but they work for the most part. Its biggest weakness right now is lack of honeycomb tegra 2 drivers and its screen is not the best LCD tech used..otherwise its ok..
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The 7" gab does not have a tegra 2 and is not dual core.
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I had a sylvania tablet for the the longest and manged to get Google Market and froyo on it (unless you had one, you know that was a GREAT feat!) and I was happy with it...unfortunately, circumstances forced me to sell it and when I did he had just gotten rid of his 7' Galaxy Tab, telling me that the simplest tilt would make it change orientation quickly. I was surprised that he chucked it for a sylvania. I plan on either getting a Color Nook next, or try to find a sale on an Acer a500.
Also:ironically, 3 weeks after I sold the Sylvania Tablet, the source code was finally released for it, which means development for it is soon to rise *sigh* real bad time, I guess...
We bought a bunch of sgtabs at work. Love mine from a practical standpoint, but the dev world is a bit behind. I don't think its lacking much, just a reliable cwm and then a complete set of stock files (modem, kernel, rom) and things will be moving. I expect the source will eventually come out. I hear that's what's lacking in the kernel dev dept. Personally I like samsung. When the 4g 10.1 is released I plan on getting that one. Despite the slow update releases, you have to admit, the galaxy s line rocks.
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usagi111 said:
I had a sylvania tablet for the the longest and manged to get Google Market and froyo on it (unless you had one, you know that was a GREAT feat!) and I was happy with it...unfortunately, circumstances forced me to sell it and when I did he had just gotten rid of his 7' Galaxy Tab, telling me that the simplest tilt would make it change orientation quickly. I was surprised that he chucked it for a sylvania. I plan on either getting a Color Nook next, or try to find a sale on an Acer a500.
Also:ironically, 3 weeks after I sold the Sylvania Tablet, the source code was finally released for it, which means development for it is soon to rise *sigh* real bad time, I guess...
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I looked at the Acer A500 for a long time, I really wanted it. But after read tablet reviews on Engadget I changed my mind. The A500 definitely looks great and has a great looking screen.
I have a motorola xoom and just got the 3.2 upgrade. The xoom is the default google experience device so it gets all of the updates (us only). Which is quite nice when compared to the epic's slow upgrade process.
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063_XOBX said:
Don't buy a Honeycomb tablet.
Wait for Ice Cream or later when the interesting hardware and software optimizations take hold with 10 "retina display" equivalents and quad core processors.
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Hmmmm.....I think this is some
good advice. I'll hold off for a little bit.
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lviv73 said:
Dont forget about HP touchpad.
Yeah it got many bugs and negative reviews due to bugs but after an update im sure that web os will shine on it.Its slow and lags because hp dint have anough time to write the code for touchpad's gpu so basicly right now cpu does all gpu tasks.
Yeah I want GS 10.1 too but I will wait and see if hp fixes touchpad first because I want something different from ios and android.
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It's a single core CPU and has the weight and dimensions of the iPad 1.... No Netflix, kindle reader, and Skype on it sucks... It's also more expensive... Honestly, what does it have going for it? I'd love for webOS to take off, but it just keeps lagging behind by about 9 months...

Xoom Dev Scene Dead

Well not completely but compared to the other tablets Dev sections it does seem quite dormant. Just look at the Transformer or the Acer Inconia. There hasn't been much activity here besides a few mods but not any full releases.
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cruzin_cruzing said:
Well not completely but compared to the other tablets Dev sections it does seem quite dormant. Just look at the Transformer or the Acer Inconia. There hasn't been much activity here besides a few mods but not any full releases.
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Mmm... this topic has been brought up so so so many times...
It's hard to do anything when Google is keeping the Honeycomb source locked up. As far as I know the other Honeycomb tablets have been modified by the manufacturing company to alter certain parts of the Android OS and such, thus allowing for a bit more flexibility when it comes to development.
As far as the Xoom goes, it's the only official pure stock vanilla Google experience tablet, and Google is keeping it locked down without further notice. It's assumed that they will be ready to fully release the source for everything when Ice Cream Sandwich launches in the near future.
If the devs could use magic, they would. Until then... we must wait for ICS. The Xoom is Google's baby, as it was the first of it's kind to start the dawn of the Honeycomb era. When they are good and ready, the development scene for the Xoom will skyrocket in short notice. Trust me.
Also, the only other thing the developers can try besides just tweaking stuff is port the Galaxy Tab 10.1's Touch Wiz Rom to the Xoom. But it's a step back as it's only Android 3.1 while we are already on 3.2.
Someone should get a job at Google and leak the Honeycomb source and then quit. That would be epic.
gqstatus0685 said:
Someone should get a job at Google and leak the Honeycomb source and then quit. That would be epic.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha I agree.
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Also the other devices are incorporating Xoom or Galaxy bits and catching up. This is the problem with the device officially having the newest OS out there. The will be a day when the Xooms' longevity will be evident.
As for now we have the latest and greatest already. It is hard for us flashoholics but there's a reason so much is going on with the Asus and Acer. They needed help hence the Xoom and Galaxy ports. Its lonely at the top. By the way we have Tiamat which in my opinion is the gold standard.
I'm a flashaholic. Good thing I have my thunderbolt or I would go into withdrawls.
Xoom Xoom
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Also the other devices are incorporating Xoom or Galaxy bits and catching up. This is the problem with the device officially having the newest OS out there. The will be a day when the Xooms' longevity will be evident.
As for now we have the latest and greatest already. It is hard for us flashoholics but there's a reason so much is going on with the Asus and Acer. They needed help hence the Xoom and Galaxy ports. Its lonely at the top. By the way we have Tiamat which in my opinion is the gold standard.
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+1 Very well said.
Ok I only see one issue. Has anyone tested a usb burner? What else is there that we can't already do?
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hammer4203 said:
Ok I only see one issue. Has anyone tested a usb burner? What else is there that we can't already do?
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Fully sourced custom Roms. That's what everybody is looking for. With that you would have new features, tweaks, and abilities that a stock Rom would never give you in a million years. Tiamat is the gold standard and the other devices wish they had them on their side. The team is just amazing to have created a modified stock Rom experience that works better than default stock. And when they are able to create fully customized fully sourced custom Roms... a loss for words...
Don't feel to bad because the other devices roms are usually referenced to our stock roms.
Yep i love Hammerhead!!!
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gqstatus0685 said:
Someone should get a job at Google and leak the Honeycomb source and then quit. That would be epic.
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Awesome! How they don't realize from the past with Android custom devs how much further android could be catapulted past the competition I just don't know.
I also don't get how people are so quick to hop on the latest updates when, even without the source being released, previous versions customers by devs blow away whatever little appetizers Google farts out to us.
Anyhow, I gotta say the Xoom has come an awful long way considering the SC hasn't even been released.
Devs are friggin awesome!
Imagine if the source was out. Xoom sales would jump tenfold.
/facepalm
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may be we should all chip in n collect some money, get a hold of the guy who hacked into psn, n later even sony's main servers, n pursue hm to hack into google n get us what we need...n knowing anything about this guy, i bet he'd even do it for free...just for kicks...
"That's what everybody is looking for."
And you know that how? I'm one of those "everybody" and I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for someone to take over Ubuntu-development. Even Asus EEE, Acer Iconia and Samsung Galaxy Tab have Ubuntu-ROMS, but we have some crap-ass VNC-Ubuntu. If they can do it (especially considering the Asus EEE and Acer Iconia have the same Tegra 2), then it should be possible for us too. That is what I'm looking for, so don't talk for everybody please.
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"That's what everybody is looking for."
And you know that how? I'm one of those "everybody" and I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for someone to take over Ubuntu-development. Even Asus EEE, Acer Iconia and Samsung Galaxy Tab have Ubuntu-ROMS, but we have some crap-ass VNC-Ubuntu. If they can do it (especially considering the Asus EEE and Acer Iconia have the same Tegra 2), then it should be possible for us too. That is what I'm looking for, so don't talk for everybody please.
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It's just a general statement, not literally meaning every single person. It's just something one says, and it's not meant to be taken literally as an individual. But ok: "A lot" of people are looking forward to the fully sourced, and full customization from a true custom Rom. And generally speaking... the first thing the average root user thinks of are the custom Roms when they hear the term "source code". Ultimately that's what it would mean when the source code is released. The devs will then have the proper tools to start developing new custom Roms. They will then begin to flood the market in due time with new and unique Roms, as was the same with the OG Droid.
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Imagine if the source was out. Xoom sales would jump by ten.
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There- FTFY.
You can only milk the same cow so many times, until more cows come along this rom release is milked out.
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Vistaus said:
"That's what everybody is looking for."
And you know that how? I'm one of those "everybody" and I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for someone to take over Ubuntu-development. Even Asus EEE, Acer Iconia and Samsung Galaxy Tab have Ubuntu-ROMS, but we have some crap-ass VNC-Ubuntu. If they can do it (especially considering the Asus EEE and Acer Iconia have the same Tegra 2), then it should be possible for us too. That is what I'm looking for, so don't talk for everybody please.
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Well I'm sure it's a valid point for you, but being a casual Android user who roots, having an Ubuntu based rom makes no sense to me. I admit I don't even know what an Ubuntu rom is for. Is it something like porting Windows OS into the tablet? If so, I doubt many users care for something like this since rom development to them is more about tweaking, optimizing, themeing and adding functions to an Android based rom. Porting other OSes is a lot more niche and caters to a smaller group of users.
So since the Honeycomb source is indefinitely locked up by Google, themed and overclocked Honeycomb is as good as we can get for now. The next best thing to wait for is Samsung to update the Galaxy Tab 10.1 to Honeycomb 3.2 and we'll probably get Touch Wiz ported over.

Acer Quality

I don't know if anybody here has heard, but Acer just teased a new tablet, amazing sounding one, to say the least, and I was just wondering everybody's opinion of Acer's build quality, and how well they update their devices currently, and just the overall performance that you get out of this tablet.
Here's the article for anyone who wanted to see:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/01/08/acer-shows-new-iconia-tab-with-quad-core-processor-1080p-display/
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Oh my! as much as I don't want to spend more money, I might need to THIS LOOKS TO BE QUITE AN UPGRADE ..
To answer your question Acer has good quality for the bucks in your bank. I like Acer as this is my fist Acer product matter in fact the only complaint I have is the microphone it stinks.. but if they have fixed that which I'm sure they have ill be sure to pick this up!
Thanks for the link!
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Mic isn't bad at all, just not very loud... Some voice chat programs (including skype and gtalk, unfortunately) mess things up, though, giving you weird background noises (not on all devices, though, it works for me). Other than that, the Acer devices are very well worth their money.
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I don't know if anybody here has heard, but Acer just teased a new tablet, amazing sounding one, to say the least, and I was just wondering everybody's opinion of Acer's build quality, and how well they update their devices currently, and just the overall performance that you get out of this tablet.
Here's the article for anyone who wanted to see:
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/01/08/acer-shows-new-iconia-tab-with-quad-core-processor-1080p-display/
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If you Google Acer A700 you'll see that the specs on that tab have been out for awhile. I'll be waiting to see if Acer delivers ICS to this tab first. If they drop support on this tab, there's no way in h3ll I'll be purchasing another Acer tab. If they do give us ICS on our tabs, I'll be grabbing the A700, as it seems it's going to be the best "bang for the buck" among the 2012 tabs
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If you Google Acer A700 you'll see that the specs on that tab have been out for awhile. I'll be waiting to see if Acer delivers ICS to this tab first. If they drop support on this tab, there's no way in h3ll I'll be purchasing another Acer tab. If they do give us ICS on our tabs, I'll be grabbing the A700, as it seems it's going to be the best "bang for the buck" among the 2012 tabs
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I agree 120% with this .. I have a birthday coming in MAY .. Giggles..
if my a500 does not get the support it should.. i might just wait and get a win 8 arm tablet.. and Dual Boot it .but there is always battery issues with windows . we will see what the tech word brings us in 2012.. for now my a 500 meets all the HAVE to have needs.. as if i really NEED a tablet.
Acer always seems to be giving the best bang for your buck, whether it is laptops or not tablets.
One gripe I have against acer is their bloatware. Some may like it but others (like myself) can't stand it.
Also keep in mind that acer is releasing the A200 soon. It's pretty much the same spec wise as the A500 but apparently has no rear facing camera. The pricing looks quite attractive though. I'm still happy with my A500. I actually have no desire to replace it with something newer and better, and I usually drool over the latest and greatest in technology.
I've had an a500 since november and the build quality is great. They have been providing adequate updates so far, and I expect them to provide ICS, but we will see.
Ive been wanting to get a second tablet bc my daughter always has this one and wouldn't hesitate to buy another acer.
Other than build quality ill be looking at development on market app as well as on xda
Gameloft and other game developers choose a500 as a flag ship for development another reason I choose this tablet over Asus, Samsung, and Mototrola. I contacted Gameloft before I picked up a 10.1 tablet around September and asked them what tablet to pick up they told me Acer Iconia because Acer has been the only company that was helping them out the most with developmental needs.. so of course when I went to best buy they were out of a500s and I had 300 bucks from trading in my Droid incredible and I didn't want to wait so I picked up the thrive because of the nice stuff included with it.. but ended up having nothing as far as xda & others so picked up tf101 loved it but it kept slipping out of my hands.. lol so bestbuy finally called me to tell me the Acer was in so I picked it up answer fell in love with it. So that my awesome story and we lived happily ever after
So I will most likely pick up Acer if top devs do aswell.
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Thanks for the replies guys! I still have plenty of time to think this over. Acer is definitely a huge choice now though, and I like this community, way friendlier than the original Asus Transformer. Back before the Prime came out, I made a thread like this, asking about Asus and what to expect in the tablets, and it was immediately hostile responses. Terrible, but glad I didn't have enough to buy that Prime, so much bad reports about it. My choices are now this A700, thanks to your responses and some research, and the Asus TF700T.
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Oh, also something else, is Acer good with the bootloader? Like is it locked, or is it somewhat easy to root? Not a big deal, but just curious
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Lol your welcome too root is simple as long as u dont update u will just install an app that do it 4 you but if you dont know much about rooting you better search thses forums
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The Acer bootloader does some checksumming and stuff that makes rooting hard on the newer FWs, but there's a rooting method around that works (downgrading isn't much of a problem). As has been said, just use the search.
Alright, I was just wondering though, different company's products usually have completely different rooting methods than others; I've only ever rooted all my HTC phones, but thanks.
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Just thought some would find this info helpful..
UPDATE: Looks like this is indeed the A700. The folks at The Verge managed to find the new Iconia Tab lounging around in Vegas and discovered that it's packing a 1.3GHz quad-core Tegra 3 processor and Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, as well as the aforementioned 1080p display. It's also got Bluetooth support, a microSD card slot, and an HDMI port. As far as release details go, the A700 is said to be landing sometime in the second quarter, but no other specific launch information is known just yet.

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