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Hi guys.
I have a little audio problem with my Himalaya/i-mate/XDA II/MDA II/Qtek 2020 or whatever you like to call it.
The internal speaker seems to have a contact with something metallic or hard plastic. At the max earpiece volume, when calling, the ringing tone is distorted. When lowering the volume, it does not do this. It seems that, when the plastic membrane is moving, to reproduces the loud sound, it touches something hard and it distorts the sound. Does anyone have experienced this? I want to try to fix this. I paid hard won money for this marvellous device, and I do not want my experience to be ruined by bad audio.
Thanks for the help guys!
Not sure if its the same thing but when i played any sound it crakled a little. Did not bother me until the camera sound went on and off every 1 second. Did a hard reset and seemed ok until it happened again so i did another hardware reset went through all the programs i had instaled until it happened again. So i reset a third time without instaling that program(cant remember the name of it) but it works ok now.
I know what you mean Patrick..and if you hold your thumb over the earpiece it sounds a bit better, though of course muffled.
This is something that does bother me as I sometimes use the loudspeaker call option. Other phones don't have this problem in loudspeaker and it surprises me the II does this, as apart from a slightly rattly volume adjuster the build of my II is significantly better than the XDAI.
Just one of those things we have to put up with in order to have such an otherwise great piece of kit, though I'm equally surprised the manufacturers didn't notice it!
Anthony
Thanks a lot !
Yeah, your description and the thumb thing is exactly what I mean. I wonder if it's the speaker membrane itself or a contact with something? Maybe it could be fixed?
Thanks a lot guys!
It may be a warranty claim, you need full volume when using the speakerphone, get in touch with the service centre.
I have the same exact problem... The sound distorts if you have it set too loud.
I guess it's just the el cheapo speaker or poor design.
Hi guys, i have the same problem and its bugging me alot, any sugesstion or solution???? is it a hardware problem or did we install some software that case this? my XDAII still has warranty do you sugest me to go for service center or just live with this problem.
Thanks
Well Iam not saying its a good thing but Iam happy to see Iam not the only one experiencing this problem with the speaker although I dont own XDA II but XDA IIi or Qtek2020i whatever way you wanna call it. I also wondered if it is a harware problem couldn't we replace the speaker with a better quality one? In my case this jitter mettalic sound does not happen only in speaker mode but also in normal mode as long as the volume is set close to max or max.
My Qtek2020i has the metallic sound only when it's a large amount of humidity and very hot outside.
It seems that the speaker suffer a lot from humidity, it also happen when i keep it in my jeans pocket and i prespire a lot. After half an hour when it dries out, everything is ok.
How do you find the Earpiece sound quality and voicecall performance compared to previous owned phones?
I think too many people where unhappy with the device because of the phone performance in general. I can't understand how such basic features where not treated as top priority specs.
It's " Who cares " typo sorry, not possible to edit the poll.
Thanks
EDIT: FLashed Radio 2.06 and voicecall quality is better but STILL CRACKLES
i find the sound quality is weird with this phone i.e.
rear speaker = loud but tinny, and seems that anymore than 70% volume and the software overpowers the actual speaker and causes distortion
headphones = ok sound quality very vocal friendly, quite nice for ambient vocal tracks, soft and fluff sound, i used shure se310 headphones so some of the best around
call earphone = very bad, even with the volume very low it still distorts when people talk, im not sure why this is and i thought it was a damaged speaker but its as if the sound is to harsh with the high feq.... so only call or accept calls from people with deep voices lol
It isn't necessarily the ear piece that's the problem, it's the VOLUME being pumped through it. The volume on my HD2 is ridiculously loud so I'm not surprised that my speaker is popping and distorting!
i went with the "it could be better" option
i always find myself switching to the speaker, then going back (repaeat cycle over and over with each call just trying to find an easy way to make out what people are saying.
a couple of mods would ultimately fix it, but im happy that the speaker is loud. Which kinda means its got the Umpgh
i use the headphines for music, i switched into an inear buds. it really makes a difference
tripleA said:
i went with the "it could be better" option
i always find myself switching to the speaker, then going back (repaeat cycle over and over with each call just trying to find an easy way to make out what people are saying.
a couple of mods would ultimately fix it, but im happy that the speaker is loud. Which kinda means its got the Umpgh
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Yes but it's TOO LOUD. I wouldn't mind if it went loud but I also want it to go quiet too, it's way too loud at the lowest volume setting. I can't use the speakerphone at all, it is destroying itself with distortion. I actually can't use the earpiece close to my ear either, due to criminally high volume. I use the earphone as a speakerphone - I kid you not. I don't know if it's just certain batches but my HD2 would be suitable for almost-deaf people.
Actually the keypad tones also are WAY TOO LOUD! I was in a meeting and it was like everyone was trying to find out where the was sound coming from... I had to turn it off.. a shame..
Not to forget also the pain the earpiece causes during phone calls. This thing is really sharp !!!
In terms of HTC phones, I've had the Kaiser and Raphael before the HD2, and I must say that the call quality on the HD2 is the best of the three! This wold be both through the speaker on the back (speaker phone) and through the earpiece.
I agree that the initial volume was way too loud, however there is a tweak somewhere on the board where you edit a registry entry for initial call volume, and that helped tremendously. So I'm actually quite pleased.
People who made the HD2 @ HTC Tech.. were a little bit deaf I think..
Bad speaker quality because of distortion and popping
Bouloama said:
People who made the HD2 @ HTC Tech.. were a little bit deaf I think..
Bad speaker quality because of distortion and popping
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Yea I think so, I am gonna try the registry tweak; hopefully it's gonna work.
voicecall is pretty bad because of the random noise similar to radio static. This nosie is particularly noticed when no one is speaking.
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voicecall is pretty bad because of the random noise similar to radio static. This nosie is particularly noticed when no one is speaking.
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Same here ... someone spoke with HTC about this issue !?!?!?
I am not really bothered by the noise but by the poping and cracking sound the earpiece makes.
The registry tweak did not work for me as I expected
I will have to wait for a hotfix if any... I hope HTC will consider this issue...
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voicecall is pretty bad because of the random noise similar to radio static. This nosie is particularly noticed when no one is speaking.
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have had the phone for only about a week but no issues with random noise. I do find that the loudspeaker distorts @ max volume, but just one notch below that and it's ok.
think the Touch HD has better earpiece / loudspeaker, but the HD2 can output higher volume on loudspeaker compared to the HD, so that's a plus.
maybe it's an issue with your phone operator?
For people who experience the background noise - Have you tried (if possible) both GSM and UMTS/HSPA (3G)?...
Fatherboard said:
For people who experience the background noise - Have you tried (if possible) both GSM and UMTS/HSPA (3G)?...
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Yaah unfortunately that did not help
What tweaks worked for you guys to eliminate the distortion? when I lower the volume I keep hearing like a popping sound and cracks even with the headset.
Any idea? thanks.
aussiebum said:
have had the phone for only about a week but no issues with random noise. I do find that the loudspeaker distorts @ max volume, but just one notch below that and it's ok.
think the Touch HD has better earpiece / loudspeaker, but the HD2 can output higher volume on loudspeaker compared to the HD, so that's a plus.
maybe it's an issue with your phone operator?
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I doubt that this is an operator related problem since my previous phone worked OK with this sim card.
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For people who experience the background noise - Have you tried (if possible) both GSM and UMTS/HSPA (3G)?...
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Currently I'm only using GSM network but I will try making phone calls using UMTS. Don't think that will solve this problem though.
About tweaks I haven't tried any because all tweaks I saw were related to the distortion due to extremely high volume (which is not my case).
spastik said:
About tweaks I haven't tried any because all tweaks I saw were related to the distortion due to extremely high volume (which is not my case).
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Same here, I need to remove the cracking noise, more like filtering the call quality, it's not a hardware fault im sure.
When I talk on this phone, the sound is very poor... Although not too loud (like other complaints) but the sound crackles at high frequencies... The speakerphone is even worse...
Is anyone aware of some tweaks to improve communication sound on this phone?
Can AudioBooster be set up to work with the phone's sound not only the music player? Any other options ???
Thank you in advance.
Sui Generis said:
When I talk on this phone, the sound is very poor... Although not too loud (like other complaints) but the sound crackles at high frequencies... The speakerphone is even worse...
Is anyone aware of some tweaks to improve communication sound on this phone?
Can AudioBooster be set up to work with the phone's sound not only the music player? Any other options ???
Thank you in advance.
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I think the high volume on this phone is artificially boosted over what it's meant to be, i.e. HTC have modified the audiopara (or something like that) in the Windows folder to try and boost the speakers sound over what it's meant to be.
(Something that ROM coookers figured out on the Diamond I think).
I think, maybe someone can reduce those values back to normal? The speaker will be a little quieter, but it won't crackle or distort as much.
Sui Generis said:
When I talk on this phone, the sound is very poor... Although not too loud (like other complaints) but the sound crackles at high frequencies... The speakerphone is even worse...
Is anyone aware of some tweaks to improve communication sound on this phone?
Can AudioBooster be set up to work with the phone's sound not only the music player? Any other options ???
Thank you in advance.
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How big are these sound crackes...are these continous or at high volume ...
hi
i have the same problem , maybe ill try lower the sound down a bit? or opfully there might be a patch to fix this ?
same problem here
same problem... crackling noise in speaker. Many seem to have this :/
I have same problem and I hope someone will fix this.
Any news?
YES
Change radio!!! without 576MB RAM fix
sound quality
same here the sound quality from both the earpiece and loudspeaker is very poor quality ihave had my phone replaced 3 times and its the same on all , very dissapointing on a phone of this quality bearing in mind its main function is as a phone !!
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Change radio!!! without 576MB RAM fix
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Which radio do you recommend? I have Leo_RADIO_2.07.50.27_2 and a terrible sound while on the phone.
Sound is to loud, impossible to lower volume enough. Much distortion even at lowest volume (which still is to loud). Bad sound in cable handsfree and BT handsfree.
Soundquality while playing music on the other hand is perfect in speaker, handsfree and BT handsfree.
Suggestions?
Since sound is often a pretty subjective matter, so I'd like to interject that the phone network only transmits from around 300 Hz to 3,000 Hz. Therefore the sound of a voice over your phone will never sound as clear and nice as it should, let alone like the 192 kbps-MP3-file you are playing
If it's worse compared to other phones however it's, as stated above, likely a problem with the radio. I use the 2.08.50.08_2 from [REF]The HTC HD2 Radio ROM Thread and have a quite decent quality.
I agree totally - if it sounds good or bad is individually. But, the sound quality in my HD2 is far worse than in my 5 years old SonyEricsson, and when I borrowed a Nokia the other day I was surprised how good (clear, crisp, distorsion free) a cell phone can sound.
I have a lot of distorsion and all too loud sound. Often I have to hold my phone 20 cm away from my ear just to avoid getting half deaf..
Thanks for the tip, I'll try the 2.08.50.08_2 Radio and hope for a better sound
you can try this hotfix...worked very well @my hd2
i got this from another forum.
little info: some users said that the soundlevel is now always set up to 100%...but try it on your own!
Köttel said:
you can try this hotfix...worked very well @my hd2
i got this from another forum.
little info: some users said that the soundlevel is now always set up to 100%...but try it on your own!
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Thanks, trying it now, will report back after tomorrow's hardcore testing at work..
Return it if you can...
I had Nokia E71 before and it's speaker is fo another level better than HD2... BUT, question is: when I'm gonna use speakerphone on my HD2? ... almost never
Seems better, but a little to subjective at the moment. Will keep trying and report back!
Definitely better after the patch. Quite good actually. I have not seen any side effects yet, only clear sound, and better volume.
Thanks for the hotfix!
Will try it on my colleague's phone also now.
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I used the hotfix as well but it appears to have made no difference whatsoever to the quality of sound during calls , so my phone is going back to htc again and if it returns with the same issues i will ask for a replacement as due to the ammoun of posts on here this is a major flaw in the phone and a highly irritating one too , i love this phone but the audio quality during calls is appalling in comparison to all my previous phones .
After a couple more days of testing I found out that the patch gave no effect at all. BUT: I found out another thing: Even though the system volume is at lowest according to the meter, if you increase, you actually lower the volume. So, if you during a call first increase and then decrease the volume, it gets acceptable. Still to loud though.
So, it seems like what HTC really should do is to get the dialer use the sound mixer properly. Today it is obviously oversteering which creates distorsion.
this is a war we won't win
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After a couple more days of testing I found out that the patch gave no effect at all. BUT: I found out another thing: Even though the system volume is at lowest according to the meter, if you increase, you actually lower the volume. So, if you during a call first increase and then decrease the volume, it gets acceptable. Still to loud though.
So, it seems like what HTC really should do is to get the dialer use the sound mixer properly. Today it is obviously oversteering which creates distorsion.
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I've bought my HD2 back in Dec the 11th and since then I've been in contact with HTC about fixing this problem. They've given me a debug tool to run on my device, sent the logs twice and so far they've done nothing about it. I've given up. What I do for outgoing calls, while it rings I turn the volume all the way up and then all the way down before the other party answers. doing this you get a decent sound. Can't do much about the incoming calls,
As far as flashing different radios and roms... I've flashed about 30time already. tried all the possible radio/rom combinations but with only slight different results. Nothing to brag about!
the fix I attached helps a little bit!
If anybody finds and cure let us all know! please!!!!!
heard the call volume is quite low compared to other phones.
i am mostly in noisy environment ...so it mite be a problem for me
any app to boost volume?
well i gotta admit.. the volume for this phone suckz! dont get me wrong.. the phone itself i love! headphone wise its pretty decent though!
I think at the moment we are stuck with it! im sure ive seen a volume booster about but we have to wait till the x10 is rooted!
Not sure if maybe a minor update from sony themselves can make a difference?
Low Volume Solution
I had the same issue.
i just palay a high pitch sound in my phone and all seems to work perfect.
ear peace volume increase a lot .
you can try
the notification sounds are weak as well. it's so low and i can't even hear it. i was at a friend's gathering - home party. had like 10 emails waiting for me and i didn't even hear it. had the phone in my front breast pocket as well!
i've got the same issues the sound in the headphones is lame compared to the nexus one or the magic for example.
Call volume is a real issue. I would encourage everyone to contact SE about it. If enough people complain they can boost the volume in a firmwire update.
Mod edit: not (yet) t&a related, moved to general
yes sony should incresase the in call volume it is very low if you are in traffic it becomes very hard to hear what other person is saying, sony plz solve this problem because X10 is first a phone then they should think about multimedia etc.
I know on some other Android phone's (e.g. G1 http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f4/volume-increase-hack-found-18107/), a software modification has allowed for much higher volume.
Not sure if actually increases the speaker volume as well, or just through headphones?
+1 for the speaker!
Agree! The speaker is WAY too low!!!
/CK
+1 here too
It would be nice, the speaker is crazy quiet.
i wonder wot the reason was for them to keep it at that level of sound and is way to queit
Or it possible use the front speaker for avi/video/streaming?
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It seems everyone has the low volume speakers.
I noticed that Angry Birds seems to be a little bit louder than other things.
Anyway, I highly urge everyone that thinks this is a problem to give this feedback to the HTC customer support. Obviously this is the only way to get an official fix for this quicker, if at all.
Wonder if the speaker can handle a increase in max volume.
Anyway, aren't there hidden service menus on the Desire HD that can be triggered with a phone code? In the service menus of a phone there are always some nice parameters to tweak.
I tried some general codes, but none of them seems to work (except the *#*#INFO#*#* of course, but that's a general hidden android menu... even works on the emulator)
until we get access to the rom via Bootloader, there is no general tweak we can do.
However, just for music, try PowerAmp from the market. It has a great pre-amp setting to boost the volume (be careful not to blow your speakers though)
We want increasement in the general speaker volume... Not just music
/CK
saquib said:
I know on some other Android phone's (e.g. G1 http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f4/volume-increase-hack-found-18107/), a software modification has allowed for much higher volume.
Not sure if actually increases the speaker volume as well, or just through headphones?
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You can do that, but you will need a script to do that at every launch, since /system write is not permanent.
Furthermore, after each time you adb push the files, you need to restart mediaserver in order pull in the new settings.
Last but not least, you will need to modify the DHD audiopara, since the G2 might not work well.
To make the long story short... SPAM HTC's EMAIL!!
WE DIDNT BUY THA F*CKING PHONE FOR THIS ISSUES ...
And they thought they could fool us ... with their Dolby and SRS enhancements!
Disguzting!!
worse comes to worse ill rip this open and find a replacement speaker, i cant even hear it ring in my pocket and im missing calls
who knows said:
worse comes to worse ill rip this open and find a replacement speaker, i cant even hear it ring in my pocket and im missing calls
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I experienced the same, missing calls because the damn volume is just too low!
Also, when you use the speakers when having a phone call, you can't even hear the person unless you're in an absolutely quiet room... The same goes for music, youtube, navigation..... Anything!!!??!?
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I experienced the same, missing calls because the damn volume is just too low!
Also, when you use the speakers when having a phone call, you can't even hear the person unless you're in an absolutely quiet room... The same goes for music, youtube, navigation..... Anything!!!??!?
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I returned mine because of the low speaker volume. I was missing 99% of calls because I couldn't hear the phone ringing. In my business I just can't afford to miss calls. As I sold my normal desire to get this phone I had to buy an Orange San Francisco to use till something else comes along.
I was playing with a friend's Nokia N8 & have to say the speaker quality & loundness is outstanding on it. Also used as a phone its much better than the DHD. Shame the OS is a bit dodgy.
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I am not sure if you are speaking about speakers of DHD in general or just about external. Well, Ive sent back my DHD to Vodafone because call speaker was so useless that I could not even hear other person when I had TV on. Hopefully it was just one bad piece but its apparent that HTC fcked up DHD with poor quality speakers in general. I am waiting for my phone replacement and even when I know that it would be hard to say DHD goodbye I am afraid Ill have to if speaker quality will be that bad again
http://www.bel.fi/~alankila/android-dsp/
Why don't we use this... compile libaudioflinger and DSP Manager, in which we can set presets (you can +10 every channel of sound, so it comes out 10x louder).
Good luck compiling... I couldn't find an example
http://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_base <-- libaudioflinger is in /libs/ (yes it's default in Cyanogenmod)
http://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_DSPManager DSP Manager android application, yes everyone should be able to compile this one