Well i own a nook tablet. and i was wondering if i could install a nook color rom without causing any trouble with by device since the nook tablet devs are kind of .....slow. But i should not say anything cuz i probably don't know 1/1000 of the things they know.
but anyway, will it work.
hint:i want to install the regular cyanogen mod but it says nook color. not tablet
also if you could give me a link on how(not mandatory)
thankyou
For now at least, the most you can do is root your Nook Tablet. It is not the same as the Nook Color, and the bootloader is locked, which limits what can be booted, unlike on the NC. I bought my wife a NT and spent weeks working on this very same issue. You can do quite a bit with it, and it's very nice hardware, but it's not the hacker's toy the NC is. Your biggest issue will likely be the inability to use APPS2SD to free up space, thought you can load all the content you want on it.
EDIT: Where you really want to be asking questions are in the Nook Tablet forums. This is a good starting place.
No... why would that ever work?
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk
@424aca 'fraid it isn't that simple. The hardware profile is similar on the outside, but not on the inside of the tablet.
And the devs are slow because a lot of the buzz about the NT is gone now, seeing as the NT is nowhere near as hackable as the NC is.
Basically it's locked down to prevent any serious hacking, and any workarounds possible have not been discovered due to the immense difficulty of doing so.
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I will revisit this soon with a full comparison... but in the end I kept the s7 slim
in the end..the a500 is going back....the nook color is going back...and of all three that I tried over the weekend...I am actually keeping the s7 slim. The screen though not as bright had much deeper colors and was much crisper. The UI is fantastic and I didn't get all of the choppiness and lag that was present on web pages and videos on the a500.
the really cool thing about the a500 is that usb port...I could see many people using that for photography etc...but I do caution you...compared to other screen side by side the a500 just didn't display depth and color well at all.
I also had some issues with wacky things like That wifi issue some are having is really odd...mine may have been doing it as well ..all I know is the screen kept waking...over an hour period just sitting there it would occasionally wake ..then sleep..then wake...about every 10 minutes or so it would wake to the lockscreen for 5 minutes.
The external sd card cannot be read via a computer, you have to remove it and add etc via a reader
Stupid Short power cord, and the lack of USB charging of the unit
Ridiculously bad about finger prints and smudges (I know I know..a screen protector would help here..but this was just out of the box comparison of the three)
I am sure some of the issue with the a500 will be solved over time if the Devs can get a working recovery on it.
All three were ridiculously easy to root...but there really is no good recovery option for the a500 or s7 slim yet. I am sure this will be solved over time.
The rooted nook had a real "neato" factor..but hardly practical for my use. After an hour or two navigating through the menus and hitting softkeys and downloading some apps I knew it would be going back.
Well...I am torn now...I figured out how to fully root 1.2 on the Nook and I have to say...this thing rocks!!!!!
Wish I had read this first
Rooting the NC 1.2 is basically worthless. I spent most of a day getting a CM7 mod running on it, and while this is kind of cool, its underpowered compared to a huawei out of the box. The only benefit that I found when rooting / flashing the NC, is that its really easy to restore to stock. I have another 10 days or so to return it, but I've basically come to the decision that the S7 seems well worth an extra $50. You mention the lack of a good recovery option... does this mean the S7 slim is easy to brick?
I'm new to rooting android devices... and I don't really want a $300 paperweight.
Well...I jacked with mine for 2 weeks and didn't brick it...I was always able to get into the system settings menu and restore it.
It is possible though...with lack of a recovery there is no way to run custom roms etc ...
the nook was cool but I couldn't get everything working. I almost changed my mind and kept the nook... but in the end I actually took all 3 back. I found that I was doing far tooo much work to make any one of the three operate the way I wanted.
The s7 and the iconia have no recovery option...and there doesn't seem to be much development
I will give it a few months and see what else is out there and what progress has been made in development
Actually I have the nook and will return the slim tommorow to best buy.
Nook has the best display from every viewing angle and tons of developers (I run with cyanogenmod 7.0.3) fully stable no problem whatsoever. And with the new nook apps I can read magazine now.
the Slim 7 has problem from the start
1. google account (like market) cant connect to the server with wifi and the work around you need to factory reset.
2. You cant install any 3rd party launcher without soft bricking the device after reboot.
3. the speaker keep making chirp sound whenever you touch the screen or home,setting and back button.
4. the stock launcher eat so much memory, only set in landscape mode and so buggy.
Unless someone start developing a custom rom the s7 not ready for primetime.
i have to admit it has killer hardware specs.
Well, I used to have a Nook Simple touch until it was stepped on, so I'm getting a Color. Before I get it though, I'm just have a few questions.
1. For rooting this thing, how complicated is it? It's not so much it being too complex, it's more of do you have to re-partition it or downgrade to root and things like that.
2. How long does the battery last on this when you're constantly using this? I plan on mostly reading, taking notes in class, and just experimenting with it.
3. How compatible is this with Android apps with the rooted stock firmware? I've used a Nook Touch, and half the stuff didn't even launch. I'm assuming that's not the case on this.
4. How well does Cyanogen mod run from a card? Is it better to install it to the flash?
5. Is it better to root it or just use a custom rom?
Googie2149 said:
Well, I used to have a Nook Simple touch until it was stepped on, so I'm getting a Color. Before I get it though, I'm just have a few questions.
1. For rooting this thing, how complicated is it? It's not so much it being too complex, it's more of do you have to re-partition it or downgrade to root and things like that.
2. How long does the battery last on this when you're constantly using this? I plan on mostly reading, taking notes in class, and just experimenting with it.
3. How compatible is this with Android apps with the rooted stock firmware? I've used a Nook Touch, and half the stuff didn't even launch. I'm assuming that's not the case on this.
4. How well does Cyanogen mod run from a card? Is it better to install it to the flash?
5. Is it better to root it or just use a custom rom?
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There are some people that like the rooted stock, especially since it has been upgraded by B&N. I did not mind rooted stock and it could run almost anything. It was not difficult to root. But I was constantly worried that it would get updated over the air and wipe out my root. Then I tried CM7 and I was blown away. It was fantastic.
Running CM7 on SD works great. And it runs almost as fast. I can't tell any difference myself.
I personally recommend not doing anything with stock at first. Put CM7 on SD and see how you like it. Some people like leaving stock on the main memory because the Nook reader on stock is better than on CM7. It can read kids books, textbooks, etc. (edit: And with the CM7 boot menu it is easy to boot back and forth without taking out the card.) If you end up liking CM7 and not using stock you can always move your CM7 permanently to main memory.
Battery life is not great compared to the original kindle or original nooks. The color touch screen really eats the battery. I am on mine constantly and pretty much have to charge every night. But it does sleep good if you are not using it.
I don't think you will regret getting the Color.
The guide for installing to SD is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12240928
There is a brand new release of CM7 (7.2-RC1). You can get it here:
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?device=encore
Sent from my Nook Color running ICS and Tapatalk
read my post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442509
should have all the info you need to make your decision, if you follow cobyhoffs instructions it's pretty simple to root.
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...And with the CM7 boot menu it is easy to boot back and forth without taking out the card...
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Awesome! That's actually just what I was needing. I wasn't really looking forward to having to take the card out every time I wanted to rebooting.
Is there USB Host for the NC?
Edit: And another question: is it possible to configure network settings like DNS on this? I'm guessing stock won't but Cyanogenmod will.
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Awesome! That's actually just what I was needing. I wasn't really looking forward to having to take the card out every time I wanted to rebooting.
Is there USB Host for the NC?
Edit: And another question: is it possible to configure network settings like DNS on this? I'm guessing stock won't but Cyanogenmod will.
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There is usb host built into CM. Not stock. I don't know the answer about dns. It think you can manually edit the connection settings like static ip, etc.
One last question, what size SD card should I get for Cyanogenmod?
Googie2149 said:
One last question, what size SD card should I get for Cyanogenmod?
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Get any size you want, but it runs best from SanDisk class 4
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You should take a look at the Racks uSD dual boot post too. I have been using that dual boot image with subsequent updates and it has been great and easy.
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Awesome! That's actually just what I was needing. I wasn't really looking forward to having to take the card out every time I wanted to rebooting.
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You don't have to. The bootloader (cyanoboot) has a menu. You can choose which you want to boot into, and you can set the default action to boot "through" sdcard to emmc unless told otherwise (if you want to change the normal boot behavior, which is to SD if it's bootable)
Hi,
(I already have experience with rooting and installing custom roms on my HTC desire.)
A colleague of mine will travel to the US in a few days, and we where thinking of having him buy and bring back two Kindle Fires from there.
I have a few questions about the feasibility of this, and would be very grateful for some info, to avoid spending .
The infos in this forum are very extensive, and it is very difficult to keep the overview (especially since things change so rapidly).
1. How well are the custom roms working at the moment? Are they ready to be used in actual work environments, or are they still too experimental for this?
2. I want a very minimalist rom, the vanilla Google experience (my favourite on the HTC was Oxygen ROM). Any recommendations? ICS would be great, but Gingerbread would be okay, too. Most important is stability.
3. When I will try rooting and flashing the devices that will take place in Europe. Could this cause problems? E.g., the Amazon Marketplace is inaccessible from here (blocks non-US IPs). I assume that wont matter, just wanted to make sure.
Thanks for your help in advance!
rhhd
1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533001
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1556910
2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475054
3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1519456
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547252
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393862
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288862
maybe this one is also interesting for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382360
CM7 is nice. Completely stable. You'd probably like Barebones CM7. I was using Standing on the Shoulders of Giants CM7 ROM and loved it.
But...I really wanted ICS, so I flashed CM9. It's beautiful, and very stable, however due to no hardware acceleration (yet) you won't have flash and some games seem to not work.
With all that said, stick to flashing a CM7 Rom and you'll be happy, IMO.
Thanks for the responses.
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due to no hardware acceleration (yet) you won't have flash and some games seem to not work.
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And this also means no hi-res video support, right?
Or do is just need to have the right app for that?
right - allthrough you can do hi res video with software like mx player does
but this will result in low framerates (stuttering depending on the source) and high battery usage
Thanks again!
One more question: I just noticed the Kindle Fire has only one physical button (power). The Nook Color has at least a few more (Power, Home, Vol+, Vol-).
Is that an annoyance in everyday life on the Kindle? On my HTC I am kind of glad about the Home, Back, Menu and Volume buttons...
(We haven't yet made a final decision between Kindle and Nook.)
there are softbuttons for all this functions and i learned to live with it
in the meantime it is a bit strange for me when i take the gtab from my wife with the hardbuttons
no problem at all ...
rhhd said:
Thanks again!
One more question: I just noticed the Kindle Fire has only one physical button (power). The Nook Color has at least a few more (Power, Home, Vol+, Vol-).
Is that an annoyance in everyday life on the Kindle? On my HTC I am kind of glad about the Home, Back, Menu and Volume buttons...
(We haven't yet made a final decision between Kindle and Nook.)
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Not gonna lie, the lack of physical volume buttons drives me crazy. Livable now that I have CM9, but if using CM7 the 'volume control' app/widget/whatever, is a good option.
The lack of physical buttons on the kindle fire is a lucky break for developers as ICS is built with soft buttons in mind for the major functions of the OS so the one button isn't really a big problem. If google decides to go back to relying on physical buttons in jelly bean then the kindles custom rom future will be up in the air. For now if I were you i'd stick with CM7 until the developers have a chance to perfect the new kernel they're working on that will allow for better graphics among many other improvements.
I bought and registered my Kindle while I was in the states and I haven't had any problems with it here in Europe. I used the stock ROM for a few months and was only able to access the US Amazon, though I'm American so I don't know how that will effect you.
As for the soft buttons, I didn't have any problems with it. I thought the KF's stock ROM organized it pretty well; it was really easy to access the volume and brightness controls. The only thing I didn't like was that the bottom task bar was really big and, although it shrinks when you have full screen on, I was still annoyed by it. CM7 doesn't have that problem, though as someone else mentioned, apps are necessary to comfortably access volume control.
To sumarize, I think it was worth getting. I'm happy with it.
I purchased a Nook Color from staples today, and after doing a good bit of reading around here and looking at the software and such, I definitely want to root it.
My question to all that have rooted it - is it smooth? I'm not interested in playing games on it, or watching movies or such - I'm using it as my eReader for all of my digital books for my college courses. But the software limits of this thing are pretty frustrating - mainly the inability to access the Play Market and my Kindle purchases.
I just don't want a considerable amount of lag when scrolling between screens, for example. I know it's not the strongest machine out there, but all of the honeycomb videos I've seen have been pretty laggy and slow when transitioning. Are the newer roms like this as well?
IceCatraz said:
I purchased a Nook Color from staples today, and after doing a good bit of reading around here and looking at the software and such, I definitely want to root it.
My question to all that have rooted it - is it smooth? I'm not interested in playing games on it, or watching movies or such - I'm using it as my eReader for all of my digital books for my college courses. But the software limits of this thing are pretty frustrating - mainly the inability to access the Play Market and my Kindle purchases.
I just don't want a considerable amount of lag when scrolling between screens, for example. I know it's not the strongest machine out there, but all of the honeycomb videos I've seen have been pretty laggy and slow when transitioning. Are the newer roms like this as well?
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Both rooted stock and CM7 are pretty snappy. CM9 begins to start getting laggy. Use the Manual Nooter 5.08.20 to root stock and you can install things from play store. Or try CM7 on SD to see if you like it.
Thanks! Would you suggest CM7 over rooted stock? I wouldn't mind using rooted stock at all - but I'd like to know which you like. I can still install Google Play with rooted stock, correct? I just don't want that nasty honeycomb looking interface - it's just really not for me.
IceCatraz said:
Thanks! Would you suggest CM7 over rooted stock? I wouldn't mind using rooted stock at all - but I'd like to know which you like. I can still install Google Play with rooted stock, correct? I just don't want that nasty honeycomb looking interface - it's just really not for me.
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Rooting stock makes sense if you care about B&N features:
Read to me (mostly children's book)
Enhanced content (e.g. Conde Nast magazines such as Wired, New Yorker, though some of these are becoming available via 3rd party sources.)
Newpaper or magazine subscriptions (auto-update feature is nice)
B&N Free in-store reading
Support from friends with stock Nooks or B&N (conditional upon being rooted)
The B&N reader experience and shell. The B&N Android Nook app is not the same thing as their firmware experience, at least not yet. Someday, they may update the B&N Nook Android app, but it is pretty poor right now. If you want to read B&N stuff, then 1.4.x is a big deal.
If you don't care about any of these things, sticking with B&N's firmware won't gain you anything, and has some annoying quirks. I originally started with CM7.1 on my NC, then went back to B&N and stuck with it for the better part of a year. It's very pretty and they do some nice things, but I recently went back to CM7.2 full time.
As suggested, build a bootable uSD card with CM or something else on it and compare. There's no risk that way. If you like CM better, I do recommend putting it on internal (eMMC) memory for maximum flexibility. If your NC is new, you might wait until it's out of warranty to do this.
The Play Store works fine rooted.
Thanks! I just rooted my Nook Color, and it works just fine. I think I'll be sticking with stock root. And you were right - the stock is pretty snappy. Thanks for the info, both of you.
As a not entirely clueless newb buoyed by a successful liberation of my nook tablet to jb thanks to xda and others, i put 4.2.2 on a disused nook color. working with both i've noticed the color seems to get confused a lot easier, probably by my impatient extra touches when it's hard to tell if it is working. primary symptom seems to be touchscreen corruption. updated roms haven't helped so far. Queston: is this most likely a function of the hardware and something to be lived with? it's still a fun and functional device but a dinosaur is a dinosaur. Opinions welcome. thanks.
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As a not entirely clueless newb buoyed by a successful liberation of my nook tablet to jb thanks to xda and others, i put 4.2.2 on a disused nook color. working with both i've noticed the color seems to get confused a lot easier, probably by my impatient extra touches when it's hard to tell if it is working. primary symptom seems to be touchscreen corruption. updated roms haven't helped so far. Queston: is this most likely a function of the hardware and something to be lived with? it's still a fun and functional device but a dinosaur is a dinosaur. Opinions welcome. thanks.
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I had the same first impression with CM 10.1 Roms. I just installed PA 3.56 to my daughters nook color and I have noticed the performance increase. My daughter is six, she doesn't know any better.