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custom roms and upgrading to 2.1

So whenever Sprint pushes its 2.1 update, will those of us with rooted heroes and custom roms have to unroot in order to receive the update? Or will we have to wait for the custom roms to support 2.1?
Just wondering, because I really want and like 2.1 but I don't want to wipe my data.

More than likely the debate here will have a 2.1 build that's fully functional long before Sprint pushes one but even if they don't after it. Gets pushed out the debate here will have one that supports root. If you ruu and take the ota update it may correct the security exploit that was used to root so you would have to wait until someone found a way to root it again.
Be pacient we have great devs on here it will only be a matter of time.
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basically, wait until we have a ROM here to upgrade, don't get OTA if you want to keep root access. You might not be able to get it back

Source code released yesterday, so won't be much longer.

bye the time sprint pushes an update, there will be 3 other android phones to chose from.
edit: new android phones at sprint i mean

Yeah, Sprint sucks with updates being released in a timely manner. With my bberry, I was always using other carriers to update.

So I guess the consensus is to wait for our devs to get a full 2.1 rom working rather than unrooting and upgrading ota.
When the new dev roms come out, I was also wondering if I could save all my data, or how i could save all my data if a wipe was required.

If your phone is rooted, I would recommend an app from the market called "Backup for Root Users".

gu1dry said:
If your phone is rooted, I would recommend an app from the market called "Backup for Root Users".
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Thanks. I'll try that. Do you have any experience using it with one of the dev roms that need wipes? I am considering switching from modaco 2.0 to the aosp 2.1 but my concern was getting all my data back.

Ya it works. After you restore everything, you need to hard restart the phone (SEND+MENU+END) or it will be real slow until you do hard reset it.

sierpinski13 said:
So I guess the consensus is to wait for our devs to get a full 2.1 rom working rather than unrooting and upgrading ota.
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There will be a fully functional 2.1 rom here waaaaaaaaaaay before Sprint releases a 2.1 ota

gu1dry said:
If your phone is rooted, I would recommend an app from the market called "Backup for Root Users".
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Maybe there's a special way to do it, or maybe you don't backup everything, but Backup for Root Users totally effed up my restore when I moved from Fresh 1.1 to Modaco 2.0.
Actually, I tried Backup for Root Users, Astro File Manager, Titanium Backup, all of them sucked. (even after a fresh wipe of course)
I finally went back to my Fresh nandroid backup because I was getting so many FC's.
Maybe it was because it copied the APK's + "System Data" that did it, but it certainly didn't work, not smoothly anyway. :/

I've never had issues with Backup for Root Users. It takes time to restore everything & it is highly recommended that you hard reset your phone it it is finished restoring.

kmartburrito said:
Maybe there's a special way to do it, or maybe you don't backup everything, but Backup for Root Users totally effed up my restore when I moved from Fresh 1.1 to Modaco 2.0.
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I've moved from Fresh to MoDaCo without wiping and it has worked just fine.
I have a backup made from Fresh, and I am planning on flashing AOSP 2.1 soon. I'll try the restore tool and tell you how it works. If it doesn't...That's what nandroid backups are for.

I have a question related to this topic. I have a rooted Hero with TTG 1.6 ROM running. Seems like right now, if I wanted to switch to a different ROM like Fresh, all I ever needed to do is copy the zip file to the SD root, reboot while holding the Home button down, and select "Install from .zip" or however it's phrased. When a new 2.1 ROM comes out, would it be that simple, or would there be more steps involved since the ROM isn't based on the current 1.5?

sierpinski13 said:
I've moved from Fresh to MoDaCo without wiping and it has worked just fine.
I have a backup made from Fresh, and I am planning on flashing AOSP 2.1 soon. I'll try the restore tool and tell you how it works. If it doesn't...That's what nandroid backups are for.
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I tried it and im getting FCs all over the place. Back to Fresh and MoDaCo 2.0 for now.

daveydave said:
I have a question related to this topic. I have a rooted Hero with TTG 1.6 ROM running. Seems like right now, if I wanted to switch to a different ROM like Fresh, all I ever needed to do is copy the zip file to the SD root, reboot while holding the Home button down, and select "Install from .zip" or however it's phrased. When a new 2.1 ROM comes out, would it be that simple, or would there be more steps involved since the ROM isn't based on the current 1.5?
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A factory wipe would probably be required (Not the RUU though)

kmartburrito said:
Maybe there's a special way to do it, or maybe you don't backup everything, but Backup for Root Users totally effed up my restore when I moved from Fresh 1.1 to Modaco 2.0.
Actually, I tried Backup for Root Users, Astro File Manager, Titanium Backup, all of them sucked. (even after a fresh wipe of course)
I finally went back to my Fresh nandroid backup because I was getting so many FC's.
Maybe it was because it copied the APK's + "System Data" that did it, but it certainly didn't work, not smoothly anyway. :/
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I never had any luck with backup for root users, it worked on apps but not on anything else. Finally, I bought reware mybackup. It works awesome, restores everything.

sierpinski13 said:
I tried it and im getting FCs all over the place. Back to Fresh and MoDaCo 2.0 for now.
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Could be the whole number of apps issue.​

adelaney said:
Could be the whole number of apps issue.​
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How many apps does it support? Or is it even that? How much is the reware mybackup software? Do you have a link for it? And will it only work on rooted phones or can the backups be transferred to unrooted ones as well?

Upgrade path?

I initially installed 2.2 leaked version. Now how do I officially move to ota version? There's just too much info out there and its confusing. I don't want to brick my phone so I an just scared. Also, I didn't see a how to for this when I searched.
Thanks in advanced.
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I'm new to android but as I understand you have to flash back to 2.1 and and be sure you haven't installed themes or deleted factory apps then you can install the OTA froyo
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if you are running the 2.3.15 leak than you have the same system as the ota. the only thing you dont have is the kernel (which is said to not have any significant changes), a changed bootloader with no improvments other than to try and lock the phone down more, and an updated baseband which is a minimal update and you dont need if you don't have any signal issues. That being said heres your answer
You need to use rsd lite and the 2.1 .sbf file to restore your phone to stock 2.1 then you can update. If you made a backup of you 2.1 system you can restore it AFTER using the 2.1 .sbf file. or you can re enter your stuff again.
after you have 2.1 with stock (i beleive rooted is fine but not sure) you can then got to settings, about phone, check for updates and download the update and install it.
At this time i don't think there is an easier way or direct way to go from leak to ota. I would suggest you use titanium backup or some other backup to backup all your apps and data so you can restore them once your on OTA 2.2 and rooted. remember not to restore any system files or apps (example: text messages or accounts) it will cause constant sync icon in notification and only way to remove is to wipe and start over.

Im on the original leaked 2.3.9. Can I just flash the 2.3.15 leaked update.zip and be done with it? Or will I still have to flash 2.1 and update?
I havent removed any bloatware or any thing else. Just 2.3.9 stock rooted.
Thanks guys for the directions.

megaman81 said:
Im on the original leaked 2.3.9. Can I just flash the 2.3.15 leaked update.zip and be done with it? Or will I still have to flash 2.1 and update?
I havent removed any bloatware or any thing else. Just 2.3.9 stock rooted.
Thanks guys for the directions.
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install the 2.3.15 leak and your good to go.

Next OTA update question?

Question on wipe and/or restore if/when the next update comes out. I have apex 1.3.1 running with a nandroid back up. But my backup is not clean, on other words it does not go all the way back to before I flashed.
So, 1) will my phone update automatically when an ota is available? 2) do I have to wipe it clean and do a factory restore if I do in fact want to flash to the new OTA? 3) after doing an update I guess I have to literally start from scratch on root and flash because any restore would be based on the old version? 4) finally can I at least use my titanium backup regardless of rom?
Thanks in advance.
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TheFuzz said:
Question on wipe and/or restore if/when the next update comes out. I have apex 1.3.1 running with a nandroid back up. But my backup is not clean, on other words it does not go all the way back to before I flashed.
So, 1) will my phone update automatically when an ota is available? 2) do I have to wipe it clean and do a factory restore if I do in fact want to flash to the new OTA? 3) after doing an update I guess I have to literally start from scratch on root and flash because any restore would be based on the old version? 4) finally can I at least use my titanium backup regardless of rom?
Thanks in advance.
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If the nandroid you have is not a clean backup, then yes, you will need to sbf and factory reset to get back to the option if an OTA comes out.
You can use titanium regardless tho =)

hopefully motorola is done messing around with froyo and the next OTA will be 2.3

Joe92T said:
hopefully motorola is done messing around with froyo and the next OTA will be 2.3
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Hard telling. My thought is that there will probably be another 2.2 release for the X before a 2.3 release pops out...
Not to be a pessimist... i would love to see 2.3 as soon as possible. I have seen someone saying that Verizon had been toying with a Gingerbread build on the X.

Flashing PROM's via CWM and existing data?

Excuse my noobishness please,
The Atrix is my first android phone. (Finally got bored of the iPhone).
I was looking at installing GreyBlur. Currently I'm on a rooted 1.8.3 (used afterroot.bat/gladroot).
My question is:
If installing GreyBlur using CWM, does it affect any of my existing data on the phone's internal storage, SD card, etc?
Would I be reinstalling apps and losing messages, etc, or does it retain everything?
Thank you!

No worries!
It should retain all of your data, music, etc. It's a pretty simple process.
My only advice: if you're switching to a different P-ROM (like from GingerBlur to GladAtrix), reflash your phone with RSD. I went from GingerBlur to GladAtrix and had tons of problems.

drumercalzone09 said:
No worries!
It should retain all of your data, music, etc. It's a pretty simple process.
My only advice: if you're switching to a different P-ROM (like from GingerBlur to GladAtrix), reflash your phone with RSD. I went from GingerBlur to GladAtrix and had tons of problems.
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Awesome!
I'm probably going to stick with one PROM for now. If I was to reflash using RSD to switch over to a different rom, what's the deal with existing data?
Also, I know these roms are deodexed, and that causes an issue with receiving OTA updates. Assuming Motorola releases a new update sometime soon, how would I go about flashing to the updated firmware while retaining my information, or is it not possible?
I believe I had to use SBF recovery or something?
Thanks!

silentecho13 said:
Awesome!
I'm probably going to stick with one PROM for now. If I was to reflash using RSD to switch over to a different rom, what's the deal with existing data?
Also, I know these roms are deodexed, and that causes an issue with receiving OTA updates. Assuming Motorola releases a new update sometime soon, how would I go about flashing to the updated firmware while retaining my information, or is it not possible?
I believe I had to use SBF recovery or something?
Thanks!
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When you flash an sbf, your data and info will be reset so make sure to do a complete backup before flashing an sbf file.
As far as OTA updates go, I'm not well versed but I believe it is recommended to do a fresh sbf -> update OTA -> then install whatever P-ROM.
I THINK, devs are pretty quick about releasing the latest update though so you might just be able to flash from old P-ROM to update P-ROM ? again, just my assumptions.

k00ey said:
When you flash an sbf, your data and info will be reset so make sure to do a complete backup before flashing an sbf file.
As far as OTA updates go, I'm not well versed but I believe it is recommended to do a fresh sbf -> update OTA -> then install whatever P-ROM.
I THINK, devs are pretty quick about releasing the latest update though so you might just be able to flash from old P-ROM to update P-ROM ? again, just my assumptions.
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Option 2 sounds pretty damn convenient lol.

backup
k00ey said:
When you flash an sbf, your data and info will be reset so make sure to do a complete backup before flashing an sbf file.
As far as OTA updates go, I'm not well versed but I believe it is recommended to do a fresh sbf -> update OTA -> then install whatever P-ROM.
I THINK, devs are pretty quick about releasing the latest update though so you might just be able to flash from old P-ROM to update P-ROM ? again, just my assumptions.
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I was just wondering what people always mean by 'complete backup'.
What I do is I backup my sd / ext-sd and also all the user apps/data with TitaniumBackup.
But is there a way to create a full image of the system to be able to recover it with CWM?
If yes, how?
Thanks

redThd said:
I was just wondering what people always mean by 'complete backup'.
What I do is I backup my sd / ext-sd and also all the user apps/data with TitaniumBackup.
But is there a way to create a full image of the system to be able to recover it with CWM?
If yes, how?
Thanks
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I'd like to know this as well before I even attempt to install any custom ROM.

[REQ] - Nandroid backup of Android 2.3.6 on NS 3G

Hi all,
It seems I must have deleted the gingerbread nandroid backup I did before moving to ICS a while ago. There is now a need for me to move to GB for a few hours whilst I test something out.
Is anyone able to either:
- Point me in the direction of instructions on how to revert back to GB
or
- upload a STOCK GB nandroid that I can restore via cwm
thanks!

Have you looked in the development section? I'm sure there's stock GB ROMs available to just download and flash. I don't think anyone's gonna give you an actual nandroid as you'd then be logged into their account.

jesusice said:
Have you looked in the development section? I'm sure there's stock GB ROMs available to just download and flash. I don't think anyone's gonna give you an actual nandroid as you'd then be logged into their account.
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Is it safe to just flash a lower version ROM.. I was under the impression that it wasnt hence the request..

Just backup whatever you're on right now.
And do a FULL WIPE in CWM.
Then flash a GB ROM.
You can run (mostly) any ROM regardless of what your kernel, radio baseband.
You can't downgrade only when you do official updates like OTA.

adaimespechip said:
Is it safe to just flash a lower version ROM.. I was under the impression that it wasnt hence the request..
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Yes. Make a backup first and make sure you format /system and /boot along with the factory reset. And of course if you use Titanium don't restore any system data.

jesusice said:
Yes. Make a backup first and make sure you format /system and /boot along with the factory reset. And of course if you use Titanium don't restore any system data.
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jk0l said:
Just backup whatever you're on right now.
And do a FULL WIPE in CWM.
Then flash a GB ROM.
You can run (mostly) any ROM regardless of what your kernel, radio baseband.
You can't downgrade only when you do official updates like OTA.
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Cheers guys, thanks for this!