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Any word on when cyanogenmod is coming to the fascinate?
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I believe we need to wait until froyo then it should be shortly after that...but i could be wrong...
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Nope. It will be here when there is a big ass thread title at the top of these forums saying CYANOGENMOD FOR FASCINATE ZOMGOMGOMG!!!
Don't ask for ETA's

The biggest problem is the different versions of the Galaxy S. The most likely solution is if a few developers would commit to porting it for the Fascinate.
The biggest problem that we currently have (correct me if I'm wrong) is the developers that are committed to bringing Cyanogen to the phone combined with the fact that we have a jacked up source code.
This is all speculation so please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

@cyanogrn has also said that they dont have a test fascinate. If they had a donated phone or if there were some way to designate a donation for that particular phone, i would contribute. They dont seem real focused on it at the moment.
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would be nice but i aint dieing to have it.

RacerXFD said:
The biggest problem that we currently have (correct me if I'm wrong) is the developers that are committed to bringing Cyanogen to the phone combined with the fact that we have a jacked up source code.
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No, the biggest problem we have is that it's based on Froyo and we don't have Froyo source or even a leaked update.

s44 said:
No, the biggest problem we have is that it's based on Froyo and we don't have Froyo source or even a leaked update.
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That is not the biggest problem, as there are versions of CM that are based on android 1.5, 1.6, 2.0, 2.1 and 2.2
The biggest problem right now is that Samsung hired some really smart programmers that make really stupid decisions, like using a RIL from android 1.5 and hacking it together to work on 2.1

fallingup said:
That is not the biggest problem, as there are versions of CM that are based on android 1.5, 1.6, 2.0, 2.1 and 2.2
The biggest problem right now is that Samsung hired some really smart programmers that make really stupid decisions, like using a RIL from android 1.5 and hacking it together to work on 2.1
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There wouldn't be much use in using Cyanogenmod 5x. Froyo, at least, is what we need to look toward the future.
I am DYING for Cyanogenmod, for a few simple reasons, including BASIC google functionality that was not built into this phone.
The most annoying right now is the lack of multiple Google calendars not even showing up in Samsung's handicapped Calendar app.
My HTC Eris has a 2.6.29 kernel. This phone is a year newer. The playing field should be different.

CyanogenMod7 progress going well for Galaxy S

This is not a ROM, just an update on CyanogenMod progress for the Galaxy S.
Google Code page: http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod7-for-samsung-galaxys/
CyanogenMod forum thread: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/14168-gt-i9000-cm7-work-in-progress/
Copy pasted from Code page:
Code:
What's working:
* MTD
* Radio
* Audio
* GPS
* Wifi
* Bluetooth
* HQ Video PLayback
* internal SD-Card
* external SD-Card
* Light Sensor
* Acceleration Sensor
* Initial Updater-Script for first rollout
What's not working:
* LQ Video Playback
* Camera
* Polling problem on RIL
* 2G/3G toggle
* Compass
* FM-Radio
* TV-Out
* USB sharing of internal SD-Card
Impressive progress.
With this, and the newer official Vibrant kernel source pending to be released, we might have a 100% functioning CM7 on our Vibrants and therefore a completely AOSP Gingerbread. Though Team Whiskey already made an experimental Gingerbread build that mostly works. Either way I'm excited for this progress of bringing AOSP to the Galaxy S and it's variants (especially our variant )
EDIT: Sorry if this isn't fit for the development section, maybe it should be moved to general?

FM-Radio? As far as i know it was decided that the vibrant does not have the hardware for this

Could they still meet the old broken camcorder and black and white previews issues on the CM6 build?
For me, as long as they fix the camera and polling, it is good for me. I don't have a data plan or use youtube very much. On the CMSGSTeam twitter it says coolya added some tweaks to the RIL java file.

DaSmittyman said:
FM-Radio? As far as i know it was decided that the vibrant does not have the hardware for this
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this is the i9k, not vibrant. so the fm doesn't apply to vibrants.

is it true that this roms allows us to use more ram?
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No, the galaxy s has a maximum user available ram at 339 mb I think, provided by a speedmod kernel. The rest of the 512 mb is reserved for the video card, phone, and android system.

Anyone else besides me not see the download link?
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I was just being sarcastic.
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On a serious note, it looks like the big guts of the project(basic functionality) has been done. Excited to see this when it comes to life.

I kind of gave up on any CM roms a while back. I donated to the cause and its been over six months already and nothing. At least nothing close to stable. I'm sticking with Team Whiskey . I love cyanogen on my.G1 but as far as the Vibrant goes I love me some TW. Who knows though, maybe I'll change my mind when it comes out
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A small (hopefully inflammatory) question for ppl that are familiar with the Rom.
Is CM really worth all the fuss/hype?
I read ppl carrying 2 batteries for the sake of running cm6 beta...
And people fawning over the idea over Cm7, which doesn't seem to have full support from the CM devs to Bring it over to the Vibrant.
Is it that good of a rom? Vast improvement over what TW/D4A/Einharjar currently offer us?
(Don't have a phone that it natively supports Cm)
Just want to get some impressions, thanks!
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Holeblocker said:
A small (hopefully inflammatory) question for ppl that are familiar with the Rom.
Is CM really worth all the fuss/hype?
I read ppl carrying 2 batteries for the sake of running cm6 beta...
And people fawning over the idea over Cm7, which doesn't seem to have full support from the CM devs to Bring it over to the Vibrant.
Is it that good of a rom? Vast improvement over what TW/D4A/Einharjar currently offer us?
(Don't have a phone that it natively supports Cm)
Just want to get some impressions, thanks!
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Not really for the Vibrant. They have pretty much abandoned any of the US variant development and are sticking to other vendors and/or the international I-9000 model.

NWolf said:
Not really for the Vibrant. They have pretty much abandoned any of the US variant development and are sticking to other vendors and/or the international I-9000 model.
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what are you guys talking about...
they are working on support for all the SGS variants.....
haven't u guys seen the twitter?.....
jeez

scrizz said:
what are you guys talking about...
they are working on support for all the SGS variants.....
haven't u guys seen the twitter?.....
jeez
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They've been "working on" it for months with basically nothing to show for it. I can put out all the twitter feeds I want, it doesn't mean I have anything useful. "TheDude" or whatever his name was/is that was in charge of the Vibrant development portion of CM hasn't updated his twitter feed in forever in regards to CM for the Vibrant. I'd call that abandoned.
The point is, there is nothing from CM for the US SGS variants available right now that's A) not already been done by everyone else and/or B) stable/reliable/working and/or C) A monster battery hog (due to it being based off the... wait for it... international I-9000 kernel. The last update for the SGS was in October... October! And that's the I-9000 stuff that does us in Vibrant land very little good. So not only was the last release from CM for the SGS more than 3 months ago, it was almost completely useless to the US variants.
So, that's what we're talking about. The fact that CM has released nothing relevant for the Vibrant since it was released. That's not a knock on CM, it's just a simple statement of the facts. CM is largely irrelevant to the Vibrant scene and that void has been filled by other rom chefs, as such, the CM name has simply been coasting on inertia since then. If CM came on the scene with the release of the Vibrant, no one would even know of the group/person because they've released basically nothing.
If you know of a single release for the Vibrant by CM since last July, I'm all ears. But as far as I know, and I'm pretty up to date mind you, there has been exactly zero released for the Vibrant and I'm pretty sure the same holds true for the 3 other US variants as well.

Thanks for this update and keeping us in the "Know", will look forward to this comple
Thanks for this update and keeping us in the "Know", will look forward to this completion and all of its features!

jokersax11 said:
The reason everyone wants cm is that its aosp plus community extras. Cm started with htc because thats all there was. Most htc phones are similar. The og droid was pure android like the g1 and the n1 both have source and drivers. Vibrant has touchwiz and no source for 2.2 both of those count to why we don't have cm. plus samsung does things different making it hard to build from aosp source. I think we will see it when some form of basic aosp shows its head to the vibrant (nexus s). The nexus s is the single best chance for cm or aosp on the vibrant. Personally I welcome it because many of the touchwiz stuff we want will be in cm and still be aosp based. They already use a similar notification bar like on touchwiz. Pure android is fast, pure android is aosp. We have nothing on vibrant or I9000 that is aosp based and fully working. Everything on the vibrant is based on samsung precompiled software(2.2). Btw cm is known for stability and speed. Dont believe me, try a stock 2.2 g1. Then try cm. its light and day. The g1 is pure android already. No skins or anything. Just like nexus phones. In fact it was the first dev phone. Samsung made everything different to stand out for sales. It worked. With one product line they reach the top. I do wish they would put someone a little more talented on the project or at least more people considering we have maybe the largest number of android variant.
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You are spot on with this....When I got my g1 it was people like cyanogen jesusfreak and the dude making roms. cyanogen has provided us with features and additions that we wish google would have put in place. I always default to cyanogen roms when available. For now though I am loving teamwhiskey so I do not feel like I am missing anything.

I flashed cyanogenmod on a mytouch slide last night and the phone became 2-3 times faster than stock: it was the first time the phone could run a live wallpaper or play angry birds without any lag. So I'm pretty excited for this to be ported to the vibrant.
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OMFG. I haven't seen this much drama since jersy shore....
To the devs: thank you for your hard work and dedication
To the fan boys: keep suporting your devs!
To the haters: educate your self or pound sand.
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NWolf said:
Really? Please point me to a download? Because their forums, you know, the place you'd go and expect to find a link, doesn't have one.
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http://www.codeworkx.de/download/cyanogenmod/CM6.2.0-GalaxyS-NIGHTLY.zip
Build date: 01.2011

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http://www.codeworkx.de/download/cyanogenmod/CM6.2.0-GalaxyS-NIGHTLY.zip
Build date: 01.2011
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That's not for the Vibrant. I don't think.

hanbaoquan15 said:
That's not for the Vibrant. I don't think.
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Works for the most part with eugenes kernel though...closest thing we've got lol
And judging from what was being discussed this was the link in question...my bad.

gentw0 said:
Works for the most part with eugenes kernel though...closest thing we've got lol
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But isn't that the point. It's not FULLY functional. And the battery is not stellar either. Anyway. The mods will close this thread soon enough.

(most likely) Why Gingerbread is taking so long.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/38311/android-2-4-april-release-date
in a move that shows there is some kind of cover-up of the mistake of the lack of Android 2.3 devices on the market (aside from the Nexus S) 2.4 will still be called Gingerbread, as the only new feature it adds will be this ability to support dual-core apps on a single-core device.
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Makes complete sense. Dev's are already using the honeycomb SDK to produce apps made for dual core devices. Google cares more about having the maximum number of apps to be available to as many people as possible rather than having a handful of consumers having the absolute latest edition (and I have to agree with them).
How many stock vanilla android devices are there? Just us and the NS (pretty sure no one gets OTA's the day of except us two). Getting an OS out there for everyone is more important then keeping a relatively small group happy with the latest official build. Besides, the N1 is meant for ROM's. Google want's us to play with them, which is why I own the phone. If you've been waiting for gingerbread, just flash a freaking ROM and be happy.
Gingerbread isn't even that great anyway.

AFAIK Gingerbread suffers different problems:
1. security
2. resets
IMHO google devs are working on them before pushing 2.3 on the nexus one too, making it vulnerable and unstable.

elegos said:
AFAIK Gingerbread suffers different problems:
1. security
2. resets
IMHO google devs are working on them before pushing 2.3 on the nexus one too, making it vulnerable and unstable.
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Yhea i did read about the resets in NS, i'm using GB on N1 but it never resets on it's own.

commodoor said:
Yhea i did read about the resets in NS, i'm using GB on N1 but it never resets on it's own.
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The resets may be an issue with the Nexus S hardware, and not with the OS. The Samsung Galaxy S phones have quite a few "issues", just ask any owner of a Captivate. I switched from the Captivate to a Nexus One, it is a much better phone.

commodoor said:
Yhea i did read about the resets in NS, i'm using GB on N1 but it never resets on it's own.
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I'm on CM7 and getting occasional random resets.

Google announced 27. January that OTA for Nexus S coming in 1-2 weeks, I don´t know why, but maybe we´ll see both Nexus One and Nexus S OTA.

I wish people would stop saying "just flash a GB ROM and be done with it", there's more to it than that. The N1 is sort of a reference design for alot of phones out there. A working N1 GB ROM means solid drivers, solid battery life, solid performance, etc.
I also have an HD2, it's running GB but the battery life (and BT stack in particular) is pretty poor. Devs say they won't be able to improve much until there are more GB ROMs they can pick parts from. First on that list is the N1.
There are more than just us Nexus One users tapping their fingers waiting for Google on this.

elegos said:
AFAIK Gingerbread suffers different problems:
1. security
2. resets
IMHO google devs are working on them before pushing 2.3 on the nexus one too, making it vulnerable and unstable.
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The "reset" issue is specific to the NS hardware. Samsung screwed the pooch on that one. There are plenty of people here running GB roms with out issue.
But I do believe the security flaws recently discovered to have a significant impact on GB's delayed release.

GldRush98 said:
The "reset" issue is specific to the NS hardware. Samsung screwed the pooch on that one. There are plenty of people here running GB roms with out issue.
But I do believe the security flaws recently discovered to have a significant impact on GB's delayed release.
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I've had plenty of resets on my N1 with CM7

James Bell said:
I wish people would stop saying "just flash a GB ROM and be done with it", there's more to it than that. The N1 is sort of a reference design for alot of phones out there. A working N1 GB ROM means solid drivers, solid battery life, solid performance, etc.
I also have an HD2, it's running GB but the battery life (and BT stack in particular) is pretty poor. Devs say they won't be able to improve much until there are more GB ROMs they can pick parts from. First on that list is the N1.
There are more than just us Nexus One users tapping their fingers waiting for Google on this.
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My N1 is running a GB ROM with solid battery life, and performance. I don't know about drivers but everything works perfectly and as it should. Almost like I am running an official build of GB. The reboot issue only seemed to occur on CM7.. oddly. And it wasn't frequent enough for me to care.
I thought the HD2 always had pathetic battery life when it came to Android. Mine's did, until I remembered to install SetCPU. It last all day, which is just what I need.

I mean the AOSP was released for gingerbread, so we can get some pretty stable ROM's. No it isn't as good as an official update, but if I wanted to wait for official updates, I would have bought a desire.
Now I'm not sure about this, but I think most ROM's that are cooked are built using the ASOP rather than modified stock ROM's. It isn't worth waiting and complaining for a 100% optimized OTA ROM when there are tons of temporary solutions.

XSafire said:
I mean the AOSP was released for gingerbread, so we can get some pretty stable ROM's. No it isn't as good as an official update, but if I wanted to wait for official updates, I would have bought a desire.
Now I'm not sure about this, but I think most ROM's that are cooked are built using the ASOP rather than modified stock ROM's. It isn't worth waiting and complaining for a 100% optimized OTA ROM when there are tons of temporary solutions.
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dont get ya. do you think desire owners arent using AOSP ginger?

XSafire said:
I mean the AOSP was released for gingerbread, so we can get some pretty stable ROM's. No it isn't as good as an official update, but if I wanted to wait for official updates, I would have bought a desire.
Now I'm not sure about this, but I think most ROM's that are cooked are built using the ASOP rather than modified stock ROM's. It isn't worth waiting and complaining for a 100% optimized OTA ROM when there are tons of temporary solutions.
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I bought the N1 because it was great hardware and, most importantly, because it was carrier free. The ability to root and flash the phone is nice in case I ever feel the need to admin yet another Linux machine, but that was certainly not everyones reason for getting the phone.

madman_cro said:
dont get ya. do you think desire owners arent using AOSP ginger?
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I simply meant that we receive updates as soon as they are available, and are the first ones to get it. Desire has to wait for HTC to update sense and drivers and all that stuff until they release an OTA.
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I bought the N1 because it was great hardware and, most importantly, because it was carrier free. The ability to root and flash the phone is nice in case I ever feel the need to admin yet another Linux machine, but that was certainly not everyones reason for getting the phone.
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Touche, although there aren't many people on these forums with the same intentions. I was simply speaking to the masses.

I don't know why release is taking so long...

My N1 resets randomly on CM7.... but luckily I don't have the wonks!
Google will release it when its ready!

Vibrant forum dying?

Before I get to my point I want to thank all the devs for there hard work that they do in their spare time. They do it for free and hope that some of us donate to make it a little more worth their while.
Maybe it's just me or does it seem like the development thread is slowing down. I've noticed lately that most of the stuff coming in now is ports from other phones and updates for past builds. Theres not alot of new stuff rolling out. EDT seems to stay busy, but what happend to TW? I would have put money on having a stable 2.3 rom out by now to use as a daily driver. We also lost Eugene and leaked samsung builds seem to not be coming out as often.
Is our phone entering the twilight years? Are the dev's losing interest and working on other phones. I've played around with some of the new phones like the atrix and thunderbolt and i'm sure they could be a lil more interesting to build for.
I hope i'm wrong and 5 min. after I post this a new 2.3 rom comes out. It was fun when you flashed a new trigger rom and 1 day later the new bionix came out. This is a really nice phone and you have to really try hard to brick it. It's almost like Samsung designed it to be modded. Hopefully the devs can get inspired again or some new blood comes in to give us something new.

I think we need to be patient. One day there will be a leak for gb and things will fire up again.
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just relax man every phone goes through spells of development. I see you only joined in april so just wait, Whitehawkx had a mostly working gb port working minus the gps and we have CM7 and MIUI support now as well.
Be patient this phone is amazing and im certain development will continue for it for some time.
In the mean time flash a miui beta or try out the EDT roms you wont be disappointed.

Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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u guys keep us coming back for more every day and i thank you for that! great job on all this.

explodingboy70 said:
Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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Yes, but point being is that we're pretty much at the mercy of Samsung & T-Mobile to release a 2.3.
We will not have a kernel source to play with until it releases for I9K, and even then we'll have issues for a while. And we won't have one with rockin' battery life until we get a leak or source.
But yeah, there really isn't much developing coming from anyone except the guys working on kernels & people like Whitehawk, sonique, and of course Untermench who actaully modify the code. Because there's not much else to do.

Things are winding down. There are only a handful of people around who have the knowledge and inclination to roll their own ROMs.
As newer devices with more capabilities are introduced (the dual core LG G2X will be in T-mobile stores April 20th), then the older ones lose favor.
That is how it is with Android. Your 8 month old phone becomes old. After 15 months its an antique!

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Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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I actually have tried to develop a theme to post here but there is so much involved with all the editing and i simply don't have the time. I really wish I did. Trust me I have a great respect for what the dev's do once I started playing around with just a theme. I can only imagine what a rom would take. Plus I can honestly say i'm not skilled enough to put out a quality rom any time soon, if ever. I'm really not complaining about effort or quantity from the devs, i've just noticed lately there seems to be a dull in the dev section. I was just wondering why.

Eugene is back. He said on twitter that he bought a Vibrant. You can see evidence, his newest Ginger Clone version has already had 4 updates.
Sure a lot of the development is for 2.2 and 2.2.1 roms, but I'd say we're easily WAY more active than we used to be. We've now got plenty of choices of roms, kernels, and themes. We've also got new people joining the Vibe development scene. There's an experimental Gingerbread Sense that's just started testing. We are now officially supported by the MIUI team. I see new things happening every day. Development doesn't always happen overnight, but I believe we've still got lots of good things look forward to.

Slowing down? I still remember when there was only one rom in the dev section. Now there's a new one each week, and at least one update every day.

Tarzanman said:
Things are winding down. There are only a handful of people around who have the knowledge and inclination to roll their own ROMs.
As newer devices with more capabilities are introduced (the dual core LG G2X will be in T-mobile stores April 20th), then the older ones lose favor.
That is how it is with Android. Your 8 month old phone becomes old. After 15 months its an antique!
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?

dcontrol said:
Slowing down? I still remember when there was only one rom in the dev section. Now there's a new one each week, and at least one update every day.
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Haha yeah I remember that too. But ROMs every week != good. Most of them are ports and aren't stable.
I really wish we could have AOSP roms so we could have TRUE development going on. None of this hack and patch stuff.
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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They want CM lol (as do I)

Why do we keep having these threads. I rooted my phone late last year. I have been more then satisfied. I'm just glad to have a faster better phone than what I had originally. Just have some damn patience.
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Keep in mind the psychology at work here. Most of the people who get all angsty about this are rom comsumers, and not active dev's, themers, or kangers.
It appears that what we are experiencing now is a lot of cross development, taking existing roms from the international i9000 and porting them to our universe thanks to the availability of kernel source for 2.2. So the nature of activity has changed, but the scope has actually expanded.
This phone (thanks to dev work here @ XDA) stopped sucking ass A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Gains to be had at this point are largely cosmetic, so there is the appearance that improvements are not coming at the rate they used to. The fact of the matter is that quantitative improvements are largely unnecessary at this point.
As a "consumer" myself (I gave up on linux development a long time ago, owing to my own inherent laziness) I find the current state of affairs quite amazing. Your mileage may vary. YMMV.

What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^

masterotaku said:
Keep in mind the psychology at work here. Most of the people who get all angsty about this are rom comsumers, and not active dev's, themers, or kangers.
It appears that what we are experiencing now is a lot of cross development, taking existing roms from the international i9000 and porting them to our universe thanks to the availability of kernel source for 2.2. So the nature of activity has changed, but the scope has actually expanded.
This phone (thanks to dev work here @ XDA) stopped sucking ass A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Gains to be had at this point are largely cosmetic, so there is the appearance that improvements are not coming at the rate they used to. The fact of the matter is that quantitative improvements are largely unnecessary at this point.
As a "consumer" myself (I gave up on linux development a long time ago, owing to my own inherent laziness) I find the current state of affairs quite amazing. Your mileage may vary. YMMV.
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Well said. It's just like what happened when I had the N1, people started to complain because the roms were so stable there weren't many updates being released.

regP said:
I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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i dont know either...
2.3 probably WILL be faster than 2.2 (duh) but besides the speed, we have everything else.
All thats going to be different is when you go into settings about it will say 2.3 gingerbread
instead of 2.2 or 2.2.1
the rest is good.
im on miui, and i switch between cm7 and miui once in a while
im never going back to 2.2.1

birgertime said:
What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Very true. People want updates, but they don't know why.
If its not being updated as fast as it used to, chances are it doesn't even really NEED updating.

birgertime said:
What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Well said. Someone just asked on one of my 2.2.1 threads why it was so quiet and my only thought was because everything works. Here it is everything has been fixed there should be nothing left to discuss here flash and enjoy.
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thegreatcity said:
Very true. People want updates, but they don't know why.
If its not being updated as fast as it used to, chances are it doesn't even really NEED updating.
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That's the point for me. I stopped updating at KA6. Sure KA7 came out not long after, but why? I had been updating daily/weekly until then, always fighting some bug or flaw. With KA6, I flashed the ODIN version, removed bloatware myself, added the round battery icon, power off menu, and that was *it*. More recently I've updated the Kernel to Overstock 2.x and voodoo FS, but I'm not even sure why I need voodoo. Can't tell a difference in the real speed of the phone.
I didn't take the phone apart to add FFC like so many did (and who also never use it in most cases), so I don't need improved support for that... and themes, well... I guess there is that, not much going on in KA6 themes -- but that doesn't affect the use of the phone at all.
KA6 for me has been fast, stable, and by far the best on battery life of any I've touched yet. There are few if any programs out there that require 2.3 or higher, and until that is the case, why change?
The atmosphere is totally different than it was last fall, when the rest of the world was going 2.2 and Vibrant was stuck on 2.1. At that time, there were an increasing number of programs that simply would not work on Eclair - plus Froyo had been promised as an update. Now we have everything Samsung promised, and really if you're running a lightly modded ROM, it *is* bug-free.
So... until I am forced to consider 2.3, I'm sticking with KA6.. It is nice after years of constantly flashing upgrades on the HTC Vogue (wm6), then the G1, then flashing the MT3G constantly, then constantly flashing the Vibrant, to actually pick up my phone and have it work the same way it did yesterday.

Desire HD users have been left out

Hello my fellow HTC Desire HD users and developers.
My name is StJohn, I'm from South Africa.
I'm very dissapointed to see that we have been left behind in the ICS race.
Nexus one users are seeing progress with ICS, along with the desire users, and a couple others. The desire users already have a flashable ZIP...
So heres the big question:
Where is our ICS progress? Is there no developers working on one for us?
The Desire HD hardware is ahead of the desire, so thats not an excuse. And I
know theres no source code yet, but developers are making progress with the SDK just to give users a taste of ICS at least. I just want to see the same progress for the Desire HD users. Wheres our ICS?

Hi
Developers here tend to wait for the official release before doing anything like that. It saves a ton of hassle because theres less that will go wrong and less complaints and things.

If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it

brad808 said:
If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it
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Yep, Cyanogen is the most stock like custom ROM I know of, and if they can't make it yet, it must not be fit for general use.

raze599 said:
Yep, Cyanogen is the most stock like custom ROM I know of, and if they can't make it yet, it must not be fit for general use.
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While I agree with the point. CM mod is not really all that close to stock anymore. It has its own framework and built in mods. Nothing wring with it as I use a CM bases rom from time to time.
But I do agree with the fact they are wanting to wait for the source. The sdk is not enough to build anything worth releasing right now. Mainly with huge population of new to Modding people on XDA now. A couple of years ago I would have been all over the sdk as well and tossed something out there knowing that the people using it would be able to help with the loads of issues that it Will have for sure. Can't do that now. To many people blindly flashing with know real idea of what is going on and don't know how to give proper feedback and bug reports. Now I know this is just due to people being new and we were all new at once but now there are more people coming from an iPhone or this is there first smartphone and can't really release what we used to.

Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.

tomegranate said:
Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.
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good point, I believe the OP would need to contact CM's client service to complain

This should ease your concerns, https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd

tomegranate said:
Considering that the Galaxy Nexus hasn't even been released yet, saying that DHD users have been left behind is totally ridiculous.
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+1
Remember assumptions are the mother of all F**K Ups

They have been trying. They have it booting but the touchscreen does not work so nothing can be done.

To be fair,its all different hardware niggles, the end of the day..you could have a dev release a rom...that has a hundred bugs and is generally ****. Gingerbread came out,which was good you could test it but really pissed you off in a way that there was no way to use it daily unless you fancied losing wifi or no bluetooth.
Patience is the key.Why are there so many threads about this **** lol its every time, i do also want to post numerous threads regarding this but patience. How has the hd been left behind anyway, we have had every release so far besides ice cream

i'm almost sure DHD won't get ICS... technicaly DHD could get an 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 official OTA anytime but HTC waits until ICS will hit Sensations. Just about one month before that, DHD will get 2.3.5 as final official update...
It was the same with Hero last year... when htc rolled 2.1 on HERO just before the 2.2 launch on the newer devices. It's all marketing and I'm sure the carriers are the key players... especially the ones in US. They are making the rules and the 2 years product rollout cycle.
I'm also pretty sure that HTC "supports" the "rooting and custom roms development"... as some kind of justice for the HTC hard core consumers...

One way or another ICS will come to the dhd... If its not official it will be a port or cyanogen.
But atm i'm really happy with the 2.3.5 runny rom^^ Lets just be a little patient!

brad808 said:
If cyanogen team isn't ready to make it, then I'm not ready to use it
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What he said.

cristeamax said:
i'm almost sure DHD won't get ICS...
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harrehk said:
This should ease your concerns, https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
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It's a two page thread. Come on.

The Sensation is getting ICS so I'm very sure the DHD will get it.
If you don't think so have more faith in devs on xda.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

in that 2 page thread it says
"New devices,i.e,Released after May 2011 will receive the updates prior to the old phones like Desire HD"
What that means? no ICS TO DHD? ?
did not understadn fully that thing there please explain?

All I want, and so many other people, is a taste of ICS, Just a test drive, I'm not asking for daily use, and the expression "left out" is referring to the SDK roms coming out, not the official source code or official release of ICS.
Just want to see some progress to a flashable ICS port, and now I am seeing that over at the development forum so this is good.

This may a ridiculous question (sorry in advance) but would any port of ICS still have the SRS settings for the music player?

Pruikki said:
in that 2 page thread it says
"New devices,i.e,Released after May 2011 will receive the updates prior to the old phones like Desire HD"
What that means? no ICS TO DHD? ?
did not understadn fully that thing there please explain?
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It means the newer phones will get it first.