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Gingerbread sdk out next week?

Going through a lot of white pages and news articles...gingerbread might just be around the corner...once the sdk drops it won't be long before devs jump on it and everyone has it on there android handsets...might take longer for samsung phones but that's just because they want to keep their stuff top security classified it seems like.anyways just seen the news poping around for the past few days and didn't see a post on it...check out android spin and the other top resources if you like....
Enjoy
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Vibrant Gingerbread, Samsung. OH lord, you just made my day....
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Yes, I am seeing this news everywhere also. Something interesting is that they (Beta Testers) say that Gingerbread will "change the way we use our phones." This sounds like something major.

kangxi said:
Yes, I am seeing this news everywhere also. Something interesting is that they (Beta Testers) say that Gingerbread will "change the way we use our phones." This sounds like something major.
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Heh....I'd just like to see a handset like the Mozilla Seabird get built in the next 3-5yrs. I know it's a concept but man...what a concept.

Change the way we use our phones? Well these past decade there are a lot of changes on the way we use our phones already. What more, do laundry?
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Froyo first please.

iynfynity said:
Froyo first please.
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^^^^^^this

Kinda a noob, but if this uses the same kernel as froyo won't it be easy ish to port the sdk?

MTC44 said:
Kinda a noob, but if this uses the same kernel as froyo won't it be easy ish to port the sdk?
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It might. But we need the kernel to begin with
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Looks like Gingerbread is based on .33 or .34. Gonna be a while, If ever

Well figured this would be a nice change from the froyo crying...lol
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Yep, the joke is on us suckers, who go fooled by Samsung's lofty statements about the Galaxy S being their mobile game-changer.
Gingerbread will change the UI dramatically, and thus it will really change the way people use Android. OS 2.1 and 2.1 still feel like work in progress, and even Google claims that OS 3 will finally take the platform to a mature stage.
But I am losing faith that we'll see Gingerbread on the Galaxy S. By the time we finally get Froyo, Gingerbread will probably be officially released.
Then Samsung will EOL the Galaxy S, repackage it with a slightly faster chip version and go to market trying to get new suckers to buy the Gingerbread version, or old suckers to upgrade to it....
Phew!

If the release it for the galaxy s 2 or whatever it will be much easier for the devs to port over than it is for them to get group working now since samsung will most certainly keep very similar hardware in the next iteration of the phone.
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Tpavey said:
If the release it for the galaxy s 2 or whatever it will be much easier for the devs to port over than it is for them to get group working now since samsung will most certainly keep very similar hardware in the next iteration of the phone.
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Hopefully true.
But there is little excuse for Samsung being so slow to push upgrades. It's been 5 months since the OFFICIAL Froyo release, and Samsung must have had access to betas way earlier.
It will also be inexcusable if they don't upgrade the current Galaxy S to Gingerbread, since it's such a major upgrade and the phone hardware is compliant with it.
I am grateful for the devs here, but at the same time, I just went back to stock JI6 (just with a standard Android lockscreen mod), and frankly the battery life improved a little, plus the phone seems a bit more stable overall.
At this point I just want stability and the latest released firmware and OS. And it's Samsung's responsibility to provide it in a timely manner.

CyanogenMod7 progress going well for Galaxy S

This is not a ROM, just an update on CyanogenMod progress for the Galaxy S.
Google Code page: http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod7-for-samsung-galaxys/
CyanogenMod forum thread: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/14168-gt-i9000-cm7-work-in-progress/
Copy pasted from Code page:
Code:
What's working:
* MTD
* Radio
* Audio
* GPS
* Wifi
* Bluetooth
* HQ Video PLayback
* internal SD-Card
* external SD-Card
* Light Sensor
* Acceleration Sensor
* Initial Updater-Script for first rollout
What's not working:
* LQ Video Playback
* Camera
* Polling problem on RIL
* 2G/3G toggle
* Compass
* FM-Radio
* TV-Out
* USB sharing of internal SD-Card
Impressive progress.
With this, and the newer official Vibrant kernel source pending to be released, we might have a 100% functioning CM7 on our Vibrants and therefore a completely AOSP Gingerbread. Though Team Whiskey already made an experimental Gingerbread build that mostly works. Either way I'm excited for this progress of bringing AOSP to the Galaxy S and it's variants (especially our variant )
EDIT: Sorry if this isn't fit for the development section, maybe it should be moved to general?

FM-Radio? As far as i know it was decided that the vibrant does not have the hardware for this

Could they still meet the old broken camcorder and black and white previews issues on the CM6 build?
For me, as long as they fix the camera and polling, it is good for me. I don't have a data plan or use youtube very much. On the CMSGSTeam twitter it says coolya added some tweaks to the RIL java file.

DaSmittyman said:
FM-Radio? As far as i know it was decided that the vibrant does not have the hardware for this
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this is the i9k, not vibrant. so the fm doesn't apply to vibrants.

is it true that this roms allows us to use more ram?
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No, the galaxy s has a maximum user available ram at 339 mb I think, provided by a speedmod kernel. The rest of the 512 mb is reserved for the video card, phone, and android system.

Anyone else besides me not see the download link?
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I was just being sarcastic.
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On a serious note, it looks like the big guts of the project(basic functionality) has been done. Excited to see this when it comes to life.

I kind of gave up on any CM roms a while back. I donated to the cause and its been over six months already and nothing. At least nothing close to stable. I'm sticking with Team Whiskey . I love cyanogen on my.G1 but as far as the Vibrant goes I love me some TW. Who knows though, maybe I'll change my mind when it comes out
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A small (hopefully inflammatory) question for ppl that are familiar with the Rom.
Is CM really worth all the fuss/hype?
I read ppl carrying 2 batteries for the sake of running cm6 beta...
And people fawning over the idea over Cm7, which doesn't seem to have full support from the CM devs to Bring it over to the Vibrant.
Is it that good of a rom? Vast improvement over what TW/D4A/Einharjar currently offer us?
(Don't have a phone that it natively supports Cm)
Just want to get some impressions, thanks!
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Holeblocker said:
A small (hopefully inflammatory) question for ppl that are familiar with the Rom.
Is CM really worth all the fuss/hype?
I read ppl carrying 2 batteries for the sake of running cm6 beta...
And people fawning over the idea over Cm7, which doesn't seem to have full support from the CM devs to Bring it over to the Vibrant.
Is it that good of a rom? Vast improvement over what TW/D4A/Einharjar currently offer us?
(Don't have a phone that it natively supports Cm)
Just want to get some impressions, thanks!
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Not really for the Vibrant. They have pretty much abandoned any of the US variant development and are sticking to other vendors and/or the international I-9000 model.

NWolf said:
Not really for the Vibrant. They have pretty much abandoned any of the US variant development and are sticking to other vendors and/or the international I-9000 model.
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what are you guys talking about...
they are working on support for all the SGS variants.....
haven't u guys seen the twitter?.....
jeez

scrizz said:
what are you guys talking about...
they are working on support for all the SGS variants.....
haven't u guys seen the twitter?.....
jeez
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They've been "working on" it for months with basically nothing to show for it. I can put out all the twitter feeds I want, it doesn't mean I have anything useful. "TheDude" or whatever his name was/is that was in charge of the Vibrant development portion of CM hasn't updated his twitter feed in forever in regards to CM for the Vibrant. I'd call that abandoned.
The point is, there is nothing from CM for the US SGS variants available right now that's A) not already been done by everyone else and/or B) stable/reliable/working and/or C) A monster battery hog (due to it being based off the... wait for it... international I-9000 kernel. The last update for the SGS was in October... October! And that's the I-9000 stuff that does us in Vibrant land very little good. So not only was the last release from CM for the SGS more than 3 months ago, it was almost completely useless to the US variants.
So, that's what we're talking about. The fact that CM has released nothing relevant for the Vibrant since it was released. That's not a knock on CM, it's just a simple statement of the facts. CM is largely irrelevant to the Vibrant scene and that void has been filled by other rom chefs, as such, the CM name has simply been coasting on inertia since then. If CM came on the scene with the release of the Vibrant, no one would even know of the group/person because they've released basically nothing.
If you know of a single release for the Vibrant by CM since last July, I'm all ears. But as far as I know, and I'm pretty up to date mind you, there has been exactly zero released for the Vibrant and I'm pretty sure the same holds true for the 3 other US variants as well.

Thanks for this update and keeping us in the "Know", will look forward to this comple
Thanks for this update and keeping us in the "Know", will look forward to this completion and all of its features!

jokersax11 said:
The reason everyone wants cm is that its aosp plus community extras. Cm started with htc because thats all there was. Most htc phones are similar. The og droid was pure android like the g1 and the n1 both have source and drivers. Vibrant has touchwiz and no source for 2.2 both of those count to why we don't have cm. plus samsung does things different making it hard to build from aosp source. I think we will see it when some form of basic aosp shows its head to the vibrant (nexus s). The nexus s is the single best chance for cm or aosp on the vibrant. Personally I welcome it because many of the touchwiz stuff we want will be in cm and still be aosp based. They already use a similar notification bar like on touchwiz. Pure android is fast, pure android is aosp. We have nothing on vibrant or I9000 that is aosp based and fully working. Everything on the vibrant is based on samsung precompiled software(2.2). Btw cm is known for stability and speed. Dont believe me, try a stock 2.2 g1. Then try cm. its light and day. The g1 is pure android already. No skins or anything. Just like nexus phones. In fact it was the first dev phone. Samsung made everything different to stand out for sales. It worked. With one product line they reach the top. I do wish they would put someone a little more talented on the project or at least more people considering we have maybe the largest number of android variant.
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You are spot on with this....When I got my g1 it was people like cyanogen jesusfreak and the dude making roms. cyanogen has provided us with features and additions that we wish google would have put in place. I always default to cyanogen roms when available. For now though I am loving teamwhiskey so I do not feel like I am missing anything.

I flashed cyanogenmod on a mytouch slide last night and the phone became 2-3 times faster than stock: it was the first time the phone could run a live wallpaper or play angry birds without any lag. So I'm pretty excited for this to be ported to the vibrant.
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OMFG. I haven't seen this much drama since jersy shore....
To the devs: thank you for your hard work and dedication
To the fan boys: keep suporting your devs!
To the haters: educate your self or pound sand.
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NWolf said:
Really? Please point me to a download? Because their forums, you know, the place you'd go and expect to find a link, doesn't have one.
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http://www.codeworkx.de/download/cyanogenmod/CM6.2.0-GalaxyS-NIGHTLY.zip
Build date: 01.2011

gentw0 said:
http://www.codeworkx.de/download/cyanogenmod/CM6.2.0-GalaxyS-NIGHTLY.zip
Build date: 01.2011
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That's not for the Vibrant. I don't think.

hanbaoquan15 said:
That's not for the Vibrant. I don't think.
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Works for the most part with eugenes kernel though...closest thing we've got lol
And judging from what was being discussed this was the link in question...my bad.

gentw0 said:
Works for the most part with eugenes kernel though...closest thing we've got lol
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But isn't that the point. It's not FULLY functional. And the battery is not stellar either. Anyway. The mods will close this thread soon enough.

Honeycomb 3.0 for G2?

Does anyone have an idea when Honeycomb 3.0 will be ported over to G2?

Lol its been ported for a while now go to the development section
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I wanna know when Cyanogen will make a Honeycomb ROM for us

AZ2ENVY said:
I wanna know when Cyanogen will make a Honeycomb ROM for us
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He probably will, but it won't be for phones, it'll be for tablets. Honeycomb is well known to not be made for phones.
OP it should also be noted that the current ports are almost entirely non-functioning, and really just a proof of concept at this point.

I thought it was already established it can be used on phones because
of all the different resolution folders in the system .

There is actually nothing saying HC won't work on phones. As far as it being merged into CM, that will happen if and when its dropped in AOSP, as Steve and the gang only build from source.
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rp1783 said:
There is actually nothing saying HC won't work on phones. As far as it being merged into CM, that will happen if and when its dropped in AOSP, as Steve and the gang only build from source.
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No I know it will work on phones, but it wasn't made with phones in mind.

martonikaj said:
No I know it will work on phones, but it wasn't made with phones in mind.
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Sure it was. The features being showcased in the video where this whole stupid rumor originated are the only things that were "for tablets only".

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Sure it was. The features being showcased in the video where this whole stupid rumor originated are the only things that were "for tablets only".
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Just saying that Google openly stated that 3.0 is for tablets, and 2.4 is the next iteration for phones that will incorporate features of Honeycomb back to the phone OS.

martonikaj said:
Just saying that Google openly stated that 3.0 is for tablets, and 2.4 is the next iteration for phones that will incorporate features of Honeycomb back to the phone OS.
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lol this! ^^^
I think it'd be cool if there was a decent TV out option. Things may get a little cramped, but I'd give it a shot. Would be sweet to dual boot it because as a daily driver it wouldn't be as good as something like CM or Virtuous.

It was posted today on AndroidSPIN.com, just cool to look at the ui since nothing really works yet.
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Recovery: ClockworkMod 3.0.0.5

Honeycomb isn't as polished as gingerbread is internally, and it was developed to run on tablets. I wouldn't run it even if there was an official version for our phone. Google needs to tweak it some more before I'd say its ready for mainstream.

Gingersense - Not happening Right Now

Great advancements have been made with the HD2 over the course of the last 6/7 months none more so than us being able to have NAND Android on our phone and much credit and respect due to everyone involved.
I've noticed though over the last few months that Gingerbread with Sense seems to be all the rage, unfortunately I don't believe any great major progress has been made recently, I'm looking through and have flashed various gingersense builds but its the same problems with them all camcorder,graphic glitches, Wi-Fi trouble,etc etc seem to common reoccurring problems,I've no doubt in time that these issues will be resolved but it seems some people who are content to have a build that might only be say 80% complete on their phone just because it is gingersense as opposed to a build that is 100% stable and thats a bit baffling really, as I said no doubt these issues will in time be resolved but until then personally speaking ill just stick with my stable froyo build until I get my Samsung Galaxy S2.
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.....and the point of this was?

MagikWorx said:
.....and the point of this was?
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bit of a smart ass aren't you
The point being that im wondering why no real advancement has been made with gingersense builds, for months now the same issues are still there,im sure in time they will be resolved but to date they haven't been.

Cuz the source code was not released.

gingersense is the most godawful ****ing word I have ever heard. I hate hearing that word, even in my own head.
gingersense.............
!~!!!!!!!
I can do without sense roms personally, but I feel you, fully functional sense builds would be a dream, truly.

Kailkti said:
Cuz the source code was not released.
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I wasn't aware of this, i knew that Google didn't release the source code for Honeycomb.

kypeth said:
gingersense is the most godawful ****ing word I have ever heard. I hate hearing that word, even in my own head.
gingersense.............
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I can do without sense roms personally, but I feel you, fully functional sense builds would be a dream, truly.
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BTW i didn't coin the phrase "gingersense" ive no idea who did i just read it on here.

Well google did release gingerbread's source code, but they don't handle the releasing of source code for phones'. The manufacturer's do.

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I agree. You never stated that you had a question in the OP. Just that you're staying with froyo with sense. Cool story, bro.
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I have gingercyanomod (did i just make up a word too???) and i tell you pal, ginger is worth it in some perhaps little aspects! (nothing compared to cyanogen mods which i love above all)
all is working ok for me on Android 2.3.4 ...ok, i could do with native usb tethering (theres an app for that!) and true hd camera drivers but these are little things i can live without.
Better that than having to use windows mobile right?
As for sense builds etc, i dont see the point unless you are lucky enough to have bought the TMOUS HD2... every single sense build i tried on my EU HD2, regardless of overclocking, just runs laggy and annoyingly freezes all the time... sure i can have data and sync off and it will run smoother, but thats crap innit?
Using NAND Typhoon for HD2 3.3.2v MAGLDR (clk still has a few bugs imo)

I was looking around to see if the source code for gingersense had been released and I went to http://developer.HTC.com and the first thing on there is HTC Desire HD - GB MR - 2.6.35 kernel source code and when I downloaded it the file is called ace-2.6.35-gb-MR.tar. now I have no idea but isn't that what they need? Or is it there something else?
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Well what the devs have right now is the sensation's build, atleast I think so. Haven't been in that forum in some time.

The devs are waiting for the Desire GB kernel source to be released...then well see some major leaps forward.
Oh and I'm happy with GINGERSENSE because minor graphic glitches don't bother me and I don't use camcorder. WiFi has no issues either for me.

The devs are waiting for the Desire GB kernel source to be released...then well see some major leaps forward.
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well that is good to hear anyway.
Oh and I'm happy with GINGERSENSE because minor graphic glitches don't bother me and I don't use camcorder. WiFi has no issues either for me
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each to their own my friend but a working camcorder is absolutely essential for me and every gingersense build ive tried has had some sort of issue with Wi-Fi so ill just keep the stable build i have.

GB 2.3.3/4 with CM7 runs so smoothly, couldnt change to a sense rom and lose all the smoothness

if ur waiting for anything
its htc to release the source code for their ginger sense and or a group of devs to write up some new drivers for the hd2 case alot of the driver arent compatible with the hd2

CM7 The Only Hope For Epic 4G?

As this community slowly declines one can't help but think, is CM7 the only thing we have left to look forward to?

I don't know if we can or not. We managed to troll/eta ourselves into getting the thread closed.
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Not really i mean we've got ACS... Bonsai ...MidNight.... Nebula (hopefully)... MIUI .... all this should kick off shortly.
but i mean after gingerbread... then what ? Gingerbread is already pretty old so i mean...

I don't know guys, maybe samsprint will surprise us.
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As much a my phone would love some ice cream sandwich, I highly doubt samsprint will officially support it for the epic. While gingerbread was a nice treat (pun intended). I beielve this will be the last official update. But hey hopefully the devs can work some magic...if there are ay left by then!
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Reaction to Official GB will Reveal All
I suspect the reaction to the official gingerbread release will tell us. I suspect we'll see a flurry of the standard players after the GB release, Bonsai (my favorite), ACS, etc. However, they will quickly reach the point where they have done all they can do, (i.e. applied all the currently known tweaks/patches).
After that, it's really CM. CM7 development (based on commits) seems to have slowed a bit after a flurrish at the end of May. If the CM7 team is able to get it stable based on the official GB source, the Epic can then ride the CM train for a while. If that doesn't happen, I expect 1-2 revisions of tweeked ROMs based on GB from each team, particularly Bonsai and ACS and then development on the Epic will be done.

More tasty deserts with CM7.
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I suspect the reaction to the official gingerbread release will tell us. I suspect we'll see a flurry of the standard players after the GB release, Bonsai (my favorite), ACS, etc. However, they will quickly reach the point where they have done all they can do, (i.e. applied all the currently known tweaks/patches).
After that, it's really CM. CM7 development (based on commits) seems to have slowed a bit after a flurrish at the end of May. If the CM7 team is able to get it stable based on the official GB source, the Epic can then ride the CM train for a while. If that doesn't happen, I expect 1-2 revisions of tweeked ROMs based on GB from each team, particularly Bonsai and ACS and then development on the Epic will be done.
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I agree if we are lucky we may get an ice cream sammich. With CM7 we can get timely upgrades of more tasty deserts like jelly beans, kiwi pudding, lemon meringue pie, etc, etc....

Not even looking at icecream sandwitch, if we get to CM7, we will not just get major updates, but we'll get regular, minor releases as well. Those can provide additional featuers. (I'd personally LOVE to get the granular permissions control thats being added to CM7.) If we don't get to CM7, we can dream about ICS, but in reality, we're unlikely to get features and instead only get ROM tweeks (and kernel modules).

Also we will have continued development and not have development stop because of lack of source code. That is what I hate most about not being on cyanogenmod. With the lawsuit with apple Samsung should seriously consider working more with cyanogenmod and just dump touch wiz all together. In my opinion touch wiz is not all that impressive and serious limits the phone's compatibility.

jamice4u said:
I agree if we are lucky we may get an ice cream sammich. With CM7 we can get timely upgrades of more tasty deserts like jelly beans, kiwi pudding, lemon meringue pie, etc, etc....
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+1 charrrrrrr LMMMMAO!!!!!!!!
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jamice4u said:
Also we will have continued development and not have development stop because of lack of source code. That is what I hate most about not being on cyanogenmod. With the lawsuit with apple Samsung should seriously consider working more with cyanogenmod and just dump touch wiz all together. In my opinion touch wiz is not all that impressive and serious limits the phone's compatibility.
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To the consumer touchwiz may not seem much. But to sammy it is. There's always some in depth agenda the consumer has no clue about.
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I believe that after GB we have no other updates coming for the Epic (official at least). But we manage to get CM, that would change the appeal of the phone, and would be a retention factor for many.

megabiteg said:
I believe that after GB we have no other updates coming for the Epic (official at least). But we manage to get CM, that would change the appeal of the phone, and would be a retention factor for many.
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I believe something of a sort aswell my friend. But the CM7 team will have a fully functional release by the end of the summer. I'm positive. Then will have a lot more activity going on with the epic community once again. Just have patience and encourage our developers. Donate. And keep the hype going. Believe it or not the people are the devs source of encouragment.
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Cm 7 is not the problem.. The nexus kernel will be our only hope.

Custodian said:
To the consumer touchwiz may not seem much. But to sammy it is. There's always some in depth agenda the consumer has no clue about.
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Does that agenda have to do with $$$? Besides it should not be a problem with them people like us only account for less than 5% of the market share anyways.

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Does that agenda have to do with $$$? Besides it should not be a problem with them people like us only account for less than 5% of the market share anyways.
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Its always about money.
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I don't use touchwiz as my launcher but I've come to really appreciate the other small enhancements touchwiz brings.
I might be the only one but I really cannot stand sense.
This phone works great - I don't think it really needs that many more updates.
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I want miui
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ya im really hopin once 2.3 comes out the CM7 team will get everything on track. i agree with the fact CM7 will more than likely be our last hope after 2.3 comes out, atleast for those who want to stay up to date with an older handset which has great hardware regardless. single core or not, epic has been a dream phone to me, especialy coming from the moment(touch pro 2, touch pro, mogul and ppc 6700 before that. i wont ever go all touch, KB is too important for me). the devs on here are great and keep guys like us loving our phones but i also dont forsee ICS coming to the Epic, even though google made an announcement that android phones will be updated to new software at minimum of 18months AFTER release, although that announcment was made more than 6 months after the epic came out. sucks that this phone hasnt even hit the 1 year mark yet and we are already at EOL even on firmware side. hopefully google puts the pressure on the manufacturers AND service providers for these updates regardless of when they announced that. only time will tell guys but regardless i wont buy a phone without a KB. at this point im so satisfied with my epic i can see myself rockin this bad boy for another 3+ years if need be, does what i want, when i want and has one of the best 5-row KB ive ever used. only thing missin on my EE03 is for impaler to make a keyboard fix for these dropped keys lol i miss my speed demon patch, BIG life saver for me. i type as fast if not at times faster on my epic than i do on a regular PC keyboard =P

Love. It I'm using cm7
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