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sound quality of g1?

Had my g1 a few days now and have to say its brilliant!
My only gripe and its a big one is the thin tinny sound the device outputs.
I wouldn't mind more bass out of the thing if that's possible,
I can't find an equalizer in music player or settings does one exist?
I've tried market place but coundnt find anythging there either.
Anyone else think this or help?

I find the ringtone abit too quiet.. have been missing calls all weekend, not fun!!!
Coming from the Artemis, this is a very loud fone on full pelt.

I've found myself using the loudest mp3 I could find so's I can hear the phone when its in its case. Let's hope we get a solution either in an update or app?
Cheers

Tinny Sound
rodd1000 said:
Had my g1 a few days now and have to say its brilliant!
My only gripe and its a big one is the thin tinny sound the device outputs.
I wouldn't mind more bass out of the thing if that's possible,
I can't find an equalizer in music player or settings does one exist?
I've tried market place but coundnt find anythging there either.
Anyone else think this or help?
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Your correct mate sound is really tinny needs a lot more bass. There isnt a equilizer app at the mo but if i find one will post results up here!!

thanks mate, that would be great!

my solution is to increase or Amplify the mp3 using Audacity.
u can;t increase it too much cause it gets distored but u can test it until it sound decent and loud enough.
i wish they put the speak at the top or something..

Music output Quality is Pathetic.. I stand corrected please.

Load Music, connect the earphone and the output sount quality is pathetic/worse even compare to the XDA ATOM/Exec or for that matter any other WM device I owned in past. On the other side the speaker output quality is still OK. The sound through the earphone ecos..sometimeit the voice goes low and instruments are high... normally this happens when you switch on the 3D surround on other devices like samsung Innov8. But the in X1 the quality is worse.. I even took it to the sony service they reloaded the ROM a fresh but the problems still remains. IS IT THE ACCEPTED SOUND QUALITY FROM X1. How about other owners .. do they get better sound output/quality through earphone. Is there anything I am doing wrong, Kindly suggest.

really? i find the music quality more than good enough. what headphones are you using?

The Headphone quality is f*cking good!!! I havn't heard this kinda bass on my I-Mate Jam or HTC TyTN II.
One thing is correct, the quality of the original earpieces is bad.
I got ones from creative. The one that go into you're ear.
The speaker quality..... Don't talk about it. Hate it

I'm using Sennheiser CX400 earphones and the sound quality is actually better than my iPod 5g.

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jsbutran said:
Load Music, connect the earphone and the output sount quality is pathetic/worse even compare to the XDA ATOM/Exec or for that matter any other WM device I owned in past. On the other side the speaker output quality is still OK. The sound through the earphone ecos..sometimeit the voice goes low and instruments are high... normally this happens when you switch on the 3D surround on other devices like samsung Innov8. But the in X1 the quality is worse.. I even took it to the sony service they reloaded the ROM a fresh but the problems still remains. IS IT THE ACCEPTED SOUND QUALITY FROM X1. How about other owners .. do they get better sound output/quality through earphone. Is there anything I am doing wrong, Kindly suggest.
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The headphones supplied with this phone are suprisingly high quality ones. I have my own Phillips branded ones however.
Aside from the headphones, I think you issue is with the software you use. I found that WMPlayer is pretty crap when it comes to playing my favourite tracks. I use PocketPlayer and also Pocket Music, which have some very good equaliser functions. They make a big difference.

I also find the sound quality f*cking good!!
I expected the worse because it's a WM device, but it exceeded my expectations. Also using Creative ear-ins (EP-630)

I think there is a bug in the Sony Media Player software that can result in a seemingly poor quality sound output.
I've found that when opening the media player for the first time and playing a track the soundstage of the music sounds like its collapsed (lacking any high end or openess in the stereo image). If you then tap pause and then play again all of a sudden the soundstage opens out and the sound quality is very good.
Since I've turned on the "clicking" noise for screen taps, the above bug doesn't occur so often.
However, if I receive a call whilst listening to music after subsequently hanging up the bug re-appears.
Anyone else getting this?

yoboj said:
I think there is a bug in the Sony Media Player software that can result in a seemingly poor quality sound output.
I've found that when opening the media player for the first time and playing a track the soundstage of the music sounds like its collapsed (lacking any high end or openess in the stereo image). If you then tap pause and then play again all of a sudden the soundstage opens out and the sound quality is very good.
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I have this too, but I don't think the bug is mediapanel related only.
I get this when I use S2P, Wmplayer and the media panel.
Sounds almost like flat mono before I tap pause and then play again..
I don't see this as a huge bug, but it can get annoying.
It depends on the mood I'm in..

can anyone compare the speakerphone to a nokia n73 or n70?

It's definitely weaker than the N73 one.

so much so its sickening or just a tiny bit? how bad are we talking about here :S?

I was expecting this thread to be about the poor speakerphone quality.... which it is. I know of no WM phone with a good speakerphone so I wasn't expecting it to be as good as my N95's. However, music through headphone jack is as good, or perhaps even better than my N95 (not as much background hiss as the N95). I use Shure SE430's (pretty expensive earphones) and I find the music playback to be quite good. I even hook the X1 up to my Logitech Z5500 speakers through the Line-in jack and I can pretty much DJ a party with the phone and it sounds as good as if the songs were being played off my computer. (This is all through the SE Multimedia Panel btw. I get similar results with CorePlayer or Windows Media Player).
The only problem I have with the media panel is I can't receive calls with it open. That may or may not be a plus/minus to some people, but I guess it's ok. When people call me, it goes straight to voicemail. The only way I can receive calls with music playing is to go back to the today screen (with the music still going), which works out ok too, since I hold the end key to lock the phone, which brings it back to the Today screen before locking.

worst audio player?? are you kidding?
sorry, but thats definitly NOT TRUE.
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the x1 has got the best and most powerfull audio out, i`ve tested. (but not compared with n70/73)
i wrote it few days ago in the accessoires threat.
i use the Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10 Pro Inear
with 3 drivers/speakers per earpiece. (like a 3 way oldschool musik speaker)
i`ve tested my ue10pro headsets with a lot of other mp3 players and mobile phones.
but the X1 is the first player, who can unleash the power to drive the UE 10 pro to there limit....
only my sondcard a creative x-fi has got enough power to blast your ears/tympanic membrane....
the base is unbeleavable! the headset can go down to 10hz. and the high tones are crisp, sharp, clear. but a little
to soft from the middle to the highest frequency. but this could be fixed with the equalizer/audio booster.
if you set the first base frequency to +12 and the second slider to -10, you can formerly 'feel' the extreme deep bases.
you cant beleave, that you are not in a club!
don`t use the x1+ue10 for longer time on maximum power. thats very risky for your ears. trust me.
the only thing is, you have to use coreplayer and calibrate the equalizer.
or use a new custom rom (touch it hd) with integrated audio booster.
holy ****, that rulez!!
Ultimate Ears Triple.fi 10 Pro Inear (~300$-400$)
http://www.ultimateears.com/_ultimat...escription.php
these devices with othoplastic, spezially for your ears. and a laser burns your name into the headsets.
if you have 900$ bucks into your pocket, take a look at that:
http://www.ultimateears.com/_ultimat...escription.php
or 1150$? with 4 audio drivers/speaker per ear!!
http://www.ultimateears.com/_ultimat...escription.php
this is the last headset you buy! the cables are replaceble with translucent cables and iphone button.
no more broken headset cables/wires.
my advice, use coreplayer. DONT adjust the equalizer/tone faders more then 12 db.
you will be surprised.
(core is able to adjust more than 12db/slider. more then 12db will bring disharmonies and ugly subtones and crickeling)
(the audio booster could only adjust 6 db. thats not enough for xtreme bases.
but dont use in coreplayer the 2 lowest faders both to +12. thats to much base and
the headsets and the power amp will be very unprecise and roar/rumble and you run into danger to burn the headset
for good kickbase decrase the lowest fader to -3 and the second fader to +12, the 3th to +6. increase the high tones 1-4 db.
for good ultra deep base drums, set the lowest frequenzy +9 or +12, and the second one to -2, the third 0 db.

i have a ultimate ear fi 5 pro headphones with two driver lower is range then DOMin8or tri fi 10 pro. i get quite good results but not on the default player. I only use touch flo 3d in -built music player with audio booster, if you know how to set it , i guarantee you get better sound then walkman phone. i prefer bass and vocal no to be so dull. get the touch flo 3d music player set it to rock mode first then try to made this mode to v shape by just shifting the first two bar to be same as the last two bar, trust me even if you are using your default headphones, you will notice the difference

billybobjones said:
can anyone compare the speakerphone to a nokia n73 or n70?
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speaker phone n95 8gb i think is the best

try this setting on audio booster

possibly, but i will it verify by my own. for me, this is the best combo i`ve tested. and ths x1 has got exactly that power, i`ve searched for. more power will destruct my/your ears
i like this unhealthy power of X1. and at 90% power, the sound is very precise and defined.
and 90% is my personal max. and i like it loud. but 100% ? not with me. *G

audio booster has got other cross over frequencies. so my advice/hint could not used with audio booster. audio booster has a range of +-6 db. thats not as good as cores +-12db(possible +-18, but most time useless. only for spezial noise filtering. for example in microphone recordings)
the most players output power broken down, if i increased the base and at high volume.
with other players, you can formaly feel the missing amp power. (ipod nano iv suuuxxxxxx,cheap no name mp3 player,orbit,diamond,nokia 6233, creative zen v plus. but zen v was the best.(not the best menu, but good sound quali)
but now the x1 is my favorit device)
imho the x1 has got a good power amp.

im not sure will it fit everyone style but after some tunning i think this settings best for me to go for on default earphones, i have been looking for post how to optimized sound quality, here is one, hopefully more will share there experience, i bought the x1 because of the 3.5mm connector if x1 doesnt has it i wont even look up to x1!

DOMin8or said:
audio booster has got other cross over frequencies. so my advice could not used with audio booster. audio booster has a range of +-6 db. thats not as good as cores +-12db(+-18useless)
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i have a coreplayer as will DOMin8or would you post some screen shot about the 12db settings? wanna see will it rock my 5 pro

Is the sound problem hardwer or softwer issue ?

ok .. i like my x10
but i always ask about this issue is it hardwer or softwer
can any one help .. .
thx

software issue

When you say sound do you mean call sound and the Mic picking up lots of background noise? That seems to be a big thing for me and its quite bothersome
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

The sound on mine is horrible too. I really hope it is software but I have a hard time seeing that being true.
I always get told how bad it sounds when I talk to people on it, sounds fuzzy apparently and I always have a hard time hearing people some times.
Please be software!

i mean by sound of the x10
te general sound
for me i care about the headphone or when i use the phone aux with my car
and ply some music the sound is low .. to low
even when i walk around with earjaks .. i can hear everything around even if the level is the most ....
so i hope its softwer thing

Yeah that is also a bad feature of the phone. You'd think Sony would have tried to incorporate their Walkman expertise in this.. but yet Walkman isn't even a name anymore. Just forgotten.
Also if you put the volume too high it gets crackily.

The problem can be either software or hardware. If the DAC they have has terrible resolution or their algorithm for sound isn't up to the task the sound will be bad. Or even under-driving the speakers.
But anyway, I've noticed the in-call speaker for the x10 is very directional, meaning it doesn't let sound radiate out from what I can tell. This might sound silly, but it worked/works for me, just slide the phone around on your ear a bit until you find a "sweet spot" that maximizes the sound.
Mine was relatively low before but now I can hear pretty well. With that said the volume is still pretty low regardless.
EDIT: The x10 uses a separate speaker for audio while not in call, its located at the top left side of the phone. This speaker probably suffers from the same problem as the other one. Except this one is made to radiate.

Sound too quiet, try this.

Hi all,
I've always felt that when playing music on my DHD that it's too quiet, when I've listened to music through my headphones I would say it's acceptable however when I've plugged my DHD into a HiFi or into my stereo in my car I could crank the volume to full control without it been deafening. I happen to find a fix yesterday by accident, I had my DHD plugged into my car stereo and the phone rang, I pulled the audio cable out and answered the phone, when I was done I put the cable back in and immediately I was like WTF just happened now, the music was much louder than what it was before I answered the phone, I would say it was about 30% louder.
I tested my theory by stopping the music and unplugging the cable, plugged the cable back in and started the music, while it was playing I opened the phone and simply dialled any random number and ended the call immediately, when it went back to the music it was most certainly much louder. I've tried it several times now and every time it makes it much louder than what it was before I make a call, I can now no longer turn the stereo full blast as it is simply too loud, just by turning it up to half way I would say it's the equivalent of what it was before when I had it turned up to the maximum.
I'm using Poweramp and I don't know if it's got anything to do with that, I will test it with the built in music player and see what it does. I originally downloaded Poweramp as I thought that the built in music player may be the problem.

i'll repet what you do and post some results... really want a louder volumen in headphones. I plugged my headphone in a Wildfire and it's incredible louder, no talking about an ipod! last week in a party i was ashamed when my friend put off his $50 cell phone and i plugged mine on stereo, so low volume....

wtf, that's true.. really don't understand what the phone turns on!! probably the same thing that volume boost turns on!!

Aha that actually works
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

thiagodark said:
wtf, that's true.. really don't understand what the phone turns on!! probably the same thing that volume boost turns on!!
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Good news, it must be a software bug with the volume control.

works here too.. atleast on poweramp and soundcloud, didnt hear any difference on spotify

MarkieSA said:
Good news, it must be a software bug with the volume control.
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let's hope someone let this bug permanently turned on, with no call trick...

Haha! Tried it myself, and it works! Awesome!

I found using shazzam or sound hound while music was playing caused it to go louder. Seems to be when the mic is initialised. Noticed this two days ago
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Interesting find.
I've noticed a couple of ROMS which suggest better audio volume by 20%.
For example this one. (Speaker Boost +20%)
So somehow, somewhere the bug or issue has been fixed or improved.

Grant Barker said:
Interesting find.
I've noticed a couple of ROMS which suggest better audio volume by 20%.
For example this one. (Speaker Boost +20%)
So somehow, somewhere the bug or issue has been fixed or improved.
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Not really, i'm using that rom right now, and what it makes is improve SPEAKER volume, not from headphone. I made my tests in Android Revolution rom and can confirm that headphone is as quiet as stock rom, and it is improved by the "call trick"!

Thanks for sharing! I was experimenting a bit, and it seems like the simplest way to boost the volume is to make a call while music is already playing. The call MUST connect though, or the volume will revert to normal levels. Tested with Winamp.

Maybe have one of the dev's ask to look into this.
If this is different from the already increased speaker volume output, it probably is a bug that can be fixed / feature that can be 'un-featured'

works fine

I had similar experience with my laptop. When listening a mp3 file, the sound coming out from my laptop seems like no effects, standard sound without bass and treble effect. Have to play a movie file first together and stop the.movie make the song hear with the effect.
I believe this issue coming from my sound driver. Using another OS in same laptop. The sound play normally with no issue.
For our Android, it's about the sound driver too?

well well, i just noticed that in the Android Revolution 4 (leaked gingerbread based), the sound is improved by default, no needing the call workaround, looks like HTC fixed the strange bug for the next version...
i just wanted to share!
edit: if someone could try to confirm it, i'll appreciate! =o)

sound problem
hey guys i'm new to this forum, i would appreciate if anyone could help me..
my DHD tones(just keyboard sound, lock sound, shutter sound) have came very low and i can burly hear it.. i turned all the volumes to the max but it's still very low, can anyone help me with that?

indramino said:
hey guys i'm new to this forum, i would appreciate if anyone could help me..
my DHD tones(just keyboard sound, lock sound, shutter sound) have came very low and i can burly hear it.. i turned all the volumes to the max but it's still very low, can anyone help me with that?
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I had the same problem, go to the Market and download "Volume Ace".

MarkieSA, you're an accident hero.
I noticed sometimes my DHD volume suddenly were loud . If I restart the phone, it will go low . I couldn't find out how to make it loud again until reading your post. I'm using PowerAmp too . I think it plays a role in this case.
Thank you for this great finding.

Really useful little trick for 2.2 users, especially for peeps using stock ROM's without the 20% boost via custom kernels. I had tried some of the volume boost type apps before rooting but all they do is invert the phase of one of the stereo channels. All this does is give you a very tinny mono output which is no use to say the least.

Sound Issue While Using SRS, Dolbly, or Equilizer

Hi,
I just got my Desire HD yesterday and I love it so far and I am running the Android Revolution HD 3.5.
I have one issue though, when I have no music playing and I hit the play button with SRS, Dolby, or Equilized there is a loud 'click with base' noise right before the song starts, it almost sounds like I plug in the headphones into the jack and there is some electrical 'boom' , something similar to what you hear if you plug in a guitar with the amplifier on, if you understand.
It is really annoying as it happens evertime i pause a song and then start it again, note this only happens when I have the enhancements on, not on regular setting.
Using Bose Around Ear headphones.
Thanks

I know what you are mean ...
i had that problem too, but at this time i haven't it..
with the htc headphones it clicks but with the one i have now there is no problem

So you are saying that it might be the headphones?
Which ones are you using now, what fixed it for you?
Thanks for your reply!
BTW, if I use something like WinAMP would it go away?

Can anybody actually get good quality music from their DHD??
I have some rather expensive earphones which sound superb through PC, iPhone and iPod, plugged in the DHD, the volume is rather poor and the quality at louder volume suffers, I'm assuming this is down to poor hardware rather than software as I've tried several music players and I'm using lossless media.
Anybody managed to get near-iPod like quality music from their device?

Alize said:
Can anybody actually get good quality music from their DHD??
I have some rather expensive earphones which sound superb through PC, iPhone and iPod, plugged in the DHD, the volume is rather poor and the quality at louder volume suffers, I'm assuming this is down to poor hardware rather than software as I've tried several music players and I'm using lossless media.
Anybody managed to get near-iPod like quality music from their device?
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I have to say that I am happy with the sound. I have noticed the issue to my problem though, as i paus the song, the phone tend to turn off the sound enhancements after few seconds and the sound that is really annoying is when it turns back on after that, so is there any hack to not allow it to turn off?

Alize said:
Can anybody actually get good quality music from their DHD??
I have some rather expensive earphones which sound superb through PC, iPhone and iPod, plugged in the DHD, the volume is rather poor and the quality at louder volume suffers, I'm assuming this is down to poor hardware rather than software as I've tried several music players and I'm using lossless media.
Anybody managed to get near-iPod like quality music from their device?
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Try CM7 with the snd3254 dspmode hack ... its much better

srikanth.naidu said:
Try CM7 with the snd3254 dspmode hack ... its much better
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I tried CM7 but it just felt unpolished for some reason and I just want stock stock 2.3 if im gonna make the change, just got the phone so want to get tired of Sense first.
Mixzing app had an equilizer that worked perfect, not the greatest looking app thats around but it works.
I still cant figure out the problem with the regular Dolby stuff, really annoying, I mean its not a cheap phone.