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[Q] How to create HDMI ONLY rom for broken vega?

As i have smashed my vega's glass does anyone have any ideas or advive on how to create a rom with HDMI as the default/main/only display? as id like to use it as a smart tv/media box! I am a novice with rom making but understand the therory and im willing to learn!
Currently trying to find where and how androids hardware dispay settings are/work!
could it be as easy as unplugging the lcd and restart with hdmi pluged in?

Hi,
you don't have to create your own ROM for that.
The easiest way to achieve what you want is to buy the official dock station (£30 I guess), plug the HDMI on your TV and stick a wireless USB Mouse-Keyboard combo on the back of the dock (I have used before with my Dell branded, but I'm sure should work with anything). Done!
Vegacomb still does not fully performs with the HDMI so I suggest you to use Corvus5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043506 which is the snappiest and most bug-free ROM around I've seen around.
Sit back on the couch, use the mouse as if it was your finger on the screen and the keyboard is just a nice touch for when typing e-mails or searching on you tube.
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if you don't fancy buying the dock station, there're some ways to make the Vega USB port be a host USB, so u can stick the mouse direct on it, but then you can read to find it out how.

thaks for the reply! i was thinking of going back to corvus5 or maybe cm7 because as you say they have usb host also the dock for the vega is hard to find. The thing id like to do is have the resolution increased to 1280x800 like the xoom or 1280x720+? instead of 1024x600 in a 720 or 1080 box?
what im aming to do is turn my broken vega into a smart android tv box like...
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/android-tv-set-top-box-18-05-2011/

http://store.cbccomputers.com/products.asp?partno=VPAD-DOCK-001
^ I just ordered that for my vega. Apparently should work!

danb79 said:
thaks for the reply! i was thinking of going back to corvus5 or maybe cm7 because as you say they have usb host also the dock for the vega is hard to find. The thing id like to do is have the resolution increased to 1280x800 like the xoom or 1280x720+? instead of 1024x600 in a 720 or 1080 box?
what im aming to do is turn my broken vega into a smart android tv box like...
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/android-tv-set-top-box-18-05-2011/
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I saw those links and find them very tempting.
But the fact is that those are very special versions of android with some extra dedicated hardware for video decoding. Tegra2 is for sure a massive powerhouse, but, as a control systems (automation) engineer and Android App (not ROM) developer, I don't think there would be a way to "just trick it out" some existing Vega ROM to do the job. You would really need to built your own version of Android creating some own specific drivers. But that's kinda of my guess based on my knowledge of hardware, I hope I'm wrong cause I would definitely want to take a look in such ROM.
Bayton said:
http://store.cbccomputers.com/products.asp?partno=VPAD-DOCK-001
^ I just ordered that for my vega. Apparently should work!
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it looks exactly like the one I have. And considering that they are clones.

i would be very interested to know if it works bayton , keep us updated
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Bayton said:
http://store.cbccomputers.com/products.asp?partno=VPAD-DOCK-001
^ I just ordered that for my vega. Apparently should work!
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i would be very interested to know if it does work bayton please keep us updated, thanks

Budius said:
I saw those links and find them very tempting.
But the fact is that those are very special versions of android with some extra dedicated hardware for video decoding. Tegra2 is for sure a massive powerhouse, but, as a control systems (automation) engineer and Android App (not ROM) developer, I don't think there would be a way to "just trick it out" some existing Vega ROM to do the job. You would really need to built your own version of Android creating some own specific drivers. But that's kinda of my guess based on my knowledge of hardware, I hope I'm wrong cause I would definitely want to take a look in such ROM.
it looks exactly like the one I have. And considering that they are clones.
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i know those have special hardware for video decoding but the vega will play 720 or even 1080 in the right codec etc!! im not to worried as i use my ps3 for hd content. im realy looking for internet gmail gtalk youtube iplayer etc and some games on my tv for my wife and children (they love angry birds!)
As for drivers the vega must have some kind of hdmi driver already?
I want to dissable the lcd and have hdmi as default display insted of mirrord?
Does android use edid info to set resolution etc can this be taken from the tv?id like to up the ui resolution to make it less pixilated, as youtube and media will run at upto 1080 over hdmi can the ui and apps be forced to?
sorry to ramble , im learning lots!!

Bayton said:
http://store.cbccomputers.com/products.asp?partno=VPAD-DOCK-001
^ I just ordered that for my vega. Apparently should work!
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Looks the same as the Vega dock, I just walked into PC world and grabbed one for £25(reduced from £30) shame you don't get a extra power block with it.
Mods please move this question to the general section. Thanks.

seems my post got hijacked i dont care about docks its still a mirrord ouput! My real question is can someone please try to point my in the right direction...
I want to dissable the lcd/digitizer use a mouse and have hdmi as default display running full UI at 1280x720 or higher, i beleve that i have to edit the kernel driver/module? im shure this is possable as it can be done on the tegra 250 dev kits?
not rely fussed what android version, ive gone back to corvus5 as 2.2 is nvidia supported drivers thought it should be best approach?
Any links to help me get started with the vega kernel would be very much appreciated!

danb79 said:
i beleve that i have to edit the kernel driver/module? im shure this is possable as it can be done on the tegra 250 dev kits?
not rely fussed what android version, ive gone back to corvus5 as 2.2 is nvidia supported drivers thought it should be best approach?
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well...
from my understand of hardware, YES, that would be your best approach, I wish I could help.
and if you're really up to the challenge I wish you the best of luck and make sure to keep the forum informed, as I would be definitely wanting to give it a try.

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i would be very interested to know if it does work bayton please keep us updated, thanks
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Oh, it works - perfectly.
Sure, it says "ViewSonic" on the front, but that's no different to plugging in speakers that say "Sony" to me, so no worries.
Vegacomb - hostmode works like a charm. USB keyboard and mouse are brill
Sent from my VegaComb using Tapatalk

[Q] Nook Help

Well i own a nook tablet. and i was wondering if i could install a nook color rom without causing any trouble with by device since the nook tablet devs are kind of .....slow. But i should not say anything cuz i probably don't know 1/1000 of the things they know.
but anyway, will it work.
hint:i want to install the regular cyanogen mod but it says nook color. not tablet
also if you could give me a link on how(not mandatory)
thankyou

For now at least, the most you can do is root your Nook Tablet. It is not the same as the Nook Color, and the bootloader is locked, which limits what can be booted, unlike on the NC. I bought my wife a NT and spent weeks working on this very same issue. You can do quite a bit with it, and it's very nice hardware, but it's not the hacker's toy the NC is. Your biggest issue will likely be the inability to use APPS2SD to free up space, thought you can load all the content you want on it.
EDIT: Where you really want to be asking questions are in the Nook Tablet forums. This is a good starting place.

No... why would that ever work?
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk

@424aca 'fraid it isn't that simple. The hardware profile is similar on the outside, but not on the inside of the tablet.
And the devs are slow because a lot of the buzz about the NT is gone now, seeing as the NT is nowhere near as hackable as the NC is.
Basically it's locked down to prevent any serious hacking, and any workarounds possible have not been discovered due to the immense difficulty of doing so.

Noob advice: The current state of Kindle fire custom ROMs

Hi,
(I already have experience with rooting and installing custom roms on my HTC desire.)
A colleague of mine will travel to the US in a few days, and we where thinking of having him buy and bring back two Kindle Fires from there.
I have a few questions about the feasibility of this, and would be very grateful for some info, to avoid spending .
The infos in this forum are very extensive, and it is very difficult to keep the overview (especially since things change so rapidly).
1. How well are the custom roms working at the moment? Are they ready to be used in actual work environments, or are they still too experimental for this?
2. I want a very minimalist rom, the vanilla Google experience (my favourite on the HTC was Oxygen ROM). Any recommendations? ICS would be great, but Gingerbread would be okay, too. Most important is stability.
3. When I will try rooting and flashing the devices that will take place in Europe. Could this cause problems? E.g., the Amazon Marketplace is inaccessible from here (blocks non-US IPs). I assume that wont matter, just wanted to make sure.
Thanks for your help in advance!
rhhd

1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533001
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1556910
2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475054
3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1519456
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547252
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393862
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288862
maybe this one is also interesting for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382360

CM7 is nice. Completely stable. You'd probably like Barebones CM7. I was using Standing on the Shoulders of Giants CM7 ROM and loved it.
But...I really wanted ICS, so I flashed CM9. It's beautiful, and very stable, however due to no hardware acceleration (yet) you won't have flash and some games seem to not work.
With all that said, stick to flashing a CM7 Rom and you'll be happy, IMO.

Thanks for the responses.
ChicagoGOBLUE said:
due to no hardware acceleration (yet) you won't have flash and some games seem to not work.
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And this also means no hi-res video support, right?
Or do is just need to have the right app for that?

right - allthrough you can do hi res video with software like mx player does
but this will result in low framerates (stuttering depending on the source) and high battery usage

Thanks again!
One more question: I just noticed the Kindle Fire has only one physical button (power). The Nook Color has at least a few more (Power, Home, Vol+, Vol-).
Is that an annoyance in everyday life on the Kindle? On my HTC I am kind of glad about the Home, Back, Menu and Volume buttons...
(We haven't yet made a final decision between Kindle and Nook.)

there are softbuttons for all this functions and i learned to live with it
in the meantime it is a bit strange for me when i take the gtab from my wife with the hardbuttons
no problem at all ...

rhhd said:
Thanks again!
One more question: I just noticed the Kindle Fire has only one physical button (power). The Nook Color has at least a few more (Power, Home, Vol+, Vol-).
Is that an annoyance in everyday life on the Kindle? On my HTC I am kind of glad about the Home, Back, Menu and Volume buttons...
(We haven't yet made a final decision between Kindle and Nook.)
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Not gonna lie, the lack of physical volume buttons drives me crazy. Livable now that I have CM9, but if using CM7 the 'volume control' app/widget/whatever, is a good option.

The lack of physical buttons on the kindle fire is a lucky break for developers as ICS is built with soft buttons in mind for the major functions of the OS so the one button isn't really a big problem. If google decides to go back to relying on physical buttons in jelly bean then the kindles custom rom future will be up in the air. For now if I were you i'd stick with CM7 until the developers have a chance to perfect the new kernel they're working on that will allow for better graphics among many other improvements.

I bought and registered my Kindle while I was in the states and I haven't had any problems with it here in Europe. I used the stock ROM for a few months and was only able to access the US Amazon, though I'm American so I don't know how that will effect you.
As for the soft buttons, I didn't have any problems with it. I thought the KF's stock ROM organized it pretty well; it was really easy to access the volume and brightness controls. The only thing I didn't like was that the bottom task bar was really big and, although it shrinks when you have full screen on, I was still annoyed by it. CM7 doesn't have that problem, though as someone else mentioned, apps are necessary to comfortably access volume control.
To sumarize, I think it was worth getting. I'm happy with it.

Android past 2.1?

I have a rooted nook simple touch.
Wondering if it is possible to get an android version like 2.3 on it.
2.1 doesn't support a number of google play apps.

taiwwa said:
I have a rooted nook simple touch.
Wondering if it is possible to get an android version like 2.3 on it.
2.1 doesn't support a number of google play apps.
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Currently no.
Also as far as I know nobody is working on that.

why not 2.2 or 2.3
why doesnt somebody want to get working on upping the android version from 2.1 to 2.2 , please

The effort vs. the benefit
steelworker said:
why doesnt somebody want to get working on upping the android version from 2.1 to 2.2 , please
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Every developer has a list of things he/she would like to do, and the list is always longer than the amount of time it takes to do them (which can be considerable).
Thus, they prioritize what they do, toward what will produce the most benefit. To them. It isn't a simple task to adapt any version of Android to any given hardware, and the Nook Touch hardware is different than most (mostly the display). Some apps that will run fine on a display with rapid refresh, don't work especially well on e-Ink screens with their slow refresh rate. Then there's the issue of processor speed ...
You will note that there is no CyanogenMod development (at least that I can see) for the Nook Touch. Tablets better suited to the task are so cheap these days (Nook Colors can be had used on Craigslist for about $60), that it's probably not worth the effort on the Nook Touch.
I speak as someone with two Nook Touches, that would like to use them in a dedicated USB-host-mode communications application. I'm willing to experiment a bit with the Nook Touches, but it's clear to me that there are better tools for the job.

[Q] color v. tablet

As a not entirely clueless newb buoyed by a successful liberation of my nook tablet to jb thanks to xda and others, i put 4.2.2 on a disused nook color. working with both i've noticed the color seems to get confused a lot easier, probably by my impatient extra touches when it's hard to tell if it is working. primary symptom seems to be touchscreen corruption. updated roms haven't helped so far. Queston: is this most likely a function of the hardware and something to be lived with? it's still a fun and functional device but a dinosaur is a dinosaur. Opinions welcome. thanks.

hnewell6837 said:
As a not entirely clueless newb buoyed by a successful liberation of my nook tablet to jb thanks to xda and others, i put 4.2.2 on a disused nook color. working with both i've noticed the color seems to get confused a lot easier, probably by my impatient extra touches when it's hard to tell if it is working. primary symptom seems to be touchscreen corruption. updated roms haven't helped so far. Queston: is this most likely a function of the hardware and something to be lived with? it's still a fun and functional device but a dinosaur is a dinosaur. Opinions welcome. thanks.
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I had the same first impression with CM 10.1 Roms. I just installed PA 3.56 to my daughters nook color and I have noticed the performance increase. My daughter is six, she doesn't know any better.