Hi all,
I've always felt that when playing music on my DHD that it's too quiet, when I've listened to music through my headphones I would say it's acceptable however when I've plugged my DHD into a HiFi or into my stereo in my car I could crank the volume to full control without it been deafening. I happen to find a fix yesterday by accident, I had my DHD plugged into my car stereo and the phone rang, I pulled the audio cable out and answered the phone, when I was done I put the cable back in and immediately I was like WTF just happened now, the music was much louder than what it was before I answered the phone, I would say it was about 30% louder.
I tested my theory by stopping the music and unplugging the cable, plugged the cable back in and started the music, while it was playing I opened the phone and simply dialled any random number and ended the call immediately, when it went back to the music it was most certainly much louder. I've tried it several times now and every time it makes it much louder than what it was before I make a call, I can now no longer turn the stereo full blast as it is simply too loud, just by turning it up to half way I would say it's the equivalent of what it was before when I had it turned up to the maximum.
I'm using Poweramp and I don't know if it's got anything to do with that, I will test it with the built in music player and see what it does. I originally downloaded Poweramp as I thought that the built in music player may be the problem.
i'll repet what you do and post some results... really want a louder volumen in headphones. I plugged my headphone in a Wildfire and it's incredible louder, no talking about an ipod! last week in a party i was ashamed when my friend put off his $50 cell phone and i plugged mine on stereo, so low volume....
wtf, that's true.. really don't understand what the phone turns on!! probably the same thing that volume boost turns on!!
Aha that actually works
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thiagodark said:
wtf, that's true.. really don't understand what the phone turns on!! probably the same thing that volume boost turns on!!
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Good news, it must be a software bug with the volume control.
works here too.. atleast on poweramp and soundcloud, didnt hear any difference on spotify
MarkieSA said:
Good news, it must be a software bug with the volume control.
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let's hope someone let this bug permanently turned on, with no call trick...
Haha! Tried it myself, and it works! Awesome!
I found using shazzam or sound hound while music was playing caused it to go louder. Seems to be when the mic is initialised. Noticed this two days ago
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Interesting find.
I've noticed a couple of ROMS which suggest better audio volume by 20%.
For example this one. (Speaker Boost +20%)
So somehow, somewhere the bug or issue has been fixed or improved.
Grant Barker said:
Interesting find.
I've noticed a couple of ROMS which suggest better audio volume by 20%.
For example this one. (Speaker Boost +20%)
So somehow, somewhere the bug or issue has been fixed or improved.
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Not really, i'm using that rom right now, and what it makes is improve SPEAKER volume, not from headphone. I made my tests in Android Revolution rom and can confirm that headphone is as quiet as stock rom, and it is improved by the "call trick"!
Thanks for sharing! I was experimenting a bit, and it seems like the simplest way to boost the volume is to make a call while music is already playing. The call MUST connect though, or the volume will revert to normal levels. Tested with Winamp.
Maybe have one of the dev's ask to look into this.
If this is different from the already increased speaker volume output, it probably is a bug that can be fixed / feature that can be 'un-featured'
works fine
I had similar experience with my laptop. When listening a mp3 file, the sound coming out from my laptop seems like no effects, standard sound without bass and treble effect. Have to play a movie file first together and stop the.movie make the song hear with the effect.
I believe this issue coming from my sound driver. Using another OS in same laptop. The sound play normally with no issue.
For our Android, it's about the sound driver too?
well well, i just noticed that in the Android Revolution 4 (leaked gingerbread based), the sound is improved by default, no needing the call workaround, looks like HTC fixed the strange bug for the next version...
i just wanted to share!
edit: if someone could try to confirm it, i'll appreciate! =o)
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hey guys i'm new to this forum, i would appreciate if anyone could help me..
my DHD tones(just keyboard sound, lock sound, shutter sound) have came very low and i can burly hear it.. i turned all the volumes to the max but it's still very low, can anyone help me with that?
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hey guys i'm new to this forum, i would appreciate if anyone could help me..
my DHD tones(just keyboard sound, lock sound, shutter sound) have came very low and i can burly hear it.. i turned all the volumes to the max but it's still very low, can anyone help me with that?
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I had the same problem, go to the Market and download "Volume Ace".
MarkieSA, you're an accident hero.
I noticed sometimes my DHD volume suddenly were loud . If I restart the phone, it will go low . I couldn't find out how to make it loud again until reading your post. I'm using PowerAmp too . I think it plays a role in this case.
Thank you for this great finding.
Really useful little trick for 2.2 users, especially for peeps using stock ROM's without the 20% boost via custom kernels. I had tried some of the volume boost type apps before rooting but all they do is invert the phase of one of the stereo channels. All this does is give you a very tinny mono output which is no use to say the least.
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Hi, Just got my HTC HD2 after a break from HTC handsets.
I've noticed when listening to music, even when turned up max, the music is quite quiet.
I've tried the audio booster but that seems to just do bass, vocal etc. not the overall volume.
On my old Omnia I had the same issue, but you could run SoundTester.exe and manually increase the db's.
But I don't seem to have that on the HD2.
Any ideas how to make the music louder? I mean walking past traffic & the music is easily drowned out.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
searh for srs wow in the apps section of this xda hd2 forum.
and if you are a junglist check out ukbreakbeat.com
Maybe its the headphones? I have a set of fontopia headphones and on full volume it is properly painful.
Yeah my sennies get hilariously loud on full whack, suggest noise isolating as opposed to simple in ear. Once I got the correct sized ear adapter on em, even the tube cant intrude on my tunes
I'll check out srs wow thanks.
I'm using a set of Sony MDR-XD200 headphones at the moment, as I wasn't a fan of the standard HTC ones. They've been ok with other handsets & MP3 players (Except the omnia which had this problem too).
This guy gotta be deaf lol
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This guy gotta be deaf lol
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what was that...?
lol, no it was definetly quiet, alot more than it should be.
Do you remember on some of the old custom roms (I had one on my p3600) the audio broke and was really quiet, that is what this seems like.
But the SRS WOW has just about done the job, thanks
You know on normal windows mobile you can click on the speaker at the top and adjust ringing volume & device volume, I can't do that on the HD2, I can use the volume keys on the side, but that just does 1 generic volume, I was wondering if the device volume was set low, but I can't check it.
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You know on normal windows mobile you can click on the speaker at the top and adjust ringing volume & device volume, I can't do that on the HD2, I can use the volume keys on the side, but that just does 1 generic volume, I was wondering if the device volume was set low, but I can't check it.
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Settings tab, sound and display, the 2 volumes are there and a switch to link them or not.
Audio Oblivion said:
searh for srs wow in the apps section of this xda hd2 forum.
and if you are a junglist check out ukbreakbeat.com
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is that a flash site? doesnt load on hd2. is it dnb or nuskool breaks? my pc is dead so i cant check it
I'd say he needs some better headphones with higher impedence. I have Sennheisers and they are very very loud but then they are 70 Ohms
The only problem I have with my HTC HD2 as a music player is probably going to sound pretty minor. I have a set of Sennheisser in ear buds that I love and used to use on an iPod Touch. At it's loudest, the volume is a bit much for me usually, but the bar just below it I find isn't loud enough. Picky, I know, but it just seems like a big leap between volume levels. Is there any way of helping this?
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I'd say he needs some better headphones with higher impedence. I have Sennheisers and they are very very loud but then they are 70 Ohms
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Yep I have some too, dug them out last night to give them ago, no better really.
So I've tried Sennheiser Eco Ear Canal, Sony MDR-XD200 & the standard HTC ones packaged with the HD2.
All are too quiet, it's not my hearing, tried them all on the Omnia & they are deafening, also with the HD2 I can hear other stuff going on around me, cars, walking on gravel etc. Very strange others are not having this issue.
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Settings tab, sound and display, the 2 volumes are there and a switch to link them or not.
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Thanks! Yeah, unfortunately they were both on 100%
I have akg 321 in-ear buds, before that akg 315 normal style, I haven't experienced any volume problems with music.
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The only problem I have with my HTC HD2 as a music player is probably going to sound pretty minor. I have a set of Sennheisser in ear buds that I love and used to use on an iPod Touch. At it's loudest, the volume is a bit much for me usually, but the bar just below it I find isn't loud enough. Picky, I know, but it just seems like a big leap between volume levels. Is there any way of helping this?
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I had this issue. If you go to the volume screen that appears when you press the side volume buttons you can adjust the system volume by touching the bars to get gradual and precise volume increase/decrease. Using the toggle buttons makes it jump too much, stupid design imo.
Also the music player should have it's OWN volume control, instead it adjusts the entire system volume, again a ridiculous design flaw IMO also the volume graphic in the music player dissapears sometimes in rom 1.44, can't comment on other roms. I've had 2 HD2's and both have done the same thing.
Getting back to Junglist: I think you have a hardware issue mate, the full volume on this unit is very loud and even louder when used with audio booster. No one else has this problem. I use the sennheiser (spelling!) cx300's awesome headphones, and cheap
Talking of Audio booster again, in conjunction with the music player it is excellent, it handles the frequencies very well compared to say coreplayers eq that end up distorting the headphones with even minor bass frequency boosting. Using coreplayers pre amp is pointless also, complete distortion and hard to control, not very finger friendly.
It's such a shame about the Audio Booster switching itself off when jumping tracks even when it is left running in the background, it's only use therefore, is listening to long mixes. Too much of a pain to keep switching it back on after individual tracks You also have to switch it back on if you pause music and navigate away for a bit.
I hope HTC are aware of this and fix it in the next firmware update
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is that a flash site? doesnt load on hd2. is it dnb or nuskool breaks? my pc is dead so i cant check it
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its a flash site yes... best to check it out on a pc tbh...
both dnb and dubstep are represented by this record label.
check out the music... there are links on their site to their soundcloud and myspace.
the website itself is sick! check out the spacialiser!!!
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its a flash site yes... best to check it out on a pc tbh...
both dnb and dubstep are represented by this record label.
check out the music... there are links on their site to their soundcloud and myspace.
the website itself is sick! check out the spacialiser!!!
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Will do, not a fan of dubstep but i used to play dnb, i make/dj breaks/nu skool breaks now, you into that?
check my tracks/remixes and mixes @:
www.soundcloud.com/billvega
can't beat a bit of self promotion, totally off topic, sorry!
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It's such a shame about the Audio Booster switching itself off when jumping tracks even when it is left running in the background, it's only use therefore, is listening to long mixes. Too much of a pain to keep switching it back on after individual tracks You also have to switch it back on if you pause music and navigate away for a bit.
I hope HTC are aware of this and fix it in the next firmware update
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From the sticky at the top of this forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
25. Allow Audio Booster to Stay On.
Notice how after every song Audio Booster turns off again? A very simple solution is to press the Home button and not the "Done" softkey. This keeps Audio Booster running.
58. Keep Audio Booster Running After Each Song
Another way to keep Audio Booster running while playing music is to use the following reg tweak:
HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config\enter_su spend and change 1 to 0
Although I have left the booster off and the volume no higher than 85% as with my Sennheiser HD-25 professional monitoring/DJ headphones on its too loud above these settings. With other headphones I have tried I agree its a bit quiet but not too bad. Maybe you have deafened yourself by having your music too loud
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From the sticky at the top of this forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
25. Allow Audio Booster to Stay On.
Notice how after every song Audio Booster turns off again? A very simple solution is to press the Home button and not the "Done" softkey. This keeps Audio Booster running.
58. Keep Audio Booster Running After Each Song
Another way to keep Audio Booster running while playing music is to use the following reg tweak:
HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config\enter_su spend and change 1 to 0
Although I have left the booster off and the volume no higher than 85% as with my Sennheiser HD-25 professional monitoring/DJ headphones on its too loud above these settings. With other headphones I have tried I agree its a bit quiet but not too bad. Maybe you have deafened yourself by having your music too loud
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Thanks mate but i know about them. The tweaks don't work
even when audiobooster is still in the background (and dutty's task manager says so) it still doesn't work. Sometimes it does though, it's a bit random.
It certainly doesn't work if you pause the music and come back to it
Tried Nitrogen? I downloaded the other day but its still sat on my sd card
hi everybody i love my legend but i'm really disappointed with this issue: even at the minimum, the volume is too loud too listen it with hearphones...
Is there an app to fix it?
Trying another rom could fix it?
Thk you
Got same issue
logoo said:
hi everybody i love my legend but i'm really disappointed with this issue: even at the minimum, the volume is too loud too listen it with hearphones...
Is there an app to fix it?
Trying another rom could fix it?
Thk you
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Hey, I agree with what you've said above. I have the same issue. Please note that I have no direct solution for you, but the work around is this:
Use a different set of headphones. I have three sets I use.
1) pair of ear buds that came with the legend - these are fine when I turn the volume down low
2) Phillips SHS3201 - these are basic ""over the ear" hook style ear buds. volume is fine if I turn it down between first second "notches".
3) Monster Audio Turbine ear buds - foam sealing passive noise canceling. These are too loud even at the lowest setting. I think they have powerful drivers that simply boost the sound and foam fittings that drive the sound into my ear canal. Though they sound great, I can't really use them because they are too loud on the phone.
Are you using a high quality or "foam sealing" headphone?
That being said, I'm interested if anyone else knows how to adjust this!
Thanks.
Thk you for your reply I've not found a real solution but you're right i think i'm gonna buy earphones with external volume adjustement because even with the original legend ones, it's too loud
There is another way to fix it but i don't like it.. You can change de volume of your mp3's by using mp3 gain (freeware). The volume is better but if you want to connect the legend to a loudspeaker, you realise that the sound has unfortunately a very limited volume...
I am interested in this as well. I have tried the Music Player with EQ platinum (by changing left and right channel to output lower volume) but it kills the CPU. If you view photos while listening to music, you might not hear any music anymore.
Same here. It gets very annoying when the phone rings while I'm listening to things on my earphone - it hurts my ear everytime. (I have ringer set to max volume, which seems to make the ring tone play at max volume through earphone as well. I can barely stand min volume as it is.)
I've already rooted my phone - I guess changing the audiopara files should do the trick. Can anyone tell me how to understand those files?
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I am using j-jays intra earphones and the Legend really disappoint me about the sound quality (volume setting).
So I tried to set EQ as down as possible... what there is no EQ on Android's music player? f****!
Finally I have found and used Astro Player beta on the market, wich is not very good-looking but has a complet EQ.
And an other problem about Legend sound quality appears: the sound in noisy at low volume!!!
Ok let's hope a flash will correct the problem. For the moment I am using my Sansa clip+ to hear the music in my bed and my legend with RockPlayer to watch movies in my bed
Volume issue Android
I've been having an issue with the volume being too loud when streaming music via pandora or last.fm
To check to make sure we are all having the same problem, follow these steps and report back.
1. Play media (music) w/ headphones
2. Turn off silent mode
3. Go to Settings/Volume
4. Edit the volume of the ringer (it will play a test sound)
5. Accept changes...
Now, did the volume go down on the media so it's nice and quite? If so, how long does it last? I know this works for me for the rest of my current song, but as soon as another one starts it's back up to crazy loud volume (even when the media volume is set to smallest amount).
I have also downloaded a 3rd party volume control app, but the same thing happens. Please give this a shot and let us know what happened!
I have found a possible flaw in the design of the phone that might be possible to fix.
The earphone speaker loudness is crap its not even considered loud or above hearing when im listning to music i can hear everyone talking ect ect
now here is the weird thing see if you answer a call or make a call the music cuts off and you have your chat then once you hang up or they hang up
music will then resume but this time it will be WAY WAY better and Sound better and louder, the way its ment to sound.
now if you pause the music then unpause it goes back to this low sounding music again.
PLEASE can someone fix this as its ruining my music listning though i dunno about the rest of you lol
I'm running 3.1 and having no issues at all with headset volume while listening to music. Tried to pause and unpause, volume stayed the same, nice and loud. FM radio has nice loud volume too.
I have the same strange issue... at first I cleaned my in ear headphones (because on 2.9.11 they were louder)
but at the same day in noticed the sound improvement after ending up a call and was very confused :S
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try an full wipe an install ARVHD 3.2 maybe it fix your issue
it's a known issue in froyo based roms (stock included), gingerbread released is free of it, and you can buy a app from the market "volume boost", that "fix" it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991726
Hi,
I just got my Desire HD yesterday and I love it so far and I am running the Android Revolution HD 3.5.
I have one issue though, when I have no music playing and I hit the play button with SRS, Dolby, or Equilized there is a loud 'click with base' noise right before the song starts, it almost sounds like I plug in the headphones into the jack and there is some electrical 'boom' , something similar to what you hear if you plug in a guitar with the amplifier on, if you understand.
It is really annoying as it happens evertime i pause a song and then start it again, note this only happens when I have the enhancements on, not on regular setting.
Using Bose Around Ear headphones.
Thanks
I know what you are mean ...
i had that problem too, but at this time i haven't it..
with the htc headphones it clicks but with the one i have now there is no problem
So you are saying that it might be the headphones?
Which ones are you using now, what fixed it for you?
Thanks for your reply!
BTW, if I use something like WinAMP would it go away?
Can anybody actually get good quality music from their DHD??
I have some rather expensive earphones which sound superb through PC, iPhone and iPod, plugged in the DHD, the volume is rather poor and the quality at louder volume suffers, I'm assuming this is down to poor hardware rather than software as I've tried several music players and I'm using lossless media.
Anybody managed to get near-iPod like quality music from their device?
Alize said:
Can anybody actually get good quality music from their DHD??
I have some rather expensive earphones which sound superb through PC, iPhone and iPod, plugged in the DHD, the volume is rather poor and the quality at louder volume suffers, I'm assuming this is down to poor hardware rather than software as I've tried several music players and I'm using lossless media.
Anybody managed to get near-iPod like quality music from their device?
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I have to say that I am happy with the sound. I have noticed the issue to my problem though, as i paus the song, the phone tend to turn off the sound enhancements after few seconds and the sound that is really annoying is when it turns back on after that, so is there any hack to not allow it to turn off?
Alize said:
Can anybody actually get good quality music from their DHD??
I have some rather expensive earphones which sound superb through PC, iPhone and iPod, plugged in the DHD, the volume is rather poor and the quality at louder volume suffers, I'm assuming this is down to poor hardware rather than software as I've tried several music players and I'm using lossless media.
Anybody managed to get near-iPod like quality music from their device?
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Try CM7 with the snd3254 dspmode hack ... its much better
srikanth.naidu said:
Try CM7 with the snd3254 dspmode hack ... its much better
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I tried CM7 but it just felt unpolished for some reason and I just want stock stock 2.3 if im gonna make the change, just got the phone so want to get tired of Sense first.
Mixzing app had an equilizer that worked perfect, not the greatest looking app thats around but it works.
I still cant figure out the problem with the regular Dolby stuff, really annoying, I mean its not a cheap phone.
<<SOLVED>> The moto G Opamp is not very efficient. It struggles to go down to 2Ohm stable. This means average earbud type headphones rated at 16Ohms. will have hiss and other artifacts. Higher impedance headphones. 40-70Ohms have much better sq. Much above 70Ohms and I suspect the Moto G won't be powerful enough to drive them.... so, that's the sweet spot!
Hey,
Since I updated to kitkta4.4.2 I notice there is a significant background hiss listening with headphones.
As soon as you use an app that activates the audio jack the hiss kicks in, it is constant, not volume dependent. If you turn the volume down to zero, but the app keeps the sound output active the hiss remains.
when the app is closed, the hiss abruptly stops (presumably when the sound API deactivates the inbuilt opamp to save battery)
I'm about 90% sure this wasn't present under 4.3 or was far less noticeable.
I'm not being picky either, this is bad enough that it would make using the phone as a walkman at a low or moderate volume unpleasant. From experience I'd estimate the hiss at approx -20dB.. this is similar to the hiss you would hear from your average desktop PC fan at idle under your desk..
can anyone test this too, on 4.3 and 4.4.2?
Oh, and use earbud headphones or good closed cup ones. Open phones, unless you are somewhere very quiet won't give a good idea of the hiss..
thanks
Can confirm this on 4.4.2, too bad I didn't see your post before updating, as I don't really remember how it was on 4.3 :/
You don't actually have to use earphones, it's noticeable through the speaker, too (well I'm in my room alone and I put my ear close to it). However, I wouldn't say it's very significant - when using earphones I can hear it when muted, on the 1st bar after mute; on the 2nd you can't really say if you hear it or is it your imagination; and on the 3rd bar it's unnoticeable.
I can't notice any hiss in 4.3, even if I use a headphone amp. No clicking sounds either when the opamp turns on.
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I can't notice any hiss in 4.3, even if I use a headphone amp. No clicking sounds either when the opamp turns on.
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this is what I was worried about. I didnt notice any hiss before either, and I had it connected to a car stereo so would amplify the issue (if it was there).
maybe something did change in the audio settings/drivers then. I have already tried dissablying all the dsp stuff with no luck, still the hiss and click when the opamp switches on/off.
Maybe it was there before though, and it's bad luck with the phone, rather than the OS version.
I have got UK Retail 4.4.2 and I have tried to replicate this. I have tried YouTube, Spotify Play Music and TuneIn. I do not experience a hiss!
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I can't notice any hiss in 4.3, even if I use a headphone amp. No clicking sounds either when the opamp turns on.
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I have got UK Retail 4.4.2 and I have tried to replicate this. I have tried YouTube, Spotify Play Music and TuneIn. I do not experience a hiss!
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Under 4.3 to save battery I disabled apps I wasn't using, including the Audio Effects app, and google play. When you disable them it forces you to 'uninstall updates' which I didnt realise at the time, but I think may have been specific to the moto g, as you cannot redownload them from playstore, or update them.
Would someone be so kind as to upload the FULL apk of their google play and and Sound Effects, from their stock 4.4.2 build?
Im pretty sure this is down to the software API that activates the opamp. (as it is very distinct), it even happens when you activate audio by using the rocker to increase the ringtone volume!?!?!???
It sounds like listening to a really cheap mp3 player with a low S/N ratio...
** edit I mean 'Play Music' not 'google play'
Hi,
I actually just registered to say this was very much present on my moto g on android 4.3 and is still the same on KitKat. It definitely sounds like a cheap mp3 player. Does anyone know of a fix?
Thanks
helppme said:
Hey,
Since I updated to kitkta4.4.2 I notice there is a significant background hiss listening with headphones.
As soon as you use an app that activates the audio jack the hiss kicks in, it is constant, not volume dependent. If you turn the volume down to zero, but the app keeps the sound output active the hiss remains.
when the app is closed, the hiss abruptly stops (presumably when the sound API deactivates the inbuilt opamp to save battery)
I'm about 90% sure this wasn't present under 4.3 or was far less noticeable.
I'm not being picky either, this is bad enough that it would make using the phone as a walkman at a low or moderate volume unpleasant. From experience I'd estimate the hiss at approx -20dB.. this is similar to the hiss you would hear from your average desktop PC fan at idle under your desk..
can anyone test this too, on 4.3 and 4.4.2?
Oh, and use earbud headphones or good closed cup ones. Open phones, unless you are somewhere very quiet won't give a good idea of the hiss..
thanks
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Hi,
I actually just registered to say this was very much present on my moto g on android 4.3 and is still the same on KitKat. It definitely sounds like a cheap mp3 player. Does anyone know of a fix?
Thanks
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Now this is getting weird. I think I'll install the ota to see how mine behaves. The G's audio quality decent enough imo. Probably above Android smartphone average. But what I like the most is that it's 100% silent, regardless of the volume setting, headphones or the amp.
Having said that, I will still get a USB DAC solution for it, which luckily has native support on both stock ROMs.
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Now this is getting weird. I think I'll install the ota to see how mine behaves. The G's audio quality decent enough imo. Probably above Android smartphone average. But what I like the most is that it's 100% silent, regardless of the volume setting, headphones or the amp.
Having said that, I will still get a USB DAC solution for it, which luckily has native support on both stock ROMs.
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Is there anyway to update the phone without wifi ?? ...my friend as unlimited data but no wifi and she really wants to update ?
boe323 said:
Is there anyway to update the phone without wifi ?? ...my friend as unlimited data but no wifi and she really wants to update ?
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I don't see how this is on-topic, but of course, you can download the update either on Wi-Fi or mobile data.
I don't know what you mean with "hiss", but since I updated mine (today - uk), i have started to notice some "clicks" in musics, that i didn't have before.
I was using PlayerPro, turned off the equalizer, uninstalled and reinstalled it again, and it was solved.
Google music, had no issues.
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I don't know what you mean with "hiss", but since I updated mine (today - uk), i have started to notice some "clicks" in musics, that i didn't have before.
I was using PlayerPro, turned off the equalizer, uninstalled and reinstalled it again, and it was solved.
Google music, had no issues.
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by hiss, I mean hiss. It is probably around 18KHz, and is similar tot he sound of RF interference on a stereo (alsmost like the snow screen sound on a tv).
It is not volume dependent so it is defenitely downstream from the DAC, and must be the opamp or downsteram from the opamp in the phone. It is most likely from a poor ground some where in the audio path (assuming the opamp isn't awful, anyone know the chip?). It could be due to the single board set up of the Moto G mainboard design. I'm guessing here, but if the PCB has the audio channel close to any of the ground of power channels, this would explain my hiss. If it is built to tight tollerance, this could also explain why some people have it, others don't.
In laymans terms, I'm saying the audio signal is 'dirty. If anyone has every used a PC with crappy audio on the motherboard, they will know exactly what this problem is like. When no program is using the audio driver, the board puts the audio to 'sleep', when you open a program that uses that audio driver, the audio wakes up and you get some hiss, noise through the audio and pc speakers. This is exactly what I experience with my moto G.
if im honest, it's unlistenable, however I'm a bit of an audiophile so I can appreciate for most people they won't see it as a problem..
helppme said:
if im honest, it's unlistenable, however I'm a bit of an audiophile so I can appreciate for most people they won't see it as a problem..
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I found 4.3 to already be noisy with the hiss when using my earphones, which have a low attenuation and so even low volumes sound loud on them. To get around this problem I bought an attenuator which connects between the phone and the earphones. Then I set the phone audio to maximum, and reduced the volume using the attenuator. Setting the phone audio to loud means the hiss volume is low compared to the volume of the sound coming out of the phone.
This is the attenuator I use:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008EWP07E
RickPinto said:
I don't know what you mean with "hiss", but since I updated mine (today - uk), i have started to notice some "clicks" in musics, that i didn't have before.
I was using PlayerPro, turned off the equalizer, uninstalled and reinstalled it again, and it was solved.
Google music, had no issues.
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superusr said:
I found 4.3 to already be noisy with the hiss when using my earphones, which have a low attenuation and so even low volumes sound loud on them. To get around this problem I bought an attenuator which connects between the phone and the earphones. Then I set the phone audio to maximum, and reduced the volume using the attenuator. Setting the phone audio to loud means the hiss volume is low compared to the volume of the sound coming out of the phone.
This is the attenuator I use:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008EWP07E
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this is a possibility, but its not ideal... sadly this is looking like a hardware issue not a software one though as if it was software, I'd expect it to be upstream of the opamp. The fact your attenuator solution works, is more evidence this is a downstream issue . (as implification induced noise increases with the square of the volume (assuming a logarithmic volume scale))
I'm on 4.4. I notice a slight hiss when music is coming out of the phones speaker, though its completely undetectable if the phone is at around half volume. No hiss when coming through headphones.
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Ravinxx said:
I'm on 4.4. I notice a slight hiss when music is coming out of the phones speaker, though its completely undetectable if the phone is at around half volume. No hiss when coming through headphones.
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Please can you test something, with some sensitive in ear headphones (or in a quiet room if they are normal headphones.)
>Connect headphones to phone
>Make sure ALL apps are closed.
>turn the phones ring volume to zero
>you should hear silence.(regardless of what headphone volume is)
>On the home screen, Press the Up volume rocker 3 times quite quickly.
>On my phone, the headphones go from silent to Hiss, then I hear the 'Beep'.....'Beep' of the volume increase on top of the hiss. Wait 2 seconds after the second beep and you hear the Hiss abruptly stop, and you are back to silent.
I have this problem with all audio activity on the phone, but the ringtone volume trick is the easiest way to demonstrate it.
helppme said:
Please can you test something, with some sensitive in ear headphones (or in a quiet room if they are normal headphones.)
>Connect headphones to phone
>Make sure ALL apps are closed.
>turn the phones ring volume to zero
>you should hear silence.(regardless of what headphone volume is)
>On the home screen, Press the Up volume rocker 3 times quite quickly.
>On my phone, the headphones go from silent to Hiss, then I hear the 'Beep'.....'Beep' of the volume increase on top of the hiss. Wait 2 seconds after the second beep and you hear the Hiss abruptly stop, and you are back to silent.
I have this problem with all audio activity on the phone, but the ringtone volume trick is the easiest way to demonstrate it.
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Or even easier, just press the volume down or up button once in any direction with headphones plugged in. Regardless of what it was set to and becomes set to, you will hear a faint background hum/hiss be emitted through the headphones for a second. This is fairly normal on any phone and even most audio devices. I don't know what you expect really in a smart phone that costs £129 in the UK. It is a compact environment to build so much electronics into and will never be a hifi device.
I tested with 3 phones on my desk right now and they all have a hiss when you first do something to make audio come through the headphones like quickly play and then pause a track. In fact, one phone (Samsung Galaxy Ace Plus) has not only a hiss, but a screech/high pitched whine as well. All of these "noises" that are detectable, become undetectable when volume of anything is turned up past the first or second bar anyway.
Ravinxx said:
I'm on 4.4. I notice a slight hiss when music is coming out of the phones speaker, though its completely undetectable if the phone is at around half volume. No hiss when coming through headphones.
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Or even easier, just press the volume down or up button once in any direction with headphones plugged in. Regardless of what it was set to and becomes set to, you will hear a faint background hum/hiss be emitted through the headphones for a second. This is fairly normal on any phone and even most audio devices. I don't know what you expect really in a smart phone that costs £129 in the UK. It is a compact environment to build so much electronics into and will never be a hifi device.
I tested with 3 phones on my desk right now and they all have a hiss when you first do something to make audio come through the headphones like quickly play and then pause a track. In fact, one phone (Samsung Galaxy Ace Plus) has not only a hiss, but a screech/high pitched whine as well. All of these "noises" that are detectable, become undetectable when volume of anything is turned up past the first or second bar anyway.
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This is a fair point, and I agree is not surprising given the phones price. I think the reason I have posed this question was to a) determine if it could be software related (4.3 vs 4.4.2) but It doesn't looks so. b) Is it universal, or could be a slight lottery and maybe my phone is worse than others. As some people say they definitely have no issue. (granted it could be subjective)
Also, I would say, although it is present in most devices to some degree, it is noticeably worse on this phone than any other I have had. Multiple sony erricsons, galaxy Ace, Nokias.. And my last phone Galaxy S2 had extremely clean audio production. (i compared directly with moto g).
I do concede I am an audio snob though, so don't like listening to poor quality. I never really expected to use the moto g for music, but would have been a nice to have.
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This is a fair point, and I agree is not surprising given the phones price. I think the reason I have posed this question was to a) determine if it could be software related (4.3 vs 4.4.2) but It doesn't looks so. b) Is it universal, or could be a slight lottery and maybe my phone is worse than others. As some people say they definitely have no issue. (granted it could be subjective)
Also, I would say, although it is present in most devices to some degree, it is noticeably worse on this phone than any other I have had. Multiple sony erricsons, galaxy Ace, Nokias.. And my last phone Galaxy S2 had extremely clean audio production. (i compared directly with moto g).
I do concede I am an audio snob though, so don't like listening to poor quality. I never really expected to use the moto g for music, but would have been a nice to have.
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Yeah, it seems to me too that you are a bit more on the audio than most people
By the way, I was wondering up to which levels can you really say that you hear the hiss? As I've said before, for me it's definite hiss when muted and 1st level, weird feeling on the 2nd and I can't hear it from the 3rd.
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Yeah, it seems to me too that you are a bit more on the audio than most people
By the way, I was wondering up to which levels (just the volume slider, no music) can you really say that you hear the hiss? As I've said before, for me it's definite hiss when muted and 1st level, weird feeling on the 2nd and I can't hear it from the 3rd.
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Depends on the music. pop music which has a lot of mids and highs, the hiss isnt noticible from notch 4 up maybe.
Quiet music, classical, R&B & hihop with a lot of bass beats but not many highs, you can hear the background his up to maybe 2 notches off max. But its acceptable from maybe half volume.
tbh it's more of a shame than an issue. I didn't expect this to replace a decent mp3 player, would just have been convenient is all.