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The big tablet debate

So I'm a huge android nerd, and I really want a tablet. The problem I'm having is which one do I get. Here are some pros and cons I have for the ones that have been announced.
Xoom - While Motorola has impressed me with their quality and support for android phones, I feel, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the Xoom was released too early because Motorola was rushing to be the first. It has a lot of bugs and I'm not sure if it's worth taking the risk that they will support the device, or if I should wait for a second generation.
The LG slate - The specs are comparable to the Xoom and hopefully the extra time they are taking to release means there will be less bugs. I don't know much about LG as fast as android is concerned, but I am excited about the G2X phone coming out.
The Samsung Galaxy tab - I have a galaxy s phone, so that should tell you I have little faith in their ability to support their devices. I don't fault them for the original tab because they were the first and it was before dual core became the thing and before hummingbird was released. It sucks they can't or won't update the original tab, but I wouldn't let that stop me from buying this one if it is really good. Again, my only issue with Samsung is that they continuously try to convince me they will support their devices and continuously let me down. Great displays, though.
HTC Scribe - Looks awesome, but single core? That wouldn't bother me much, but if they start releasing games and apps specific for dual core devices then anyone with that device is screwed.
Sho what do you think? Any input from Xoom users or anyone in general is appreciated.

Check out the Viewsonic Gtablet. Awesome specs, pretty much "unbrickable", easily customizable (perfect for android nerd), and best of all it's about 1/3 the price of the xoom, et al.
I have the xoom, iPad, and the Gtablet, and while my go to tablet is the xoom, I still can't believe how the Gtablet performs, and fun to play with (screen is not best though).

I think that virtually everything that's "unfinished" about the Xoom is really about what's unfinished in Honeycomb. So, no other vendor is going to be ahead of Motorola in this regard. In fact, they're likely to be BEHIND the Xoom to the extent that they have customized UI's and/or software that they're adding to their devices.
The only exception to this is the 4G upgrade, but I don't know of any other tablet except the HTC on Sprint's that guaranteed so far of getting 4G at all. So, that shouldn't be counted against the Xoom.
Note that I'm not trying to defend the Xoom here, but rather to point out that other devices are likely to be just as "unfinished" as the Xoom until Google releases the first big Honeycomb update. For myself, I'm going to take a good hard look at the Asus, simply because the idea of having a keyboard dock with another 24Wh battery is really attractive to me.

Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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kalfou said:
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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Except its still iOS which a lot of people around here try to avoid. Not because we are Android Fan Boys, but because we want it our way, not their way.

bnandrew said:
So I'm a huge android nerd, and I really want a tablet. The problem I'm having is which one do I get. Here are some pros and cons I have for the ones that have been announced.
Xoom - While Motorola has impressed me with their quality and support for android phones, I feel, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the Xoom was released too early because Motorola was rushing to be the first. It has a lot of bugs and I'm not sure if it's worth taking the risk that they will support the device, or if I should wait for a second generation.
The LG slate - The specs are comparable to the Xoom and hopefully the extra time they are taking to release means there will be less bugs. I don't know much about LG as fast as android is concerned, but I am excited about the G2X phone coming out.
The Samsung Galaxy tab - I have a galaxy s phone, so that should tell you I have little faith in their ability to support their devices. I don't fault them for the original tab because they were the first and it was before dual core became the thing and before hummingbird was released. It sucks they can't or won't update the original tab, but I wouldn't let that stop me from buying this one if it is really good. Again, my only issue with Samsung is that they continuously try to convince me they will support their devices and continuously let me down. Great displays, though.
HTC Scribe - Looks awesome, but single core? That wouldn't bother me much, but if they start releasing games and apps specific for dual core devices then anyone with that device is screwed.
Sho what do you think? Any input from Xoom users or anyone in general is appreciated.
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Xoom user here and I say wait til LG and Samsung release their Tabs, play with all of them and then decide. As far as the Scribe is concerned they already make tablet specific games so with that your already screwed.
Visual360 said:
Check out the Viewsonic Gtablet. Awesome specs, pretty much "unbrickable", easily customizable (perfect for android nerd), and best of all it's about 1/3 the price of the xoom, et al.
I have the xoom, iPad, and the Gtablet, and while my go to tablet is the xoom, I still can't believe how the Gtablet performs, and fun to play with (screen is not best though).
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I also have GTab (that I'm willing to sell to anyone who wants it btw) and I have to say that customizing it is fun but using it is not. The screen is horrible and I mean really really bad, a disaster when you see it next to your phone or the xoom.
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Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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That's not even one of his choices and I'm sorry but I think the xoom trumps the ipad 2 in almost all categories.
Just my input on the matter. Hope it helps.

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Except its still iOS which a lot of people around here try to avoid. Not because we are Android Fan Boys, but because we want it our way, not their way.
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Jailbroken. Interface no biggie
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Jailbroken. Interface no biggie
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I still cant stand looking at the square icons all over my screen. iOS, even when jailbroken, is still boring to look at. Just my opnion but you still wouldnt be able to customize the iPad2 like I have with my Xoom.
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kalfou said:
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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Except the Jailbreak for iPad2 is still on the "horizon".

kalfou said:
Jailbroken. Interface no biggie
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"Widgets".

kalfou said:
Get the ipad 2, trust me. Then in a couple of months or a year android will be up and running "properly". If you want a tablet right now...jailbroken ipad 2. Done. Perfect.
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You really are barking up the wrong tree here. While the iPad 2 is great for my grandma and other non tech savvy people this is XDA DEVELOPERS and the iPad goes against everything we do here. Even with jailbreaking you will never get the full customization that you get with Android, never. Steve jobs thinks he knows best for his followers and always will. I even went and checked one out because it is more compatable with my colleges online learning center but I took one look at that horrid UI and just couldn't do it. Not to mention honeycomb is an actual tablet operating system, ios is the same OS as the iPhone just with some tablet friendly apps. Great for my gf and my mom but definitely not for someone like me who likes to tinker.
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Xoom users, your device review later on..

My brother in law recently asked me if I wanted to take his xoom off his hands for 400$ bucks. First off I'm not too fond of the moto brand butim willing to give it a shot. Anywho I was wondering to get some general input on the device.
How are you guys digging the speed, over all performance of the device?
are there any hardware quirks or the like I should know of?
How easy is it to obtain the 1.5ghz overclock? Also how is it faring in battery life and system stability with the oc?
Sorry for the questions but seeing reports of gt10.1 feeling snappier and smoother than the xoom I got a little worried. Seeing as if they're almost identical on the silicon front.
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The Xoom and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 use the exact same processor/gpu and software, anyone who says it's faster is just wrong.

Quite frankly while oc to 1.5G is extremely good and many thanks to our devs here,
new 3.1 stock is running smooth like silk and much much faster than even the oc one of 3.0.1
I think google hit the major home run on the previous ipad 2 advantage, the responsiveness of everything (apps, screen etc)
LOVING MY 3.1 so far.

They aren't using the same processor. The xoom uses a tegra 2 while the galaxy tab uses a new Samsung dualcore Orion processor, similar to the apple a5.
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>while the galaxy tab uses a new Samsung dualcore Orion
Link, please?

Berzerker7 said:
They aren't using the same processor. The xoom uses a tegra 2 while the galaxy tab uses a new Samsung dualcore Orion processor, similar to the apple a5.
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I don't know where you heard that crazy fact. That was a false rumor from 2010.
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Still... what are some things you guys love and hate about your xoom? I don't really like site reviews because they usually only report on first impressions. I want feedback from people that have had it for months now. I am an epic 4g owner. One of the things I was wondering if I could do was use the psx emu coupled with a controller. I heard 3.1 gave you guys the ability to use a 360 or ps3 controller. This is one of the biggest selling points to me. Emus. How are you guys doing with them?
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e.mote said:
>while the galaxy tab uses a new Samsung dualcore Orion
Link, please?
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The G-Tab uses Tegra 2
engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-official-tegra-2-honeycomb-dual-camer

RushAOZ said:
Still... what are some things you guys love and hate about your xoom? I don't really like site reviews because they usually only report on first impressions. I want feedback from people that have had it for months now. I am an epic 4g owner. One of the things I was wondering if I could do was use the psx emu coupled with a controller. I heard 3.1 gave you guys the ability to use a 360 or ps3 controller. This is one of the biggest selling points to me. Emus. How are you guys doing with them?
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Wow, I actually wrote a pretty great reply to you and accidentally hit discard on my Xoom, that's -1 lol.
So I'm not going to type everything I typed previously but ill try to end with this. Specifically I like myXoom because its small with a bignscreen, it has a good weight and feel to it, not a huge fan of the super thin stuff.
You won't catch too many people here saying this but, as long as it runs 3.0+ you're golden, they'll all do the same stuff. The Xoom does have pretty much everything, I read somewhere the Tab does not have a micro USB port, that's a dealbreaker for me.
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Considering a tablet, want suggestions!

Hey guys, so tomorrow is my birthday and my grandparents said they'd be willing to buy me a tablet. Thing is, I don't know which tablet I want. I'm highly considering the Galaxy Tab 10.1 since I love Touchwiz UX, and looking at the reviews makes me even more confident. However, I'm not sure if I should wait a big longer for tablets to get quad-core, and if that would affect gaming for me in the near future. (Like for example, newer 3D games would be hard to run since I don't have quad-core).
Any ideas?
Thanks!

I still think the ASUS Transformer is tops with the dock. AND they have UX ported.
However the Galaxy Tab(s) are going to get good development. But hell so does the Transformer.
I would say wait for Kal-El. But they keep pushing it back.

Well, I'm actually not planning on rooting it only because its a gift and I have my phone to mess around with so I don't really care for that. I know what you mean though about kal-el. I want to wait for it, but its not certain when it will come out or anything and its hard to keep up with the latest and greatest. Thanks though, I'm curious to hear others suggestions
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Ask for a giftcard. Wait for windows 8

Or the nexus prime. >5" is a tablet for my standards
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I would wait to see ICS and how quickly it is adopted on the current gen tablets. If Samsung is as bad as updating the Tabs as they were the original US Galaxy line.. Ugh. Plus, yeah, there is Kal-el a you mentioned already.
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I highly recommend ipad. As of right now none other tablet works like ipad. I bought touchpad during fire sale but I sold it recently because it didn't do better than my phone or laptop.
This means that my touchpad wasn't worth while to bring to work, as it lacked note taking ability nor presenting ability. I bet if u buy galaxy for 500$, you will spend most of time trying to tinker it to do what you intended to but ultimately gets frustrated and sell it.
Also most of the productivity apps are fine tuned for ipad.
However if you are going to use tablet for media consumption, get kindle fire. It has vast library of amazon goodness. But it lacks mic and ffc which makes skype unusable.
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If you don't plan on rooting I'd say the Galaxy Tab 10.1, I've messed around with it and it feels a lot more natural to use and the screen is absolutely gorgeous. But that's me, I want to have the tablet experience and after comparing and contrasting the Galaxy Tab is something I'm looking at. I was trying to get a TouchPad before people panicked but I got screwed haha.

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Ask for a giftcard. Wait for windows 8
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Don't worry I am. And nah, I'd rather stick with android.
bagelicious said:
I would wait to see ICS and how quickly it is adopted on the current gen tablets. If Samsung is as bad as updating the Tabs as they were the original US Galaxy line.. Ugh. Plus, yeah, there is Kal-el a you mentioned already.
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Well, the galaxy tab was good at updating to 3.2 pretty quickly. And since it's their only big tablet (other than the different sizes), it's going to get updated more frequently than the epic most likely (especially since I'm getting the wifi version, so no worries about getting the OTA from Sprint). As much as I want to wait for kal-el, I think I'm just gonna go with the galaxy tab 10.1. Kal-el is keep getting pushed back, and for all I know it won't come out for another 4-5 months. Sure I may miss out on some games, but technology moves fast these days. I guess you gotta find a point and stick with it for a while.
mtwow789 said:
I highly recommend ipad. As of right now none other tablet works like ipad. I bought touchpad during fire sale but I sold it recently because it didn't do better than my phone or laptop.
This means that my touchpad wasn't worth while to bring to work, as it lacked note taking ability nor presenting ability. I bet if u buy galaxy for 500$, you will spend most of time trying to tinker it to do what you intended to but ultimately gets frustrated and sell it.
Also most of the productivity apps are fine tuned for ipad.
However if you are going to use tablet for media consumption, get kindle fire. It has vast library of amazon goodness. But it lacks mic and ffc which makes skype unusable.
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I know what you mean. I've definitely considered the iPad. It's great for gaming, productivity, almost everything. Jailbreaking is harmless and I never have to worry about battery life. But the beauty of Android that I love that it's constantly growing. Not just in rom development, but in the marketplace and system as a whole. I feel like everyday I can wake up and see a new app for Android or a new leak of the latest build. Besides, I love the customizability and Touchwiz UX. And I think I'll be satisfied with it. I have my phone for hacking and everything, so I don't think I'll get too many urges to go and break my tablet.
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If you don't plan on rooting I'd say the Galaxy Tab 10.1, I've messed around with it and it feels a lot more natural to use and the screen is absolutely gorgeous. But that's me, I want to have the tablet experience and after comparing and contrasting the Galaxy Tab is something I'm looking at. I was trying to get a TouchPad before people panicked but I got screwed haha.
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Well, now I know I'm making the right decision. I hope you're right

Get the 10.1
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Get Gtab and put on In Paris and Pershoot's kernel. Fun times.

The Root said:
Get Gtab and put on In Paris and Pershoot's kernel. Fun times.
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He's not going to root it, as it's a gift.

If you're going for space try the Archos 501586 7o. 250GB HDD!
Lack of dual core and honeycomb being the drawbacks

darkierawr said:
If you're going for space try the Archos 501586 7o. 250GB HDD!
Lack of dual core and honeycomb being the drawbacks
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Dang!! But eh, not worth it.
Since it's wifi-only, I'm gonna have music only streamed so no space there. Other than that, it's just apps and movies and movies I can delete if necessary.

Go iPad. You wont regret it. Especially if you already use iTunes.
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readingkeeper said:
Go iPad. You wont regret it. Especially if you already use iTunes.
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Nah, I think I've made up my mind. I mean, I know what you're saying. If I were to get an iPad, there would be nothing wrong with it and I'd have no complaints. But on that same note, I would also end out regretting not buying the galaxy tab 10.1 since I didn't give it a chance. I mean, idk. I want a galaxy tab 10.1, but others say iPad. What's bad about the tab 10.1?

I've heard nothing but good things from both really.

Well, now I'm just debating and my head's hurting a lot lol. I love Android and Touchwiz UX, but the iPad also offers well-known battery life, a variety of apps, and constant updates.
Ugh, my head has never hurt so much lol. I can't decide

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Well, now I'm just debating and my head's hurting a lot lol. I love Android and Touchwiz UX, but the iPad also offers well-known battery life, a variety of apps, and constant updates.
Ugh, my head has never hurt so much lol. I can't decide
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Let me put it to you like this - You didnt like the CM7 rom even tho you couldnt wait to get it, so just go with what you know and save yourself the headache.

Wait till next year something better will come out.
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keep or sell?

Hey guys
I've been a gtab owner since January this yr, and I'm very pleased with it.
But now with the recent horde of tablets incoming I was wondering whether I should sell this now while I still can get a decent amount for it and buy either the tf pad 300 or the tab 2 - if its quad core.
Wat do u guys think?
Shall I keep my tab and wait for ics? Or sell now, and buy one of the new Samsung or Asus tablets.
Thanks
Adam
PS. This is just opinions, so no flaming please

I'm actually in the same boat, and I've decided to keep it. Unless you really want to play "demanding" games.
There's always going to be new better devices getting released, just something you have to accept.

I'll be keeping mine until the higher resolution tablets appear, especially the next Samsung one.
Then I'll pass this tablet to my girlfriend who doesn't care about such things.

Hmm yeh you've got a point. I wish Samsung would hurry up with the ics update. :L
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I'm hoping for a google branded 10-incher with 3g, which would hopefully bring more timely os updates and no annoying vendor skinning. Failing that, I'm happy enough with my (pershoot cm9) 7500 to keep it a good while longer.

the galaxy tab 2 has the same specs as this. Samsung says the hardware is still good.

Jay Rock said:
the galaxy tab 2 has the same specs as this. Samsung says the hardware is still good.
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As wat? The gtab?
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As wat? The gtab?
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Yes.

Jay Rock said:
Yes.
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I thought the tab 2 had quad core?
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I thought the tab 2 had quad core?
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Nope. Do some searching. That rumor is false. Samsung confirmed they will still keep the dual-core.

Jay Rock said:
Nope. Do some searching. That rumor is false. Samsung confirmed they will still keep the dual-core.
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Oh ok then.
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Jay Rock said:
Nope. Do some searching. That rumor is false. Samsung confirmed they will still keep the dual-core.
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But, the Tab 2's might not be all there is. There's a bunch of rumors about "Espresso" 10.1" and 7" tablets that could potentially have quad-cores and HD displays becoming Samsung's iPad fighter/premium line. A tablet may be announced at the May 3 Galaxy event in London and that should provide some clarity.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Wake...spresso-7-tablets-to-launch-this-June_id29071
For those looking at tablets, here's something to think about. They may all look the same but they aren't designed and built the same way. I've been following the Prime and while Asus represents great value there's tons of compromise in the process. Like AzureWave (vs. Broadcom) radios with no 5Ghz support, HannSpree displays riddled with dead pixels and LCD bleed, and truly questionable build quality. Here's a tear down of the Prime. You get what you pay for.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/cr...ardown-solid-tablet-but-not-without-flaws/399
To get the price down, it'll be interesting to see what types of compromises Samsung accepted with the Tab 2's.

The transformer pad 300 has been announced, £399 pounds from early may. That is tempting, quad core keyboard dock and ics for 399. :L
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But, the Tab 2's might not be all there is. There's a bunch of rumors about "Espresso" 10.1" and 7" tablets that could potentially have quad-cores and HD displays becoming Samsung's iPad fighter/premium line. A tablet may be announced at the May 3 Galaxy event in London and that should provide some clarity.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Wake...spresso-7-tablets-to-launch-this-June_id29071
For those looking at tablets, here's something to think about. They may all look the same but they aren't designed and built the same way. I've been following the Prime and while Asus represents great value there's tons of compromise in the process. Like AzureWave (vs. Broadcom) radios with no 5Ghz support, HannSpree displays riddled with dead pixels and LCD bleed, and truly questionable build quality. Here's a tear down of the Prime. You get what you pay for.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/cr...ardown-solid-tablet-but-not-without-flaws/399
To get the price down, it'll be interesting to see what types of compromises Samsung accepted with the Tab 2's.
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yeah im aware of that. I just dont understand the need for the same device re-released when there's something new already coming.

I think it's Samsung's way of selling the OS.
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I'm in the same boat too. I think I'm gonna wait for the 1920x1080 (1080p) tablets to come out from Samsung, Sony, Asus, and Acer and then decide on one of those. I hope one of them will have double the ram at that resolution or at least 1.8 - 2.0 Ghz Tegra 3 processors to push that res. They'll need it.

I'm returning this tablet, I just bought it three days ago. The lag on it kills me I already dislike touchwiz. Returning tomorrow and ordering the Asus tf300t. Plus better for less $$.
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Sarius24 said:
I'm returning this tablet, I just bought it three days ago. The lag on it kills me I already dislike touchwiz. Returning tomorrow and ordering the Asus tf300t. Plus better for less $$.
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Im getting that aswell. Put my gtab on ebay. Couldnt stand the lag and ics seems like a world away so :L
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Did I waste my money?

This tablet doesn't appear to be worth the $400 I paid for it. The tablet itself is just boring and laggy, a ton of incompatible apps and games (due to both the tab and devs)... I mean damn, this tablet is a real disappointment. What reason do I have for justifying this tab s purchase? On top of all that, Samsung really ****ed up in the tablet area.
Seriously; give me some reasons why I. Shouldn't trash this cheap and. Get something better.

And your better would be?
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kb909 said:
And your better would be?
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The ipad obviously
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Get a leap frog. My kid loves his.
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And your better would be?
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Nexus 7. Or at the time of purchase, ASUS Transformer Prime.

The tab its awesome.. Just flash cm9 and wait few days for Samsung to release the official ics to get the working camera... Ics rocks in the gtab 10.1 its a completely different product
And as soon as Samsung releases ics files and Google releases jb source we will have jb in the tab being beyond smooth...
Take it easy enjoy your tab good things are about to happen
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GazaIan said:
This tablet doesn't appear to be worth the $400 I paid for it. The tablet itself is just boring and laggy, a ton of incompatible apps and games (due to both the tab and devs)... I mean damn, this tablet is a real disappointment. What reason do I have for justifying this tab s purchase? On top of all that, Samsung really ****ed up in the tablet area.
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In the entire rant above you never once mentioned anything specific that: 1) you want to do, 2) you can't do. I use mine for streaming video from Plex and PlayOn (Hulu Plus, HBO GO) over Wi-Fi and 3G, download and watch HD movies from Google Play, read books and magazines, catch up on the news through dedicated apps and the browser, control my Google TV's with the remote app, use it navigate all over the world with CoPilot, etc., etc. That doesn't seem boring to me. Of course a newer tablet with a Teg3 processor is going to be faster. But for doing what I described above the G-Tab is more than capable. And when the ICS update is released in a couple of weeks it'll get a lot smoother too. Look at it this way, with all the tablets in the world for Apple to try and get banned they picked the G-Tab. Kind of flattering actually.
Seriously; give me some reasons why I. Shouldn't trash this cheap and. Get something better.
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Personally, I and I'm assuming others could care less what you do better you convince you to stay with a device you're clearly unhappy with.

BarryH_GEG said:
In the entire rant above you never once mentioned anything specific that: 1) you want to do, 2) you can't do. I use mine for streaming video from Plex and PlayOn (Hulu Plus, HBO GO) over Wi-Fi and 3G, download and watch HD movies from Google Play, read books and magazines, catch up on the news through dedicated apps and the browser, control my Google TV's with the remote app, use it navigate all over the world with CoPilot, etc., etc. That doesn't seem boring to me. Of course a newer tablet with a Teg3 processor is going to be faster. But for doing what I described above the G-Tab is more than capable. And when the ICS update is released in a couple of weeks it'll get a lot smoother too. Look at it this way, with all the tablets in the world for Apple to try and get banned they picked the G-Tab. Kind of flattering actually.
Personally, I and I'm assuming others could care less what you do better you convince you to stay with a device you're clearly unhappy with.
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Well said bro If you want to be limited by what fruit dictates rather get a fruit People that know better and want better get what works for them/us.
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Did I waste my money?
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Yup.

kb909 said:
And your better would be?
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The person your responding to is a troll.
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brisdaddy1207 said:
The person your responding to is a troll.
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Really? I'm a troll because I dislike this piece of **** tablet? I've been an Android user since 2008, since the dawn of the G1, but I'm a troll for disliking a product? Kill yourself. The other Android users are right; Samsung fanboys are some of the most defensive, stuck up people ever. Just because I'm a long time Android user doesn't mean I'm afraid to call out a ****ty product when I use one.
Ostrich Egg said:
Yup.
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Short and sweet answer, straight to the point and no trolling. You sir, get a free thanks.
BarryH_GEG said:
In the entire rant above you never once mentioned anything specific that: 1) you want to do, 2) you can't do. I use mine for streaming video from Plex and PlayOn (Hulu Plus, HBO GO) over Wi-Fi and 3G, download and watch HD movies from Google Play, read books and magazines, catch up on the news through dedicated apps and the browser, control my Google TV's with the remote app, use it navigate all over the world with CoPilot, etc., etc. That doesn't seem boring to me. Of course a newer tablet with a Teg3 processor is going to be faster. But for doing what I described above the G-Tab is more than capable. And when the ICS update is released in a couple of weeks it'll get a lot smoother too. Look at it this way, with all the tablets in the world for Apple to try and get banned they picked the G-Tab. Kind of flattering actually.
Personally, I and I'm assuming others could care less what you do better you convince you to stay with a device you're clearly unhappy with.
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It's not exactly about what it can and can't do, it's how it does it. Biggest problem I'm having with this is lag, the lag is ridiculous, and it's pretty funny because a lag free experience was what nVidia boasted about at the debut of Tegra 2.
msedek said:
The tab its awesome.. Just flash cm9 and wait few days for Samsung to release the official ics to get the working camera... Ics rocks in the gtab 10.1 its a completely different product
And as soon as Samsung releases ics files and Google releases jb source we will have jb in the tab being beyond smooth...
Take it easy enjoy your tab good things are about to happen
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Running CM9 right now (I LOVE Aokp on my Sensation, myTouch, Galaxy Nexus but AOKP is a bit odd on the tab, and crashy). Some apps are smooth, some are laggy as ****. egl drivers on this really suck though, it could be a lot better. Gonna wait and see how good (or how bad) ICS runs with Samsung's official drivers. If it's still awful then I'm just gonna get rid of this crap and go for a Nexus 7. ASUS actually does **** right and gets it right. That's why Google made them the official Nexus 7 manufacturer, and that's one of Google's best choices ever.

I wouldn't pay 400 for the GT today. A year ago, it was well worth it. If your problem is with apps, get the the iPad. If it's speed, get the Transformer Infinity or the Nexus 7. Simple.
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akarol said:
I wouldn't pay 400 for the GT today. A year ago, it was well worth it. If your problem is with apps, get the the iPad. If it's speed, get the Transformer Infinity or the Nexus 7. Simple.
Sent from my badass Galaxy SIII.
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I have no problem with apps at all, Google Play is amazing annd has a great selection of apps. But this tablet can't run most apps without lag, and it's ridiculous. iOS is an extremely boring and disappointing OS so any of those iCrap devices can go dig a hole and die in it. I want the Transformer Pad Infinity, but with $500+ vs $199 (and tax, shipping), with the only significant different being screen resolution... The Nexus 7 is hard to pass up. Sadly my laptop is ****ting out so I might have to pass up on the Nexus 7 for now and get a new laptop, but God damn.... You really have no idea how much I want that Nexus 7.

I'm still running HC 3.2 cause I want the camera but task650 has done a great job. I don't see any lag but some apps don't work which is a bummer, but I still don't think its a waste.

Lag has always been an issue but I've always just lived with it hoping for ICS to come out and save the day. Still waiting (have the verizon tablet and paying for mobile data so no, CM9 is not in the cards for me). Now having a One X in hand for my phone makes the GT feel even more long in the tooth but until there's another android based LTE tablet out there to jump to with better performance I'll stick it out with what I've got.

Depending on when you bought this, yes. I got this the first day it came out and for what it was, it was awesome. It was one of the first Android tabs and I've watched Android's tablet ecosystem grow. If you've passed this recently, there are way better options. I myself got a nexus 7, but there are lots of praise for the Asus infinity and people with their prime are generally happy with it. Good luck and see if you can get an exchange as the Samsung tab definitely isn't worth 400 anymore
My life for Aiur

Its definitely not the fastest thing these days but I use it non stop and it runs games, music, movies, etc. just fine for me so I have no complaints. Official ICS would be cool though.
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Hey I am an Android user since G1 too and I am looking from the same perspective.
Here is what I am going to do with this crappy Tab:
I am not going to trash it but I will keep it and hate it.
This will help me remember not to get any heavily customized interface (Touchwiz, sense ... etc) device in the future and waiting 1 year for an update then getting dropped in the second update because my device cannot handle it because of the customization.
Moral: Keep it simple and light.
Can not say install CM instead, as it is not an valid alternative. Don't take me wrong but my level of reliability I am looking for is just higher than that.

HawaiianLaker said:
I'm still running HC 3.2 cause I want the camera but task650 has done a great job. I don't see any lag but some apps don't work which is a bummer, but I still don't think its a waste.
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True, GalaxyTask ROMs are actually the best ROMs here, which I find disappointing because ICS is a lot lighter than Honeycomb ever was. Even so, apps still lag, and every browser I use crashes.
muzzy996 said:
Lag has always been an issue but I've always just lived with it hoping for ICS to come out and save the day. Still waiting (have the verizon tablet and paying for mobile data so no, CM9 is not in the cards for me). Now having a One X in hand for my phone makes the GT feel even more long in the tooth but until there's another android based LTE tablet out there to jump to with better performance I'll stick it out with what I've got.
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I have a bad feeling ICS won't save the day either. I have an even worse feeling we'll just be getting ICS after Jellybean is released.
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Depending on when you bought this, yes. I got this the first day it came out and for what it was, it was awesome. It was one of the first Android tabs and I've watched Android's tablet ecosystem grow. If you've passed this recently, there are way better options. I myself got a nexus 7, but there are lots of praise for the Asus infinity and people with their prime are generally happy with it. Good luck and see if you can get an exchange as the Samsung tab definitely isn't worth 400 anymore
My life for Aiur
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The Transformer Prime was slowly being released when I got this, but it was sold out and patience is non existent with me.
salamt said:
Hey I am an Android user since G1 too and I am looking from the same perspective.
Here is what I am going to do with this crappy Tab:
I am not going to trash it but I will keep it and hate it.
This will help me remember not to get any heavily customized interface (Touchwiz, sense ... etc) device in the future and waiting 1 year for an update then getting dropped in the second update because my device cannot handle it because of the customization.
Moral: Keep it simple and light.
Can not say install CM instead, as it is not an valid alternative. Don't take me wrong but my level of reliability I am looking for is just higher than that.
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Nexus 7 is calling your name too

Its a shame your experience is so poor with this tab. I love the galaxy tab 10.1, running honeycomb 3.2. I luckily don't experience this lag and never have. I have the US model bought on first release a year ago and I still love it today. Use it for everything these days. Music, movies, streaming all from my WD Live hub, connect to my smart tv via HDMI or wifi direct. My mate bought the galaxy tab 2 10.1 yesterday and running them side by side the tab 2 was even smoother ics is an improvement but with touchwiz looks the same as honeycomb tbh.
Maybe you should take your tab back for a refund and do more research and see if there is something more suited to your needs.
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